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 Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: THE WORLD NEEDS COLD FUSION |
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There is really only one major problem with cold fusion with
electrolysis methods - its inconsistent. Not so much inconsistent from
configuration but it SEEMS to be from location-to-location or person-
to-person. That is, one team or individual at location A can achieve
amazing results while another person/group at location B gets nothing
with the exact same experiment. So you get these camps - some are
making gold and what not at low energies (like less than 1000W!!), for
example, and have no problems and those who have absolutely no luck at
all. No one understands why this is and is pretty much the main reason
why large companies aren>t investing everything into it (many ARE
investing huge amounts right now).
Its been known for sometime that UV, x-rays and gamma rays can induce
electron K-capture in common stable isotopes (not all just a select
group). This typically causes a temporary transmutation which also
typically resolve back to the starting conditions after a small amount
of time (usually within seconds). The energy released afterwards for
most elements somehow exceeds that put into the system! There is an
unfortunate energy conversion issue after the transmuted matter decays
(how can you convert decay elements like x-rays and beta emissions
into useable electricity with high efficiency?). It is uncertain where
the extra energy comes from and rarely discussed in american academia
(i know i>m a physicist). Such reactions can be "focused" by
dispersing the target elements spatially or otherwise to increase
cross-sectional probability of photon/compton interaction (which
varies wildly among various elements & excitation methods) and
applying a strong co-linear electric & magnetic field along with the
excitation photons (co-linear meaning the magnetic and electric field
lines point in the SAME direction). Collecting the excess is energy is
a **b*tch** to say the least and quite dangerous as well.
Check this out: http://jlnlabs.online.fr/vsg/index.htm. This is some
very preliminary tests done to outline these effects. Of course, more
rigorous testing needs done but it does look promising. Not for
newbies!!!!
There are also the works of Louis Kervran, who almost got the nobel
prize. Check it out but the issue was the same - some got results,
MOST did NOT.
So there you have it in a nutshell. Just like many alchemists of old
used to write, transmutation, cold fusion and such seems to somehow be
a PERSONAL JOURNEY simply because we don>t understand these unseen
factors at play.
Good Luck!!! Try not to go crazy.... |
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Mark Thorson
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: THE WORLD NEEDS COLD FUSION |
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Richard Schultz wrote:
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In sci.chem Mark Thorson <nospam@sonic.net> wrote:
:> I>d also like to see your evidence that I am a "paid agent" of anyone.
: Yeah, everybody knows you consult for the oil companies.
: When you>re not doing the dirty work for Big Pharma, of course. :-)
You>d think that with all the money that I>m raking in acting as a paid
agent for so many different forces of evil, I wouldn>t have to work for a
living. . .
[/quote]
Being a college professor is a perfect cover for
an arch-villain with access to unlimited funds.
Nobody would ever suspect. |
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:41 am Post subject: Re: THE WORLD NEEDS COLD FUSION |
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parlous2112@gmail.com wrote:
[quote]There is really only one major problem with cold fusion with
electrolysis methods - its inconsistent. Not so much inconsistent from
configuration but it SEEMS to be from location-to-location or person-
to-person. That is, one team or individual at location A can achieve
amazing results while another person/group at location B gets nothing
with the exact same experiment. So you get these camps - some are
making gold and what not at low energies (like less than 1000W!!), for
example, and have no problems and those who have absolutely no luck at
all. No one understands why this is and is pretty much the main reason
why large companies aren>t investing everything into it (many ARE
investing huge amounts right now).
Its been known for sometime that UV, x-rays and gamma rays can induce
electron K-capture in common stable isotopes (not all just a select
group). This typically causes a temporary transmutation which also
typically resolve back to the starting conditions after a small amount
of time (usually within seconds). The energy released afterwards for
most elements somehow exceeds that put into the system! There is an
unfortunate energy conversion issue after the transmuted matter decays
(how can you convert decay elements like x-rays and beta emissions
into useable electricity with high efficiency?). It is uncertain where
the extra energy comes from and rarely discussed in american academia
(i know i>m a physicist). Such reactions can be "focused" by
dispersing the target elements spatially or otherwise to increase
cross-sectional probability of photon/compton interaction (which
varies wildly among various elements & excitation methods) and
applying a strong co-linear electric & magnetic field along with the
excitation photons (co-linear meaning the magnetic and electric field
lines point in the SAME direction). Collecting the excess is energy is
a **b*tch** to say the least and quite dangerous as well.
Check this out: http://jlnlabs.online.fr/vsg/index.htm. This is some
very preliminary tests done to outline these effects. Of course, more
rigorous testing needs done but it does look promising. Not for
newbies!!!!
There are also the works of Louis Kervran, who almost got the nobel
prize. Check it out but the issue was the same - some got results,
MOST did NOT.
So there you have it in a nutshell. Just like many alchemists of old
used to write, transmutation, cold fusion and such seems to somehow be
a PERSONAL JOURNEY simply because we don>t understand these unseen
factors at play.
Good Luck!!! Try not to go crazy....
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I really like the work Naudin does. It>s good to know that someone
somewhere is actually testing all of these wayout ideas and inventions.
--
Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
Remote Viewing classes in London |
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Richard Schultz
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: Re: THE WORLD NEEDS COLD FUSION |
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In sci.chem Mark Thorson <nospam@sonic.net> wrote:
: Being a college professor is a perfect cover for
: an arch-villain with access to unlimited funds.
: Nobody would ever suspect.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29346
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Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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"an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience" |
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number6
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: THE WORLD NEEDS COLD FUSION |
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On Jul 25, 4:30 am, schu...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote:
[quote]In sci.chem Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
: Being a college professor is a perfect cover for
: an arch-villain with access to unlimited funds.
: Nobody would ever suspect.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29346
[/quote]
Hah ... it never will work ... Got everything right except ... he>s
using the wrong isotope of destructonium ...what a buffoon ... |
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Mark Thorson
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: THE WORLD NEEDS COLD FUSION |
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number6 wrote:
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On Jul 25, 4:30 am, schu...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote:
In sci.chem Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
: Being a college professor is a perfect cover for
: an arch-villain with access to unlimited funds.
: Nobody would ever suspect.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29346
Hah ... it never will work ... Got everything right except ... he>s
using the wrong isotope of destructonium ...what a buffoon ...
[/quote]
And notice the Mark V E-meter in the foreground.
The current version is the Quantum Super Mark VII,
and the Mark VIII is about to be introduced.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-meter |
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Salmon Egg
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:40 am Post subject: Re: THE WORLD NEEDS COLD FUSION |
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So the world needs more love and beggars need horses, How does that
conform with reality?
Bill |
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zzbunker@netscape.net
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:28 am Post subject: Re: THE WORLD NEEDS COLD FUSION |
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On Jul 22, 6:12 pm, "g...@rock.com" <good...@rock.com> wrote:
[quote]We can make energy out of matter, and matter out of energy. With cold
fusion, we will unlock the power of the atom, and the world will have
infinite energy and be able to create matter out of energy and thus
infinite wealth.
Cold fusion is for real. Just like the light bulb it may take many
attempts to get it right.
Thomas Edison failed more than 1,000 times when trying to create the
light bulb. When asked about it, Edison allegedly said, "I have not
failed 1,000 times. I have successfully discovered 1,000 ways to NOT
make a light bulb." He then succeeded, and now the world has light.
Cold fusion is for real.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion
From Wired Magazine "What If Cold Fusion Is Real?"
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.11/coldfusion_pr.html
"That>s what makes cold fusion so nonreproducible," says Storms. "You
have to load the palladium with very high concentrations [of
deuterium], and many samples simply won>t tolerate it."
"Heat has practical applications," concedes McKubre, "but what am I
supposed to do with the ability to turn expensive elements into cheap
ones?"
This, finally, is his explanation for many negative results. There>s
still a snag, though. Just because he knows how to select good
palladium, doesn>t mean he knows how to make it. "Pons and Fleischmann
used to test samples from a supplier, Johnson Matthey, and over the
years they figured out how to create palladium that worked most of the
time. But Johnson Matthey signed a nondisclosure agreement with
Technova, the Toyota-supported group that financed the research in
France. The Japanese thought cold fusion would be hugely successful,
and therefore everyone would want this certain type of palladium, and
they>d clean up."
Of course, it never happened. Technova abandoned cold fusion. But
according to Storms the nondisclosure agreement still exists, and
Johnson Matthey is still bound by it. (A spokesperson at Johnson
Matthey would not confirm that an agreement exists.)
"Someone should buy it from Technova," I suggest.
Storms laughs. "Why should they? It>s worthless! You can>t make any
money from cold fusion - at least, not using the Pons-Fleischmann
method."
And so, at this point, Storms is stymied. He shows me a paper he has
written, with a grim cover letter: "Ironically, it is now possible to
know why we failed but it is too late to follow a more successful
path ... Without access to widely circulated journals, this negative
attitude within the scientific community obviously cannot be changed.
Even overwhelming proof, as demanded by many scientists in the past,
can have no effect because no mechanism exists for it to be
communicated to the scientific professions."
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Well, but that>s also why the people with energy brains moved onto
Solar Enegy,
PV Cells, Wind Energy, A.I++++., Lasers, Satellites, DVD,
Microcomputers,
Ebooks, Holograms, Robots, and Cruise Missiles.
Rather than being pestered with the Journal wanks.of Science. |
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terryc
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: THE WORLD NEEDS COLD FUSION |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:12:49 -0700, good@rock.com wrote:
[quote]Thomas Edison failed more than 1,000 times when trying to create the
light bulb.
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Edison did not create the light bulb. |
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Richard Schultz
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:55 am Post subject: Re: THE WORLD NEEDS COLD FUSION |
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In sci.chem Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
: So the world needs more love
It>s the only thing that there>s just too little of.
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Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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"an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience" |
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hanson
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: Re: THE WORLD NEEDS COLD FUSION |
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"Richard Schultz" <schultr@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote in message
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[quote]
Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:[/quote]
So the world needs more love
[quote]
"Richard Schultz" <schultr@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote[/quote]
It>s the only thing that there>s just too little of.
[quote]
hanson wrote:[/quote]
.... yeah, but love FOR WHAT?
Be careful what you wish for...
ahahaha... ahahahahanson |
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Androcles
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: THE WORLD NEEDS COLD FUSION |
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| Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
| So the world needs more love
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| "Richard Schultz" <schultr@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote
| It>s the only thing that there>s just too little of.
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| hanson wrote:
| ... yeah, but love FOR WHAT?
| Be careful what you wish for...
| ahahaha... ahahahahanson
I have none for Dork Bruere of Newpeace, he promised me a
"Nobel Prize" and now he>s welching on the deal.
Why did Einstein say
the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
the "time" each way is the same?
According to Dork Bruere
"I don>t give a damn what Einstein wrote."
Those grapes I can>t reach must be sour, I don>t want them. |
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