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Daniel J. Lavigne
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 Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:51 am Post subject: You are being lied to . . |
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Energy secretary says power vulnerable to massive failure
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/busi...94723-8078r.htm
A weak transmission grid in the Northeast conspired with a
series of cascading events to cause the major
Northeast-Midwest blackout in August, Energy Secretary
Spencer Abraham said yesterday.
A joint U.S.-Canadian task force report expected Tuesday
will show that the interconnectivity of the nation>s power grid,
which is the reason for its success most of the time, leaves
it vulnerable to the kind of massive failure that cut power to
more than 50 million people from Michigan to New York on
Aug. 14, Mr. Abraham said in a wide-ranging interview with
reporters and editors at The Washington Times.
"The fact is that North America>s grid, eastern interconnect or
western interconnect, is very much an interdependent
system, which is 99.99 percent of the time critical to
maintaining the reliability of the system. If some power
plant goes out somewhere, the interconnectivity of the grid
allows grid operators to substitute from some other source,"
he said.
"But the fact you have that much of an interrelated system
also means when you have significant events, then the
isolation of those events is difficult because these things
happen in a matter of milliseconds."
Mr. Abraham signaled that the administration has scaled
back its hopes for aggressive energy development in the
United States even as Congress nears approval of an
energy bill sought by President Bush.
The bill announced by House-Senate conferees yesterday
contains measures aimed at ensuring the reliability of
electricity transmission, but excludes the centerpiece of Mr.
Bush>s energy plan — opening the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge for oil and gas exploration.
Given the political resistance to increasing production in
Alaska and elsewhere, Mr. Abraham said, the administration
is focusing more than ever on diversifying energy sources
from abroad to avoid too much reliance on unstable regions
such as the Middle East.
Canada, in a surprise development, has emerged as a
major new and friendly source of oil in the future, as it
recently has been proven to have a cache of 175 billion
barrels in tappable oil reserves locked up in its western sand
deposits — an amount that exceeds Iraq>s oil reserves and
is second only to Saudi Arabia>s reserves in size, he said.
The vast new reserves in Canada could be as important to
America>s energy security and independence in the future as
the administration>s much-discussed hydrogen fuel program,
which is aimed at accelerating the development of hydrogen
fuel cells to replace gasoline in cars, he said.
Development of the Canadian reserves requires advanced
technology and is expensive. It became feasible only in the
past few years as oil prices consistently topped a critical
$16-to-$26-a-barrel range in which the oil can be profitably
extracted from Canada>s unique sand deposits, according to
Energy Information Administration estimates.
"There are two possible routes toward independence. You
can shift a substantial amount of our trading relationship to
Canada," he said, or develop cars that run on fuel cells. The
hydrogen route "is the only solution that can successfully
change the landscape forever. We think it can be done a lot
quicker if we make it a matter of national resolve."
The administration also continues to cultivate sources as
diverse as Russia, West Africa and Central Asia to increase
the world>s oil supplies, he said, noting that the proliferation
of oil-exporting nations in the past decade has done much
to blunt the power of the Organization of the Petroleum
Exporting Countries.
On the subject of Iraq, Mr. Abraham said many in Congress
and even some OPEC ministers have misjudged how quickly
Iraq could bring its substantial oil resources back on line
after the devastation of war and a decade of not investing in
its oil-producing facilities.
Iraq>s production will come back slowly, he said, and the
United States will not stand in the way if Iraq chooses to
remain a participating member of the oil cartel.
On a recent visit to Russia, Mr. Abraham said, he detected
disenchantment with the Kyoto global-warming treaty,
though he does not know whether Moscow will ratify the
treaty.
The fate of the treaty currently rests in Russia>s hands.
Under a formula requiring ratification by industrialized
nations that produced a majority of carbon dioxide and
other greenhouse-gas emissions in 1990, only Russia or the
United States has the power to push the treaty over the 50
percent mark needed to put it into effect.
While Mr. Bush has vowed never to sign the Kyoto treaty out
of concern it could crimp the U.S. economy, Russian
ministers for the first time last month raised questions
about the validity of the science underlying the accord.
Russia had been expected to sign the treaty until then.
Mr. Abraham said Russia, like the United States and many
other nations, not only has concerns about the scientific
certainty underlying the global-warming theory, but also
about the treaty>s likely effect on economic growth.
Because the treaty would require Russia to radically curb
carbon emissions by cars, power plants and energy
producers, it has the potential to prevent strong growth and
energy development in a Russian economy that is largely
driven by oil and gas production.
Russia has seen rapid economic growth in recent years and
looks likely to hit a robust annual growth rate of 6 percent
this year, making it one of the world>s star economic
performers. Russian President Vladimir Putin recently
announced his goal is to double that growth rate in the next
decade.
"They have a concern about whether or not the Kyoto
approach is consistent with long-term economic growth,"
Mr. Abraham said. "People of all countries demand a
growing economy and higher standards of living."
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You are being lied to . .
The above fails to acknowledge, indeed, it absolute ignores, a
vast body of work by established scientist that the "Hydrogen
Economy" is an impossibility, as:
(a) We lack sufficient reserves of fossil fuels to produce the
necessary storage and delivery to consumers infrastructure, and
(b) We do yet have the means of producing the needed Hydrogen in amounts
sufficient
to replace even one tenth of our present day use of oil and gasoline, and
(c) We have a multitude of reasons to doubt the ability of current science to
produce a storage tank that is light enough and strong enough to withstand the
pressures needed to maintain the Hydrogen in its compressed state, and
(d) We have no material with which to build a tank that can handle the
pressures involved AND deal with the ability of Hydrogen atoms to pass through
the strongest of steels.
It is unfortunate that such as pResident Bush failed to understand the
opportunity to slow our waste and other misuse of fossil fuels by simply
acceptng the Kyoto Protocols as agreed to in December 1997.
Had he done so, we could well be on our way to developing agreements to
"share" the rest of the oil, as opposed to being involved in plans and
preparations that are predicated on a will and capacity to commit mass murder
. . .
With regard to "Sustainable Economic Growth":
Such is not possible . . . on any planet.
And we had best soon start to develop policies by which we
can effectively deal with the fact that most economies will
soon collapse. Thank you.
Now . . DO IT!! . .
Add your voice to reason>s call. Join the Tax Refusal.
ACT ON YOUR DUTY TO REFUSE TO SUPPORT A SOCIETY
that would be party to Mass Murder.
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Bobster .
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:51 am Post subject: Re: You are being lied to . . |
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I don>t believe we are being lied to.
You wrote:
The above fails to acknowledge, indeed, it absolute ignores, a vast body
of work by established scientist that the "Hydrogen Economy" is an
impossibility, as:
###################################### Don>t be
silly, there is nothing "impossible" about the hydrogen economy, only
difficulties, which research can ultimatly solve.
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(a) We lack sufficient reserves of fossil fuels to produce the
necessary storage and delivery to consumers infrastructure, and
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Oh, this is rich ! How abouit using renewables
instead of fossil fuels ?
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(b) We do yet have the means of producing the needed Hydrogen in
amounts sufficient
to replace even one tenth of our present day use of oil and gasoline,
and
###################################### Currently, we
don>t, but when enough people have their own renewable energy sources,
we will.
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(c) We have a multitude of reasons to doubt the ability of
current science to produce a storage tank that is light enough and
strong enough to withstand the pressures needed to maintain the Hydrogen
in its compressed state, and
(d) We have no material with which to build a tank that can
handle the pressures involved AND deal with the ability of Hydrogen
atoms to pass through the strongest of steels.
######################################
Try metal hydrides
######################################
It is unfortunate that such as pResident Bush failed to understand the
opportunity to slow our waste and other misuse of fossil fuels by simply
acceptng the Kyoto Protocols as agreed to in December 1997.
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Ah,yes,and your motive for your conclusions finally
becomes clear. |
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G. R. L. Cowan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:50 am Post subject: Re: You are being lied to . . |
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"Daniel J. Lavigne" wrote:
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Energy secretary says power vulnerable to massive failure
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Golly-wow. What do you suppose was his first clue?
http://www.tipmagazine.com/tip/INPHFA/vol-9/iss-5/p8.html
--- Graham Cowan
http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/Paper_for_11th_CHC.doc --
fireproof fuel, real-car range, no emissions |
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danny
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:57 am Post subject: Re: You are being lied to . . |
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G. R. L. Cowan wrote:
[quote]"Daniel J. Lavigne" wrote:
Energy secretary says power vulnerable to massive failure
Golly-wow. What do you suppose was his first clue?
And if it can do that all on its own,[/quote]
think of how badly it could fail with a
little help.
danny
[quote]
http://www.tipmagazine.com/tip/INPHFA/vol-9/iss-5/p8.html
--- Graham Cowan
http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/Paper_for_11th_CHC.doc --
fireproof fuel, real-car range, no emissions
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daestrom
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:45 am Post subject: Re: You are being lied to . . |
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"Daniel J. Lavigne" <taxfree@nospamtaxrefusal.com> wrote in message
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Energy secretary says power vulnerable to massive failure
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Not to pick a fight, but 'fair use' under the US copyright law does *not*
provide for posting numerous large paragraphs (amounting to over half the
article). 'Editorial review' allows only short excerpts, not nearly the
entire article. Your claiming otherwise does not absolve you of the obvious
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Roland Paterson-Jones
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"daestrom" <daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Daniel J. Lavigne" <taxfree@nospamtaxrefusal.com> wrote in message
news:3FB7C718.9DE1D245@nospamtaxrefusal.com...
Energy secretary says power vulnerable to massive failure
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snip
Not to pick a fight, but 'fair use' under the US copyright law does *not*
provide for posting numerous large paragraphs (amounting to over half the
article). 'Editorial review' allows only short excerpts, not nearly the
entire article. Your claiming otherwise does not absolve you of the
obvious
copyright infringement.
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Which is all stupid in my mind.
Once you say your say, that is your say, no more or no less. You>ve said it,
it>s out there, let them (mis)quote at will.
The notion of patent, or copyright ownership of your your words or ideas
runs contrary to human nature.
Roland
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No One
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: You are being lied to . . |
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[quote]Fair use policy applies
snip
Not to pick a fight, but 'fair use' under the US copyright law does
*not*
provide for posting numerous large paragraphs (amounting to over half
the
article). 'Editorial review' allows only short excerpts, not nearly the
entire article. Your claiming otherwise does not absolve you of the
obvious
copyright infringement.
Which is all stupid in my mind.
Once you say your say, that is your say, no more or no less. You>ve said
it,
it>s out there, let them (mis)quote at will.
The notion of patent, or copyright ownership of your your words or ideas
runs contrary to human nature.
[/quote]
Tell that to Tom Clancy, Steven King or a singer/song writer, such as Toby
Keith. |
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