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Shirley · Guest

Have you ever heard of medical insurance and HIPPA? Most medical
professionals keep all kinds of stuff "under their hat" and only
inform when they should or must.
" Dan" <dcxdanATpeoplepcDOTcom> wrote in message news:<vg268s968bqjd8@corp.supernews.com>...
[quote]Well ... of course. With the way things are with medical insurances, it is
better NOT to do anything. Doctor>s wait until things really get obvious,
then they move their butts and do things. Who worries about finding a
disease when it can be cured earlier, let>s wait till things are really bad.

"JWissmille" <jwissmille@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030629184444.23266.00001377@mb-m26.aol.com...
I don>t think thisis the case anymore????

georgia

".....Whatever, in connection with my
professional practice or not, in connection with it, I see or hear, in
the life of men, which ought not to be spoken of abroad, I will not
divulge, as reckoning that all such should be kept secret...."

400 BC

THE OATH

by Hippocrates

Translated by Francis Adams

Electronically Enhanced Text (c) Copyright 1996, World Library(R)

THE OATH
-
I SWEAR by Apollo the physician, and Aesculapius, and Health, and
All-heal, and all the gods and goddesses, that, according to my
ability and judgment, I will keep this Oath and this stipulation- to
reckon him who taught me this Art equally dear to me as my parents, to
share my substance with him, and relieve his necessities if
required; to look upon his offspring in the same footing as my own
brothers, and to teach them this art, if they shall wish to learn
it, without fee or stipulation; and that by precept, lecture, and
every other mode of instruction, I will impart a knowledge of the Art
to my own sons, and those of my teachers, and to disciples bound by
a stipulation and oath according to the law of medicine, but to none
others. I will follow that system of regimen which, according to my
ability and judgment, I consider for the benefit of my patients, and
abstain from whatever is deleterious and mischievous. I will give no
deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest any such counsel; and
in like manner I will not give to a woman a pessary to produce
abortion. With purity and with holiness I will pass my life and
practice my Art. I will not cut persons laboring under the stone,
but will leave this to be done by men who are practitioners of this
work. Into whatever houses I enter, I will go into them for the
benefit of the sick, and will abstain from every voluntary act of
mischief and corruption; and, further from the seduction of females or
males, of freemen and slaves. Whatever, in connection with my
professional practice or not, in connection with it, I see or hear, in
the life of men, which ought not to be spoken of abroad, I will not
divulge, as reckoning that all such should be kept secret. While I
continue to keep this Oath unviolated, may it be granted to me to
enjoy life and the practice of the art, respected by all men, in all
times! But should I trespass and violate this Oath, may the reverse be
my lot!
-
-
THE END

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Electronically Enhanced Text (c) Copyright World Library Inc. 1991-1999
[/quote]

Kara Tyson · Guest

Ticks carry many disease. Swollen lymph nodes could indicate that you
have been infected with Bartonella h. Testing for Lyme is really hit
and miss but the testing for Bartonella is pretty straight forward.

But it couldnt hurt to see a Dr. who treats tick diseases. You can
find one by going to http://www.lymenet.org and posting under Flash
Discussions.

Kara Tyson
Lyme Disease Support Group of AL

Chuck P Adams · Guest

[quote]From: joebur@jersey.net (Josh)
Date: 7/1/2003 9:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time

Vitamin C has been found to improve blood-brain barrier penetration of
medicines--- A valid scientific study that can be reviewed at the
medscape website... josh
[/quote]
Thats a bunch of Bull..

Rita Stanley · Guest

See a doctor. Could be, at least, a localized infection. I>d want to have
someone check it out.

Rita

"SAWICA" <sawica@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030630164734.11524.00001320@mb-m13.aol.com...
[quote]I had a very small tic on the back of my head, it had not been there long
as I
was able to remove it easily. after a couple of days I now have a large
bump
at the area that itches and ozzes some, and also hurts (with a burning
like
sensation) Just below that area I have a large tender occipital node it
is
swollen and very tender to the touch. Since the bite is on my head it is
had to
see if there is any rash or ring. Could this be just a reach to the bite
itself
and nothing to worry about. Thanks for any feed back.

Mary[/quote]

JOPN · Guest

[quote]"Frank Andreas de Groot" nospam@nospam.org
[/quote]
wrote:

[quote]Dr. Joe Burrascano>s treatment guidelines mention 400 to 600 mg/day, but
microbiologists say up to 1000 mg/day would be better.
[/quote]

Once again Frank - what the F are you talking about!!!!!!!

Please Show any data that over 200mg a day for uncomplicated EM is needed - you
are way out there without any published support.

John N

JOPN · Guest

[quote]"Frank Andreas de Groot" nospam@no
[/quote]
wrote:

[quote]This one mentions 600 mg/day for Lyme:

http://www.lymenet.de/symptoms/cycles/statistics.htm
"42 days doxycycline per orem (3 times 0.2 g per day)"

[/quote]

And where exactlty was that published
I could write something on the internet saying you should tale 50000mg day of
doxy - but that means nothing - as do most of your post

John N

Peace · Guest

I infuse 500mg of IV doxycycline in 500mL saline over 3 hours every day.
Massive neurological herxheimers. I had to skip yesterday because of
severe head pressure with pain along with vomiting / dry heaves. I do
not get as severe herxheimer at all unless I take the oral rifampin (at
least 300mg) with it however. Just to add my report to your report. :)
My weekly lab testing has shown no ill effects of this treatment so far.

Jen :)

Frank Andreas de Groot wrote:
[quote]Hi,

I was intrigued by reports of recent advice of an LLMD (I forgot the name, but the source of an idea is never relevant)
to take a single, high dose of doxy per day.

I have been doing this for a few days, with no gastrointestinal upsets, but I noticed a marked increase in photosensitivity of the
skin (and possibly eyes). I also noticed a slight "herx" effect, but not significant enough to be sure that it iscaused by the
changed regimen.

I can think of several benefits:

- You only take pills once
- when you take acidophillus about 16 hrs after you took the doxy, there is a greater chance it will "take hold".
- The tissue levels, due to the extreme "spike", will reach MIC at least for a few hours, in the brain, and possibly reach
spiroCIDAL levels in some tissues.

Disadvantages:

- May be a greater strain on the liver/kidneys
- May have greater photosensitivity effect
- May cause increased gastrointestinal irritation

[/quote]

Chuck P Adams · Guest

[quote]From: jopn@aol.com (JOPN)
Date: 7/1/2003 9:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time

Please Show any data that over 200mg a day for uncomplicated EM is needed -
you
are way out there without any published support.
[/quote]
These fools buy there drugs online and try and kill themselves.

Susan Fein · Guest

x-no-archive: yes

In article <20030701211809.09109.00001951@mb-m21.aol.com>, jopn@aol.com (JOPN)
writes:

[quote]And where exactlty was that published
I could write something on the internet saying you should tale 50000mg day
of
doxy - but that means nothing - as do most of your post
[/quote]
While that>s true of Frank and his wildass posts, I see no reason nor
literature that would lead me to conclude that the 200mg is a magic number that
will prevent future sequelae which might later be written off as "non-specific
and vague", those terms used to blow off genuinely ill folks routinely. Even
my blown up knee was written off during my FUO for most of 1983, because I
seemed to also be stressed out.

Anecdotally, after many years of the above, and, finally, totally disabling
illness labeled CFS, 200 mg per day of doxy made a dent in my dizziness, but
nothing more. 400 mg per day caused what appears to have been a die off
reaction, followed by improvements in my longstanding illness. Even cognitive
stuff improved, in that I no longer got lost in my own neighborhood while
driving, but it never got all the way better.

I>ve never seen evidence showing IV superior to orals, nor for 200 mg being
anything other than a number some numbnut pulled out of his, uh, hat.

Susan

Susan Fein · Guest

x-no-archive: yes

In article <BrqMa.60038$2D1.20364864@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Peace
<peace_4_you*nospam*@yahoo.com> writes:

[quote]
I infuse 500mg of IV doxycycline in 500mL saline over 3 hours every day.
Massive neurological herxheimers. I had to skip yesterday because of
severe head pressure with pain along with vomiting / dry heaves. I do
not get as severe herxheimer at all unless I take the oral rifampin (at
least 300mg) with it however. Just to add my report to your report. :)
My weekly lab testing has shown no ill effects of this treatment so far.

Jen :)
[/quote]
I>m not trying to give you a hard time here, but the doc who treated my child
for Lyme would suggest that it>s hard to say if you>re having a die off
reaction, based upon your description, or an adverse reaction to the meds,
especially if it keeps happening.

Susan

Chuck P Adams · Guest

[quote]From: sufein@aol.comnospam (Susan Fein)
Date: 7/1/2003 10:26 PM Eastern

While that>s true of Frank and his wildass posts, I see no reason nor
literature that would lead me to conclude that the 200mg is a magic number
that
will prevent future sequelae which might later be written off as
"non-specific
and vague", those terms used to blow off genuinely ill folks routinely. Even
my blown up knee was written off during my FUO for most of 1983, because I
seemed to also be stressed out.

Anecdotally, after many years of the above, and, finally, totally disabling
illness labeled CFS, 200 mg per day of doxy made a dent in my dizziness, but
nothing more. 400 mg per day caused what appears to have been a die off
reaction, followed by improvements in my longstanding illness. Even
cognitive
stuff improved, in that I no longer got lost in my own neighborhood while
driving, but it never got all the way better.

I>ve never seen evidence showing IV superior to orals, nor for 200 mg being
anything other than a number some numbnut pulled out of his, uh, hat.

Susan
[/quote]
archived.

Chuck P Adams · Guest

[quote]From: sufein@aol.comnospam (Susan Fein)
Date: 7/1/2003 10:29 PM Eastern

I>m not trying to give you a hard time here, but the doc who treated my child
for Lyme would suggest that it>s hard to say if you>re having a die off
reaction, based upon your description, or an adverse reaction to the meds,
especially if it keeps happening.

Susan

[/quote]
archived

Frank Andreas de Groot · Guest

"Susan Fein" <sufein@aol.comnospam> wrote in message news:20030701222953.04207.00001261@mb-m01.aol.com...
[quote]
I>m not trying to give you a hard time here, but the doc who treated my child
for Lyme would suggest that it>s hard to say if you>re having a die off
reaction, based upon your description, or an adverse reaction to the meds,
especially if it keeps happening.
[/quote]
If you really believe this quack, why don>t you allow search engines to archive this post of yours?
She describes a typical neuro-herx. I had the same in the first half year of treatment.
The sx. she describes are not typical as a doxy "side effect", especially not when taken IV.

Frank Andreas de Groot · Guest

"JOPN" <jopn@aol.com> wrote in message news:20030701211501.09109.00001949@mb-m21.aol.com...

[quote]Please Show any data that over 200mg a day for uncomplicated EM is needed - you
are way out there without any published support.
[/quote]
You little clueless troll, the regulars here all know that there is no such thing as "simple uncomplicated E.M.".
Withing HOURS, the spirochete is detectable in the CNS.
The fact that it does not always get entrenched is more due to the immune system than to the 200 mg/day.


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