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G=EMC^2 Glazier Guest
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: What if (on lone Stars) |
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What if there are more stars out side a galaxy that those that are the
structure of galaxies? Not hard to figure Galaxies for the most
part are so far away they are seen as a single dot of light. Some so far
away only detected by are great radio telescopes like the one in Chili.
What humankind can not detect does not mean its not out there. We could
put lone stars down for missing matter. Light from these stars obeys
the inverse square law. Light from these distant stars have to go
though gas and dust to hit the Earth. Lots of these distant stars that
were like our sun have in this spacetime evolved into types of dwarf
stars. All this makes this thinking reality. We can not rule out what
we can not detect. After all we are only human Best to keep in mind we
can not see most of the stars in our galaxy. Now I read the number of
stars in the Milky Way is up to 4 billion,or more That begs the
question How many stars in the very bright core? Bert |
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BradGuth Guest
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on lone Stars) |
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Rogue items or "lone stars" outside of any galactic grip may be
similar to those rogue black holes that seem to come and go. There>s
no good reason to think that a given rogue star wouldn>t have taken
along a companion binary plus few of its original planets w/moons.
Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
[quote]What if there are more stars out side a galaxy that those that are the
structure of galaxies? Not hard to figure Galaxies for the most
part are so far away they are seen as a single dot of light. Some so far
away only detected by are great radio telescopes like the one in Chili.
What humankind can not detect does not mean its not out there. We could
put lone stars down for missing matter. Light from these stars obeys
the inverse square law. Light from these distant stars have to go
though gas and dust to hit the Earth. Lots of these distant stars that
were like our sun have in this spacetime evolved into types of dwarf
stars. All this makes this thinking reality. We can not rule out what
we can not detect. After all we are only human Best to keep in mind we
can not see most of the stars in our galaxy. Now I read the number of
stars in the Milky Way is up to 4 billion,or more That begs the
question How many stars in the very bright core? Bert[/quote] |
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Hagar Guest
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on lone Stars) |
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbertglazier@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:19078-4885D6B8-237@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net...
[quote]What if there are more stars out side a galaxy that those that are the
structure of galaxies? Not hard to figure Galaxies for the most
part are so far away they are seen as a single dot of light. Some so far
away only detected by are great radio telescopes like the one in Chili.
What humankind can not detect does not mean its not out there. We could
put lone stars down for missing matter. Light from these stars obeys
the inverse square law. Light from these distant stars have to go
though gas and dust to hit the Earth. Lots of these distant stars that
were like our sun have in this spacetime evolved into types of dwarf
stars. All this makes this thinking reality. We can not rule out what
we can not detect. After all we are only human Best to keep in mind we
can not see most of the stars in our galaxy. Now I read the number of
stars in the Milky Way is up to 4 billion,or more That begs the
question How many stars in the very bright core? Bert
[/quote]
The correct figure of stars in the Milky Way is a minimum of 200 billion and
possibly 400 billion stars, depending on the number of yet unseen low-mass
stars such as white and brown dwarfs. The center bulge has been revised to
a thickness of 12,000LYs, almost double the previous value. I am also sure
that the Universe abounds with rogue stars, which somehow were ejected from
their host galaxies and are just careening through space. But I also think
that this number is far smaller than you think, Beeert. |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier Guest
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: What if (on lone Stars) |
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Hagar Nice post 200 Billion or 400 billion is a big spread. Still it
helps my thinking as being on the money There might be 6 trillion
galaxies or 12 trillion galaxies Go figure Who is counting
Whats 6 trillion one way or another Up is the same as down Bert |
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Jeffâ–˛Relf Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:42 am Post subject: Why is the solar system so different than the Milky Way ? |
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95 percent of the Milky Way>s gravitational mass remains unseen,
lurking on the outer edge of the visible stars !
Conversely, 99 percent of the mass in our solar system
is in the sun, at the very center.
Why is the solar system so different than the Milky Way ?
Hopefully, I>ll live long enough to see this mystery revealed. |
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Saul Levy Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:48 am Post subject: Re: What if (on lone Stars) |
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A mere factor of TWO is BIG, BEERTbrain? lmao!
Not so.
Saul Levy
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:30:27 -0400, herbertglazier@webtv.net (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:
[quote]Hagar Nice post 200 Billion or 400 billion is a big spread. Still it
helps my thinking as being on the money There might be 6 trillion
galaxies or 12 trillion galaxies Go figure Who is counting
Whats 6 trillion one way or another Up is the same as down Bert[/quote] |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:59 am Post subject: Re: What if (on lone Stars) and Lone Gas, Rock Planets |
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Our solar system has 8 planets and a Sun. Take away the Sun and you
still have 8 planets. Planets did not come out of the Sun Weak
theory has them as just fine dust that decided to stick together rather
than fall into the Sun. To say rock and large gas planets need
a Sun to exists is also bad thinking. I have a theory I>ve been hiding
that will tell you rock planets came from the Oort cloud,and are older
than The Sun. Gas Planets Im still thinking about ,but going with the
accretion disk theory,so as not to hurt the imperial thinkers egos
Bert |
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Saul Levy Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:02 am Post subject: Re: What if (on lone Stars) and Lone Gas, Rock Planets |
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Sounds like another WEIRD one, BEERTbrain! lmao!
Saul Levy
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:59:12 -0400, herbertglazier@webtv.net (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:
[quote]Our solar system has 8 planets and a Sun. Take away the Sun and you
still have 8 planets. Planets did not come out of the Sun Weak
theory has them as just fine dust that decided to stick together rather
than fall into the Sun. To say rock and large gas planets need
a Sun to exists is also bad thinking. I have a theory I>ve been hiding
that will tell you rock planets came from the Oort cloud,and are older
than The Sun. Gas Planets Im still thinking about ,but going with the
accretion disk theory,so as not to hurt the imperial thinkers egos
Bert[/quote] |
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BradGuth Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:38 am Post subject: Re: What if (on lone Stars) |
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On Jul 22, 11:22 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]"Saul Levy" <saulle...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:2gdd84pblkmc02utt1e9ds8aepk0bp4fkh@4ax.com...
Stars have one habit that>s a LAW too, Mark. They emit ENERGY! lmao!
I>m sure that>s a surprise for you, but they also have to GENERATE
that energy internally by some atomic process. Just using GRAVITY to
collapse a mass to generate energy does NOT produce a STAR and cannot
keep a STAR glowing for BILLIONS of years.
So STARS are readily noticable by looking for that energy. You cannot
hide even a tiny such energy source from infrared detectors. They
will stick out like sore thumbs.
No mystical nonsense needed!
Saul Levy
Nothing generates more energy than you put into it.
So there is no explanation as to how stars got all their energy to
begin with.
Unless you conceive of unknown elements.
It isn>t that mystical. It is just an expansion of chemistry.
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:08:17 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbertglaz...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:19078-4885D6B8-237@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net...
What if there are more stars out side a galaxy that those that are the
structure of galaxies? Not hard to figure Galaxies for the most
part are so far away they are seen as a single dot of light. Some so far
away only detected by are great radio telescopes like the one in Chili.
What humankind can not detect does not mean its not out there. We could
put lone stars down for missing matter. Light from these stars obeys
the inverse square law. Light from these distant stars have to go
though gas and dust to hit the Earth. Lots of these distant stars that
were like our sun have in this spacetime evolved into types of dwarf
stars. All this makes this thinking reality. We can not rule out what
we can not detect. After all we are only human Best to keep in mind we
can not see most of the stars in our galaxy. Now I read the number of
stars in the Milky Way is up to 4 billion,or more That begs the
question How many stars in the very bright core? Bert
Lone stars in the vastness of intergalactic space?
How would we ever find them?
How could anyone ever even know about them?
How could the people of planets that orbit them ever manage trade
with other civilizations in space?
[/quote]
That>s very good advise. Too bad the faith-based mainstream isn>t
buying into any of it.
- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth |
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BradGuth Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:44 am Post subject: Re: What if (on lone Stars) and Lone Gas, Rock Planets |
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On Jul 22, 11:17 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]"Saul Levy" <saulle...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:7tdd84dkqro0r2k09iigiaqhinaf0335fc@4ax.com...
Maybe you noticed on the Apollo moon missions that dust stuck to the
boots of the astronauts? How could that possibly happen under your
views? Their boot prints are still up there with dust compressed in
the shapes on the soles of their boots. That dust is STICKING
TOGETHER!
Unless you>re a Moon landing naysayer, of course.
Saul Levy
Only in free outer space, there is nothing to compress the dust together.
Try again, please.
[/quote]
TeraVolts of an electrostatic charge shouldn>t be discounted, and then
a good many meteorites have been know to be a little magnetic.
- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth |
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Mark Earnest Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: Re: What if (on lone Stars) |
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbertglazier@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:19078-4885D6B8-237@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net...
[quote]What if there are more stars out side a galaxy that those that are the
structure of galaxies? Not hard to figure Galaxies for the most
part are so far away they are seen as a single dot of light. Some so far
away only detected by are great radio telescopes like the one in Chili.
What humankind can not detect does not mean its not out there. We could
put lone stars down for missing matter. Light from these stars obeys
the inverse square law. Light from these distant stars have to go
though gas and dust to hit the Earth. Lots of these distant stars that
were like our sun have in this spacetime evolved into types of dwarf
stars. All this makes this thinking reality. We can not rule out what
we can not detect. After all we are only human Best to keep in mind we
can not see most of the stars in our galaxy. Now I read the number of
stars in the Milky Way is up to 4 billion,or more That begs the
question How many stars in the very bright core? Bert
[/quote]
Lone stars in the vastness of intergalactic space?
How would we ever find them?
How could anyone ever even know about them?
How could the people of planets that orbit them ever manage trade
with other civilizations in space? |
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Mark Earnest Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: Re: What if (on lone Stars) and Lone Gas, Rock Planets |
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbertglazier@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5509-48866640-20@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net...
[quote]Our solar system has 8 planets and a Sun. Take away the Sun and you
still have 8 planets. Planets did not come out of the Sun Weak
theory has them as just fine dust that decided to stick together rather
than fall into the Sun. To say rock and large gas planets need
a Sun to exists is also bad thinking. I have a theory I>ve been hiding
that will tell you rock planets came from the Oort cloud,and are older
than The Sun. Gas Planets Im still thinking about ,but going with the
accretion disk theory,so as not to hurt the imperial thinkers egos
Bert
[/quote]
How could dust decide to stick together? Are saying that dust is
intelligent?
But then again, how else could dust just suddenly stick together?
Don>t come up with an answer right off, and you will avoid
jumping to conclusions, and may actually figure this one out. |
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Saul Levy Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: Re: Why is the solar system so different than the Milky Way |
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Trying to mix apples and oranges, Jeff? lmao!
Saul Levy
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:42:07 +0200 (CEST), Jeff?Relf
<Jeff_Relf@0.Invalid> wrote:
[quote]95 percent of the Milky Way>s gravitational mass remains unseen,
lurking on the outer edge of the visible stars !
Conversely, 99 percent of the mass in our solar system
is in the sun, at the very center.
Why is the solar system so different than the Milky Way ?
Hopefully, I>ll live long enough to see this mystery revealed.[/quote] |
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Saul Levy Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: Re: What if (on lone Stars) |
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Stars have one habit that>s a LAW too, Mark. They emit ENERGY! lmao!
I>m sure that>s a surprise for you, but they also have to GENERATE
that energy internally by some atomic process. Just using GRAVITY to
collapse a mass to generate energy does NOT produce a STAR and cannot
keep a STAR glowing for BILLIONS of years.
So STARS are readily noticable by looking for that energy. You cannot
hide even a tiny such energy source from infrared detectors. They
will stick out like sore thumbs.
No mystical nonsense needed!
Saul Levy
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:08:17 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbertglazier@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:19078-4885D6B8-237@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net...
What if there are more stars out side a galaxy that those that are the
structure of galaxies? Not hard to figure Galaxies for the most
part are so far away they are seen as a single dot of light. Some so far
away only detected by are great radio telescopes like the one in Chili.
What humankind can not detect does not mean its not out there. We could
put lone stars down for missing matter. Light from these stars obeys
the inverse square law. Light from these distant stars have to go
though gas and dust to hit the Earth. Lots of these distant stars that
were like our sun have in this spacetime evolved into types of dwarf
stars. All this makes this thinking reality. We can not rule out what
we can not detect. After all we are only human Best to keep in mind we
can not see most of the stars in our galaxy. Now I read the number of
stars in the Milky Way is up to 4 billion,or more That begs the
question How many stars in the very bright core? Bert
Lone stars in the vastness of intergalactic space?
How would we ever find them?
How could anyone ever even know about them?
How could the people of planets that orbit them ever manage trade
with other civilizations in space?[/quote] |
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Saul Levy Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: Re: What if (on lone Stars) and Lone Gas, Rock Planets |
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Maybe you noticed on the Apollo moon missions that dust stuck to the
boots of the astronauts? How could that possibly happen under your
views? Their boot prints are still up there with dust compressed in
the shapes on the soles of their boots. That dust is STICKING
TOGETHER!
Unless you>re a Moon landing naysayer, of course.
Saul Levy
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:33:11 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbertglazier@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5509-48866640-20@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net...
Our solar system has 8 planets and a Sun. Take away the Sun and you
still have 8 planets. Planets did not come out of the Sun Weak
theory has them as just fine dust that decided to stick together rather
than fall into the Sun. To say rock and large gas planets need
a Sun to exists is also bad thinking. I have a theory I>ve been hiding
that will tell you rock planets came from the Oort cloud,and are older
than The Sun. Gas Planets Im still thinking about ,but going with the
accretion disk theory,so as not to hurt the imperial thinkers egos
Bert
How could dust decide to stick together? Are saying that dust is
intelligent?
But then again, how else could dust just suddenly stick together?
Don>t come up with an answer right off, and you will avoid
jumping to conclusions, and may actually figure this one out.[/quote] |
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