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Trond Engen · Guest

Peter T. Daniels skreiv:

[quote]Another thing you know nothing of: Mesoptamian astrology.

(Which had nothing to do with Mesopotamian astronomy.)
[/quote]
Many years ago, a nice spring evening in Stavanger, I sat on a bench
reading, when from the shrubbery behind me I suddenly heard what
appeared to be the leader of a patrol of girl guides instructing her
proselytes:

"No, no. You should never mix astrology and astronomy. One is a science,
the other is pure fantasy ... Me, I believe in astrology."

--
Trond Engen
- on a benchmark experience

Adam Funk · Guest

On 2008-11-19, Franz Gnaedinger wrote:

[quote]the most elaborate one so far is found near the begin
of this here thread: Magdalenian BIR versus PIE *bher-,
English bear as the furry one, provider of the best fur,
thick, longhaired, soft and warm, vs. bear as the brown
one. People killrate my messages, while nobody can
disprove my etymology of bear, nor provide new and
better etymology for the PIE etymology. And so I feel
entitled to go on with my work. The more so as my
new work - the series of messages posted yesterday,
developed for several weeks in another thread -
reveals that BIR has an unexpected cosmological
component opening a new window on a far bygone
past.
[/quote]
I saw this somewhere else by chance and thought it might be of
interest to you.

http://www.ancientmusic.co.uk/bear_tribe/

Midwinter Bear Feast

20th December 2008 at the Cranborne Ancient Technology Centre

One of Mankind>s oldest spiritual impulses is Arctolatry, The
Worship of the Bear. When we first came to the northern forests Bear
taught us to find food. When we starved in the depths of winter the
flesh of the bear sustained us. Teacher and Saviour, his corpse
alarmingly man-like when stripped of its warm fur, mystery and taboo
surrounded the animal whose name must not be spoken. A child of the
Sky God, lowered from on high on a golden chain, he is guest of
honour at his own funeral feast. With thanks and messages for his
Father his spirit is sent back to Heaven that he may return and feed
us again in our need time.

--
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of
the American public. [Mencken]

Franz Gnaedinger · Guest

On Nov 20, 4:15 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:

(...)

You are done as dictator of sci.lang.
Your successor, waiting to take over,
pawing the ground, braying, is a caricature
of you. He doesn>t like you but admires your
power games and emulates your posting
style, which is pathetic, as he got only a tiny
fraction of your knowledge about linguistics.
He can>t replace you and achieve what you
did. I wished you could abandon your power
games and go on with your good work. Alas,
I hope in vain and am left with my second
wish: that you kept away from me and took
that onager of a crown prince with you.

Franz Gnaedinger · Guest

On Nov 20, 10:47 pm, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
[quote]
I saw this somewhere else by chance and thought it might be of
interest to you.

http://www.ancientmusic.co.uk/bear_tribe/

Midwinter Bear Feast

20th December 2008 at the Cranborne Ancient Technology Centre

One of Mankind>s oldest spiritual impulses is Arctolatry, The
Worship of the Bear. When we first came to the northern forests Bear
taught us to find food. When we starved in the depths of winter the
flesh of the bear sustained us. Teacher and Saviour, his corpse
alarmingly man-like when stripped of its warm fur, mystery and taboo
surrounded the animal whose name must not be spoken. A child of the
Sky God, lowered from on high on a golden chain, he is guest of
honour at his own funeral feast. With thanks and messages for his
Father his spirit is sent back to Heaven that he may return and feed
us again in our need time.
[/quote]
Thank you for the link and quote. Worship of bears
is well known from the Paleolithic onward. A bear
skull was found in the Chauvet cave, and this cave
was closed by a falling boulder some 28,000 years
ago, the bear skull was in all probabilty deposited
on purpose. And we have evidence that bear skulls
were deliberately deposited in other caves, on
pedestals, and they symbolized the heavenely vault
(Marie E.P. König). Bears have a lot in common
with humans, they stand up on their hind legs,
and they are very sly, and curious too, and very
strong, a bear has the power of a dozen men.
Female bears are devoted mothers. They are the
kings of the forests, and always raised admiration
and fear in equal measures. And they provided
the best fur, thick, longhaired, soft and warm.
In Switzerland we have a region where village
names indicate former bear hunting, and I assume
that also Middle England (if there is such a term)
was a bear hunting zone. Birmingham has hundred
names, could it go back to Magdalenian BIR MAN
for those who handle (man) fur (bir)? Shakespeare
is from that region, he speaks of a bearing cloth
in The Winter>s Tale, Act 3 Scene 3, a rich cloth
in which a newborn was carried to be christened.
And, strangely, a bear is playing a crucial role
in that scene. As if the bearing cloth of a former
pagan time was a bear fur, and the bear is taking
revenge for all the fur that was stolen from him and
her. I guess there was a still vivid tradition of stories
and legends regarding bears in the youth of the bard,
and the revival of bear rituals you are reporting
may testify to this assumption of mine. Thank you.

Guest

On Nov 21, 8:24 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
I assume
[quote]that also Middle England (if there is such a term)
was a bear hunting zone.
[/quote]
There are no wild bears in England and haven>t been for ages, if at
all. Bears have been imported for bear-baiting though, from places
such as Lithuania. Bear-baiting was a popular blood sport in England
for centuries.

Birmingham has hundred
[quote]names, could it go back to Magdalenian BIR MAN
for those who handle (man) fur (bir)?
[/quote]
No, it couldn>t, because Magdalenian is a fiction concocted by Franz
Gnaedinger.

Franz Gnaedinger · Guest

From the Ice Age to the Bible (postscript)

The eastern central pillar of temple D, Göbekli
Tepe, 11 600 - 9 500 BP, represents the powerful
triple goddess of old, and the hieroglyphic inscription
)OG BIR AC CA as origin of Genesis 1:1 testifies
to the high age of the Jewish tradition. ) and )OG
became El and Elohim of the Jews, Allah of the
Muslims, logos of the Greeks, logic and reason
of the atheists and agnostics and pantheists,
and the Lord of the Christians, and as all these
religions and world views have the same root,
they should go along. One of the most important
rituals of Göbekli Tepe was invoking rain, whence
Latin aqua 'water'. By then a paradise, the region
is now a moonlike landscape. Water is again the
main problem of Asia Minor, and also of northern
Africa, where soon 30,000,000 people will live.
The Israelis use and develop the most clever
methods for greening the land, presently the Negev,
while the Arabs did wonders in the past, consider
the six-hundred meters long dam at Marib, Yemen,
associated with the memory of Bilqis, queen of
Sheba, beloved by Solomon: this dam made a big
oasis bloom and nourished 30,000 people (for
comparison: Rome of the early Renaissance had
40,000 inhabitants). The Nabataeans dwelling
along the wadis of the eastern, Arabian shore
of the Red Sea built many small dams that kept
the bi-annual rain. The ancient ways of greening
the land could be revived with modern methods,
by international and transcultural working groups,
Israelis and Arabs, men and women united in
their task, sponsored by Europe with knowledge
and money and technical facilities. Jordania is
a vast country, 70 (seventy) per cent of their water
evaporates unused, and there is plenty of solar
energy available as well. A lot of possibilities
for young people wishing to do something for
a better future on our planet.

-

[quote]From the Ice Age to the Bible (part 5)

The standing formula for the creation of the
world )OG BIR AC CA was modified through
time and finally became the begin of the Bible,
Genesis 1:1. )OG for the one who has the say
became El or Elohim. BIR for the cosmic fur
became bara' for created - Elohim created -,
in some forms blended with BRA for the right
arm, turning creation into a more deliberate
act, consider BRA MAN Brahman who created
the world playing his lyra with his right hand (man)
and arm (bra). AC for the earth became 'erets,
comparable to Latin agrum English acre arable
earth, German Acker Erde, Swiss Acher Aerde
Härd. And CA for sky, or rather CA MAI for the
sky (ca) promising the pleasure and comfort of
the female zone in a Magdalenian camp (mai)
became shamayim (c- shifting to sh- as in the
case of French court courte English short).

The Jewish tradition has very deep roots that
may here be outlined briefly. The sky god of
Göbekli Tepe was AAR RAA NOS meaning:
mind (nos) of the one composed of air (aar)
and light (raa), seen ex negativo through the
big limestone ring, a god who became the
Greek sky god Ouranos. NOS AAR RAA
as the one who followed the mind (nos) of
the one composed of air (aar) and light (raa)
became Noah. Noah led his people to Armenia,
Armenian comes from AAR RAA MAN for those
who carry out the will of the one composed of
air (aar) and light (raa) with their right hand (man).
AAR RAA NOS is also present in Haran Harran
just south of Göbekli Tepe. Abram Abraham
was linked with Harran, his name can be read
as ABA BRA meaning: he who carries out the
will of the (heavenly) father (aba) with his right
arm (bra). Abraham had a son by the name of
Isaac who may stand in the long line of bird men
as a class of supreme rulers, GhI ShA AC for
a bird call (ghi) ruler (sha) land (ac). Ja>aqob
Jacob whose byname was Israel had a vision
in the wilderness, he sees the Lord in an aureole
on top of a heavenly ladder, and in the morning
he piles up the stones he used for a pillow and
pours oil on the pile, thus making himself the
ruler of the wilderness that was to become Judea.
Now the top of many pillars of the Göbekli Tepe
are covered in cup marks, bowls carved in the
limestone, and these bowls may well have been
filled with fragrant oils when a ruler or leader was
appointed, standing in one of the temples, under
a tall pillar. Jacob is then accepting his fate of
becoming a minor ruler, not a supreme ruler
as his father Isaac, in a gesture of touching
modesty. His name would come from ShA AC,
and his byname Israel from AS RAA ) meaning:
upward (as) to the light (raa) of the Lord (clicking l
that became El and Elohim).

(end of part 5, to be continued)

-

From the Ice Age to the Bible (part 4)

Stone pillar temple D shows the form of an
egg, the long axis measuring twenty meters,
the pair of centrals pillars reaching a height
of five meters above the former floor each,
pillar 31 in the west, pillar 18 in the east.
The wide sides of the central pillars show
arms, while the narrow southern faces are
decorated with a bucranium, the head of a bull
- pillar 31 in the west - and a proto-hieroglyphic
inscription - pillar 18 in the east. So pillar 31
may represent the bull man as supreme leader,
while pillar 18 may represent the triple goddess.
The hieroglyphs consist of a standing H on top.
The vertical bar is a hollowed oval that strongly
evokes an open mouth, indicating a shamaness
or a shaman standing between the central pair
of pillars (vertical bars of the H) and speaking
(open mouth, horizontal bar of the standing H)
in the name of the goddess. The phonetic value
of this hieroglyph would be )OG for the one
who has the say: PIR GID and KAL GID pSAI,
the Underworld being indicated by the fox in
the bend of the right arm of pillar 18 (the fox
as guide through the Underworld). Below the
standing H is a ring in sort of a bowl. The 'bowl'
may represent the cosmic fur BIR, and the ring
the primeval word divided into earth and sky
named AC CA. Together we can read the
inspriction as follows: )OG BIR AC CA ...

Foxes guided the sun and moon and the soul
of a worthy dead through the Underworld. The
fox was an able guide, DhAG for able. Latin
dux means leader. Dogs, domesticated in
the era of Göbekli Tepe, are able guards and
protectors. The supreme Celtic god Dagda
was the good god in the sense of the able god.
German taugen means to be fit, able. German
Ding English thing names human made objects
that are 'able' in one or another practical way.
Ugaritic Ding means god, perhaps again in the
sense of the able one, whereas English god
comes from the inverse of DhAG, namely from
GADh for good in the moral sense. Foxes guided
good souls through the Underworld and back to
daylight, while lions and other dangerous animals,
often on the shafts of pillars, upside down, looking
downward, baring their teeth, hinder unworthy souls
from coming back and leaving the Underworld.
Scoprions may be protectors of good souls on their
dangerous way through the Underworld, and snakes
had the meaning of water, were in that sense no
danger, at least not for good souls returning to
daylight and climbing the sky in order to reach
their heavenly abode.

(end of part 4, to be continued)

-

From the Ice Age to the Bible (part 3)

Climatic changes forced the hunters of the
Ice Age to wander northward and eastward,
and so it came to happen that an influential
tribe reached southeast Anatolia, the region
of Sanli-Urfa, the region of Göbekli Tepe,
just north of the Syrian Harran plain. By now
a moonlike region, it was a paradise 12,000
years ago: lush meadows, groves, game
galore, heading for the cool Anatolian hills
in spring, returning to the warm Syrian plains
in fall. The stone pillar temples of Göbekli
Tepe - which means nabled hill - were built
from 11 600 BP onward, and in use for over
2,000 years, but then, in 9 500 BP, they were
carefully filled up with rubble and abandoned.
There are at least nineteen stone pillar temples,
only a few of them excavated so far by Klaus
Schmidt, who does a great work, proceeding
very carefully. Temple B can be explained as
a lunisolar calendar (a step forward from the
lunisolar calendar of Lascaux and the Late
Magdalenian calendar). A year in the calendar
of Göbekli Tepe has 12 months of 30 days,
plus 5 and occasionally 6 days, while 63
continuous periods of 30 days are 1,890 days
and correspond to 64 lunations. Temple D is
the biggest one excavated so far, and has the
best preserved pillars showing plenty animals,
making Klaus Schmidt think of a Stone Age
zoo: bulls, gazelles, boars, foxes, lions, many
kinds of birds, then also scorpions, spiders,
insects, and the omnipresent snakes. The
ancient name of Göbekli Tepe may have been
AC CA meaning: where earth (ac) and sky (ca)
are meeting, remembered as a Syrian province
by the name of aqa by the ancient Egyptians.
This name was written as a lying H, the two
horizontal bars representing earth and sky,
the slim vertical bar representing the exchanges
between them, especially prayers for rain, and
the smoke of sacrificial fires imploring rain,
both ascending to the sky, and rain falling
from the sky, irrigating the meadows and filling
the river beds, represented and symbolized by
snakes heading upward and downward on a
great many pillars of Göbekli Tepe. Agriculture
started 10,000 years ago, in the late phase of
Göbekli Tepe, at the base of the nearby and
softly ascending Karacadag. Both agriculture
and horticulture asked for irrigation, for plenty
of water. Irrigating fields and gardens required
a lot of work. The easy former life of the hunters
and gatherers and tool makers was replaced
by labor in the fields. There are good reasons
to assume that Göbekli Tepe was the garden
Eden of the Bible. The snake offered an apple
to Eve, Eve and Adam ate it, and were thrown
out of paradise. If the snake symbolizes water,
then the water needed for irrigating of fields
and gardens, especially for dates in Sumer,
and the price for this new step in climbing the
latter of civilization had to be paid in labor.

(end of part 3, to be continued)[/quote]

Guest

On Nov 20, 9:35 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 20, 12:56 pm, Trond Engen <trond...@engen.priv.no> wrote:

Craoibhi...@gmail.com skreiv:

On Nov 20, 4:33 pm, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:

On Nov 20, 1:47 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:

If all they are is "ideograms," then they>re not writing, and there
is no way to assign phonetic readings to them -- because they don>t
have any specific ones.

Your time as dicator of sci.lang is over.

Have you bought the place, then? Who from?

No need. His strategy is liberation through extinction.

As in, "We had to destroy the village in order to save it"? (One of
the more prominent quotations to emerge from the Vietnam War.)
[/quote]
So, Franz would say: "We (majestic plural) had to inundate the place
with spam to save it from the people who wanted to use it for what it
is meant to be used for."

Guest

On Nov 21, 8:06 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 20, 4:15 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:

(...)

You are done as dictator of sci.lang.
Your successor, waiting to take over,
pawing the ground, braying, is a caricature
of you.
[/quote]
Who are you talking about?

Pat · Guest

On Nov 26, 2:09 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:

more tripe, as usual.

Adam Funk · Guest

On 2008-11-26, Craoibhin66@gmail.com wrote:

[quote]So, Franz would say: "We (majestic plural) had to inundate the place
with spam to save it from the people who wanted to use it for what it
is meant to be used for."
[/quote]
I doubt that Franz>s posts meet any standard definition of spam (for a
start, they are not commercial or multi-posted).

As far as I can tell, Franz does not morph. If you switched from
Google Groups to a news client, you could configure it so that you
would never even see any posts by Franz (or anyone else you don>t want
to read) or with unwanted keywords in the subject again.

--
Do not use _literally_ to intensify a metaphorical exaggeration.
People in a famine relief camp may be _literally_ starving, but
it is not a thing to say about oneself towards lunchtime.
(Gowers, _The Complete Plain Words_)

Iamdead · Guest

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:30:23 -0700, Craoibhin66 wrote:

[quote]On Aug 19, 9:26 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai
Maharaj) wrote:
Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Sanskrit Newspaper is now Online

So, I guess that if I wondered what "Kill whiteys" or "Disembowel the
Christians" were in Sanskrit, I would check them in that newspaper?
[/quote]
I very much doubt you would actually need to find them in any other
language let alone Samskritam. They are used widely in almost every
language you would know and speak.

Just listen, instead of talking.

Franz Gnaedinger · Guest

I asked people to respect my wish of keeping
my publishing thread lean. They do not respect
my wish. Panu Petteri Höglund feels compelled
to smear his dirt around wherever I go, and he
feels at home here in my publishing thread:
I warned him many times to keep away from
this thread, to no avail. I announced to write a new
series of messages on the psychopathology of
stalking if he doesn>t get out of this here thread.
He shows up again, he just can>t keep away from
me, being obsessed with me, and so I do as
announced, I will write that series of messages
on the psychopathology of stalking.

Back in 1995 I worked on a project I called SABA.
Now I found a historical, even archaeological
background for that project and posted a brief
version yesterday here in this thread, but as my
thread is messed up by my stalker I published my
message at the wrong place. So here again, at
the right place. Considering the abysmal level of
chatting in sci.lang (also noted by others who have
been driven away from this forum) I have every right
to repeat a good scientific message of mine.

Project SABA or Sheba (postscirpt to my series
"From Göbekli Tepe to the Bible")

The eastern central pillar of temple D, Göbekli
Tepe, 11 600 - 9 500 BP, represents the powerful
triple goddess of old, and the hieroglyphic inscription
)OG BIR AC CA - in my opinion the ur-form of
Genesis 1:1 - testifies to the very high age of the
Jewish tradition. ) and )OG became El and Elohim
of the Jews, Allah of the Muslims, logos of the Greeks,
logic and reason of the atheists and agostics and
pantheists, and the Lord of the Christians. All these
religions and world views having the same root,
they can go along. One of the most important rituals
of Göbekli Tepe, whose ancient name was AC CA,
were prayers for rain, wherefrom Latin aqua 'water'.
The region of Göbekli Tepe was then a paradise,
by now it is a moonlike landscape. Water is again
a big problem for Asia Minor, and also for Africa -
Northern Africa will soon reach a population of
thirty million people. Back in 1995 I worked on
a project I called SABA, the English version would
be Sheba, and I am now reminded of that project.
The Israelis develop clever ways of greening the
Negev, while the Arabs were famous for their dams
in the past. The six-hundred meters long dam of Marib,
Yemen, made a big oasis bloom and nourished
30,000 people (for comparison: Rome of the Early
Renaissance had 40,000 inhabitants). The dam of
Marib is linked with the memory of Bilqis, queen of
Saba or Sheba, loved by Solomon (who, Isreal
Finkelstein postulates, symbolizes the united
kingdom of Judea and Israel in the time between
roughly 700 and 500 BC). The Nabataeans dewilling
on the Arabian shore of the Red Sea built small dams
in the wadis keeping the bi-annual rain. How about
reviving the ancient traditions with modern technology?
by international and transcultural working groups?
Israelis and Arabs, men and women working together,
united in their task? supported with knowledge and
money and technical facilities by Europe? Jordania
is a vast country, 70 (seventy) percent of their water
evaporates unused, and there is plenty of solar
energy availabe too ... A lot of possibilities for young
people wishing to do something for a better future
on our planet, beginning in a crisis-ridden region
that is also a challenge for every US American
administration.

-

[quote]The fire giver PIR GID and the fur giver BIR GID
and the fertility giver BRI GID became the powerful
Celtic triple goddess Brigid. In a beautiful book
by Iain Zaczek, The Cronicle of the Celts, I find this
caption on the festival of Brigid:

Imbolc was the second of the Celtic seasonal
festivals, covering the months of February,
March and April. The chief rituals were carried
out on 1 February and had strong associations
with fertility. In pastoral terms, they were linked
with lambing and the lactation of ewes. The
festival was also devoted to the powerful triple
goddess Brigid. In her different aspects, she
was influential in the fields of healing, poetry
and smithcraft. Poets regarded her as the
source of literary inspiration and her protection
was frequently invoked by mothers in childbirth.
In Ireland, she was probably connected to the
worship of Brigantia, a northern British deity,
and also with the Irish saint of the same name.
It can be no coincidence that the latter>s feast
day is celebrated on 1 February, the same day
as Imbolc.

You may also consider that the Christian festival
of the Candlemass or Purification (of the Virgin
Mary) is on the same day, February 1 (to my
knowledge).

The fire giver PIR GID, accounting for both candles
and smithcraft, was also )OG for the one who has
the say, accounting for poetry in the above enumeration.
How does fire go along with language? Consider the
Christian festival of Pentecost, going back to the
Holy Ghost in the form of a dove endowing people
with a universal language descending on the their
heads in the form of flames ...

-

My "Vision of the Paleolithic Sky" from early spring
found a continuation in my new series of messages
posted yesterday: "From the Ice Age to the Bible"
(part 1 - 6). I am happy about the progress of my
work and consider it one more confirmation of
my Magdalenian approach to early language.

PIE, in my opinion, has several shortcomings.
I pointed them out before. Here again. Sound laws
don>t really hold, PIE doesn>t reach deep enough
in time, there is no reliable idea of early human
language, ever more complicated verbal formulas
are hardly able to represent early words, and the
way archaeology and other scientific disciplines
are dismissed in sci.lang is not acceptable to me.
As phonetic laws don>t really hold, paleo-linguistics
can>t be done in a quasi-algebraic manner, removed
from life and meaning.

My Magdalenian experiment, beginning in early 2005,
is fully documented in the Google archive. Also the
conditions of my work are documented. New ideas
always encountered massive hostility. Nothing changed
with the global village of the World Wide Web at the
begin of the third millennium AD.

I have often been asked for a test case, otherwise
my Magdalenian approach to early language can>t
be considered scientific. I offered several test cases,
the most elaborate one so far is found near the begin
of this here thread: Magdalenian BIR versus PIE *bher-,
English bear as the furry one, provider of the best fur,
thick, longhaired, soft and warm, vs. bear as the brown
one. People killrate my messages, while nobody can
disprove my etymology of bear, nor provide new and
better etymology for the PIE etymology. And so I feel
entitled to go on with my work. The more so as my
new work - the series of messages posted yesterday,
developed for several weeks in another thread -
reveals that BIR has an unexpected cosmological
component opening a new window on a far bygone
past.[/quote]

Guest

On Nov 27, 10:43 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
[quote]I asked people to respect my wish of keeping
my publishing thread lean. They do not respect
my wish. Panu Petteri Höglund feels compelled
to smear his dirt around wherever I go, and he
feels at home here in my publishing thread:
I warned him many times to keep away from
this thread, to no avail.
[/quote]
You have no business using sci.lang for your spam, and you have no
business telling people to stay out of your thread.

Sci.lang does NOT exist to provide you with a platform for your
"publishing" activities. You already have a website, where you can
make your screeds available to any lunatic who is masochistic enough
to actually read your rants. You are neither morally no legally
justified to tell people what to do in this group, and what you are
doing is actually illegal in many jurisdictions. In Finland, you could
actually be sued for a crime called obstruction of telecommunication
(tietoliikenteen häirintä).

Guest

On Nov 27, 12:19 am, Iamdead <iamd...@noisp.net> wrote:
[quote]On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:30:23 -0700, Craoibhin66 wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:26 am, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr. Jai
Maharaj) wrote:
Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman

Sanskrit Newspaper is now Online

So, I guess that if I wondered what "Kill whiteys" or "Disembowel the
Christians" were in Sanskrit, I would check them in that newspaper?

I very much doubt you would actually need to find them in any other
language let alone Samskritam. They are used widely in almost every
language you would know and speak.

Just listen, instead of talking.
[/quote]
Who the f ck are you to command me around?

Peter T. Daniels · Guest

On Nov 27, 3:43 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
[quote]I asked people to respect my wish of keeping
my publishing thread lean. They do not respect
my wish.
[/quote]
How is that different from you injecting your Magdalenian fantasies
into legitimate threads on things like divine names in Semitic
languages?


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