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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] Assembler in ten years? |
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Without Nanotechnology, six billion people are going to die, many of
them in less than a century. The longer we delay, the more will die.
I do realize that Nanotechnology won>t bring us immortality, but it
does have the potential to give us lifespans of several hundred to
perhaps thousands of years.
Turn on your television on any given day and you>ll see images of
starving children and people suffering from diseases that have no cure.
Nanotechnology may be able to save these people.
Isn>t that reason enough to do whatever it takes to get the assembler
as soon as possible?
Phillip Huggan wrote:
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Sure, throwing tens of billions of dollars to develop new SPM tool-tip
geometries and techniques might produce an assembler in ten years. Or maybe
not.
Manhattan Project occured in the context of World War II. Apollo occured in
the context to better the Soviets.
I don>t know about ending all poverty. That has been possible without MNT
since the Green Revolutions in the 70>s, but those with capital haven>t ended
poverty.
Eliminating all disease and facilitating immortality is even more
speculative, but certainly MNT could greatly bolster the number of researchers
working in various biotechnology/medicine fields.
Perhaps part of the problem is that those controlling the public purse are
faced with a bewildering array of "Next-Manhattans" needing funding. Recently
I>ve read about the need for a Manhattan Project style commitment to: develop
alternative energy resources, combat bioterror, build a Space Elevator, employ
all former Soviet nuclear scientists, fund anti-anging research, advance
desalination technologies, build an AI, learn about climate change processes,
build a Lunar Base....you can>t expect Ministers of Industry to separate the
wheat from the chaff.
the.sandwich.king@gmail.com wrote:
Could massive funding, perhaps on the scale of the Manhattan project,
or Apollo program, bring us the assembler in a decade or so?
If so, why aren>t we doing more to speed up its development?
This one device could end poverty, eliminate all disease and provide
near immortality to all. Why isn>t the government taking it seriously?
You would think that with over two decades of research, we>d be there
by now, right?
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div>Sure, throwing tens of billions of dollars to develop new SPM tool-tip
geometries and techniques might produce an assembler in ten years. Or
maybe not.</div> <div>Manhattan Project occured in the context of World War
II. Apollo occured in the context to better the Soviets.</div> <div>I
don>t know about ending all poverty. That has been possible without MNT
since the Green Revolutions in the 70>s, but those with capital haven>t ended
poverty.</div> <div>Eliminating all disease and facilitating immortality is
even more speculative, but certainly MNT could greatly bolster the number
of researchers working in various biotechnology/medicine fields.</div
div>Perhaps part of the problem is that those controlling the public purse
are
faced with a bewildering array of "Next-Manhattans" needing funding.
Recently I>ve read about the need for a Manhattan Project style commitment to:
develop alternative energy resources, combat bioterror, build a
Space Elevator, employ all former Soviet nuclear scientists, fund anti-anging
research, advance desalination technologies, build an AI, learn about climate
change processes, build a Lunar Base....you can>t expect Ministers of Industry
to separate the wheat from the chaff.</div
div><BR><BR><B><I>the.sandwich.king@gmail.com</I></B> wrote:</div
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BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Could massive funding, perhaps on the scale of
the Manhattan project,<BR>or Apollo program, bring us the assembler in a
decade
or so?<BR><BR>If so, why aren>t we doing more to speed up its
development?<BR><BR>This one device could end poverty, eliminate all disease
and provide<BR>near immortality to all. Why isn>t the government taking it
seriously?<BR><BR>You would think that with over two decades of research, we>d
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Steve O'Hara-Smith Guest
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:02 am Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] Assembler in ten years? |
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:49:56 -0000
"Progress City" <progresscity@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Turn on your television on any given day and you>ll see images of
starving children and people suffering from diseases that have no cure.
Nanotechnology may be able to save these people.
[/quote]
You will also see many more suffering and dying of diseases that do
have cures available. As for the starving children, our current technology
is likely sufficient to feed them (or at least many of them) without
recourse to nanotechnology. Technology alone (even nanotechnology) is not
likely to cure educational problems (awareness of the causes of disease and
methods of prevention) or infrastructural problems (there is food here and
people there and no way to get one to the other) or economic problems (a
country with a small debt it cannot service is worse off than a country
with a huge debt that it can service) or ...
[quote]Nanotechnology may be able to save these people.
[/quote]
I don>t know what can save these people, but I don>t think
nanotechnology alone will do it, nor do I think it is needed in order to do
it. Nanotechnology may make it so cheap and easy to do that it happens, but
I have my doubts. After all nuclear power was once going to deliver energy
that was "too cheap to meter", automation was once going to relieve us all
of the burden of labour and ...
Don>t get me wrong, I think nanotechnology will be an important
technology and enable all sorts of interesting and useful things some of
which have already been designed in outline (search archives of this group
for the "Laura S" food synthesiser for example). I just don>t think it will
solve all the world>s problems.
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] Assembler in ten years? |
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[quote]I do realize that Nanotechnology won>t bring us immortality, but it
does have the potential to give us lifespans of several hundred to
perhaps thousands of years.
Turn on your television on any given day and you>ll see images of
starving children and people suffering from diseases that have no cure.
Nanotechnology may be able to save these people.
[/quote]
If you drastically reduce the death rate tomorrow you will have a human
population explosion in short order.
This would circumvent the natural process of selection.
Not until humans are able to quickly expand throughout the cosmos is
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Perry E. Metzger Guest
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] Assembler in ten years? |
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Jesse Spencer <spencerfdnydelete@netscape.net> writes:
[quote]I do realize that Nanotechnology won>t bring us immortality, but it
does have the potential to give us lifespans of several hundred to
perhaps thousands of years.
Turn on your television on any given day and you>ll see images of
starving children and people suffering from diseases that have no cure.
Nanotechnology may be able to save these people.
If you drastically reduce the death rate tomorrow you will have a human
population explosion in short order.
[/quote]
The planet can probably handle many times the current population
without any real difficulty.
[quote]This would circumvent the natural process of selection.
[/quote]
So does taking antibiotics if you have an infection.
[quote]Not until humans are able to quickly expand throughout the cosmos is
this a good idea.
[/quote]
If you had "strong nanotechnology", i.e. Drexler style molecular
manufacturing, leaving the planet would not be that hard.
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Amos Jeffries Guest
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] Assembler in ten years? |
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In article <12kvl2l5r6gc1e3@news.supernews.com>, perry@piermont.com
says...
[quote]
Jesse Spencer <spencerfdnydelete@netscape.net> writes:
I do realize that Nanotechnology won>t bring us immortality, but it
does have the potential to give us lifespans of several hundred to
perhaps thousands of years.
Turn on your television on any given day and you>ll see images of
starving children and people suffering from diseases that have no cure.
Nanotechnology may be able to save these people.
If you drastically reduce the death rate tomorrow you will have a human
population explosion in short order.
The planet can probably handle many times the current population
without any real difficulty.
[/quote]
Er, excuse me. The planet is struggling to handle the _current_ level of
population. Given the human drive to over-use resources that currently
exists.
Take up google Earth(tm) and run a high-level overview of the green
belts of America, Africa, Asia, and Australia. The 'Tropical
Rainforests' that have been turning to brown are now visible from space.
Then see if you can spot _any_ sign of the 'white-belt' of permafrost in
the northern hemisphere as far down as the top of china.
Much confusion as there is over global warning, the true/false is
irrelevant now. The simple fact of it is that we are in the middle of a
global-wide relative drought and the food production land is all dying
off by degrees of latitude due to a whole mix of reasons. Some of which
nanotech may solve or moderate in the long-term. Some will never be. The
catch 22 is the 'long-term' aspect may be too long.
Paradoxically, the best way to reduce the population appears to be
increased education, health, and wealth. The countries with the most of
these three factors are all in negative population growth and have been
since the late 1990>s if you disregard the immigration factors.
Sure, we could develop nanotech fast and provide free resources to the
entire world. But what would you do to educate the now independent
masses on the world/social-friendly way to live? If anyone has a
solution to that one, it was needed yesterday.
Giving every human on the planet exactly what they want is a never-
ending cycling straight through an ego driven hell of anarchy into
extinction. The scenario has been thrashed about by Sci-Fi for decades
with all the reasoning.
[quote]This would circumvent the natural process of selection.
So does taking antibiotics if you have an infection.
Not until humans are able to quickly expand throughout the cosmos is
this a good idea.
If you had "strong nanotechnology", i.e. Drexler style molecular
manufacturing, leaving the planet would not be that hard.
Perry
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Phillip Huggan Guest
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] sci.nanotech Inventions |
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Why do you want to do this? I spend some time
regularly reading various nanotechnology papers and
articles. For example, in the past few weeks I>ve
studied: nanocomposites needed for small
flywheel/wind-power systems, wind turbine blades
carbon composites, a CNT defect "purification"
methodology, UHV components and product
applications...it wouldn>t be too much a tangent to
write old sci.nanotech topic summaries and google
existing topic links, but it would still be a slightly
inferior use of my time.
Do you have an estimate of how many 1-2 page summaries
you would expect the whole project to encompass? Do
you have anything to trade in return? I know not
cash, but perhaps you have University access to
nanotech/materials-science journal articles you>d be
willing to print out or an old copy of Nanosystems or
some other text you>d be willing to lend out? I might
be willing to invest my time if the completed effort
would help others with their nano-education and if
there were some incentive offered for me.
--- Amos Jeffries <webmaster@nanotech.dyndns.org>
wrote:
[quote]I am currently looking for an assistant who has a
knack for research,
nanotech interest and plenty of spare time they can
donate for free.
The job is to data mine the old sci.nanotech
archives looking for any
process or system the regulars here have discussed.
Then to write up a
short (hopefully) page describing it, with publicly
accessible current
references, where possible.
I have an idea that many of these older systems may
already be in full
commercial production. I know my water purifier, the
invisibility
cloaking method, and some of the anti-cancer cures,
fuel-cells etc have
recently been proven and built.
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Perry E. Metzger Guest
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:53 am Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] Assembler in ten years? |
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Amos Jeffries <webmaster@nanotech.dyndns.org> writes:
[quote]The planet can probably handle many times the current population
without any real difficulty.
Er, excuse me. The planet is struggling to handle the _current_ level of
population.
[/quote]
No, it isn>t. Really. We have far more resources than we need for the
current level of population. We even have the case right now that far
more people are overweight than hungry. Indeed, given current resource
levels, we could almost certainly support a large multiple of the
current population in perfect comfort without *any* improvement in
technology. Given improvements in technology we could do far better.
There are a lot of people who seem to believe otherwise, but that is
at variance with the facts.
I think the reason people like to believe that the planet is on the
edge of some sort of population disaster is a secular replacement for
a religious drive for retribution. We like to believe that the human
race is "sinful" and will be "punished for its sins".
However, religious and quasi-religious impulses are not an objective
way to assess resource adequacy.
[quote]Take up google Earth(tm) and run a high-level overview of the green
belts of America, Africa, Asia, and Australia. The 'Tropical
Rainforests' that have been turning to brown are now visible from space.
[/quote]
That has nothing to do with whether we can handle the current
population level. That has to do with whether we have proper ownership
structures for lots of resources. Unowned resources that cannot be
claimed inevitably end up with tragedies of the commons. This is why
there is no problem with farmers pouring toxic waste all over their
fields to make an extra $10 (because they have a long term interest in
the productivity of their resources), but oceans are being overfished
(because since no one owns the resource there is no economic incentive
to avoid overuse).
However, this is not an appropriate topic for this list. I suggest
discussing it with economists instead.
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Amos Jeffries Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:17 am Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] sci.nanotech Inventions |
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In article <12lemp1o9v1sk5a@news.supernews.com>, cdnprodigy@yahoo.com
says...
[quote]
Why do you want to do this? I spend some time
regularly reading various nanotechnology papers and
articles. For example, in the past few weeks I>ve
studied: nanocomposites needed for small
flywheel/wind-power systems, wind turbine blades
carbon composites, a CNT defect "purification"
methodology, UHV components and product
applications...it wouldn>t be too much a tangent to
write old sci.nanotech topic summaries and google
existing topic links, but it would still be a slightly
inferior use of my time.
Do you have an estimate of how many 1-2 page summaries
you would expect the whole project to encompass? Do
you have anything to trade in return? I know not
cash, but perhaps you have University access to
nanotech/materials-science journal articles you>d be
willing to print out or an old copy of Nanosystems or
some other text you>d be willing to lend out? I might
be willing to invest my time if the completed effort
would help others with their nano-education and if
there were some incentive offered for me.
[/quote]
I>m looking at it as a way to both get some more interesting content
into the group website, and also to see if there are any prospects for
research which have not yet been done but might be. I am following the
full assembler and programing myself when I can, but others like the
recent Ankit may benefit from research ideas if they are more readily
available.
I>m aware that there is a _very_ long history of wonderful and wild
ideas in here. It could be quite a lot if anyone was to do a full
background by themselves. The storage space is available, I brought the
idea up in part to see if the time and interest was.
I was considering it as a spare-time effort by anyone who wants to
participate, prescisely because of that low-efficiency slog aspect. I
gae it a try myself a few days ago. All I can really offer in exchange
is the 'free' and public publishing online. I do have access to a
university library, but the university has not even made pretenses of
being nanotech interested. With regards to other lendings, I am based in
Oceania, and essentiall very remote with regards to offline
communications.
Amos
[quote]
--- Amos Jeffries <webmaster@nanotech.dyndns.org
wrote:
I am currently looking for an assistant who has a
knack for research,
nanotech interest and plenty of spare time they can
donate for free.
The job is to data mine the old sci.nanotech
archives looking for any
process or system the regulars here have discussed.
Then to write up a
short (hopefully) page describing it, with publicly
accessible current
references, where possible.
I have an idea that many of these older systems may
already be in full
commercial production. I know my water purifier, the
invisibility
cloaking method, and some of the anti-cancer cures,
fuel-cells etc have
recently been proven and built.
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Phillip Huggan Guest
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] What would be 'green' nanotech? |
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--- Rory McLean <rory@romsys.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[quote]I thought it might be interesting to consider what
might be
'green' nanotech.
[/quote]
In terms of pollution control, anything that functions
like a filter, may qualify. There are many different
definitions of 'green'.
The most extreme example may be Drexler>s envisiones
eutatic filters; sorting arms in between a UHV
interior and the pressurized exterior, responsible for
catching and releasing stray potentially reactive
moeities. So here, DFT simulations of filter
geometries might be the next step.
The nanofilter with the best intermediate term payoff
may be desalination technologies. Filtering brackish
water or seawater. Maybe even extracting components
more valuable than the presently extracted salts (if
there are no ungreen side-effects).
[quote]If we assume that the construction of nanoscale
robots,
'nanobots', that can do useful work for us will
become possible,
an important question might be, how do we use them
in such a way
that they have minimal undesired environmental
impact?
[/quote]
Monitor them with GPS and RFID sensors and whatever
novel sensor designs emerge. Restrict their use to
authorized personnel with our society>s present legal
systems, permits, tests, police, surveillence, etc.
Diffuse at least enough nano consumer products to
excuse poverty as a defense to nanoarchy.
[quote]Reasonably obviously we do not want to release
general purpose
disassembler nanobots into the environment, even if
they do not
have self-replication capability. Any disassembly
that takes
place needs to be of very carefully specified
targets, both in
time and space.
[/quote]
R.Freitas has proposed a study (think it>s around
$30000 USD but I>m not sure) on the Lifeboat
Foundation website to model using DFT (I>m assuming)
one or more diamond building mechanosynthetic
"metabolisms"; to determine whether they are feasible
at room temperature.
In the future there may be a need to very closely
monitor large homologous substances to catch
replicators at a very early stage with low-yield
defenses. Still may be an oil economy but without the
CO2 emissions or carcinogenic air pollutants.
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] New Batteries Using Nanotubes |
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--- forex10 <forex10@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]Lately I have been searching around & finding out
about the huge
potential regarding how nanotubes will affect
various technologies &
bring about many applications. However I
cannot find any info about the use of carbon
nanotubes in batteries or
ultra capacitors. <SNIP
[/quote]
Getting a handle on the nanotech industry in 2005, I
made myself right out a one sentence summary of every
different nanotech product in the nanoapex company
directory. But that site has been consolidated and
the database is no longer free content.
By far, the nanovip site offers the best directory for
nanoproducts:
http://www.nanovip.com/nanotechnology-companies/nanotubes
This for nanotubes. Probably you can search for
batteries or capacitators too.
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:50 am Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] Nanotube Periodic Table? |
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[quote]"forex10" <forex10@yahoo.com> writes:
As nanotubes are now being processed in the lab
(and some for
commercial apps.) they start out as many different
types. Is there
actually an attempt to create a nanotube periodic
table to classify
these different types?
[/quote]
An encyclopedae-ic classification scheme for carbon
allotropes in general, would be a nice tool to have.
The boundaries wouldn>t be as fixed as for The
Periodic Table of Elements, but for instance, under
some conditions low-curvature CNT surfaces behave like
another allotrope flat surface (can>t remember if
graphene and/or diamond at the moment). Some surface
characteristics of "bucky-diamond" also overlap with
Higher Diamondoids and fullerenes.
There are many carbon allotrope geometries.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:11 am Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] Career Advice in Nanotechnology |
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If you define nanoelectronics to mean devices designed to replace computer
chips, I don>t think they will be ready for commercialization 7-8 years from
now. But if you define it to mean nanomaterials with electronic properties,
sure.
Much SPM-based nano research will not result in commercial products soon (too
low mass). Chemical and otherwise physical treatments have more near-term
comercial potential. It might be best to browse the 3M and Siemens websites to
find a (nano) product that interests you and let that application field guide
your study.
The world needs a solid-state hydrogen storage substrate, OLED lighting,
biosensors, "time-release fertilizer nanoparticles (for lower-footprint
agriculture)", desalination (nanomembranes)...Anthropic Reasoning suggests
these technologies must become commercially viable.
Seeking MNT has left me studying diamond surface chemistry and some ceramics.
SPM design isn>t a commercially lucrative field over short time
horizons...computer modelling chemical reactions might not be a bad commercial
skill to have 7-8 years from now, the biomedical market will be big.
"Kaumodaki09@gmail.com" <Kaumodaki09@gmail.com> wrote:
I am from a computer sciences background & wanna get into a management
related role with start ups in nanotechnology.For that I am planning
to pursue a Msc in nanotechnology or advanced materials/materials
science from the UK & then later topping it up with a MBA/Management
of technology/MSTC program from the USA.
However Im not sure about the most practical subject line to study to
give me my desired profile.
Should I do a general course in nanotechnology,which acquaints me with
a bit of everything in nanotechnology without giving me a
specialization in a particular branch,or do I pick up a particular
branch like nano electronic devices or material sciences.
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"Art Deco" <erfc@caballista.org> wrote in message
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[quote]Bob Officer <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:08:58 -0600, in alt.astronomy, Art Deco
erfc@caballista.org> wrote:
Bob Officer <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:45:47 -0600, in alt.astronomy, Art Deco
erfc@caballista.org> wrote:
Bob Officer <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 08:53:42 -0600, in alt.astronomy, Art Deco
erfc@caballista.org> wrote:
Tom Potter <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:54:40 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, Art Deco
As this thread has drifted far off course,
I would like to remind folks what "Potter>s Law" is.
POTTER>S LAW replaces the older Godwin>s Law,
which stated that as an online discussion progressed
the probability approached one
that someone would be called Hitler or a Nazi.
POTTER>S LAW states that:
"If someone makes posts that run counter to conventional wisdom
and/or media hype, the probability that some bigot will
nominate them for a dubious award approaches one."
This is stuff of *drama queens* often construct.
Nice catch. He also likes to bluster about with impotent legal
threats.
Preens, but I have been studying kooks much long than you have... :)
As I>ve said before, I>m just a rookie.
boat cabin Scene
Point to scars, "I got this back in...
/fades to black
boat cabin scene
Maybe someone should point out godwin never called it godwin>s law.
others did. Formosa Rule wasn>t named by David, it was what others
used to refer to his statement.
The same is true of Postman>s AH exemption.
Exactly. usenet is cluttered with rules collieries, and exemptions
Only a crackpot, places his own name on the rule.
Apparently he>s been spewing this "Potter>s Law" buffoonery for quite
some time. Anytime someone dares to laugh at his silly ideas is an
opportunity to invoke his "law".
Maybe we need "Crackpotter>s rule: When a kook places his own name
upon some law or rule, then the rule is automatically of no
consequence, and can be ignored. "
"ignored, mocked with scorn, and/or laughed at with derision."
I like that... Maybe we will have something worthwhile to present to
the FNVW.
The proposed and adjusted Rule v1.1:
Crackpotter>s rule: "When a kook or users places his own name
upon some law or rule, then the rule is automatically of no
consequence, and can be ignored,mocked with scorn, and/or laughed at
with derision."
History and revisions:
v1.0 Creeate by Bob Officer
V1.1 the addition of the words "or User" By Bob Officer and the
addition of the phrase "mocked with scorn, and/or laughed at with
derision." By Art Deco.
All suggestion and revision should be addressed to me for discussion.
APPROVED, according to the power vested in me as the Official Overseer
of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy.
{ I wonder Why you did not call yourself Art Rococo, it is a bit more
ornate )
True that, but there is just something about those Raymond Loewy curved
lines.
The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing
from
his
own."
As can be seen by their posts
Art Deco, T. Wake, "The_Man" <me_so_hornee...@yahoo.com> ,
Gisse, Puddleduck, Bob Officer, are among the
most bigoted posters in the newsgroups,
and are very active in hyping dubious awards,
and turning the newsgroups into "Rivers of Shit".
BTW, here is a picture of Art Deco
if anyone cares to know what he looks like,
and to see where he works.
http://tinyurl.com/3yf9t9
And the news article below seems to show Puddleduck picture,
and explain his absence from the newsgroups.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3290557&page=1
This is Foam Duck material.
[crackpotter froups snecked]
I need to pay more attention to the Crackerpot>s broadcast
attempts... I wonder why he put alt.lawenforcement? Does he think I
am a cop of some sort?
Note that since he has become aware of AUK, he now snecks it from his
BI-boosting broadcasts, so one needs to read the groups he infests
regularly.
Ah... I saw, be sure to add AUK back... :)
In his twisted world-view, as many people as possible need to be
informed about these "bigots" who are turning usenet into "rivers of
shit", thus he shotguns his screed to some very eclectic collections of
newsgroups.
So he spams all over usenet. Howard might ask him onto his sat-radio
show... That might be worth listening.
Crackpotter has Rookie Kook of the Year stamped all over him.
and cleat marks on his ass.
So that>s what those are, I was wondering.
it is baseball season...
I think he>s been beaned a few too many times.
--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco
Darth Deco, Sith Lord of alt.astronomy
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads for alt.astronomy
[/quote]
--
As can be seen from their posts,
"Art Deco", "Kadaitcha Man", "Bob Officer", "Puddleduck", "Meat Plow",
and a small group of low self-esteem, bigoted sociopaths
are turning the Internet into a vast sewer.
Rather than mud wrestling with them, I simply call attention to their posts
without comment.
The question is, what can be done to keep anonymous perverts and sociopaths
from destroying the Internet?
As rats, roaches, criminals, sociopaths, and other vermin
fear exposure and tend to fade away when exposed to light,
here>s what could be done to prevent a few perverts and sociopaths
from turning your newsgroup into a sewer.
1. Post their real names, addresses and employers on the Internet.
2. Post their pictures and other personal data on the Internet.
3. Report them to their ISP and Google
4. Sue them in local Small Claims courts
5. Report them to law enforcement when they commit crimes such as forging
users names,
identity theft, soliciting children, etc.
--
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:11 am Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] Art Deco sewage |
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Why was this posting approved?
..pm
"Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> writes:
[quote]"Art Deco" <erfc@caballista.org> wrote in message
news:240620071637011583%erfc@caballista.org...
Bob Officer <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote:
[/quote]
[Rest of lengthy nonsense, deleted by the moderator. And the moderator
responds: Obviously, that message was not approved by the moderation staff.
It is fairly easy to forge a USENET approval, and while most ISPs will yank an
account for doing that, there is no way to recall the message once it>s
through. --JSN.]
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: Re: [Sci.nanotech] Re: Who>s still reading this group? |
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I>m still a silent oberver, but will not likely comment.
---- John Devereux <jdREMOVE@THISdevereux.me.uk> wrote:
[quote]
Jim Logajan <JamesL@lugoj.com> writes:
Hello all,
Traffic on this group sure has slowed over the years. It>s hard to tell who
is still lurking and who has been taken from us mere mortals by early onset
of technological singularity. ;-)
So please raise your hand if you are still reading this group.
Okay - that was nice - now if you could please post that you raised your
hand it>d be easier to see how many potential posters and lurkers are still
out there. :-)
Hi Jim,
I>m still here... still lurking... still waiting for my flying car.
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John Devereux
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