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Mathew Orman
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: The crankiest FTL site................................. |
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"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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[quote]Mathew Orman wrote:
http://www.crank.net/ftl.html
Thanks for registering as a crank!
[/quote]
You welcome!
Mathew Orman
www.ultra-faster-than-light.com
www.radio-faster-than-light.com
http://www.crank.net/ftl.html |
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JM Albuquerque
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: The crankiest FTL site.................................. |
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"Mathew Orman" <orman@nospam.com> escreveu na mensagem
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[quote]http://www.crank.net/ftl.html
Finally I got free publicity!
[/quote]
I>ve read your "how does it work" page:
http://www.ultra-faster-than-light.com/hwodoesitwork.htm
and I don>t agree with you.
I doesn>t work that way, neither the magnets experiment, nor the speed
calculation experiments.
The magnets experiment is very similar to the problem of the "speed of
gravity" between the Sun and the Earth. If gravity propagates linearly at
speed of light (between the Sun and the Earth), gravity departed from the
Sun will completely miss the Earth by an amount about the size of the Earth.
If so a force upon the Earth will be exerted and Earth>s orbit speed must
slow down quickly. Because Earth>s speed doesn>t slow down that way, one
must conclude that speed of gravity propagates with infinite speed.
But there is an error about this type of reasoning.
Notice that both are attracting each other at the same specific moment
(t=0). So, a wave from the Sun and a wave from the Earth depart at the same
time, to meet half way the distance. When they meet the Earth had moved (at
30 km/s) (in fact the Sun also have moved at 200 km/s within Milky-Way). If
you plot the actual line forces between the Sun and the Earth they are
curves, not lines. That curve in space is the space time curvature of
Earth-Sun system seen by an outside object placed about Earth-Sun half
distance (I>m not sure oh this).
With the magnets it is the same.
The problem with speed of gravity is often confused with that of Sun>s light
aberration. Light from the Sun has aberration when it reaches the Earth,
because it travels linearly at the speed of light. So light doesn>t reach
the Earth perpendicular. But light is one way trip. Gravity is a "two way
trip".
About your speed calculation experiments, you are confusing frequency with
front wave speed.
What you see in the scope is that phase frequency is the same (no delay),
otherwise there will be a progressive phase shift along the wire. You see no
phase shift in the wire, but you are not measuring the speed of electricity.
Sorry to tell you this, but...
Best Regards,
JM Albuquerque |
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Roy McCammon
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: The crankiest FTL site.................................. |
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Mathew Orman wrote:
[quote]http://www.crank.net/ftl.html
Finally I got free publicity!
[/quote]
I haven>t been following this for a while,
but I suppose you realize that you can arrange
things so that the output phase leads the input
phase which would, according to your ideas as I
understand them, mean that the output occurs
before the input. String enough of these
things together and you should be able to
get tomorrow>s stock market report today.
--
local optimization seldom leads to global optimization
my e-mail address is: rb <my last name> AT ieee DOT org |
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Joseph.D.Warner
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: The crankiest FTL site.................................. |
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Roy McCammon wrote:
[quote]Mathew Orman wrote:
http://www.crank.net/ftl.html
Finally I got free publicity!
I haven>t been following this for a while,
but I suppose you realize that you can arrange
things so that the output phase leads the input
phase which would, according to your ideas as I
understand them, mean that the output occurs
before the input. String enough of these
things together and you should be able to
get tomorrow>s stock market report today.
[/quote]
Sounds good. Does it also include a quick bolding of the stocks that
moved more thant 10% up and down so I don>t have search for them.
How much money could I make then on margin?
I might to get to be richer thant R.K. Rowlings. |
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Mathew Orman
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: The crankiest FTL site.................................. |
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"Roy McCammon" <rbmccammon@mmm.com> wrote in message
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[quote]Mathew Orman wrote:
http://www.crank.net/ftl.html
Finally I got free publicity!
I haven>t been following this for a while,
but I suppose you realize that you can arrange
things so that the output phase leads the input
phase which would, according to your ideas as I
understand them, mean that the output occurs
before the input. String enough of these
things together and you should be able to
get tomorrow>s stock market report today.
--
local optimization seldom leads to global optimization
my e-mail address is: rb <my last name> AT ieee DOT org
[/quote]
One can arrange anything this days!
But if you send a single pulse that has trapezoid shape it will
always propagate with finite delay.
My FTL data transmission line is now been evaluated by major scientific lab
in Mountain View, CA.
Group of scientist including Nobel Price winner are considering FTL data
transmission lines in their new type of particle detector that they are
working on..
If you want I can send you the contact name and email.
Sincerely,
Mathew Orman
www.ultra-faster-than-light.com
www.radio-faster-than-light.com |
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Mark Palenik
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 6:56 am Post subject: Re: The crankiest FTL site.................................. |
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I tried to point this out to him, and he completely ignored that part of my
argument.
"JM Albuquerque" <j.m.albuquerque@mail.telepac.pt> wrote in message
news:bd6vro$pck0c$1@ID-160589.news.dfncis.de...
[quote]
"Mathew Orman" <orman@nospam.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:bd55jt$4i1$1@news.onet.pl...
http://www.crank.net/ftl.html
Finally I got free publicity!
I>ve read your "how does it work" page:
http://www.ultra-faster-than-light.com/hwodoesitwork.htm
and I don>t agree with you.
I doesn>t work that way, neither the magnets experiment, nor the speed
calculation experiments.
The magnets experiment is very similar to the problem of the "speed of
gravity" between the Sun and the Earth. If gravity propagates linearly at
speed of light (between the Sun and the Earth), gravity departed from the
Sun will completely miss the Earth by an amount about the size of the
Earth.
If so a force upon the Earth will be exerted and Earth>s orbit speed must
slow down quickly. Because Earth>s speed doesn>t slow down that way, one
must conclude that speed of gravity propagates with infinite speed.
But there is an error about this type of reasoning.
Notice that both are attracting each other at the same specific moment
(t=0). So, a wave from the Sun and a wave from the Earth depart at the
same
time, to meet half way the distance. When they meet the Earth had moved
(at
30 km/s) (in fact the Sun also have moved at 200 km/s within Milky-Way).
If
you plot the actual line forces between the Sun and the Earth they are
curves, not lines. That curve in space is the space time curvature of
Earth-Sun system seen by an outside object placed about Earth-Sun half
distance (I>m not sure oh this).
With the magnets it is the same.
The problem with speed of gravity is often confused with that of Sun>s
light
aberration. Light from the Sun has aberration when it reaches the Earth,
because it travels linearly at the speed of light. So light doesn>t reach
the Earth perpendicular. But light is one way trip. Gravity is a "two way
trip".
snip
Sorry to tell you this, but...
Best Regards,
JM Albuquerque
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The Ghost In The Machine
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 9:00 am Post subject: Re: The crankiest FTL site.................................. |
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In sci.physics, Mathew Orman
<orman@nospam.com>
wrote
on Sun, 22 Jun 2003 23:05:18 +0200
<bd55jt$4i1$1@news.onet.pl>:
[quote]http://www.crank.net/ftl.html
Finally I got free publicity!
[/quote]
Obviously you>re a fan of bad publicity being better than none at all.
Sold any cables yet? :-P
[.sigsnip]
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Frodo Morris
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: The crankiest FTL site.................................. |
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Mathew Orman wrote:
[quote]
Try a single gaussian pulse with 100ns pulse width!
What if people were to want to send *data*? A 'single Gaussian pulse'[/quote]
doesn>t contain any.
--
Frodo Morris http://users.ox.ac.uk/~wadh1342
All your bast are belong to us AKA Graham Lee, Wadham College
SpectrumSofts currently on show at URL/speccy/: Speccy@Home SETI Client
Also the home of iloveyou.bas, the first PC virus ported to the ZX82!!! |
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Mathew Orman
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"Mark Palenik" <markpalenik@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
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[quote]I tried to point this out to him, and he completely ignored that part of
my
argument.
"JM Albuquerque" <j.m.albuquerque@mail.telepac.pt> wrote in message
news:bd6vro$pck0c$1@ID-160589.news.dfncis.de...
"Mathew Orman" <orman@nospam.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:bd55jt$4i1$1@news.onet.pl...
http://www.crank.net/ftl.html
Finally I got free publicity!
I>ve read your "how does it work" page:
http://www.ultra-faster-than-light.com/hwodoesitwork.htm
and I don>t agree with you.
I doesn>t work that way, neither the magnets experiment, nor the speed
calculation experiments.
The magnets experiment is very similar to the problem of the "speed of
gravity" between the Sun and the Earth. If gravity propagates linearly
at
speed of light (between the Sun and the Earth), gravity departed from
the
Sun will completely miss the Earth by an amount about the size of the
Earth.
If so a force upon the Earth will be exerted and Earth>s orbit speed
must
slow down quickly. Because Earth>s speed doesn>t slow down that way, one
must conclude that speed of gravity propagates with infinite speed.
But there is an error about this type of reasoning.
Notice that both are attracting each other at the same specific moment
(t=0). So, a wave from the Sun and a wave from the Earth depart at the
same
time, to meet half way the distance. When they meet the Earth had moved
(at
30 km/s) (in fact the Sun also have moved at 200 km/s within Milky-Way).
If
you plot the actual line forces between the Sun and the Earth they are
curves, not lines. That curve in space is the space time curvature of
Earth-Sun system seen by an outside object placed about Earth-Sun half
distance (I>m not sure oh this).
With the magnets it is the same.
The problem with speed of gravity is often confused with that of Sun>s
light
aberration. Light from the Sun has aberration when it reaches the Earth,
because it travels linearly at the speed of light. So light doesn>t
reach
the Earth perpendicular. But light is one way trip. Gravity is a "two
way
trip".
snip
Sorry to tell you this, but...
Best Regards,
JM Albuquerque
[/quote]
To argue with the hardware you need to have solid knowledge in electronics.
Do you have any?
If so, can you provide frequency sweep phase shift output (in ns units) for
2m bare copper wire 2mm in diameter and suspended 1m above
conducting surface for 10Hz to 10MHz sinusoidal waveform span?
Sincerely,
Mathew Orman
www.ultra-faster-than-light.com
www.radio-faster-than-light.com |
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Mathew Orman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: The crankiest FTL site.................................. |
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"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
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[quote]In sci.physics, Mathew Orman
orman@nospam.com
wrote
on Sun, 22 Jun 2003 23:05:18 +0200
bd55jt$4i1$1@news.onet.pl>:
http://www.crank.net/ftl.html
Finally I got free publicity!
Obviously you>re a fan of bad publicity being better than none at all.
Sold any cables yet? :-P
[.sigsnip]
--
#191, ewill3@earthlink.net
It>s still legal to go .sigless.
[/quote]
No,
I just one to have some fan when I publish independent verification
of my FTL hardware done by major US scientific lab and possibly signed by
Nobel Price winner!
Sincerely,
Mathew Orman
www.ultra-faster-than-light.com
www.radio-faster-than-light.com |
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Frodo Morris
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: The crankiest FTL site.................................. |
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Mathew Orman wrote:
[quote]"Frodo Morris" <graham.lee@wadham.ox.invalid.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:bd8tke$6qk$1@news.ox.ac.uk...
Mathew Orman wrote:
Try a single gaussian pulse with 100ns pulse width!
What if people were to want to send *data*? A 'single Gaussian pulse'
doesn>t contain any.
--
Frodo Morris http://users.ox.ac.uk/~wadh1342
All your bast are belong to us AKA Graham Lee, Wadham College
SpectrumSofts currently on show at URL/speccy/: Speccy@Home SETI Client
Also the home of iloveyou.bas, the first PC virus ported to the ZX82!!!
That depends on protocol.
If you define that no pulse = 0 and pulse = 1
than you can send binary data.
[/quote]
Then you run into all sorts of issues on timing etc., which is why much
data transmission equipment uses the Manchester protocol (which, being a
supplier of data transmission equipment, I will assume you are familiar
with). So, if you have to send data by [Guassian pulse=1, !Guassian
pulse=!1], presumably you>ve also manufactured network equipment that
works on this standard? My Realtek 8139 doesn>t, and as it>s
bog-standard ethernet equipment that means that other ethercards don>t
either. Why are these not for sale on your site? Where could one get
one? How did you solve the timing issue?
[quote]
The single pulse is for testing true transient delay only.
One can use stream of random gaussian or trapezoid pulses to transfer data
in binary form using various protocols.
You can>t transmit data through random pulses :-) [although it>s true[/quote]
that data can appear similar to random pulses]
So, trapezoidal pulses? What happened to "But if you send a single
pulse that has trapezoid shape it will always propagate with finite
delay." then? Is your cable not working properly?
--
Frodo Morris http://users.ox.ac.uk/~wadh1342
All your bast are belong to us AKA Graham Lee, Wadham College
SpectrumSofts currently on show at URL/speccy/: Speccy@Home SETI Client
Also the home of iloveyou.bas, the first PC virus ported to the ZX82!!! |
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Mark Palenik
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: The crankiest FTL site.................................. |
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"Mathew Orman" <orman@nospam.com> wrote in message
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[quote]
"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
message news:dgejs-v3j.ln1@lexi2.athghost7038suus.net...
In sci.physics, Mathew Orman
orman@nospam.com
wrote
on Sun, 22 Jun 2003 23:05:18 +0200
bd55jt$4i1$1@news.onet.pl>:
http://www.crank.net/ftl.html
Finally I got free publicity!
Obviously you>re a fan of bad publicity being better than none at all.
Sold any cables yet? :-P
[.sigsnip]
--
#191, ewill3@earthlink.net
It>s still legal to go .sigless.
No,
I just one to have some fan when I publish independent verification
of my FTL hardware done by major US scientific lab and possibly signed by
Nobel Price winner!
Sincerely,
Mathew Orman
www.ultra-faster-than-light.com
www.radio-faster-than-light.com
[/quote]
Wow, a winner of the Nobel Price. Sounds impressive, but what is it?
Was anybody else as confused by the above sentence as I was?
--
"I>m NOT your grasshopper, "Goofus". And I just might get that Nobel
prize." - Smart1234 |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: The crankiest FTL site.................................. |
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"J. B. Wood" <wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil> wrote in message
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[quote]My FTL data transmission line is now been evaluated by major scientific
lab
in Mountain View, CA.
Group of scientist including Nobel Price winner are considering FTL data
transmission lines in their new type of particle detector that they are
working on..
If you want I can send you the contact name and email.
Thanks, but I>ll wait until your results appear in a respected (and peer
reviewed) scientific or engineering journal. An article in an IEEE pub
would be nice and do much to establsh your credibility. A usenet
newsgroup is not the proper vehicle to accomplish this IMHO. OTOH, from a
strictly business perspective, if you>re already selling beaucoup FTL
transmission lines maybe you don>t need any of this. Now just where did I
put my magnetic belt and copper bracelets ;-)? Sincerely,
[/quote]
An IEEE pub? Are you kidding? This guy probably couldn>t even get into
sci.physics.research
--
The new Smart1234 quote list:
"The Lord said Himself He was not of the world. So this must mean there is
another universe, that The Smart Model does apply to."
"I>m NOT your grasshopper, "Goofus". And I just might get that Nobel
prize."
"Screw YOU and your worthless Nobel Prize in Physics and this world can go
to hell, for all I care. I think this is why God forsaked this world long
before me. God left. Jesus can save you, but where? Not here, He takes you
out of here, I think He said screw this world too, but in a polite loving
way."
The Smart Model is "basically" the most correct model in the human race. |
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"Kevin Aylward" <kevin@anasoft.co.uk> wrote in message news:<G1GLa.6371$sh4.580573@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net>...
[quote]Eric Levy wrote:
I am writing a book about spirituality for children and teens. I>m
encasing it in what they can relate to--the Matrix. But they only know
the movies. Who can tell me in simple terms children can understand
about what the matrix is in quantum physics
It isnt. The Matrix is sci-fi.
and its relation to
alternate relatities--I want children to learn that they create their
own reality.
In all, likelihood, this is not true. Observer created reality is just
an idea thats thrown about.
It>s a very old idea - it>s called idealism. After the Enlightment,[/quote]
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