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dedanoe · Guest

if distance over ellapsed time is some (average or instant) velocity
(speed=|velocity|) then what is the ratio of position over moment of
time measured in m/s? in that context just like space = (r_x, r_y,
r_z) has three dimensions so time = (t_x, t_y, t_z) must have three
dims. and since |rt'-r>t|=0 or the closer i am to the observer than
you the more synhronized my clock is with the observer>s one (no 'c'
ever needed) than yours thereby

|r_c| |r r'| |a|
| | = | | x | |
|t_c| |t t'| |b|

r|t'|+r'|t|=r_c(|t|+|t'|) and t|r'|+t'|r|=t_c(|r|+|r'|)

with such r_c and t_c, |r_c|^2+|t_c|^2=minimum. any one can be
observer but only one is extreme and most accurate. if |rt'-r>t|=0
then certainly |r_c|^2+|t_c|^2=0 for any a and b.

Immortalist · Guest

On Oct 17, 8:45 pm, dedanoe <deda...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]if distance over ellapsed time is some (average or instant) velocity
(speed=|velocity|) then what is the ratio of position over moment of
time measured in m/s? in that context just like space = (r_x, r_y,
r_z) has three dimensions so time = (t_x, t_y, t_z) must have three
dims. and since |rt'-r>t|=0 or the closer i am to the observer than
you the more synhronized my clock is with the observer>s one (no 'c'
ever needed) than yours thereby

|r_c| |r r'| |a|
| | = | | x | |
|t_c| |t t'| |b|

r|t'|+r'|t|=r_c(|t|+|t'|) and t|r'|+t'|r|=t_c(|r|+|r'|)

with such r_c and t_c, |r_c|^2+|t_c|^2=minimum. any one can be
observer but only one is extreme and most accurate. if |rt'-r>t|=0
then certainly |r_c|^2+|t_c|^2=0 for any a and b.
[/quote]
But if the basic dimensions in space are height, width and length and
time is another dimension then what dimensions would it have in it? Is
this like string theory where there are compact dimensions or are you
confusing the "representation" of sense data in the brain as some sort
of world with dimensions in each observer. Or are you saying something
based on these clocks?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension

dedanoe · Guest

On Oct 18, 5:56 am, Immortalist <reanimater_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 17, 8:45 pm, dedanoe <deda...@gmail.com> wrote:

if distance over ellapsed time is some (average or instant) velocity
(speed=|velocity|) then what is the ratio of position over moment of
time measured in m/s? in that context just like space = (r_x, r_y,
r_z) has three dimensions so time = (t_x, t_y, t_z) must have three
dims. and since |rt'-r>t|=0 or the closer i am to the observer than
you the more synhronized my clock is with the observer>s one (no 'c'
ever needed) than yours thereby

|r_c| |r r'| |a|
| | = | | x | |
|t_c| |t t'| |b|

r|t'|+r'|t|=r_c(|t|+|t'|) and t|r'|+t'|r|=t_c(|r|+|r'|)

with such r_c and t_c, |r_c|^2+|t_c|^2=minimum. any one can be
observer but only one is extreme and most accurate. if |rt'-r>t|=0
then certainly |r_c|^2+|t_c|^2=0 for any a and b.

But if the basic dimensions in space are height, width and length and
time is another dimension then what dimensions would it have in it? Is
this like string theory where there are compact dimensions or are you
confusing the "representation" of sense data in the brain as some sort
of world with dimensions in each observer. Or are you saying something
based on these clocks?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension- Hide quoted text -

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[/quote]
how do you percieve space in SRT>s sense? you as the observer must
send light signal to some object and when it reflects back you get the
notion of how distant it is by appliying half c times the latency of
the signal measured with your clock, so:
2(x - x') = c (t' - t) <=> (2x' = -ct' and 2x = -ct) <=> |xt' - x>t| 0
|x x'|
<=> | | = 0
|t t'|
here all four must be of same dim cause with x <> y <> z the signal
will have different t_x, t_y, t_z latency.

dedanoe · Guest

in the system of equations (2x = -ct and 2x' = -ct'), c is already an
absolute value and so if time is absolute as well then x could never
be vector (three or any dimensional). for every position there is
unique time instance and c=const establishes that equivalence/
proportion.

the equation:

|r_c/m| |cos(h) sin(-h)| |r/m r'/m| |a|
| | = | | x | | x | |
|t_c/s| |sin(h) cos(-h)| |t/s t'/s| |b|

eliminates the use of velocities.

Y.Porat · Guest

On Oct 18, 5:45 am, dedanoe <deda...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]if distance over ellapsed time is some (average or instant) velocity
(speed=|velocity|) then what is the ratio of position over moment of
time measured in m/s? in that context just like space = (r_x, r_y,
r_z) has three dimensions so time = (t_x, t_y, t_z) must have three
dims. and since |rt'-r>t|=0 or the closer i am to the observer than
you the more synhronized my clock is with the observer>s one (no 'c'
ever needed) than yours thereby

|r_c| |r r'| |a|
| | = | | x | |
|t_c| |t t'| |b|

r|t'|+r'|t|=r_c(|t|+|t'|) and t|r'|+t'|r|=t_c(|r|+|r'|)

with such r_c and t_c, |r_c|^2+|t_c|^2=minimum. any one can be
observer but only one is extreme and most accurate. if |rt'-r>t|=0
then certainly |r_c|^2+|t_c|^2=0 for any a and b.
[/quote]
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your love is also 4 dimensional

Y.P
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Uncle Al · Guest

dedanoe wrote:
[snip crap]

1) "Number of the Beast," Heinlein, 1980.
2) idiot

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