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Keith P Walsh · Guest

On 29 Oct, 17:16, Richard Herring <junk@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
[quote]In message <ed0TyBPMUJCJF...@baesystems.com>, Richard Herring
junk@[127.0.0.1]> writes

In message
f6789fe0-52bf-411f-9cb2-d69490fda...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Keith P Walsh <keith.p.wa...@btinternet.com> writes

However I would like to test your logic with another question if I
may. I presume that you have some professional and/or academic
connection with the world of electromagnetics. Had you ever heard of
Robert G Malech before his name was brought to your attention in this
newsgroup thread?

No.

FWIW, he appears to be a professional electrical engineer who published
a number of papers on microwave antennas in the 1950s and 60s...

It is clearly to the patentee>s advantage to make as many speculative
claims as he can get away with, whether he believes them or not. If
someone else happens to validate them, he can claim the rewards without
investing his own time and money. Speculative patents are just as
likely to be the work of a cynic as a crackpot.

... so more likely cynic than crackpot.

[/quote]
Now it>s my turn to claim false dichotomy!

Perhaps he was both deadly serious and correct. (Well in the absence
of any experimental evidence to the contrary how would we know?)

Would you happen to have any idea who John McMurtrey is or was?

He appears to have taken Malech more seriously than you do.

Someone has attributed him with the comments shown.

Keith P Walsh

*************************************************

Remote EEG Discussion

By John McMurtrey MS

“Thought reading or ‘synthetic telepathy’” communications technology
procurement is considered in a 1993 Jane’s[a] Special Operations
Forces (SOF) article: “One day, SOF commandos may be capable of
communicating through thought processes.” Descriptive terms are
“’mental weaponry’ and psychic warfare” [1] Although contemplated in
future context, unlikely is development from scratch solely for
Special Forces, and availability of a technology not fully adapted to
troop level Special Forces requirements is implied.

In 1976 the Malech Patent # 3951134 “Apparatus and method for
remotely monitoring and altering brain waves” was granted. [2] Given
operation example is 100 and 210 MHz; frequencies penetrating
obstruction. Remote delineations are: “The individual components of
the system for monitoring and controlling brain wave activity may be
of conventional type commonly employed in radar”; and “The system
permits medical diagnosis of patients, inaccessible to physicians,
from remote stations.” License is to Dorne & Margolin Inc., but now
protection is expired with public domain.

The capability of remote EEG is predicted by electromagnetic
scattering theory using ultrashort pulses. [3] The Malech patent
utilizes interference of 210 and 100 MHz frequencies resulting in a
110 MHz return signal, which is demodulated to give EEG waveform.
Reference to ultrashort pulses without mention of another interfering
frequency indicates that these remote EEG references represent
different mechanisms, and therefore methods. Ultrashort pulses
currently have definition in the range of 10-15 second. Considering
that EEG word elicited potentials are comparatively long (100s of
milliseconds), has relevance to remote radar EEG capture adequate to
word recognition, with ultrashort pulses allowing greater than 109
radar reflections in a millisecond (10-3 sec.)

The possibility of impressing an ‘experience set’ on an individual is
also contemplated.3 The above patent also can alter brain waves.
Microwave non-lethal weapon brain wave disruption[4] and behavioral
change including unconsciousness[5] are known.[6]

The Malech EEG telemetry patent and ultrashort pulses represent active
radar probe. Yet a passive field extends as far as 12 feet from the
human as detected by a cryogenic antenna.[7] A publication maintains
this device as entirely adaptable to clandestine applications and
pointedly comments on the disappearance of physiological remote
sensing literature since the 1970’s for animals and humans, while all
other categories of remote sensing research greatly expanded.[8]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[a] Jane’s is the most respected and authoritative of defense
reporting services.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[1] Lopez R. “Special operations survives Pentagon budget constraints”
Jane’s International Defense Review 26(3): 247-51, 1993.

[2] Malech RG. Patent #3951134 “Apparatus and method for remotely
monitoring and altering brain waves” USPTO granted 4/20/76.

[3] Department of the Army, USAF Scientific Advisory Board. “New World
Vistas: air and space for the 21st century” 14 vol. (Ancillary Volume)
p 89-90, 1996.

[4] Morehouse DA. Nonlethal Weapons: War without Death Praeger, p. 20,
1996.

[5] Dando M. A New Form of Warfare: The Rise of Non-Lethal Weapons
Brassey’s, London, Washington p. 22, 1996.

[6] Becker RO. Cross Currents Jeremy P. Tarcher, Inc., Los Angeles, p.
303-4, 1990.

[7] Taff BE and Stoller KP. Patent #49400558 “Cryogenic ermote sensing
physiograph” USPTO granted 7/10/90.

[8] Stoller KP and Taff BE. “Remote Physiological Sensing: Historical
Perspective, Theories and Preliminary Developments” Med Instrum 20(5):
260-5, 1986.

Richard Herring · Guest

In message
<e4c33e3b-b514-472a-9241-0b5f140dbbd8@v56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Keith P Walsh <keith.p.walsh@btinternet.com> writes
[quote]On 29 Oct, 17:16, Richard Herring <junk@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
In message <ed0TyBPMUJCJF...@baesystems.com>, Richard Herring
junk@[127.0.0.1]> writes

In message
f6789fe0-52bf-411f-9cb2-d69490fda...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Keith P Walsh <keith.p.wa...@btinternet.com> writes

However I would like to test your logic with another question if I
may. I presume that you have some professional and/or academic
connection with the world of electromagnetics. Had you ever heard of
Robert G Malech before his name was brought to your attention in this
newsgroup thread?

No.

FWIW, he appears to be a professional electrical engineer who published
a number of papers on microwave antennas in the 1950s and 60s...

It is clearly to the patentee>s advantage to make as many speculative
claims as he can get away with, whether he believes them or not. If
someone else happens to validate them, he can claim the rewards without
investing his own time and money. Speculative patents are just as
likely to be the work of a cynic as a crackpot.

... so more likely cynic than crackpot.

Now it>s my turn to claim false dichotomy!

Perhaps he was both deadly serious and correct. (Well in the absence
of any experimental evidence to the contrary how would we know?)
[/quote]
We can look at those claims, for a start. Have you actually *read* the
patent in question?
[quote]
Would you happen to have any idea who John McMurtrey is or was?
[/quote]
No.
[quote]
He appears to have taken Malech more seriously than you do.
[/quote]
So? Appeal to authority is a well-known rhetorical fallacy. Here you
don>t even appear to know whether your "authority" is authoritative.

[quote]
Someone has attributed him with the comments shown.
[/quote]
Most of which are not about the Malech patent, but his other references.

--
Richard Herring

Keith P Walsh · Guest

On 30 Oct, 09:57, Richard Herring <junk@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
[quote]
He appears to have taken Malech more seriously than you do.

So? Appeal to authority is a well-known rhetorical fallacy. Here you
don>t even appear to know whether your "authority" is authoritative.

[/quote]
I don>t have any idea whether you are "authoritative" either.

Nevertheless, I>ve found someone else who appears to take Robert G
Malech>s patent more seriously than you do. It>s a guy called Nick
Begich, MD, and he references US patent 3951134 in his piece
"Controlling the Human Mind”, which you can find at:

http://www.earthpulse.com/epulseuploads/articles/MindControl.pdf

More interestingly, he also quotes an article from a book published by
the Air University Press in the USA entitled "Low-Intensity Conflict
and Modern Technology", which says:

'Currently available data allow the projection that specially
generated radio frequency radiation (RFR) fields may pose powerful and
revolutionary military threats. Electroshock therapy indicates the
ability of induced electric current to completely interrupt mental
functioning for short periods of time, to obtain cognition for longer
periods and to restructure emotional response over prolonged
intervals.

'Experience with electroshock therapy, RFR experiments and the
increasing understanding of the brain as an electrically mediated
organ suggested the serious probability that impressed electromagnetic
fields can be disruptive to purposeful behavior and may be capable of
directing and or interrogating such behavior."

The book was edited by Lt. Col. David J Dean of the US Air Force (some
level of authority there!). However this particular quote is taken
from a contribution included in the book which is entitled "The
Electromagnetic Spectrum in Low-Intensity Conflict", and is attributed
to a Paul Tyler.

"Paul Tyler? Which Paul Tyler?", I hear you ask.

Well, as a matter of fact there appears to be a degree of confusion
there. The reference appended to Nick Begich>s article (Ref 74)
specifies "Tyler, Capt. Paul E., MC, USN". However, other sources
attribute this article to a Paul H Tyler, described as the former head
of a US Air Force radiation project.

You can inspect and compare descriptions of Paul E Tyler and Paul H
Tyler respectively at:

http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/ReferencesView.aspx?PersonID=9224277

and:

http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/ReferencesView.aspx?PersonID=205105015

Are these the names of two different people or not?

And if so, which one of them wrote "The Electromagnetic Spectrum in
Low-Intensity Conflict"?

I>d say that if it was the one who had led the US Air Force radiation
project then he may well have been writing with some "authority" on
the subject.

Wouldn>t you?

Keith P Walsh

Guest

plutonium.archime...@gmail.com wrote:
[quote]--- quoting from Wikipedia on Kleiber>s Law ---
The exponent for Kleiber>s law, which is called a power law, was a
matter of dispute for many decades. It is still contested by a
diminishing number as being 2/3 rather than the more widely accepted
3/4. Because the law concerned the capture, use, and loss of energy by
a biological system, the system>s metabolic rate was at first taken to
be 2/3 because energy was thought of mostly in terms of heat energy.
Metabolic rate was expressed in energy per unit time, specifically
calories per second. Two thirds expressed the relation of the square
of the radius to the cube of the radius of a sphere, with the volume
of the sphere increasing faster than the surface area, with increases
in radius. This was purportedly the reason large creatures lived
longer than small ones - that is, as they got bigger they lost less
energy per unit volume through the surface, as radiated heat.
--- end quoting ---
[/quote]

If you read the above encyc entry of Kleiber>s law in biology, it
almost reads as
if you were reading about the Fusion Barrier Principle where it talks
of squaring
the radius versus cubing the radius and surface area versus volume. In
fact,
this is similar to my deriving the Fusion Barrier Principle by saying
the Faraday
Law is a cylinder that contains inside itself the sphere of Coulomb>s
Law and
the cylinder has a 1/3 greater volume than the sphere inside.

So it is nice to see that biology has this problem of volume versus
surface area.

And I do believe that Klieber>s law should really be the exponent 2/3
not the 3/4.
Although many animals such as the elephant more closely follow the 3/4
exponent, it is the 2/3 exponent that is the **lower limit**. Are
there any animals
of a square root exponent of E = M^0.5?

I would dare say that was impossible for an animal to exist to have an
exponent
of 1/2. So what I dare say, is that the lower limit is exponent 2/3
and although
alot of animals have an exponent of 3/4, means nothing of note.
Because it is
similar to saying that most tokamaks reach about 25% breakeven. The
important
thing is the **limits**. And the number 2/3 breakeven is an upper
limit in fusion
physics and the number 2/3 exponent in Klieber>s law is a lower limit
for biological
individuals.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

Richard Herring · Guest

In message
<13be9bca-f141-47c5-a5f4-c74745701c86@p59g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
Keith P Walsh <keith.p.walsh@btinternet.com> writes
[quote]On 30 Oct, 09:57, Richard Herring <junk@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

He appears to have taken Malech more seriously than you do.

So? Appeal to authority is a well-known rhetorical fallacy. Here you
don>t even appear to know whether your "authority" is authoritative.

I don>t have any idea whether you are "authoritative" either.
[/quote]
You miss the point again. Nobody is appealing to me as an authority.
[quote]
Nevertheless, I>ve found someone else who appears to take Robert G
Malech>s patent more seriously than you do.
[/quote]
Again, so what? Another appeal to questionable authority.

[quote]It>s a guy called Nick
Begich, MD, and he references US patent 3951134 in his piece
"Controlling the Human Mindâ€, which you can find at:

http://www.earthpulse.com/epulseuploads/articles/MindControl.pdf
[/quote]
Yes, and?
"References" is about all he does: apart from quoting from it he doesn>t
appear to draw any conclusions from it. And the fact that he references
it doesn>t make the slightest difference to what the patent describes.

I>ll ask you again: have you actually read it?

[quote]More interestingly, he also quotes an article from a book published by
the Air University Press in the USA entitled "Low-Intensity Conflict
and Modern Technology", which says:

'Currently available data allow the projection that specially
generated radio frequency radiation (RFR) fields may pose powerful and
revolutionary military threats. Electroshock therapy indicates the
ability of induced electric current to completely interrupt mental
functioning for short periods of time, to obtain cognition for longer
periods and to restructure emotional response over prolonged
intervals.

'Experience with electroshock therapy, RFR experiments and the
increasing understanding of the brain as an electrically mediated
organ suggested the serious probability that impressed electromagnetic
fields can be disruptive to purposeful behavior and may be capable of
directing and or interrogating such behavior."
[/quote]
"Projection", "may", "indicates", "suggested", "probability", "may be".
That>s a lot of hypotheticals in two short paragraphs.

[quote]The book was edited by Lt. Col. David J Dean of the US Air Force (some
level of authority there!).
[/quote]
As a military analyst, it appears. One part of that job is to keep an
eye on the crackpot fringe, as insurance just in case something of real
military significance emerges. The fact that the USAF takes an interest
in a particular field isn>t an endorsement of it.

[quote]However this particular quote is taken
from a contribution included in the book which is entitled "The
Electromagnetic Spectrum in Low-Intensity Conflict", and is attributed
to a Paul Tyler.
[/quote]
So Colonel Dean>s authority is beside the point anyway.
[quote]
"Paul Tyler? Which Paul Tyler?", I hear you ask.
[/quote]
Wrong again. I couldn>t care less.

[...]
[quote]
I>d say that if it was the one who had led the US Air Force radiation
project then he may well have been writing with some "authority" on
the subject.

Wouldn>t you?

Possibly. Equally, he might just have been the senior manager who signed[/quote]
the funding requisitions.

But since what he so authoritatively states is no more than the obvious,
what difference does it make?

--
Richard Herring

gabydewilde · Guest

Hello Orwellian liemongers.

http://english.pravda.ru/science/tech/95965-0/#
Major-general of the reserve of the Russian Federal Custodial Service
Boris Ratnikov tells that Russia and other countries work on making
special devices that turn humans into zombies.

Boris Ratnikov says that Russia has been working on the psychotronic
impact upon humans since the 1920s. Until the mid-1980s secret centers
for investigation of psychic impact upon humans were working in large
cities of the country under the KGB’s patronage. Thousands of
brilliant researchers were working on the problem in the twenty secret
centers. After the break-up of the USSR the centers were closed and
the researchers either left abroad or currently work in various parts
of Russia.

Now that new technologies and the Internet are widely spreading people
must realize that the menace of psychic impact upon humans is really
immense. At the same time, the official science still insists that
psychotronic is mere charlatanry. Boris Ratnikov is sure however that
in less than ten years psychotronic weapons will grow more dangerous
than nuclear and atomic weapons.

On Oct 29, 4:05 am, "Don Kelly" <d...@shaw.ca> wrote:
[quote]
[snip] This is not my area of Electrical
Engineering expertise (which is in the low frequency range) but I have
sufficient exposure to little bit of science actually involved to seriously
question the statements that you quote and see them as being based on
unwarranted assumptions, [snip]
[/quote]
How orwellian.

On Oct 29, 8:32 am, Keith P Walsh <keith.p.wa...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
[quote]
[snip]

carrying out experimental investigations to determine whether
or not this claim is valid would not be "pseudoscience".

[snip]

what we>re actually debating here is not (Bill
Snyder take note) whether or not this can be done, but at what range
it can be done and, perhaps more importantly, to what precision of
effect.

[snip]

I also suspect that if I suggested that if anyone did actually succeed
in developing a device which they could use to influence other
people>s behavior to their own advantage they might choose to try and
do so secretly, then I may be accused of inventing what is commonly
known as a "conspiracy theory".
[/quote]
Assertions: Pseudoscience, not real, conspiracy theory, terrorist,
national securty etc etc

On Oct 29, 2:22 pm, Richard Herring <junk@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
[quote][snip]
I don>t know why you>re so obsessed with this patent. A patent is not a
scientific theory. The purpose of patent claims is to provide legal
documentation that the claimant can use to prove (in the legal sense)
that he had some idea first. [...]
[/quote]
How orwellian.

On Oct 29, 4:38 pm, Keith P Walsh <keith.p.wa...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
[quote]
I understand perfectly well what the function and status of a patent
document are.

[/quote]
A usenet group is a place where people post messages.

[quote][snip]

Sure you can sit around making up excuses for PRESUMING that the
invention won>t work without ever bothering to try (which is what I
think you>re doing).

But that isn>t science. It>s just guesswork.

Don Kelly is guilty of the same lazy thinking as you are.

On 22nd October he wrote:

"I have seen patents that were thinly disguised perpetual motion
machines and didn>t work."

So what?

[snip]

Bill Snyder thinks he has found
evidence of experiments which refute the claims of US patent 3951134.
[/quote]
How orwellian.

On Oct 29, 5:53 pm, Richard Herring <junk@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
[quote][...]
you think wrongly. The "invention" won>t work because *there is no
invention*, only speculation.

[/quote]
Truth by denial.

[quote][snip]

If by "invention" you mean some kind of an actual device for
"influencing brain activity remotely", then no, it does not. It contains
a mere speculative idea that some such device might be possible.
[/quote]
then say "BUT" right?

[quote]It
presents no evidence for believing that idea, and no details of how that
device might work.

[/quote]
How orwellian.

[quote][...]

When *you* set out to "find out in practice" you>ll soon discover why.
Here>s a hint: what kind of "compensating signal" is needed to "alter
the natural brain waves in a desired fashion", and what is the
relationship between those "natural brain waves" and the thoughts you
want to modify?
[/quote]
Like I said, usenet is a place where people post messages. What part
you don>t understand?

[quote]
[snip]

No means for determining
their validity is presented.

[/quote]
If I close my eyes I become invisible. True story!

[quote][snip]

No. As I said, patent applications are not scientific theories.

It is clearly to the patentee>s advantage to make as many speculative
claims as he can get away with, whether he believes them or not. If
someone else happens to validate them, he can claim the rewards without
investing his own time and money. Speculative patents are just as likely
to be the work of a cynic as a crackpot.

[/quote]
How orwellian.

On Oct 29, 6:19 pm, Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net> wrote:
[quote][snip
So you claim there>s some kind of "magic RF" which isn>t RF?
[snip]
[/quote]
How orwellian Billo.

On Oct 29, 6:16 pm, Richard Herring <junk@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
[quote]
... so more likely cynic than crackpot.

[/quote]
How orwellian.

On Oct 30, 1:00 am, mike <m....@irl.cri.replacethiswithnz> wrote:
[quote]
[snip Note that the tin-foil helmet won>t protect you from
any of these forms of mind control. Note also that my name does appear
as a claimant on a number of provisional and full patents, so surely my
claims must be taken seriously.
[/quote]
How orwellian.

On Oct 30, 4:03 am, "Don Kelly" <d...@shaw.ca> wrote:
[quote][snip]
There are many more assumptions-none of which have any basis given. In other
words, given assumption a, assumption b, ...... assumption z..... THEN such
and such is possible. The fact that the assumptions have no bases doesn>t
seem to matter.

Given all the lack of any real science behind this patent, do you wonder why
most would spend research funds and efforts in a direction which has a
slightly better chance of success (say 1 in 100 million). If you want to
support this with your funds - be free.

[/quote]
No no, usenet works perfeclt fine. It>s a place where teh peoples post
messages. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

On Oct 30, 9:28 am, Keith P Walsh <keith.p.wa...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
[quote][snip]

Remote EEG Discussion

By John McMurtrey MS

“Thought reading or ‘synthetic telepathy’” communications technology
procurement is considered in a 1993 Jane’s[a] Special Operations
Forces (SOF) article: “One day, SOF commandos may be capable of
communicating through thought processes.” Descriptive terms are
“’mental weaponry’ and psychic warfare” [1] Although contemplated in
future context, unlikely is development from scratch solely for
Special Forces, and availability of a technology not fully adapted to
troop level Special Forces requirements is implied.

In 1976 the Malech Patent # 3951134 “Apparatus and method for
remotely monitoring and altering brain waves” was granted. [2] Given
operation example is 100 and 210 MHz; frequencies penetrating
obstruction. Remote delineations are: “The individual components of
the system for monitoring and controlling brain wave activity may be
of conventional type commonly employed in radar”; and “The system
permits medical diagnosis of patients, inaccessible to physicians,
from remote stations.” License is to Dorne & Margolin Inc., but now
protection is expired with public domain.

The capability of remote EEG is predicted by electromagnetic
scattering theory using ultrashort pulses. [3] The Malech patent
utilizes interference of 210 and 100 MHz frequencies resulting in a
110 MHz return signal, which is demodulated to give EEG waveform.
Reference to ultrashort pulses without mention of another interfering
frequency indicates that these remote EEG references represent
different mechanisms, and therefore methods. Ultrashort pulses
currently have definition in the range of 10-15 second. Considering
that EEG word elicited potentials are comparatively long (100s of
milliseconds), has relevance to remote radar EEG capture adequate to
word recognition, with ultrashort pulses allowing greater than 109
radar reflections in a millisecond (10-3 sec.)

The possibility of impressing an ‘experience set’ on an individual is
also contemplated.3 The above patent also can alter brain waves.
Microwave non-lethal weapon brain wave disruption[4] and behavioral
change including unconsciousness[5] are known.[6]

The Malech EEG telemetry patent and ultrashort pulses represent active
radar probe. Yet a passive field extends as far as 12 feet from the
human as detected by a cryogenic antenna.[7] A publication maintains
this device as entirely adaptable to clandestine applications and
pointedly comments on the disappearance of physiological remote
sensing literature since the 1970’s for animals and humans, while all
other categories of remote sensing research greatly expanded.[8]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[a] Jane’s is the most respected and authoritative of defense
reporting services.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[1] Lopez R. “Special operations survives Pentagon budget constraints”
Jane’s International Defense Review 26(3): 247-51, 1993.

[2] Malech RG. Patent #3951134 “Apparatus and method for remotely
monitoring and altering brain waves” USPTO granted 4/20/76.

[3] Department of the Army, USAF Scientific Advisory Board. “New World
Vistas: air and space for the 21st century” 14 vol. (Ancillary Volume)
p 89-90, 1996.

[4] Morehouse DA. Nonlethal Weapons: War without Death Praeger, p. 20,
1996.

[5] Dando M. A New Form of Warfare: The Rise of Non-Lethal Weapons
Brassey’s, London, Washington p. 22, 1996.

[6] Becker RO. Cross Currents Jeremy P. Tarcher, Inc., Los Angeles, p.
303-4, 1990.

[7] Taff BE and Stoller KP. Patent #49400558 “Cryogenic ermote sensing
physiograph” USPTO granted 7/10/90.

[8] Stoller KP and Taff BE. “Remote Physiological Sensing: Historical
Perspective, Theories and Preliminary Developments” Med Instrum 20(5):
260-5, 1986.
[/quote]
On Oct 30, 10:57 am, Richard Herring <junk@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
[quote][snip]
Appeal to authority is a well-known rhetorical fallacy. Here you
don>t even appear to know whether your "authority" is authoritative.

[/quote]
How orwellian.

http://www.rockefeller.edu/research/area_summary.php?id=3

Teh Rockefeller neuroscience laboratories

Rockefeller scientists study the nervous system from many
perspectives, from the isolation of molecules and cells mediating
neural function and development, to the study of the cellular
ensembles engaged in high-level sensory processing, to the discovery
of mechanistic links between the biology of the brain and particular
behavioral states. In recent years, the university has added several
new laboratories in the neurosciences, mirroring the explosive growth
in the discipline as a whole.

Rockefeller neuroscience laboratories span the areas of molecular and
cellular neurobiology, sensory neuroscience and the neurobiology of
behavior. Topics of current investigation include, among many others:
the control of gene expression in neurons; the formation and
patterning of the embryonic vertebrate nervous system; circadian
rhythms; olfaction; the effects of experience and hormones on brain
plasticity; and the cortical mechanisms of visual perception.

http://books.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=12177
Emerging Cognitive Neuroscience and Related Technologies, from the
National Research Council, identifies and explores several specific
research areas that have implications for U.S. national security, and
should therefore be monitored consistently by the intelligence
community. These areas include:

1. neurophysiological advances in detecting and measuring
indicators of psychological states and intentions of individuals
2. the development of drugs or technologies that can alter human
physical or cognitive abilities
3. advances in real-time brain imaging
4. breakthroughs in high-performance computing and neuronal
modeling that could allow researchers to develop systems which mimic
functions of the human brain, particularly the ability to organize
disparate forms of data.

As these fields continue to grow, it will be imperative that the
intelligence community be able to identify scientific advances
relevant to national security when they occur.

HA, Those sexy Us American terrormongers.

Have you found the WMD>s already?

Let me make things really simple for you.

A brainwashes B

And

B brainwashes A

Both A and B will never present a real opponent, they are both immune
to the truth.

The force is very weak in both A and B.

You don>t want to sell me death sticks.

You want to go home and rethink your life.

:-)

gabydewilde · Guest

On Oct 31, 4:47 pm, Richard Herring <junk@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
[quote]
I see someone>s learned a new word.

[/quote]
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/
The topic of mind control is elaborate, multifaceted, and multi
layered. For the casual reader, it can quickly become numbing,
overwhelming the senses and creating a desire to exit the topic, but
avoiding this subject is the most foolish thing you could possibly do
since your only chance of surviving this hideous and insidious
enslavement agenda, which today threatens virtually all of humanity,
isto understand how it functions and take steps to reduce your
vulnerability.

The plans to create a mind controlled workers society have been in
place for a long time. The current technology grew out of experiments
that the Nazis started before World War II and intensified during the
time of the Nazi concentration camps when an unlimited supply of
children and adults were available for experimentation. We>ve heard
about the inhumane medical experiments performed on concentration camp
prisoners, but no word was ever mentioned by the media and the TV
documentaries of the mind control experiments. That was not to be
divulged to the American public. Mind control technologies can be
broadly divided into two subsets: trauma-based or electronic-based.

The first phase of government mind control development grew out of the
old occult techniques which required the victim to be exposed to
massive psychological and physical trauma, usually beginning in
infancy, in order to cause the psyche to shatter into a thousand alter
personalities which can then be separately programmed to perform any
function (or job) that the programmer wishes to"install". Each alter
personality created is separate and distinct from the front
personality. The 'front personality' is unaware of the existence or
activities of the alter personalities. Alter personalities can be
brought to the surface by programmers or handlers using special codes,
usually stored in a laptop computer. The victim of mind control can
also be affected by specific sounds, words, or actions known as
triggers.

The second phase of mind control development was refined at an
underground base below Fort Hero on Montauk , Long Island (New York)
and is referred to as the Montauk Project. The earliest adolescent
victims of Montauk style programming, so called Montauk Boys, were
programmed using trauma-based techniques, but that method was
eventually abandoned in favor of an all-electronic induction process
which could be "installed" in a matter of days (or even hours) instead
of the many years that it took to complete trauma-based methods.

Dr. Joseph Mengele of Auschwitz notoriety was the principle developer
of the trauma-basedMonarch Project and the CIA>sMK Ultra mind control
programs. Mengele and approximately 5, 000 other high ranking Nazis
were secretly moved into the United States and South America in the
aftermath of World War II in an Operation designated Paperclip. The
Nazis continued their work in developing mind control and rocketry
technologies in secret underground military bases. The only thing we
were told about was the rocketry work with former Nazi star
celebrities like Warner Von Braun. The killers, torturers, and
mutilators of innocent human beings were kept discretely out of sight,
but busy in U.S. underground military facilities which gradually
became home to thousands upon thousands of kidnapped American
children snatched off the streets (about one million per year) and
placed into iron bar cages stacked from floor to ceiling as part of
the 'training'. These children would be used to further refine and
perfect Mengele>s mind control technologies. Certain selected children
(at least the ones who survived the 'training') would become future
mind controlled slaves who could be used for thousands of different
jobs ranging anywhere from sexual slavery to assassinations. A
substantial portion of these children, who were considered expendable,
were intentionally slaughtered in front of (and by) the other children
in order to traumatize the selected trainee into total compliance and
submission.

Read moar:
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/

gabydewilde · Guest

On Oct 31, 6:50 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
[quote]gabydewilde wrote:

[snip cap]

Major-general of the reserve of the Russian Federal Custodial Service
Boris Ratnikov tells that Russia and other countries work on making
special devices that turn humans into zombies.

[snip rest of crap]

1) It>s been done - by niggers.
2) MK ULTRA
3) Republicans
4) idiot

[/quote]
Thanks for the help desking Al. We all like to think you are naturally
gifted, but of course we will never know and deny everything.

short overview
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5842900522324963929

Teh actual brain wave overview.
http://www.bevolution.dk/pdf/Brainwave%20Model%20New.pdf

Morphine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhcR1ZS2hVo

the advantages of being a zombie
http://petervallone.net/cblog/?/archives/22-Why-I-Like-Being-a-Zombie..html

Miss Hilton will be returning home to Los Angeles just in time for the
exciting Halloween holiday celebrations, as she’s always up for a
great theme party.
http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/paris-hilton-heads-home-for-halloween-208665/

john271008 · Guest

On Oct 31, 11:44 am, gabydewilde <fotot...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 31, 6:50 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:

gabydewilde wrote:

[snip cap]

Major-general of the reserve of the Russian Federal Custodial Service
Boris Ratnikov tells that Russia and other countries work on making
special devices that turn humans into zombies.

[snip rest of crap]

1) It>s been done - by niggers.
2) MK ULTRA
3) Republicans
4) idiot

Thanks for the help desking Al. We all like to think you are naturally
gifted, but of course we will never know and deny everything.

short overviewhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5842900522324963929

Teh actual brain wave overview.http://www.bevolution.dk/pdf/Brainwave%20Model%20New.pdf

Morphinehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhcR1ZS2hVo

the advantages of being a zombiehttp://petervallone.net/cblog/?/archives/22-Why-I-Like-Being-a-Zombie...

Miss Hilton will be returning home to Los Angeles just in time for the
exciting Halloween holiday celebrations, as she’s always up for a
great theme party.http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/paris-hilton-he...
[/quote]
gaby, can you please learn to spell 'more'?
john

Richard Herring · Guest

In message
<8e257074-d027-4e9a-baa5-a31638fbfb39@s9g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
gabydewilde <fototour@gmail.com> writes
[quote]Hello Orwellian liemongers.
[/quote]
I see someone>s learned a new word.

--
Richard Herring

Uncle Al · Guest

gabydewilde wrote:
[snip cap]

[quote]Major-general of the reserve of the Russian Federal Custodial Service
Boris Ratnikov tells that Russia and other countries work on making
special devices that turn humans into zombies.
[snip rest of crap][/quote]

1) It>s been done - by niggers.
2) MK ULTRA
3) Republicans
4) idiot

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

Guest

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:53:11 +0200, in
sci.physics.computational.fluid-dynamics Jan Gerrit Kootstra
<jan.gerrit@kootstra.org.uk> wrote:

[quote]In some countries engineers are also considered Scientists, and if you
would have started the survey you would have seen the engineer as a
class to specify.

So read before you reply.
[/quote]
Actually, I find that even more condescending. Apparently according to the
choices prescribed by the originators of the survey Scientists do research,
but Engineers don>t.

gabydewilde · Guest

On Oct 31, 7:13 pm, john271008 <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
[quote]
gaby, can you please learn to spell 'more'?

[/quote]
Do you always talk bullshit like this?

jmfbahciv · Guest

Richard Herring wrote:
[quote]In message
8e257074-d027-4e9a-baa5-a31638fbfb39@s9g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
gabydewilde <fototour@gmail.com> writes
Hello Orwellian liemongers.

I see someone>s learned a new word.

"hello"?[/quote]

/BAH

Herbert Brandt · Guest

gabydewilde schrieb:
[quote]On Oct 31, 7:13 pm, john271008 <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
gaby, can you please learn to spell 'more'?

Do you always talk bullshit like this?

Kake this, DUDE :[/quote]

John St. Clair Akwei vs.
NSA, Ft. Meade, MD, USA

Table of Contents

Cover Page
NSA Mission & Operations
Communications Intelligence
Signals Intelligence
Domestic Intelligence
Independently Operating Personnel Target Citizens
NSA>s Domestic Electronic Surveillance Network
Signals Intelligence Remote Computer Tampering
Detecting EMF Fields in Humans for Surveillance
NSA Signals Intelligence Use of EMF Brain Stimulatlon
Capabilities of NSA operatives using RNM
NSA Signals Intelligence Electronic Brain Link Technology
Table: An example of EMF Brain Stimulation
NSA Techniques and Resources
Remote RNM Devices
Spotters and Walk-Bys in Metropolitan Areas
Chemicals and Drugs
Intelligence/Anti-Terrorist Equipment
Resources
Further Resources

Cover Page

Evidence for the Lawsuit filed at the US courthouse in Washington, D.C.
(Civil Action 92-0449)

John St.Clair Akwei vs. NSA Ft George G. Meade, MD

My knowledge of the National Security Agency>s structure, national
security activities, proprietary technology,and covert operations to
monitor individual citizens.

Table of Contents

The NSA>s mission and
the NSA>s domestic Intelligence operation.

Communications Intelligence (COMINT)

Blanket coverage of all electronic communication in the U.S.
and the world to ensure national security. The NSA at Ft. Meade,
Maryland has had the most advanced computers in the world since the
early 1960>s. NSA technology is developed and implemented in secret from
private corporations, academia, and the general public.

Signals Intelligence (SIGINT)

The Signals Intelligence mission of the NSA has evolved into a
program of decoding EMF waves in the environment for wirelessly tapping
into computers and tracking persons with the electrical currents in
their bodies. Signals Intelligence is based on the fact that everything
in the environment with an electric current in it has a magnetic flux
around it which gives off EMF waves. The NSA/DoD has developed
proprietary advanced digital equipment which can remotely analyze all
objects whether man-made or organic that have electrical activity.

Domestic Intelligence (DOMINT)

The NSA has records on all U.S. citizens. The NSA gathers
information on U.S. citizens who might be of interest to any of the over
50,000 NSA agents (HUMINT). These agents are authorized by executive
order to spy on anyone. The NSA has a permanent National Security
Anti-Terrorist surveillance network in place. This surveillance network
is completely disguised and hidden from the public.

Tracking individuals in the U.S. is easily and cost-effectively
implemented with the NSA>s electronic surveillance network. This network
(DOMINT) covers the entire U.S., involves tens of thousands of NSA
personnel, and tracks millions of persons simultaneously. Cost effective
implementation of operations is assured by NSA computer technology
designed to minimize operations costs.

NSA personnel serve in Quasi-public positions in their communities
and run cover businesses and legitimate businesses that can inform the
intelligence community of persons they would want to track. N.S.A.
personnel in the community usually have cover identities such as social
workers, lawyers and business owners.
Individual citizens occasionally targeted for surveillance
by independently operating NSA personnel.

NSA personnel can control the lives of hundreds of thousands of
individuals in the U.S. by using the NSA>s domestic intelligence network
and cover businesses. The operations independently run by them can
sometimes go beyond the bounds of law. Long-term control and sabotage of
tens of thousands of unwitting citizens by NSA operatives is likely to
happen. NSA Domint has the ability to covertly assassinate U.S. citizens
or run covert psychological control operations to cause subjects to be
diagnosed with ill mental health.

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NSA>s domestic electronic surveillance network

As of the early 1960>s the most advanced computers in the world
were at the NSA, Ft. Meade. Research breakthroughs with these computers
were kept for the NSA. At the present time the NSA has nanotechnology
computers that are 15 years ahead of present computer technology.

The NSA obtains blanket coverage of information in the U.S. by
using advanced computers that use artificial intelligence to screen all
communications, irregardless of medium, for key words that should be
brought to the attention of NSA agents/cryptologists. These computers
monitor all communications at the transmitting and receiving ends. This
blanket coverage of the U.S. is a result of the NSA>s Signals
Intelligence (SIGINT) mission.

The NSA>s electronic surveillance network is based on a cellular
arrangement of devices that can monitor the entire EMF spectrum. This
equipment was developed, implemented, and kept secret in the same manner
as other electronic warfare programs.

With this technology NSA personnel can non-obtrusively tap into any
communication device in existence. This includes computers, telephones,
radio and video-based devices, printers, car electronics, and even the
minute electrical fields in humans (for tracking individuals).
Signals Intelligence Remote Computer Tampering

The NSA keeps track of all PCs and other computers sold in the U.S.
This is an integral part of the Domestic Intelligence network.

The NSA>s EMF equipment can tune in RF emissions from personal
computer circuit boards (while filtering out emissions from monitors and
power supplies). The RF emission from PC circuit boards contains digital
information in the PC. Coded RF waves from the NSA>s equipment can
resonate PC circuits and change data in the PC>s. Thus the NSA can gain
wireless modem-style entry into any computer in the country for
surveillance or anti-terrorist electronic warfare.

Radio and Television signals can be substituted at the receiving
end with special EMF equipment. Replacing signals in Radios and
Televisions is another outgrowth of the NSA>s Signals Intelligence
(SIGINT) mission.
Detecting EMF Fields in Humans for Surveillance.

A subject>s bioelectric field can be remotely detected, so subjects
can be monitored anywhere they are. With special EMF equipment NSA
cryptologists can remotely read evoked potentials (from EEGs). These can
be decoded into a person>s brain-states and thoughts. The subject is
then perfectly monitored from a distance.

NSA personnel can dial up any individual in the country on the
Signals lntelligence EMF scanning network and the NSA>s computers will
then pinpoint and track that person 24 hours-a-day. The NSA can pick out
and track anyone in the U.S.

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NSA Signals Intelligence Use of EMF Brain Stimulation

NSA Signals Intelligence uses EMF Brain Stimulation for Remote
Neural Monitoring (RNM) and Electronic Brain Link (EBL). EMF Brain
Stimulation has been in development since the MKUltra program of the
early 1950>s, which included neurological research into "radiation"
(non-ionizing EMF) and bioelectric research and development. The
resulting secret technology is categorized at the National Security
Archives as "Radiation Intelligence," defined as "information from
unintentionally emanated electromagnetic waves in the environment, not
including radioactivity or nuclear detonation."

Signals Intelligence implemented and kept this technology secret in
the same manner as other electronic warfare programs of the U.S.
government. The NSA monitors available information about this technology
and withholds scientific research from the public. There are also
international intelligence agency agreements to keep this technology secret.

The NSA has proprietary electronic equipment that analyzes
electrical activity in humans from a distance. NSA computer-generated
brain mapping can continuously monitor all the electrical activity in
die brain continuously. The NSA records aid decodes individual brain
maps (of hundreds of thousands of persons) for national security
purposes. EMF Brain Stimulation is also secretly used by the military
for Brain-to-computer link. (In military fighter aircraft, for example.)

For electronic surveillance purposes electrical activity in the
speech center of the brain can be translated into the subject>s verbal
thoughts. RNM can send encoded signals to the brain>s auditory cortex
thus allowing audio communication direct to the brain (bypassing the
ears). NSA operatives can use this to covertly debilitate subjects by
simulating auditory hallucinations characteristic of paranoid schizophrenia.

Without any contact with the subject, Remote Neural Monitoring can
map out electrical activity from the visual cortex of a subject>s brain
and show images from the subject>s brain on a video monitor. NSA
operatives see what the surveillance subject>s eyes are seeing. Visual
memory can also be seen. RNM can send images direct to the visual
cortex. bypassing the eyes and optic nerves. NSA operatives can use this
to surreptitiously put images in a surveillance subject>s brain while
they are in R.E.M. sleep for brain-programming purposes.

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Capabilities of NSA operatives using RNM

There has been a Signals Intelligence network in the U.S. since the
1940>s. The NSA, Ft. Meade has in place a vast two-way wireless RNM
system which is used to track subjects and non-invasively monitor
audio-visual information in their brain. This is all done with no
physical contact with the subject. RNM is the ultimate method of
surveillance and domestic intelligence. Speech and 3D sound, and
subliminal audio can be sent to the auditory cortex of the subject>s
brain (bypassing the ears) and images can be sent into the visual
cortex. RNM can alter a subject>s perceptions, moods, and motor control.

Speech cortex/auditory cortex link has become the ultimate
communications system for the intelligence community. RNM allows for a
complete audio-visual brain-to-brain link or brain-to-computer link.

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National Security Agency Signals Intelligence
Electronic Brain Link Technology

NSA SigInt can remotely detect, identify and monitor a person>s
bioelectric fields.

The NSA>s Signals Intelligence has the proprietary ability to
remotely and non-invasively monitor information in the human brain by
digitally decoding the evoked potentials in the 30-50 hz, .5 milliwatt
electro-magnetic emissions from the brain.

Neuronal activity in the brain creates a shifting electrical
pattern that has a shifting magnetic flux. This magnetic flux puts out a
constant 30-50 hz, .5 milliwatt electromagnetic (EMF) wave. Contained in
the electromagnetic emission from the brain are spikes and patterns
called "evoked potentials."

Every thought, reaction, motor command, auditory event, and visual
image in the brain has a corresponding "evoked potential" or set of
"evoked potentials." The EMF emission from the brain can be decoded into
the current thoughts, images and sounds in the subject>s brain.

NSA SigInt uses EMF-transmitted Brain Stimulation as a
communications system to transmit information (as well as nervous system
messages) to intelligence agents and also to transmit to the brains of
covert operations subjects (on a non-perceptible level).

EMF Brain Stimulation works by sending a complexly coded and pulsed
electromagnetic signal to trigger evoked potentials (events) in the
brain, thereby forming sound and visual images in the brain>s neural
circuits. EMF Brain Stimulation can also change a person>s brain-states
and affect motor control.

Two-way Electronic Brain-Link is done by remotely monitoring neural
audio-visual information while transmitting sound to the auditory cortex
(bypassing the ears) and transmitting faint images to the visual cortex
(bypassing the optic nerves and eyes, the images appear as floating 2-D
screens in the brain).

Two-Way Electronic Brain Link has become the ultimate
communications system for CIA/NSA personnel. Remote Neural Monitoring
(RNM, remotely monitoring bioelectric information in the human brain)
has become the ultimate surveillance system. It is used by a limited
number of agents in the U.S. Intelligence Community.

RNM requires decoding the resonance frequency of each specific
brain area. That frequency is then modulated in order to impose
information in That specific brain area. The frequency to which the
various brain areas respond varies from 3 Hz to 50 Hz. Only NSA Signals
Intelligence modulates signals in this frequency band.

An example of EMF Brain Stimulation:

Brain Area

Bioelectric
Resonance
Frequency

Information Induced
Through Modulation
Motor Control Cortex

10 HZ
Motor Impulse Co-ordination
Auditory Cortex

15 HZ
Sound which bypasses the ears
Visual Cortex

25 HZ
Images in the brain, bypassing the eyes
Somatosensory Cortex

09 HZ
Phantom Touch Sense
Thought Center

20 HZ
Imposed Subconscious Thoughts

This modulated information can be put into the brain at varying
intensities from subliminal to perceptible.

Each person>s brain has a unique set of bioelectric
resonance/entrainment frequencies. Sending audio information to a
person>s brain at the frequency of another person>s auditory cortex
would result in that audio information not being perceived.

The Plaintiff learned of RNM by being in two-way RNM contact with
the Kinnecome group at the NSA, Ft. Meade. They used RNM 3D sound direct
to the brain to harass the Plaintiff from 10/90 to 5/91. As of 5/91 they
have had two-way RNM communications with the Plaintiff and have used RNM
to attempt to incapacitate the Plaintiff and hinder the Plaintiff from
going to authorities about their activities against the Plaintiff in the
last twelve years.

The Kinnecome group has about 100 persons working 24-hours-a-day at
Ft Meade. They have also brain-tapped persons the Plaintiff is in
contact with to keep the Plaintiff isolated. This is the first time ever
that a private citizen has been harassed with RNM and has been able to
bring a lawsuit against NSA personnel misusing this intelligence
operations method.

Table of Contents

NSA Techniques and Resources

Remote monitoring/tracking of individuals in any location. inside
any building, continuously, anywhere in the country.

A system for inexpensive implementation of these operations allows
for thousands of persons in every community to be spied on constantly by
the NSA.
Remote RNM Devices

a) NSA>s RNM equipment remotely reads the evoked potentials
(EEGs) of the human brain for tracking individuals and can send messages
through the nervous system to affect their performance.

b) [Information missing from original]

c) RNM can electronically identify individuals and track then
anywhere in the U.S. This equipment is on a network and is used for
domestic intelligence operations, government security, and military base
security, and in case of bioelectric warfare.

Spotters and Walk-Bys in Metropolitan Areas

a) Tens of thousands of persons in each area working as
spotters and neighborhood/business place spies (sometimes unwittingly)
following and checking on subjects who have been identified for covert
control by NSA personnel.

b) Agents working out of offices can be in constant
communication with Spotters who are keeping track of the NSA>s thousands
of subjects in public.

c) NSA Agents in remote offices can instantly identify (using
RNM) any individual spotted in public whom is in contact with
surveillance subject.

Chemicals and Drugs into Residential Buildings with
hidden NSA-lnstalled and maintained plastic plumbing lines.

a) The NSA has kits for running lines into residential tap
water and air ducts of subjects for the delivery of drugs (such as
sleeping gas or brainwashing aiding drugs). This is an outgrowth of CIA
pharmapsychology.

Brief Overview of Proprietary U.S.
Intelligence/Anti-Terrorist Equipment Mentioned.

Fixed network of special EMF equipment that can read EEGs in
human brains and identify/track individuals by using digital computers.
ESB (Electrical Stimulation to the Brain) via EMF signal from the NSA
Signals Intelligence is used to control subjects.

EMF equipment that gathers information from PC circuit boards
by deciphering RF emissions thereby gaining wireless modem-style entry
into any personal computer in the country.

All equipment hidden, all technology secret, all scientific
research unreported (as in electronic warfare research).

Not known to the public at all, yet complete and thorough
implementation of this method of domestic intelligence has been in place
since the early 1980>s.

Herbert


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