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Mark Earnest · Guest

"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
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[quote]That apparently is true, Mark! lmao!

Your views are so WEIRD that no one else could have them!

Except when experts like Dr. Kaler say things, you should PAY
ATTENTION! You know NOTHING about star formation, but he does.

Science was built on the shoulders of many people. No one single
person could possibly learn everything all by themselves. There is
too much to learn. By failing to learn from others, you have DOOMED
yourself to FAILURE!

Have a nice life, LOSER!
[/quote]
Loser? Is there some game going on that no one told me about?

Mark Earnest · Guest

"BradGuth" <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]On Jul 24, 1:12 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Timberwoof" <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote in message

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In article <tp-dne7jd_AYTRrVnZ2dnUVZ_ovin...@posted.internetamerica>,
"Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

dkel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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..

Hi Two counter acting forces. Gravity pulls things together. Heat
pushes things apart. If even a gas is cold enough it will tend to
clump together by gravity. If enough clumps to gether, the gravity
will win out over the heating, caused by the clumping. Also, the
heat of clumping is quickly lost by radiation. As more tends to
clump, it takes more heat to disperse it. As long as there is more
gas to fall into this gravity center, it will get denser. It
continues to lose the heat of being compressed but as long as the
gravity gets larger, it continues to take more and more heat to
keep it from compressing together. Once enough hydrogen collects
and gets hot enough, a thermal fusing of hydrogen to helium will
take place. Mass is converted to energy that is the heat and light
we see of a star. This causes the star to expand, slowing the
conversion of hydrogen to helium. This regulates the burning of the
hydrogen to keep the star working for long periods of time. What is
so hard about that?

Several things. Just because space dust is cold will not make it
clump. You seem to be imagining ice crystals causing snowballs or
something, which could not happen in a vacuum.

You mean like comets?

Comets cannot be just dirty snowballs, either, or the Sun would melt them
as they go around it

And gravity will not pull space dust together.

Yes, it will.

Next time you are in a place with dust, just observe. Without some
kind of help, it will not come together.

Any more than salt in
a salt shaker will clump, as long as it is perfectly dry, as it in
space.

And you know this how?

Get a salt shaker and observe. And there has to be liquid in space
for it not to be dry.

And you are also imagining heat coming from only God knows where.

Well, there is the perfect gas law, which describes very accurately how
the temperature of a gas increases when the pressure is increased or
the
volume is decreased. Indeed, Jupiter is emitting more heat than it
receives from the sun because the gases its made of are contracting
under gravitational pressure.

But there is no pressure with loose particles of dust in space. <sigh

My comment about all this is to point out that when people are faced
with a lack of understanding, they grab upon the first idea which is
convenient. They will not abstain from jumping to conclusions until
the facts finally gloriously produce themselves.

I.E., no one knows how stars form from space dust, and neither do
you.

Yes, they do.

sigh, again> No, they just think that they do. And thinking that they
do
is what is preventing them from knowing the reality of the situation.

If people did not jump to conclusions in this way, we could be on
space ships tomorrow going to the stars.

Well, if you know the secret, then explain it to us.

Until you learn the mechanics of planets orbitting the Sun, and how they
constantly accelerate, it will be close to impossible to explain any of
it
to you.

You will be tripped up by things taught as facts in modern physics.

So, do tell us in your best SWAG, exactly how it all works. What the
hell are you waiting for?
[/quote]
For people to understand orbital mechanics, that>s all.

[quote]
BTW, Einstein was better than most at jumping to conclusions. At
least unlike yourself, Einstein and company of his puppet masters
tried to share and explain some of those conclusions. Whereas your
pathetic excuse is?????

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth[/quote]

Mark Earnest · Guest

"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
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[quote]The Sun IS melting comets, Mark! What do you think creates those
beautiful tails?
[/quote]
Dirty snowballs, that is, ice, would melt super fast as close as they
get to their respective stars.

[quote]
Comets are deep frozen and need a lot of sunlight to melt.
[/quote]
Have you measured the heat of the incinerating inferno Mercury?
Comets would definitely melt.

Some old
[quote]ones have actually lost their dirty snow and become asteroids.

No mysticism needed.

Saul Levy

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:12:44 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Timberwoof" <timberwoof.spam@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote in message
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You mean like comets?

Comets cannot be just dirty snowballs, either, or the Sun would melt them
as they go around it[/quote]

Saul Levy · Guest

If you need a bell, BradBoi, tap on that thorium shell in your head!
lmfjao!

Saul Levy

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:02:16 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
<bradguth@gmail.com> wrote:

[quote]On Jul 24, 7:13 am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Cactus saul Mark was born confused,but how say you on my magnetic moon
dust theory? Bert

And once again, you expect our resident Zionist/Nazi Hitler (aka Saul
Levy) to share anything that>s not fully NASA/Apollo scripted as is?

Have you recently changed your mind about our mostly republican
government run cartels, that which can>t be differentiated from your
local Mafia?

Don>t you ever go back and read through his mainstream status quo
replies to nearly everything you>ve posted? And yet absolutely
nothing rings any bell?

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth[/quote]

Saul Levy · Guest

If BradBoi is the VILLAGE IDIOT and Alexa is an IGNORAMUS, then you
are a LOSER, Mark!

Saul Levy

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:11:36 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote]
"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:rp4h84dhvne5akc9dttskllo4vujj4ptnu@4ax.com...
That apparently is true, Mark! lmao!

Your views are so WEIRD that no one else could have them!

Except when experts like Dr. Kaler say things, you should PAY
ATTENTION! You know NOTHING about star formation, but he does.

Science was built on the shoulders of many people. No one single
person could possibly learn everything all by themselves. There is
too much to learn. By failing to learn from others, you have DOOMED
yourself to FAILURE!

Have a nice life, LOSER!

Loser? Is there some game going on that no one told me about?[/quote]

Saul Levy · Guest

You claim a degree in reality, Mark, not in orbital mechanics. There
is a HUGE GULF in your knowledge.

Saul Levy

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:12:53 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:

>For people to understand orbital mechanics, that>s all.

Saul Levy · Guest

I told you they do melt, Mark.

The closer to the Sun they get, the faster they melt. The SOHO
satellite has watched comets move in very close to the Sun and they
totallly dissipate because nothing is seen of these comets after
perihelion passage. The Sun vaporises them completely.

Saul Levy

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:17:10 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote]"Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:i06h841gupia6a3tmqur9ll4qo47t04uqe@4ax.com...
The Sun IS melting comets, Mark! What do you think creates those
beautiful tails?

Dirty snowballs, that is, ice, would melt super fast as close as they
get to their respective stars.

Comets are deep frozen and need a lot of sunlight to melt.

Have you measured the heat of the incinerating inferno Mercury?
Comets would definitely melt.

Some old
ones have actually lost their dirty snow and become asteroids.

No mysticism needed.

Saul Levy[/quote]

G=EMC^2 Glazier · Guest

Cactus Saul Most comets do not have tails. Its only the ones with
their elongated orbits that take them close to the Sun (highly inclined
to the ecliptic) I think more of the tail structure is in molecules of
gases Some very fine dust etc Water at this sopacetime I pretty much
rule out. Looking at a picture of Tempel 1 helps this thinking best
to keep in mind comets are small objects and some comet tails are 100
million miles long. It would take lots of H20 to create such a tail
Bert

Saul Levy · Guest

Many comets even far out in the Solar System still show a little tail,
BEERTbrain! lmao! All it takes is a BIG telescope or the Hubble.

Doesn>t take much to drive off a tail. Temple 1, as I>ve told you
before, has NO ICE left. So no tail can form.

Saul Levy

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:58:58 -0400, herbertglazier@webtv.net (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:

[quote]Cactus Saul Most comets do not have tails. Its only the ones with
their elongated orbits that take them close to the Sun (highly inclined
to the ecliptic) I think more of the tail structure is in molecules of
gases Some very fine dust etc Water at this sopacetime I pretty much
rule out. Looking at a picture of Tempel 1 helps this thinking best
to keep in mind comets are small objects and some comet tails are 100
million miles long. It would take lots of H20 to create such a tail
Bert[/quote]

G=EMC^2 Glazier · Guest

Cactus Saul Like you said in your post NO ice left. seems the Earth
kept it safe from Sun rays(inferred) under an atmosphere that will not
let water be broken down into its two elements. Rocks that do not have
an atmosphere like Earth have no surface water. This is based on good
science Bert

BradGuth · Guest

On Jul 25, 5:58 am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
[quote]Cactus Saul Most comets do not have tails. Its only the ones with
their elongated orbits that take them close to the Sun (highly inclined
to the ecliptic) I think more of the tail structure is in molecules of
gases Some very fine dust etc Water at this sopacetime I pretty much
rule out. Looking at a picture of Tempel 1 helps this thinking best
to keep in mind comets are small objects and some comet tails are 100
million miles long. It would take lots of H20 to create such a tail
Bert
[/quote]
You>ll never convince the Zionists/Nazis of our DARPA and Usenet that
our nasty Venus like dry and hot Earth wasn>t pulverized by billions
of God>s magic icy comets and monster snowballs of h2o, that somehow
survived the vacuum and energy trauma of space.

I guess the cosmic laws of physics were entirely different way back
then.

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

BradGuth · Guest

On Jul 26, 7:53 am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
[quote]Cactus Saul Like you said in your post NO ice left. seems the Earth
kept it safe from Sun rays(inferred) under an atmosphere that will not
let water be broken down into its two elements. Rocks that do not have
an atmosphere like Earth have no surface water. This is based on good
science Bert
[/quote]
Big rocks without a magnetosphere and a good sized moon or nearby
planet kicking tidal flexing butt, also do not hold their surface
water.

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

Saul Levy · Guest

They measure all the velocities across the entire image, Jeff.

As far out as there is light to register.

Invisible rings can>t be measured.

Saul Levy

On 30 Jul 2008 02:48:35 GMT, Jeff?Relf <Jeff_Relf@Seattle.Invalid>
wrote:

[quote]I bet most of the Milky Way>s mass is in its bright center,
not in some outer, invisible ring.
Likely, cosmologists aren>t correctly measuring orbital speeds.[/quote]

Timberwoof · Guest

In article <Jeff_Relf@Seattle.2008_Jul.29.7pm.48j>,
JeffÅ£Relf <Jeff_Relf@Seattle.Invalid> wrote:

[quote]I bet most of the Milky Way>s mass is in its bright center,
not in some outer, invisible ring.
Likely, cosmologists aren>t correctly measuring orbital speeds.
[/quote]
On what evidence?

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don>t blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.

Jeffâ–²Relf · Guest

I bet most of the Milky Way>s mass is in its bright center,
not in some outer, invisible ring.
Likely, cosmologists aren>t correctly measuring orbital speeds.


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