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Jeff Liebermann
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:54:52 +0200, Frank Buss <fb@frank-buss.de>
wrote:

[quote]Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Incidentally, if you wanna build tiny Windoze applications in
Assembler, see:
http://www.grc.com/smgassembly.htm

Nice, but 13,824 bytes is a really big executable. I>ve created executables
as small as 181 bytes in assembler:

http://www.frank-buss.de/automaton/arabeske.html

Looks like it doesn>t work in Windows Vista anymore, I>ll get an Englisch
error message in my German Windows installation that the 16 bit MS-DOS
subsystem doesn>t support fullscreen mode. But on my VMWare Windows 98
installation it still works.

Would be fun to build a morse key with an USB connector :-)

Sigh. Perhaps Mor Sex will help.

Looks like someone has already built such a device, maybe with CapSense:

http://www.cinahazegh.com/2006/05/30/the-amazing-morse-code-keyboard/

But it is a bit lame, it uses two different positions to enter tap and
dashes and it has a backspace position. I wonder why the SMS addicted
didn>t use already morse code :-)
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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Jeff Liebermann
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:54:52 +0200, Frank Buss <fb@frank-buss.de>
wrote:

[quote]Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Incidentally, if you wanna build tiny Windoze applications in
Assembler, see:
http://www.grc.com/smgassembly.htm

Nice, but 13,824 bytes is a really big executable. I>ve created executables
as small as 181 bytes in assembler:

http://www.frank-buss.de/automaton/arabeske.html
[/quote]
I was comparing it to other Windoze applications. I think the winner
of the bloat award goes to various mouse drivers, that can be up to 50
MegaBloats big.

[quote]Looks like it doesn>t work in Windows Vista anymore, I>ll get an Englisch
error message in my German Windows installation that the 16 bit MS-DOS
subsystem doesn>t support fullscreen mode. But on my VMWare Windows 98
installation it still works.
[/quote]
Yeah, that>s the problem with Vista. Lots of applications don>t run.
I question whether the cosmetic changes were worth destroying the
backwards compatibility. I guess Microsoft is copying both Apples
user interface and mistakes. The mistake was when Apple went through
various versions of MacOS, breaking apps each time. Apple stopped
doing that with OS/X, but I guess Microsoft hasn>t noticed.

[quote]Would be fun to build a morse key with an USB connector :-)

Sigh. Perhaps Mor Sex will help.

Looks like someone has already built such a device, maybe with CapSense:

http://www.cinahazegh.com/2006/05/30/the-amazing-morse-code-keyboard/
[/quote]
That posting is over 2 years old. I couldn>t find anything to
indicate that any progress has been made since then. Nice idea, but I
don>t think I could use it. There have been literally a huge number
of alternative input devices patented. Most will function, but only
with substantial operator training. Despite the obvious deficiencies
of the QWERTY keyboard, it>s difficult to produce something
sufficiently improved to justify the effort learning how to use it.

[quote]But it is a bit lame, it uses two different positions to enter tap and
dashes and it has a backspace position. I wonder why the SMS addicted
didn>t use already morse code :-)
[/quote]
I think I was about 12 years old when I first learned Morse code. We
used it in class to send secret messages that the teachers couldn>t
understand. Very handy.

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Robert Baer
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

Martin Riddle wrote:
[quote]"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message
news:658n84p7knl3s21qn5bbh90img0o1sn64i@4ax.com...
|
| You know you>re an engineer when...
|
| Just saw a license plate: NODECAF
|
| And I>m wondering, what the hell... Node Caf ???
|
| Finally realized it was No Decaf ;-)
|
Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode with the Woman>s name that rimes with a female body part ;)

Cheers


Never saw that; what part?[/quote]
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Frank Buss
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

[quote]On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:54:52 +0200, Frank Buss <fb@frank-buss.de
wrote:
But it is a bit lame, it uses two different positions to enter tap and
dashes and it has a backspace position. I wonder why the SMS addicted
didn>t use already morse code :-)

I think I was about 12 years old when I first learned Morse code. We
used it in class to send secret messages that the teachers couldn>t
understand. Very handy.
[/quote]
Looks like it is faster than SMS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhsSgcsTMd4

But maybe not. Looks like the SMS guy is not as fast as e.g. this kid:

http://www.worldrecordsacademy.org/society/fastest_texter_world_record_set_by_Elliot_Nicholls_70924.htm

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Martin Riddle
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message news:6bidnTwrVetFtxHVnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@posted.localnet...
| Martin Riddle wrote:
| > "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message
| > news:658n84p7knl3s21qn5bbh90img0o1sn64i@4ax.com...
| > |
| > | You know you>re an engineer when...
| > |
| > | Just saw a license plate: NODECAF
| > |
| > | And I>m wondering, what the hell... Node Caf ???
| > |
| > | Finally realized it was No Decaf ;-)
| > |
| > Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode with the Woman>s name that rimes with a female body part ;)
| >
| > Cheers
| >
| >
| Never saw that; what part?

The Episode was "The junior Mint"

http://www.tv.com/seinfeld/the-junior-mint/episode/2300/summary.html

Cheers
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Jim Thompson
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:11:46 -0400, T <nospam.kd1s@cox.nospam.net>
wrote:

[quote]In article <hian84d8150nckdgm8ij99bksq0qqkblbe@4ax.com>,
UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org says...
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:22:51 GMT, "Martin Riddle"
martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:


"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message
news:658n84p7knl3s21qn5bbh90img0o1sn64i@4ax.com...
|
| You know you>re an engineer when...
|
| Just saw a license plate: NODECAF
|
| And I>m wondering, what the hell... Node Caf ???
|
| Finally realized it was No Decaf ;-)
|
Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode with the Woman>s name that rimes with a female body part ;)

Cheers


Pussy Galore...

Oh wait... that is not even a rhyme!


Laugh all you want. Back in the early 80>s friends of mine had the
registrations OI-812 and OU-812. This went on until about 1993 or so
when the DMV finally figured out what they meant and they yanked the
plates.
[/quote]
In my youth Liberace was purported to have the plate, "RU12" ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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Liberals are so cute.  Stupid as bricks, but cute.
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Jim Thompson
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:34:03 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

[quote]On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:11:58 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:


You know you>re an engineer when...

Just saw a license plate: NODECAF

And I>m wondering, what the hell... Node Caf ???

Finally realized it was No Decaf ;-)

---
I was thinking today it would be interesting if one of the
presidential candidates was named Joseph Ronix, and he had posters
made which read: "Elect Ronix." ;)

JF
[/quote]
Would Ronix beat Obama ?:-)

...Jim Thompson
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All that mental constipation would make me cranky, too.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 02:00:20 -0700, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

[quote]Martin Riddle wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message
news:658n84p7knl3s21qn5bbh90img0o1sn64i@4ax.com...
|
| You know you>re an engineer when...
|
| Just saw a license plate: NODECAF
|
| And I>m wondering, what the hell... Node Caf ???
|
| Finally realized it was No Decaf ;-)
|
Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode with the Woman>s name that rimes with a female body part ;)

Cheers


Never saw that; what part?
[/quote]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_VkNa7alqI


JF
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T
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:00 am    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

In article <birn841dpc9boukkpqglljk3mlviss7lnf@4ax.com>,
jeffl@cruzio.com says...
[quote]On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:43:19 +0200, Frank Buss <fb@frank-buss.de
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

One of the ham radio vendors registred the domain
http://www.MorseX.com>.
He sells Morse code related equipment under the name of Morse Express
and Milestone Technologies.

The software screenshots ( http://www.morsex.com/cm5.htm ) look like a good
old Turbo Vision Borland Pascal program. I wonder how many they sell.

Well, yes. It is an MSDOS program. No Windoze required. Hams are
*CHEAP* and tend to use ancient junk for computers. Most of my ham
junk is on an HP Omnibook 600 with a 75MHz 486 processor running MSDOS
something. Windoze is for masochists.

Incidentally, if you wanna build tiny Windoze applications in
Assembler, see:
http://www.grc.com/smgassembly.htm


Would be fun to build a morse key with an USB connector :-)

Sigh. Perhaps Mor Sex will help.




[/quote]
Some of we hams put Linux on them too. Even the GUI run levels require
fewer resources than Windows.
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krw
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:04 am    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

In article <9BSik.135$Ht4.15@trnddc01>, martin_rid@verizon.net
says...
[quote]
"UltimatePatriot" <UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> wrote in message news:hian84d8150nckdgm8ij99bksq0qqkblbe@4ax.com...
| On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:22:51 GMT, "Martin Riddle"
| <martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:
|
|
| >"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message
| >news:658n84p7knl3s21qn5bbh90img0o1sn64i@4ax.com...
| >|
| >| You know you>re an engineer when...
| >|
| >| Just saw a license plate: NODECAF
| >|
| >| And I>m wondering, what the hell... Node Caf ???
| >|
| >| Finally realized it was No Decaf ;-)
| >|
| >Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode with the Woman>s name that rimes with a female body part ;)
|
| >Cheers
|
|
| Pussy Galore...
|
| Oh wait... that is not even a rhyme!

No begins with "D"
[/quote]
Ditz?

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Archimedes' Lever
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:11:59 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

[quote]On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:02:27 -0500, Kris Krieger <me@dowmuff.in
wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
news:4nbq849ghkooual8kkq196nk1thg2n6d0a@4ax.com:

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:28:13 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

Sad story: I have 'DV DT' on a Porsche. Back when I worked at Boeing,
not many of the engineers there figured it out.

Funny part: One lady engineer (a contractor), took one look at the plate
and told me I should have gotten the second derivative of velocity.


JERK

John


"DV DT" - wouldn>t that mean "change in velocity over change in time"? WHo
is the supposed jerk, and why? Maybe I just have a different definition of
"jerk"... =:-p

Jerk is dA/dT. Neck-snapping stuff.

John
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What would the tag on the car in "Back To The Future" be?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

John Larkin wrote:
[quote]On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:02:27 -0500, Kris Krieger <me@dowmuff.in
wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
news:4nbq849ghkooual8kkq196nk1thg2n6d0a@4ax.com:

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:28:13 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

Sad story: I have 'DV DT' on a Porsche. Back when I worked at Boeing,
not many of the engineers there figured it out.

Funny part: One lady engineer (a contractor), took one look at the plate
and told me I should have gotten the second derivative of velocity.

JERK

John

"DV DT" - wouldn>t that mean "change in velocity over change in time"? WHo
is the supposed jerk, and why? Maybe I just have a different definition of
"jerk"... =:-p

Jerk is dA/dT. Neck-snapping stuff.
[/quote]
Rate of change of acceleration

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:02:27 -0500, Kris Krieger <me@dowmuff.in>
wrote:

[quote]John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
news:4nbq849ghkooual8kkq196nk1thg2n6d0a@4ax.com:

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:28:13 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

Sad story: I have 'DV DT' on a Porsche. Back when I worked at Boeing,
not many of the engineers there figured it out.

Funny part: One lady engineer (a contractor), took one look at the plate
and told me I should have gotten the second derivative of velocity.


JERK

John


"DV DT" - wouldn>t that mean "change in velocity over change in time"? WHo
is the supposed jerk, and why? Maybe I just have a different definition of
"jerk"... =:-p
[/quote]
Jerk is dA/dT. Neck-snapping stuff.

John
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
news:4nbq849ghkooual8kkq196nk1thg2n6d0a@4ax.com:

[quote]On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:28:13 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

Sad story: I have 'DV DT' on a Porsche. Back when I worked at Boeing,
not many of the engineers there figured it out.

Funny part: One lady engineer (a contractor), took one look at the plate
and told me I should have gotten the second derivative of velocity.


JERK

John

[/quote]
"DV DT" - wouldn>t that mean "change in velocity over change in time"? WHo
is the supposed jerk, and why? Maybe I just have a different definition of
"jerk"... =:-p
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: You know you>re an engineer when... Reply with quote

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:28:13 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

[quote]Sad story: I have 'DV DT' on a Porsche. Back when I worked at Boeing,
not many of the engineers there figured it out.

Funny part: One lady engineer (a contractor), took one look at the plate
and told me I should have gotten the second derivative of velocity.
[/quote]

JERK

John
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