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jabriol · Guest

Third "Day"

"'Let the waters under the heavens be brought together into one place and
let the dry land appear.' And it came to be so. And God began calling the
dry land Earth, but the bringing together of the waters he called Seas."
(Genesis 1:9, 10) As usual, the account does not describe how this was done.
No doubt, tremendous earth movements would have been involved in the
formation of land areas. Geologists would explain such major upheavals as
catastrophism. But Genesis indicates direction and control by a Creator.

In the Biblical account where God is described as questioning Job about his
knowledge of the earth, a variety of developments concerning earth>s history
are described: its measurements, its cloud masses, its seas and how their
waves were limited by dry land-many things in general about the creation,
spanning long periods of time. Among these things, comparing earth to a
building, the Bible says that God asked Job: "Into what have its socket
pedestals been sunk down, or who laid its cornerstone?"-Job 38:6.

Interestingly, like "socket pedestals," earth>s crust is much thicker under
continents and even more so under mountain ranges, pushing deep into the
underlying mantle, like tree roots into soil. "The idea that mountains and
continents had roots has been tested over and over again, and shown to be
valid," says Putnam>s Geology. Oceanic crust is only about 5 miles thick,
but continental roots go down about 20 miles and mountain roots penetrate
about twice that far. And all earth>s layers press inward upon earth>s core
from all directions, making it like a great "cornerstone" of support.

Whatever means were used to accomplish the raising up of dry land, the
important point is: Both the Bible and science recognize it as one of the
stages in the forming of the earth.

Libertarius · Guest

jabriol wrote:

[quote]Third "Day"

"'Let the waters under the heavens be brought together into one place and
let the dry land appear.' And it came to be so. And God began calling the
dry land Earth, but the bringing together of the waters he called Seas."
(Genesis 1:9, 10) As usual, the account does not describe how this was done.
No doubt, tremendous earth movements would have been involved in the
formation of land areas. Geologists would explain such major upheavals as
catastrophism. But Genesis indicates direction and control by a Creator.

In the Biblical account where God is described as questioning Job about his
knowledge of the earth, a variety of developments concerning earth>s history
are described: its measurements, its cloud masses, its seas and how their
waves were limited by dry land-many things in general about the creation,
spanning long periods of time. Among these things, comparing earth to a
building, the Bible says that God asked Job: "Into what have its socket
pedestals been sunk down, or who laid its cornerstone?"-Job 38:6.

Interestingly, like "socket pedestals," earth>s crust is much thicker under
continents and even more so under mountain ranges, pushing deep into the
underlying mantle, like tree roots into soil. "The idea that mountains and
continents had roots has been tested over and over again, and shown to be
valid," says Putnam>s Geology. Oceanic crust is only about 5 miles thick,
but continental roots go down about 20 miles and mountain roots penetrate
about twice that far. And all earth>s layers press inward upon earth>s core
from all directions, making it like a great "cornerstone" of support.

Whatever means were used to accomplish the raising up of dry land, the
important point is: Both the Bible and science recognize it as one of the
stages in the forming of the earth.
[/quote]
===>The Earth is not a continent. -- L.

jabriol · Guest

"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The_Truth.net> wrote in message
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[quote]

jabriol wrote:

Third "Day"

"'Let the waters under the heavens be brought together into one place
and
let the dry land appear.' And it came to be so. And God began calling
the
dry land Earth, but the bringing together of the waters he called Seas."
(Genesis 1:9, 10) As usual, the account does not describe how this was
done.
No doubt, tremendous earth movements would have been involved in the
formation of land areas. Geologists would explain such major upheavals
as
catastrophism. But Genesis indicates direction and control by a Creator.

In the Biblical account where God is described as questioning Job about
his
knowledge of the earth, a variety of developments concerning earth>s
history
are described: its measurements, its cloud masses, its seas and how
their
waves were limited by dry land-many things in general about the
creation,
spanning long periods of time. Among these things, comparing earth to a
building, the Bible says that God asked Job: "Into what have its socket
pedestals been sunk down, or who laid its cornerstone?"-Job 38:6.

Interestingly, like "socket pedestals," earth>s crust is much thicker
under
continents and even more so under mountain ranges, pushing deep into the
underlying mantle, like tree roots into soil. "The idea that mountains
and
continents had roots has been tested over and over again, and shown to
be
valid," says Putnam>s Geology. Oceanic crust is only about 5 miles
thick,
but continental roots go down about 20 miles and mountain roots
penetrate
about twice that far. And all earth>s layers press inward upon earth>s
core
from all directions, making it like a great "cornerstone" of support.

Whatever means were used to accomplish the raising up of dry land, the
important point is: Both the Bible and science recognize it as one of
the
stages in the forming of the earth.

===>The Earth is not a continent. -- L.

[/quote]
we are talking here about the planet... but even in english... dry land is
also refered to as earth..

R Brown · Guest

"jabriol" <jabriol@sparta.org> wrote in message
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The_Truth.net> wrote in message
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jabriol wrote:

Third "Day"

"'Let the waters under the heavens be brought together into one place
and
let the dry land appear.' And it came to be so. And God began calling
the
dry land Earth, but the bringing together of the waters he called
Seas."
(Genesis 1:9, 10) As usual, the account does not describe how this was
done.
No doubt, tremendous earth movements would have been involved in the
formation of land areas. Geologists would explain such major upheavals
as
catastrophism. But Genesis indicates direction and control by a
Creator.

In the Biblical account where God is described as questioning Job
about
his
knowledge of the earth, a variety of developments concerning earth>s
history
are described: its measurements, its cloud masses, its seas and how
their
waves were limited by dry land-many things in general about the
creation,
spanning long periods of time. Among these things, comparing earth to
a
building, the Bible says that God asked Job: "Into what have its
socket
pedestals been sunk down, or who laid its cornerstone?"-Job 38:6.

Interestingly, like "socket pedestals," earth>s crust is much thicker
under
continents and even more so under mountain ranges, pushing deep into
the
underlying mantle, like tree roots into soil. "The idea that mountains
and
continents had roots has been tested over and over again, and shown to
be
valid," says Putnam>s Geology. Oceanic crust is only about 5 miles
thick,
but continental roots go down about 20 miles and mountain roots
penetrate
about twice that far. And all earth>s layers press inward upon earth>s
core
from all directions, making it like a great "cornerstone" of support.

Whatever means were used to accomplish the raising up of dry land,
the
important point is: Both the Bible and science recognize it as one of
the
stages in the forming of the earth.

===>The Earth is not a continent. -- L.

we are talking here about the planet... but even in english... dry land is
also refered to as earth..

Oh for cryin' out loud! God is making an analogy between his construction of[/quote]
the earth to the construction of a house>s foundation. Like most of the
Bible - it>s alegory and not factual.
As for the crust being thicker under mountains and thiner under the ocean
geologists call it isostacy. My kids learn it in my grade 11 science class.
The thin, brittle crust rides on top of the plastic athenosphere. Like an
ice cube floating in water, the more ice you have above the surface then the
more ice is needed under the surface to provide the buoyancy required.
Weight is obviously a factor; that>s why portions of the north american
plate are still rising: from the retreat of the massive ice sheets
approximately 11,000 years ago.
What a terrible thing fear and ignorance are!!!

John Hattan · Guest

"jabriol" <jabriol@sparta.org> wrote:

[quote]Third "Day"

"'Let the waters under the heavens be brought together into one place and
let the dry land appear.' And it came to be so. And God began calling the
dry land Earth, but the bringing together of the waters he called Seas."
(Genesis 1:9, 10) As usual, the account does not describe how this was done.
No doubt, tremendous earth movements would have been involved in the
formation of land areas. Geologists would explain such major upheavals as
catastrophism. But Genesis indicates direction and control by a Creator.
[/quote]
Problem is, there>s no evidence of it happening that way.

---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com

Dirk Murcray · Guest

"jabriol" <jabriol@sparta.org> wrote in message news:<AmS5b.527233$Bf5.70657@news.easynews.com>...
[quote]Third "Day"

"'Let the waters under the heavens be brought together into one place and
let the dry land appear.' And it came to be so.
[/quote]
Not surprisngly, ancient Hebrew folklore (the Bible) got it wrong from
the get-go. Dry land did not "appear" from the waters, rather it was
the other way around. There were no seas, or any substantial
quantities of liquid water on the earth>s surface for nearly a billion
years. When the oceans did form, two-thirds of the dry land
disappeared.

[quote]And God began calling the
dry land Earth, but the bringing together of the waters he called Seas."
(Genesis 1:9, 10) As usual, the account does not describe how this was done.
No doubt, tremendous earth movements would have been involved in the
formation of land areas.
[/quote]
Wrong again. No crustal movement (beyond localized resurfacing due to
vulcanism) was involved or possible until ocean formation initiated
plate tectonics.

[quote]Geologists would explain such major upheavals as
catastrophism.
[/quote]
Catastrophism has been dead since geology was in its infancy.

[quote]But Genesis indicates direction and control by a Creator.
[/quote]
No sh*t. No news there.

<snip remainder. Since the premise is wrong, all that follows is
obviously irrelevant)

John Ings · Guest

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:29:32 GMT, "R Brown" <brown@hotmail.com> wrote:

[quote]Oh for cryin' out loud! God is making an analogy between his construction of
the earth to the construction of a house>s foundation.
[/quote]
The ancients believed it literally, not allegorically. That>s a
cosmology they learned during their Babylonian captivity; a round,
flat earth with a solid sky dome over it, a dome held up by pillars
resting on a foundation. The construct looked rather like a garden
gazebo.

[quote]Like most of the Bible - it>s alegory and not factual.
[/quote]
Erroneous and not factual.

[quote]What a terrible thing fear and ignorance are!!!
[/quote]
Especially in the form of superstitious religion.

## Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum.

jabriol · Guest

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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The_Truth.net> wrote in message
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jabriol wrote:

Third "Day"

"'Let the waters under the heavens be brought together into one
place
and
let the dry land appear.' And it came to be so. And God began
calling
the
dry land Earth, but the bringing together of the waters he called
Seas."
(Genesis 1:9, 10) As usual, the account does not describe how this
was
done.
No doubt, tremendous earth movements would have been involved in the
formation of land areas. Geologists would explain such major
upheavals
as
catastrophism. But Genesis indicates direction and control by a
Creator.

In the Biblical account where God is described as questioning Job
about
his
knowledge of the earth, a variety of developments concerning earth>s
history
are described: its measurements, its cloud masses, its seas and how
their
waves were limited by dry land-many things in general about the
creation,
spanning long periods of time. Among these things, comparing earth
to
a
building, the Bible says that God asked Job: "Into what have its
socket
pedestals been sunk down, or who laid its cornerstone?"-Job 38:6.

Interestingly, like "socket pedestals," earth>s crust is much
thicker
under
continents and even more so under mountain ranges, pushing deep into
the
underlying mantle, like tree roots into soil. "The idea that
mountains
and
continents had roots has been tested over and over again, and shown
to
be
valid," says Putnam>s Geology. Oceanic crust is only about 5 miles
thick,
but continental roots go down about 20 miles and mountain roots
penetrate
about twice that far. And all earth>s layers press inward upon
earth>s
core
from all directions, making it like a great "cornerstone" of
support.

Whatever means were used to accomplish the raising up of dry land,
the
important point is: Both the Bible and science recognize it as one
of
the
stages in the forming of the earth.

===>The Earth is not a continent. -- L.

we are talking here about the planet... but even in english... dry land
is
also refered to as earth..

Oh for cryin' out loud! God is making an analogy between his construction
of
the earth to the construction of a house>s foundation. Like most of the
Bible - it>s alegory and not factual.
[/quote]

it factual, the explanation is to make it easier from from the human
perception. to indicate that an event occured.
[quote]As for the crust being thicker under mountains and thiner under the ocean
geologists call it isostacy. My kids learn it in my grade 11 science
class.
The thin, brittle crust rides on top of the plastic athenosphere. Like an
ice cube floating in water, the more ice you have above the surface then
the
more ice is needed under the surface to provide the buoyancy required.
Weight is obviously a factor; that>s why portions of the north american
plate are still rising: from the retreat of the massive ice sheets
approximately 11,000 years ago.
What a terrible thing fear and ignorance are!!!

[/quote]

jabriol · Guest

"John Hattan" <john@thecodezone.com> wrote in message
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[quote]"jabriol" <jabriol@sparta.org> wrote:

Third "Day"

"'Let the waters under the heavens be brought together into one place
and
let the dry land appear.' And it came to be so. And God began calling the
dry land Earth, but the bringing together of the waters he called Seas."
(Genesis 1:9, 10) As usual, the account does not describe how this was
done.
No doubt, tremendous earth movements would have been involved in the
formation of land areas. Geologists would explain such major upheavals as
catastrophism. But Genesis indicates direction and control by a Creator.

Problem is, there>s no evidence of it happening that way.
[/quote]
sorta like evolution as the origin of man eh?
..com http://www.shatnerology.com

jabriol · Guest

"Dirk Murcray" <dmurcray@wwcc.cc.wy.us> wrote in message
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[quote]"jabriol" <jabriol@sparta.org> wrote in message
news:<AmS5b.527233$Bf5.70657@news.easynews.com>...
Third "Day"

"'Let the waters under the heavens be brought together into one place
and
let the dry land appear.' And it came to be so.

Not surprisngly, ancient Hebrew folklore (the Bible) got it wrong from
the get-go. Dry land did not "appear" from the waters, rather it was
the other way around. There were no seas, or any substantial
quantities of liquid water on the earth>s surface for nearly a billion
years. When the oceans did form, two-thirds of the dry land
disappeared.
[/quote]

the scripture does not say at what time did God, commence his "construction"
on the planet. As stated in a previous post.

[quote]

And God began calling the
dry land Earth, but the bringing together of the waters he called Seas."
(Genesis 1:9, 10) As usual, the account does not describe how this was
done.
No doubt, tremendous earth movements would have been involved in the
formation of land areas.

Wrong again. No crustal movement (beyond localized resurfacing due to
vulcanism) was involved or possible until ocean formation initiated
plate tectonics.

Geologists would explain such major upheavals as
catastrophism.

Catastrophism has been dead since geology was in its infancy.

But Genesis indicates direction and control by a Creator.

No sh*t. No news there.

snip remainder. Since the premise is wrong, all that follows is
obviously irrelevant)[/quote]

Libertarius · Guest

John Ings wrote:

[quote]On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:29:32 GMT, "R Brown" <brown@hotmail.com> wrote:

Oh for cryin' out loud! God is making an analogy between his construction of
the earth to the construction of a house>s foundation.

The ancients believed it literally, not allegorically. That>s a
cosmology they learned during their Babylonian captivity; a round,
flat earth with a solid sky dome over it, a dome held up by pillars
resting on a foundation. The construct looked rather like a garden
gazebo.
[/quote]
===>Biblicists will forever try to blame their primitive cosmology on
"God". Why not admit it was written as imagined by pre-scientific
writers? -- L.

Libertarius · Guest

jabriol wrote:

[quote]"John Hattan" <john@thecodezone.com> wrote in message
news:uv3hlvkn3vnn7cuh241jrrh3tfdjbfn6s2@4ax.com...
"jabriol" <jabriol@sparta.org> wrote:

Third "Day"

"'Let the waters under the heavens be brought together into one place
and
let the dry land appear.' And it came to be so. And God began calling the
dry land Earth, but the bringing together of the waters he called Seas."
(Genesis 1:9, 10) As usual, the account does not describe how this was
done.
No doubt, tremendous earth movements would have been involved in the
formation of land areas. Geologists would explain such major upheavals as
catastrophism. But Genesis indicates direction and control by a Creator.

Problem is, there>s no evidence of it happening that way.

sorta like evolution as the origin of man eh?
[/quote]
===>You don>t understand evolution, but from what you think of it,
at least you admit there is no evidence for that fable in the Bible.
That is progress! -- L.

jabriol · Guest

"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The_Truth.net> wrote in message
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[quote]

jabriol wrote:

"John Hattan" <john@thecodezone.com> wrote in message
news:uv3hlvkn3vnn7cuh241jrrh3tfdjbfn6s2@4ax.com...
"jabriol" <jabriol@sparta.org> wrote:

Third "Day"

"'Let the waters under the heavens be brought together into one
place
and
let the dry land appear.' And it came to be so. And God began calling
the
dry land Earth, but the bringing together of the waters he called
Seas."
(Genesis 1:9, 10) As usual, the account does not describe how this
was
done.
No doubt, tremendous earth movements would have been involved in the
formation of land areas. Geologists would explain such major
upheavals as
catastrophism. But Genesis indicates direction and control by a
Creator.

Problem is, there>s no evidence of it happening that way.

sorta like evolution as the origin of man eh?

===>You don>t understand evolution, but from what you think of it,
at least you admit there is no evidence for that fable in the Bible.
That is progress! -- L.

[/quote]
oh, I understand it well....

I doubt that you do..

here is the question I call the Buddika colosal hole:

Does evolution as the origin of man pass the scientific method...?
everyone evade this as the plague

=^..^= · Guest

"jabriol" <jabriol@sparta.org> wrote in message
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The_Truth.net> wrote in message
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===================[/quote]
No matter what you answer Jabber>s is now claiming most of his posts are
FORGERIES and he>s NUKED most off Google. Just to let you all know his new
slimy game here on Usenet.

Larry Keebler

Varicose Brain · Guest

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:21:55 GMT, "jabriol" <jabriol@sparta.org>
wrote:

[quote]Problem is, there>s no evidence of it happening that way.

sorta like evolution as the origin of man eh?
[/quote]
Jaberiol, somebody ought to f ck you in the ear to give you some
brains.


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