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Mark Earnest Guest
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
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[quote]Was your hell a mental institution, Mark? lmao!
[/quote]
It was one of them. I developed about fifty parents and teachers of reality
in those days, about 30 years ago now.
If you don>t mind the stigma, it is well worth the expense.
[quote]
I never heard of a Ph.D. in reality. What do you claim is your degree
in?
[/quote]
Just reality. I was taught by some of the greatest minds in the world.
Some of them wandered the streets, and some of them were met
in street shelters.
And I came to know something I read from "Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the
Christ" one time: in public office are the woodheads of reality, and
wandering the streets are the masterminds, from which I concluded, the world
is upside down.
[quote]
Of course I never run out of naysay for you. You keep setting
yourself up all the time.
[/quote]
I intend to. That way the commotion will continue.
I knew you were a WACKO a long time ago.
[quote]Your latest postings can leave no one in any doubt! lmao!
[/quote]
Every intellect runs into a little craziness once in awhile.
That is what keeps his wheels from getting rusty and jamming
to a grinding halt.
It is also the basis of humor, needed to lighten things up.
When you laugh, I know I succeded, because the whole idea
is to leave a little sunshine.
And never mind that it is at my expense.
My credit in the vaults of the universe are unlimited. |
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Mark Earnest Guest
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
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[quote]President Harding>s reply is perfectly correct, Mark! lmao!
Too bad your lack of education precludes you from any understanding of
it.
You ARE a total failure! Were your teachers to blame for this?
Saul Levy
[/quote]
No, my teachers taught me that nothing can be divided by zero.
Naturally being one who loves to buck the system, I decided that I could. |
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Timberwoof Guest
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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In article <230720082008352794%wgh@neff.c0m>,
"Warren G. Harding" <wgh@neff.c0m> wrote:
[quote]Mark Earnest <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:r7dd84hud75iijfmc9ngpfbnhrffv7t6mc@4ax.com...
You just failed Grade 4 or 5 math, Mark!
DIVISION BY ZERO IS NOT DEFINED, PERIOD!
That is a LAW (rule) of math. It cannot be changed.
1000000/0 can be 1000, or 10001, 50000000 or even infinity. All those
answers would have to be acceptable under your rules. Under math none
are acceptable. Math has fixed rules. You can>t just go and change
any you don>t like.
Saul Levy
You just flunked first grade. You have one baked pie and divide it into no
parts at all, how many peices of pie do you get? One! Since you did not
even sink the knife into the pie at all!
Ask a kid if that one is too hard for you.
You may be amazed.
You are wrong, division by zero is an infinity, and your own example of
a pie divided into zero parts demonstrates your error. By not using
the knife, you have not performed any operation, division or otherwise,
and therefore you cannot claim that 1/0 = 1:
x / 0 = infinity, for all x except zero and +/- infinity
[/quote]
No. X/0 is not defined. However,
x/n -> ƒ as n -> 0
Not the same thing. The expression -> ƒ is best stated "increases
without bound".
--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don>t blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier Guest
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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To Ya All (Florida talk) Gas and Gravity equals heat. The Sun is proof
of that. Just put A NEW COMPRESSOR in my van another proof that a
compressed gas gives off heat. Love to fix airconditioners. I fix them
for free and that is very reasonable. Go figure Bert |
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Saul Levy Guest
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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I thought so, Mark! lmao! Did they make you pay for your
incarceration?
I hate to inform you that MOST people living on the streets or in
shelters are INSANE or far over the edge! I didn>t say ALL! You
really should love reading BEERTbrain>s theories.
I wrote here a long time ago that learning from INSANE people is not
being helpful (to you).
Of course the world seems upside down to you. That>s the clearest
mark (!) of the INSANE.
Religion is mostly INSANE too! I believe! Well, gosh durn it!
Saul Levy
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:28:36 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]
"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
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Was your hell a mental institution, Mark? lmao!
It was one of them. I developed about fifty parents and teachers of reality
in those days, about 30 years ago now.
If you don>t mind the stigma, it is well worth the expense.
I never heard of a Ph.D. in reality. What do you claim is your degree
in?
Just reality. I was taught by some of the greatest minds in the world.
Some of them wandered the streets, and some of them were met
in street shelters.
And I came to know something I read from "Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the
Christ" one time: in public office are the woodheads of reality, and
wandering the streets are the masterminds, from which I concluded, the world
is upside down.
Of course I never run out of naysay for you. You keep setting
yourself up all the time.
I intend to. That way the commotion will continue.
I knew you were a WACKO a long time ago.
Your latest postings can leave no one in any doubt! lmao!
Every intellect runs into a little craziness once in awhile.
That is what keeps his wheels from getting rusty and jamming
to a grinding halt.
It is also the basis of humor, needed to lighten things up.
When you laugh, I know I succeded, because the whole idea
is to leave a little sunshine.
And never mind that it is at my expense.
My credit in the vaults of the universe are unlimited.[/quote] |
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Saul Levy Guest
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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You should have believed more in them then, Mark! lmao!
Bucking the system will (has) land(ed) you in a mental institution
which is NOT fun for most people.
Saul Levy
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:30:02 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]
"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:706g84555ffumthrr7dogiu48hsqft78eo@4ax.com...
President Harding>s reply is perfectly correct, Mark! lmao!
Too bad your lack of education precludes you from any understanding of
it.
You ARE a total failure! Were your teachers to blame for this?
Saul Levy
No, my teachers taught me that nothing can be divided by zero.
Naturally being one who loves to buck the system, I decided that I could.[/quote] |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier Guest
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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Cactus Saul My email tells me my posts,and theories are gone over in
many universities all over the world. I answered all my emails with a
picture of Moby my pet octopus,and made him the most famous octopus in
the world. That was then and reality is I get few of these ego
flattering emails now. So you could be right Saul I am old at 80 and a
half Go figure Bert |
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Saul Levy Guest
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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Pickled brains gather no Nobels, BEERTbrain! lmao!
Saul Levy
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:07:34 -0400, herbertglazier@webtv.net (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:
[quote]Cactus Saul My email tells me my posts,and theories are gone over in
many universities all over the world. I answered all my emails with a
picture of Moby my pet octopus,and made him the most famous octopus in
the world. That was then and reality is I get few of these ego
flattering emails now. So you could be right Saul I am old at 80 and a
half Go figure Bert[/quote] |
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Warren G. Harding Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:34 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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Timberwoof <timberwoof.spam@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
[quote]In article <230720082008352794%wgh@neff.c0m>,
"Warren G. Harding" <wgh@neff.c0m> wrote:
Mark Earnest <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:r7dd84hud75iijfmc9ngpfbnhrffv7t6mc@4ax.com...
You just failed Grade 4 or 5 math, Mark!
DIVISION BY ZERO IS NOT DEFINED, PERIOD!
That is a LAW (rule) of math. It cannot be changed.
1000000/0 can be 1000, or 10001, 50000000 or even infinity. All those
answers would have to be acceptable under your rules. Under math none
are acceptable. Math has fixed rules. You can>t just go and change
any you don>t like.
Saul Levy
You just flunked first grade. You have one baked pie and divide it into no
parts at all, how many peices of pie do you get? One! Since you did not
even sink the knife into the pie at all!
Ask a kid if that one is too hard for you.
You may be amazed.
You are wrong, division by zero is an infinity, and your own example of
a pie divided into zero parts demonstrates your error. By not using
the knife, you have not performed any operation, division or otherwise,
and therefore you cannot claim that 1/0 = 1:
x / 0 = infinity, for all x except zero and +/- infinity
No. X/0 is not defined. However,
x/n -> ƒ as n -> 0
Not the same thing. The expression -> ƒ is best stated "increases
without bound".
[/quote]
You are correct. I was speaking from a computational standpoint, where
X/0 is defined as the special value of "infinity" by the IEEE floating
point binary arithmetic standard. And my statement that infinity over
0 is undefined is incorrect, it defines infinity over zero as infinity.
0/0 is given the special value of "Not a Number". |
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Warren G. Harding Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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Mark Earnest <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]"Warren G. Harding" <wgh@neff.c0m> wrote in message
news:230720082008352794%wgh@neff.c0m...
Mark Earnest <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:r7dd84hud75iijfmc9ngpfbnhrffv7t6mc@4ax.com...
You just failed Grade 4 or 5 math, Mark!
DIVISION BY ZERO IS NOT DEFINED, PERIOD!
That is a LAW (rule) of math. It cannot be changed.
1000000/0 can be 1000, or 10001, 50000000 or even infinity. All those
answers would have to be acceptable under your rules. Under math none
are acceptable. Math has fixed rules. You can>t just go and change
any you don>t like.
Saul Levy
You just flunked first grade. You have one baked pie and divide it into
no
parts at all, how many peices of pie do you get? One! Since you did not
even sink the knife into the pie at all!
Ask a kid if that one is too hard for you.
You may be amazed.
You are wrong, division by zero is an infinity, and your own example of
a pie divided into zero parts demonstrates your error. By not using
the knife, you have not performed any operation, division or otherwise,
and therefore you cannot claim that 1/0 = 1:
x / 0 = infinity, for all x except zero and +/- infinity
No, you failed first grade, too.
x/0 = x, in ever case, because x is what you started with, and nothing, that
is 0, has ever happened to it.
[/quote]
This is an algebraic absurdity.
If
x/0 = x
and
x/1 = x,
then
x/0 = x/1
and
0 = 1.
Warm fuzzies such as the one below will not get you out of this
dilemma. I>ll let you try to explain how one pie is exactly the same
as no pies.
[quote]
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they are the only ones that will understand this.
And most of those, these days, as I said, are children.
[/quote]
Obviously you don>t understand, ergo you are not a child. |
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Warren G. Harding Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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Mark Earnest <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:706g84555ffumthrr7dogiu48hsqft78eo@4ax.com...
President Harding>s reply is perfectly correct, Mark! lmao!
Too bad your lack of education precludes you from any understanding of
it.
You ARE a total failure! Were your teachers to blame for this?
Saul Levy
No, my teachers taught me that nothing can be divided by zero.
Naturally being one who loves to buck the system, I decided that I could.
[/quote]
Do you like to drive cars headlong into concrete walls also? |
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Mark Earnest Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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"Warren G. Harding" <wgh@neff.c0m> wrote in message
news:240720082008585725%wgh@neff.c0m...
[quote]Mark Earnest <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Warren G. Harding" <wgh@neff.c0m> wrote in message
news:230720082008352794%wgh@neff.c0m...
Mark Earnest <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:r7dd84hud75iijfmc9ngpfbnhrffv7t6mc@4ax.com...
You just failed Grade 4 or 5 math, Mark!
DIVISION BY ZERO IS NOT DEFINED, PERIOD!
That is a LAW (rule) of math. It cannot be changed.
1000000/0 can be 1000, or 10001, 50000000 or even infinity. All those
answers would have to be acceptable under your rules. Under math none
are acceptable. Math has fixed rules. You can>t just go and change
any you don>t like.
Saul Levy
You just flunked first grade. You have one baked pie and divide it into
no
parts at all, how many peices of pie do you get? One! Since you did
not
even sink the knife into the pie at all!
Ask a kid if that one is too hard for you.
You may be amazed.
You are wrong, division by zero is an infinity, and your own example of
a pie divided into zero parts demonstrates your error. By not using
the knife, you have not performed any operation, division or otherwise,
and therefore you cannot claim that 1/0 = 1:
x / 0 = infinity, for all x except zero and +/- infinity
No, you failed first grade, too.
x/0 = x, in ever case, because x is what you started with, and nothing,
that
is 0, has ever happened to it.
This is an algebraic absurdity.
If
x/0 = x
and
x/1 = x,
then
x/0 = x/1
and
0 = 1.
[/quote]
That is not logical. Just because you write down some agreed upon harmonic
notes does not mean you have established anything.
I.E., numbers mean nothing at all...until they represent something in
the real world.
[quote]
Warm fuzzies such as the one below will not get you out of this
dilemma. I>ll let you try to explain how one pie is exactly the same
as no pies.
[/quote]
One pie divided zero times is one pie.
One pie divided one time is in a way, two pies.
You>ve got to understand, numbers mean nothing at all until you have some
idea as to what in the real world they represent.
In this case, a pie by itself, makes a mockery out of modern algebra.
[quote]
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they are the only ones that will understand this.
And most of those, these days, as I said, are children.
Obviously you don>t understand, ergo you are not a child.
[/quote]
No, but I aspire to be more like them in very many ways.
And mathematicians can argue the rhymes of zero all they want...
.....but zero just means nothing, and that is all it means. |
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Timberwoof Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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In article <240720082008585725%wgh@neff.c0m>,
"Warren G. Harding" <wgh@neff.c0m> wrote:
[quote]Mark Earnest <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Warren G. Harding" <wgh@neff.c0m> wrote in message
news:230720082008352794%wgh@neff.c0m...
Mark Earnest <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:r7dd84hud75iijfmc9ngpfbnhrffv7t6mc@4ax.com...
You just failed Grade 4 or 5 math, Mark!
DIVISION BY ZERO IS NOT DEFINED, PERIOD!
That is a LAW (rule) of math. It cannot be changed.
1000000/0 can be 1000, or 10001, 50000000 or even infinity. All those
answers would have to be acceptable under your rules. Under math none
are acceptable. Math has fixed rules. You can>t just go and change
any you don>t like.
Saul Levy
You just flunked first grade. You have one baked pie and divide it into
no
parts at all, how many peices of pie do you get? One! Since you did not
even sink the knife into the pie at all!
Ask a kid if that one is too hard for you.
You may be amazed.
You are wrong, division by zero is an infinity, and your own example of
a pie divided into zero parts demonstrates your error. By not using
the knife, you have not performed any operation, division or otherwise,
and therefore you cannot claim that 1/0 = 1:
x / 0 = infinity, for all x except zero and +/- infinity
No, you failed first grade, too.
x/0 = x, in ever case, because x is what you started with, and nothing, that
is 0, has ever happened to it.
This is an algebraic absurdity.
[/quote]
You probably meant to put a colon where you put a period.
[quote]If
x/0 = x
and
x/1 = x,
then
x/0 = x/1
and
0 = 1.
Warm fuzzies such as the one below will not get you out of this
dilemma. I>ll let you try to explain how one pie is exactly the same
as no pies.
[/quote]
First of all, X/0 ‚ X . X/t as t->0 = ƒ .
Second of all, you don>t have a dilemma. A dilemma is the situation of
having two equally bad choices to make. Think of being between a rock
and a hard place.
--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don>t blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. |
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Saul Levy Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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Contrary to your lack of knowledge, Mark, mathematics is totally
logical and works whether there is any real-world application or not.
Algebra is the same way. Calculus is the same way. Actually algebra
and calculus are BEAUTIFUL because you CAN do real-world things with
them and find out answers to important questions in an easy fashion
which are much more difficult to determine in other ways.
Math is called the QUEEN of the sciences.
Saul Levy
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:12:49 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]That is not logical. Just because you write down some agreed upon harmonic
notes does not mean you have established anything.
I.E., numbers mean nothing at all...until they represent something in
the real world.
Warm fuzzies such as the one below will not get you out of this
dilemma. I>ll let you try to explain how one pie is exactly the same
as no pies.
One pie divided zero times is one pie.
One pie divided one time is in a way, two pies.
You>ve got to understand, numbers mean nothing at all until you have some
idea as to what in the real world they represent.
In this case, a pie by itself, makes a mockery out of modern algebra.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they are the only ones that will understand this.
And most of those, these days, as I said, are children.
Obviously you don>t understand, ergo you are not a child.
No, but I aspire to be more like them in very many ways.
And mathematicians can argue the rhymes of zero all they want...
....but zero just means nothing, and that is all it means.[/quote] |
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Warren G. Harding Guest
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:37 am Post subject: Re: What if (on Sun) |
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Timberwoof <timberwoof.spam@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
[quote]In article <240720082008585725%wgh@neff.c0m>,
"Warren G. Harding" <wgh@neff.c0m> wrote:
Mark Earnest <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Warren G. Harding" <wgh@neff.c0m> wrote in message
news:230720082008352794%wgh@neff.c0m...
Mark Earnest <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:r7dd84hud75iijfmc9ngpfbnhrffv7t6mc@4ax.com...
You just failed Grade 4 or 5 math, Mark!
DIVISION BY ZERO IS NOT DEFINED, PERIOD!
That is a LAW (rule) of math. It cannot be changed.
1000000/0 can be 1000, or 10001, 50000000 or even infinity. All those
answers would have to be acceptable under your rules. Under math none
are acceptable. Math has fixed rules. You can>t just go and change
any you don>t like.
Saul Levy
You just flunked first grade. You have one baked pie and divide it into
no
parts at all, how many peices of pie do you get? One! Since you did not
even sink the knife into the pie at all!
Ask a kid if that one is too hard for you.
You may be amazed.
You are wrong, division by zero is an infinity, and your own example of
a pie divided into zero parts demonstrates your error. By not using
the knife, you have not performed any operation, division or otherwise,
and therefore you cannot claim that 1/0 = 1:
x / 0 = infinity, for all x except zero and +/- infinity
No, you failed first grade, too.
x/0 = x, in ever case, because x is what you started with, and nothing,
that
is 0, has ever happened to it.
This is an algebraic absurdity.
You probably meant to put a colon where you put a period.
[/quote]
Quibbling over the formatting of a proof is quite pointless here.
Earnest is completely uneducable, as demonstrated by his reply.
[quote]
If
x/0 = x
and
x/1 = x,
then
x/0 = x/1
and
0 = 1.
Warm fuzzies such as the one below will not get you out of this
dilemma. I>ll let you try to explain how one pie is exactly the same
as no pies.
First of all, X/0 ‚ X . X/t as t->0 = ƒ .
[/quote]
That x/0 = x is Earnest>s assertion, not mine. I started from his
position and demonstrated his absurdity.
[quote]
Second of all, you don>t have a dilemma. A dilemma is the situation of
having two equally bad choices to make. Think of being between a rock
and a hard place.
[/quote]
Now this is picking all the nits. |
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