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Double-A
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 Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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On Oct 16, 2:49 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]"Double-A" <double...@hush.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 15, 1:35 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Double-A" <double...@hush.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 14, 2:36 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Double-A" <double...@hush.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 13, 6:23 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbertglaz...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Mark I seem to be missing some thing reading these answers. Earth
spins
like a top
Bert,
Only from one frame of reference does Earth spin like a top.
But don>t you think that if Earth really did spin like a top, we would
all
get flung off from it?
In one frame of reference the Earth is flat as a pancake. Just go out
side
and observe the ground for yourself.
To those that understand relativity, and what it really means, it
makes
just
as much sense to say that the Earth is motionless, ane the universe
revolves
around it, as it is to say that the Earth rotates, and the universe is
motionless.
I know I have heard this, but how does this get around the "nothing
moves faster than c" rule with all those stars and galaxies zooming
around the Earth at FTL speeds?
***Relative to the objects around them, they are not moving at all.
Everything>s relative, rememember?
Relative to the motionless Earth they would be moving FTL.
***But that is not what is considered. What is considered is the
speed relative the space fabric where those other stars far away are.
Ah! So it>s the space fabric that>s moving FTL!
Relative to you back on Earth, sure.
> Or should that be
space-time fabric?
Time has nothing to do with it .
[/quote]
Time is deeply embedded.
[quote]Imagine it this way.
If the entire universe is revolving on its huge axis, surely
the stars on one side are moving FTL compared to the stars at the opposite
end.
[/quote]
Right. So it>s probably not doing that.
did you know that although the abosolute rectilinear motion through
space cannot be detected (Michelson–Morley), the absolute rotation of
the Earth can with interferometers?
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Saul Levy
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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You can>t knock yourself out of the paper bag of your education, Mark!
lmfjao!
Are you an educated moron?
Saul Levy
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:09:29 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]Yeah, Saul, you certainly are the one that needed help in this.
Me, I can handle my own.
"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
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Thank you, Paine!
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Saul Levy
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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O.K., BEERTbrain, you asked for this:
f ck OFF!
Saul Levy
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:52:12 -0400, herbertglazier@webtv.net (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:
[quote]Cactus Saul Another worthless sarcastic post worthy of a no brainer
such as you. Post some thing worth while. TreBert[/quote] |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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Cactus saul Your continual use of f ck is arousing Pee Air interest.
Reality is when you tell me to f ck off Its the best offer I have had
all day go figure TreBert |
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Saul Levy
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:04 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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You missed my meaning then, BEERTbrain! lmao!
Saul Levy
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:36:48 -0400, herbertglazier@webtv.net (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:
[quote]Cactus saul Your continual use of f ck is arousing Pee Air interest.
Reality is when you tell me to f ck off Its the best offer I have had
all day go figure TreBert[/quote] |
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Painius
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:36 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Trade winds) |
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You>re welcome, Saul!
"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message...
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[quote]
Thank you, Paine!
Saul Levy
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:07:51 GMT, "Painius" <starswirlernosp@maol.com
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:35:55 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
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I DO think you know NOTHING, Mark! lmao!
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Coming from a bird brain like you...that means absolutely nothing!
ROFLMAO!
Anyone can compare my posts to yours, Mark.
It>s very clear that you are TOTALLY FUCKED UP!
All of your basic premises are just NONSENSE!
Saul Levy
There is no "anyone, " because you are just plain STUPID!
I have to go along with Saul on this one, Mark. For
the most part, i like your posts because you are out
of the box. However, sometimes you>re so *far* out
of the box that when you look back, you can>t see it.
You just can>t see it.
You can keep your head in the clouds, but you also
have to keep your feet on the ground.
A great power circuit that>s not grounded only serves
to shock people. Most people run from shocks. And
you are left to fight off the Saul of the world. Only to
help you, i suggest you try some grounding things.
Music helps. Getting laid ain>t too shabby, either! <g
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happy days and...
starry starry nights!
--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth
P.S. (to a young physics student) "Your theory is
crazy, but it>s not crazy enough to be true."
[quote]Niels Bohr
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P.P.S.: http://yummycake.secretsgolden.com
http://garden-of-ebooks.blogspot.com
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oldcoot
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Entrained flow fields, interferometers, and Old Dog Hair |
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On Oct 17, 12:55 pm, Double-A <double...@hush.com> wrote:
[quote]
...did you know that.. the abosolute rectilinear motion through
space cannot be detected (Michelson–Morley)...?
Correct. As discussed here numerous times, the Earth or any[/quote]
gravitating body carries with it an *entrained flow field" (EFF), i.e,
the 'reverse starburst' flow field extending out many radii from the
gravitator. At the body>s surface the flow is straight 'down'. Thus
there is *no* lateral component to the flow irrespective of the body>s
motion through space. Since the MM experiment was designed to detect
only a lateral flow, the null result was to be expected and is
entirely consistent with the vertical flow of the Earth>s EFF (aka
gravitational field or gravity well).
[quote]
In conjunction with the null MMX, the aberration of star light[/quote]
(apparent displacement of a star from its 'true' position due to
Earth>s motion through space) had once been deemed "proof" of non-
existance of the spatial medium. It>s one of Zinni>s favorite
recitations. :-) But it is the natural result of starlight crossing
the EFF to the planet>s surface.
[quote]..(did you know) the absolute rotation of
the Earth can be detected with interferometers?
Yep. But not its rectilinear motion through space.[/quote]
The question has been asked, "why not set up an
interferometer with a vertical arm to detect the EFF>s vertical flow?"
Well, the vertical arm would undergo a Lorentzian contraction exactly
cancelling the expected fringing, again rendering a null result. |
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oldcoot
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: Entrained flow fields, interferometers, and Old Dog Hair |
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Erratum :
Oc wrote:
[quote]..the vertical (interferometer) arm would undergo a Lorentzian contraction > exactly cancelling the expected fringing, again rendering a null result.
[/quote]
....should read,
"..the vertical arm would undergo *elongation* exactly cancelling the
expected fringing, again rendering a null result."
This is because space and any embedded matter are stretched (not
contracted) in the direction of flow in a gravity well. (Blush :-)) |
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Double-A
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Entrained flow fields, interferometers, and Old Dog Hair |
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On Oct 19, 8:10 am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
[quote]oc Is a gravity well a hole in space? Can a black hole be considered a
hole in space?
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Space has no holes.
[quote] Can a rupture in space fabric create a gravity hole.?
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Space fabric has no ruptures, needs no support belts.
[quote]Is space fabric the source of gravity if we use it like a rubber sheet?
Use this space fabric for stretching in to concave space for falling in
and in very far away deep space snapping out and expanding convexing
Ooops there I go again with my Nobel thinking on concave and convex
space theory that answers universe mysteries TreBert
[/quote]
I saw the the Nobel award for physics was just awarded to 3
scientists, but your name wasn>t amoung them. Better luck next year.
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G=EMC^2 Glazier
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: Entrained flow fields, interferometers, and Old Dog Hair |
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oc Is a gravity well a hole in space? Can a black hole be considered a
hole in space? Can a rupture in space fabric create a gravity hole.?
Is space fabric the source of gravity if we use it like a rubber sheet?
Use this space fabric for stretching in to concave space for falling in
and in very far away deep space snapping out and expanding convexing
Ooops there I go again with my Nobel thinking on concave and convex
space theory that answers universe mysteries TreBert |
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