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G=EMC^2 Glazier
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 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: What if (on Trade winds) |
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This what if comes out of Columbus. In the days of sailing(I love to
sail) trade winds were the way to go. Being made a meteorologist by
nightbat gave me a chance to study winds across the Earth surface.(some
are predictable) Interesting is the fact that near the equator winds
could come to a stop,and yet its the fastest moving area of the Earth
surface Go figure that out. Best we realize air has to rise up from the
equator and fall down at the poles Once a sailers know wind
patterns he can set his sails and go from A to B TreBert |
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Mark Earnest
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:32 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbertglazier@webtv.net> wrote in message
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[quote]This what if comes out of Columbus. In the days of sailing(I love to
sail) trade winds were the way to go. Being made a meteorologist by
nightbat gave me a chance to study winds across the Earth surface.(some
are predictable) Interesting is the fact that near the equator winds
could come to a stop,and yet its the fastest moving area of the Earth
surface Go figure that out.
[/quote]
There is no such thing as motion. Even at the equator.
That is, there is no such thing as motion until you compare the state of one
object to that of yet another.
Maybe the winds at the equator just haven>t gotten a running start, yet.
Best we realize air has to rise up from the
[quote]equator and fall down at the poles Once a sailers know wind
patterns he can set his sails and go from A to B TreBert
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G=EMC^2 Glazier
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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Mark Made a print out of your post???? There is 1030mph rotation
motion at the equator,and no motion at the exact center of the poles.
TreBert |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:07 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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One can not think of trade winds without thinking of Columbus. If he was
alive he would give much credit to the Portugal brothers that knew the
looping of this trade winds so well that before Columbus brough cod and
Maine lobsters back when fishing off Georgia Banks. These guys could
sail and fish TreBert |
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Mark Earnest
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:12 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbertglazier@webtv.net> wrote in message
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[quote]Mark Made a print out of your post???? There is 1030mph rotation
motion at the equator,
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No there isn>t, Bert. Not unless you are comparing the state of the land at
the Equator to something else.
Go to Ecuador and look up at the sky at night.
You can tell you aren>t moving.
and no motion at the exact center of the poles.
[quote]TreBert
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G=EMC^2 Glazier
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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Mark I seem to be missing some thing reading these answers. Earth spins
like a top What else is new. TreBert Ps Columbus had a Jewish mother
and father. His Italian name was Columbo. He was born in northern Italy
in a town called Genoa Became in time a very devote Christian,and so did
his younger brother.All this documented. Made his first trip in 21
days(down hill all the way) Last trip#4 was up hill all the way and
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Saul Levy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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Now you don>t believe in WINDS, Mark? lmfjao!
Boy it sure was WINDY the past two days! lmao!
And I don>t live anywhere near the equator.
Saul Levy
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:40:08 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]There is no such thing as motion. Even at the equator.
That is, there is no such thing as motion until you compare the state of one
object to that of yet another.
Maybe the winds at the equator just haven>t gotten a running start, yet.[/quote] |
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Saul Levy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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SHIT, you have to go to Equador, Mark? lmfjao!
You can get that OPINION from anywhere on Earth.
You>d still be DEAD WRONG!
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Saul Levy
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:12:04 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbertglazier@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:18276-48F1D9D3-94@storefull-3333.bay.webtv.net...
Mark Made a print out of your post???? There is 1030mph rotation
motion at the equator,
No there isn>t, Bert. Not unless you are comparing the state of the land at
the Equator to something else.
Go to Ecuador and look up at the sky at night.
You can tell you aren>t moving.
and no motion at the exact center of the poles.
TreBert[/quote] |
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Jeff▲Relf
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: At the North Pole, “ noon ” is June 21^st, the summer so |
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Double-A
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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On Oct 13, 6:34am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
[quote]Mark I seem to be missing some thing reading these answers. Earth spins
like a top What else is new. TreBert Ps Columbus had a Jewish mother
and father. His Italian name was Columbo. He was born in northern Italy
in a town called Genoa Became in time a very devote Christian,and so did
his younger brother.All this documented. Made his first trip in 21
days(down hill all the way) Last trip#4 was up hill all the way and
took years.
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I read that most medieval ships used Jeish navigators. Christian
sailors weren>t allowed to study math, because it was of the Devil.
But it seems the Devil knew something about navigation!
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Saul Levy
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:03 am Post subject: Re: At the North Pole, noon is June 21^st, the summer so |
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The solstice doesn>t necessarily occur at noon, Jeff.
Saul Levy
On 13 Oct 2008 14:30:22 GMT, Jeff?Relf <Jeff_Relf@Seattle.Invalid>
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Mark Earnest
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:23 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbertglazier@webtv.net> wrote in message
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[quote]Mark I seem to be missing some thing reading these answers. Earth spins
like a top
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Bert,
Only from one frame of reference does Earth spin like a top.
But don>t you think that if Earth really did spin like a top, we would all
get flung off from it?
In one frame of reference the Earth is flat as a pancake. Just go out side
and observe the ground for yourself.
To those that understand relativity, and what it really means, it makes just
as much sense to say that the Earth is motionless, ane the universe revolves
around it, as it is to say that the Earth rotates, and the universe is
motionless.
One day we will be in a spacecraft somewhere between the Milky Way and
Andromeda.
When we are between the two, in primordial drive, we will know the true
meaning of the nature of motionlessness.
Because you can>t have motion unless you are comparing the states of two or
more objects.
If you don>t do that, you are motionless.
Aren>t you motionless right now, as you sit at your keyboard typing?
Of course you are. |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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Mark I got the picture The Earth is flat and since it has no frame of
reference it can not be spinning. It can not be held up by turtles
since we can not see under our feet. Go figure TreBert |
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Double-A
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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On Oct 13, 6:23pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbertglaz...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9869-48F34E57-853@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net...
Mark I seem to be missing some thing reading these answers. Earth spins
like a top
Bert,
Only from one frame of reference does Earth spin like a top.
But don>t you think that if Earth really did spin like a top, we would all
get flung off from it?
In one frame of reference the Earth is flat as a pancake. Just go out side
and observe the ground for yourself.
To those that understand relativity, and what it really means, it makes just
as much sense to say that the Earth is motionless, ane the universe revolves
around it, as it is to say that the Earth rotates, and the universe is
motionless.
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I know I have heard this, but how does this get around the "nothing
moves faster than c" rule with all those stars and galaxies zooming
around the Earth at FTL speeds?
[quote]One day we will be in a spacecraft somewhere between the Milky Way and
Andromeda.
When we are between the two, in primordial drive, we will know the true
meaning of the nature of motionlessness.
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No, we will still be in motion with regards to the two glaxies.
[quote]Because you can>t have motion unless you are comparing the states of two or
more objects.
If you don>t do that, you are motionless.
Aren>t you motionless right now, as you sit at your keyboard typing?
Of course you are.
[/quote]
At least his fingers are in motion.
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Double-A
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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On Oct 13, 6:34am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
[quote]Mark I seem to be missing some thing reading these answers. Earth spins
like a top What else is new. TreBert Ps Columbus had a Jewish mother
and father. His Italian name was Columbo. He was born in northern Italy
in a town called Genoa Became in time a very devote Christian,and so did
his younger brother.All this documented. Made his first trip in 21
days(down hill all the way) Last trip#4 was up hill all the way and
took years.
[/quote]
As a long time Oregonian, I cannot let Columbus Day go by without
thinking of the Columbus Day Storm in 1962, a.k.a Typhoon Freda, a.k.a
"The Big Blow". It hit Oregon with hurricane category 3 force winds.
The next day roofs were gone, trees were down, and the power was out!
My grandfather>s apricot tree that he had raised from a seed was blown
down. The roof of Multnomah Stadium (now PGE Park) in downtown
Portland was half blown off! Driving down the street you could see
trees and power line down everwhere! We were without electricity for
three weeks. Cooking on coleman camping stoves and fireplace.
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/pqr/gallery6.php
Nothing was the same after Columbus Day.
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