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Eustace Bagg · Guest

Looks like you negroes have pissed off a journalist big
time.

E.B.

A teacher>s baptism by fire
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-leslie12.html

Four years ago, after 25 years in journalism, Leslie
Baldacci quit her prestigious job as a columnist for the
Chicago Sun-Times and became a teacher in the Chicago Public
Schools. Thanks to an innovative program called Teachers for
Chicago that allows career-changers to bypass much of the
usual teacher certification process, she was assigned that
very fall to teach a class of seventh-graders in a poorly
performing Roseland school. In her book Inside Mrs. B>s
Classroom (McGraw-Hill, $22.95), Baldacci tells the story of
her first two years as a teacher. It was an exhausting,
inspiring, harrowing time. Here is a series of excerpts from
her book.

....Baldacci writes that her classroom was hardly unique. It
was more like "one deck chair on the Titanic."

The same sort of disorder existed at other schools in our
city and had for a long time. The kids ran wild. They swore,
fought, refused to work. At assemblies they booed the
principal. The only punishment was suspension and that
wasn>t so terrible. As one of my students, Cortez, put it,
"At least it>s better than having to come up here and look
at your ugly ass."

The school was a microcosm of the neighborhood. Pregnancy,
drugs and alcohol were part of the life experience of
children 13 and 14 years old. Parents had their own issues.
Lives were consumed by the relentless stress and woe of
poverty. Violence was omnipresent. The summer before, a
serial killer had murdered prostitutes and left their bodies
in abandoned houses. ...

Byron Canfield · Guest

"Eustace Bagg" <Bagg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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[quote]Looks like you negroes have pissed off a journalist big
time.

E.B.

A teacher>s baptism by fire
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-leslie12.html

Four years ago, after 25 years in journalism, Leslie
Baldacci quit her prestigious job as a columnist for the
Chicago Sun-Times and became a teacher in the Chicago Public
Schools. Thanks to an innovative program called Teachers for
Chicago that allows career-changers to bypass much of the
usual teacher certification process, she was assigned that
very fall to teach a class of seventh-graders in a poorly
performing Roseland school. In her book Inside Mrs. B>s
Classroom (McGraw-Hill, $22.95), Baldacci tells the story of
her first two years as a teacher. It was an exhausting,
inspiring, harrowing time. Here is a series of excerpts from
her book.

...Baldacci writes that her classroom was hardly unique. It
was more like "one deck chair on the Titanic."

The same sort of disorder existed at other schools in our
city and had for a long time. The kids ran wild. They swore,
fought, refused to work. At assemblies they booed the
principal. The only punishment was suspension and that
wasn>t so terrible. As one of my students, Cortez, put it,
"At least it>s better than having to come up here and look
at your ugly ass."

The school was a microcosm of the neighborhood. Pregnancy,
drugs and alcohol were part of the life experience of
children 13 and 14 years old. Parents had their own issues.
Lives were consumed by the relentless stress and woe of
poverty. Violence was omnipresent. The summer before, a
serial killer had murdered prostitutes and left their bodies
in abandoned houses. ...

Looks like you>re just another ignorant racist so driven by your fear that[/quote]
all you can do is draw silly conclusions in order to spread your messages of
bigotry and hatred.

--
"There are 10 kinds of people in the world:
those who understand binary numbers and those who don>t."
-----------------------------
Byron "Barn" Canfield

Mudda Lann Newz Servus · Guest

"Byron Canfield" <barnNOSPAM@NOSPAMbyronc.com> wrote in message
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[quote]"Eustace Bagg" <Bagg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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Looks like you negroes have pissed off a journalist big
time.

E.B.

A teacher>s baptism by fire
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-leslie12.html

Four years ago, after 25 years in journalism, Leslie
Baldacci quit her prestigious job as a columnist for the
Chicago Sun-Times and became a teacher in the Chicago Public
Schools. Thanks to an innovative program called Teachers for
Chicago that allows career-changers to bypass much of the
usual teacher certification process, she was assigned that
very fall to teach a class of seventh-graders in a poorly
performing Roseland school. In her book Inside Mrs. B>s
Classroom (McGraw-Hill, $22.95), Baldacci tells the story of
her first two years as a teacher. It was an exhausting,
inspiring, harrowing time. Here is a series of excerpts from
her book.

...Baldacci writes that her classroom was hardly unique. It
was more like "one deck chair on the Titanic."

The same sort of disorder existed at other schools in our
city and had for a long time. The kids ran wild. They swore,
fought, refused to work. At assemblies they booed the
principal. The only punishment was suspension and that
wasn>t so terrible. As one of my students, Cortez, put it,
"At least it>s better than having to come up here and look
at your ugly ass."

The school was a microcosm of the neighborhood. Pregnancy,
drugs and alcohol were part of the life experience of
children 13 and 14 years old. Parents had their own issues.
Lives were consumed by the relentless stress and woe of
poverty. Violence was omnipresent. The summer before, a
serial killer had murdered prostitutes and left their bodies
in abandoned houses. ...

Looks like you>re just another ignorant racist so driven by your fear that
all you can do is draw silly conclusions in order to spread your messages
of
bigotry and hatred.
[/quote]
the truth hurts, doesn>t it ?

--
the truth of the matter is that your race is a failed race, one that cannot
compete on a level playing field

tell me......how does it feel to know that whatever job you get, whatever
college you get admitted to, whatever promotion you get, you know deep,
deep down that it>s not on merit, it>s because the race-baiting
whore-masters such as Jackson, Sharpton, Mfume have sold you out for their
40 pieces of silver, a.k.a. 'affirmative action' ?

does it make you feel good, or does it give another gut-punch to the solar
plexus of your self-esteem, so that in another couple years, you will be
whining, bitching, crying for 'more affirmative action' ?

well, how does it feel..........BOY ?????

Magi D. Shepley · Guest

Why bother, Byron? They haven>t read the book or the excerpts. I doubt
they even read the entire article (which has excerpts in it), and
clearly shows that the woman cared about her charges and didn>t quit or
say this happened because they were Black.

Magi

Byron Canfield wrote:
[quote]Looks like you>re just another ignorant racist so driven by your fear that
all you can do is draw silly conclusions in order to spread your messages of
bigotry and hatred.

[/quote]

Eustace Bagg · Guest

"Magi D. Shepley"
<magid@catsincyberspace.concentriccircles.net> wrote in
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[quote]Why bother, Byron? They haven>t read the book or the
excerpts. I doubt
they even read the entire article (which has excerpts in
it), and
clearly shows that the woman cared about her charges and
didn>t quit or
say this happened because they were Black.
[/quote]
She probably loves niggers, why else give up 2/3 of your
salary to try to teach them something.
She can love them all she wants, and if she prefers to waste
her time trying to educate them, that is her business.
Just don>t force that on me, okay?

E.B.

[quote]Byron Canfield wrote:
Looks like you>re just another ignorant racist so driven
by your fear that
all you can do is draw silly conclusions in order to
spread your messages of
bigotry and hatred.

[/quote]

Eustace Bagg · Guest

"Byron Canfield" <barnNOSPAM@NOSPAMbyronc.com> wrote in
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[quote]"Eustace Bagg" <Bagg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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Looks like you negroes have pissed off a journalist big
time.

E.B.

A teacher>s baptism by fire

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-leslie12.html

Four years ago, after 25 years in journalism, Leslie
Baldacci quit her prestigious job as a columnist for the
Chicago Sun-Times and became a teacher in the Chicago
Public
Schools. Thanks to an innovative program called Teachers
for
Chicago that allows career-changers to bypass much of
the
usual teacher certification process, she was assigned
that
very fall to teach a class of seventh-graders in a
poorly
performing Roseland school. In her book Inside Mrs. B>s
Classroom (McGraw-Hill, $22.95), Baldacci tells the
story of
her first two years as a teacher. It was an exhausting,
inspiring, harrowing time. Here is a series of excerpts
from
her book.

...Baldacci writes that her classroom was hardly unique.
It
was more like "one deck chair on the Titanic."

The same sort of disorder existed at other schools in
our
city and had for a long time. The kids ran wild. They
swore,
fought, refused to work. At assemblies they booed the
principal. The only punishment was suspension and that
wasn>t so terrible. As one of my students, Cortez, put
it,
"At least it>s better than having to come up here and
look
at your ugly ass."

The school was a microcosm of the neighborhood.
Pregnancy,
drugs and alcohol were part of the life experience of
children 13 and 14 years old. Parents had their own
issues.
Lives were consumed by the relentless stress and woe of
poverty. Violence was omnipresent. The summer before, a
serial killer had murdered prostitutes and left their
bodies
in abandoned houses. ...

Looks like you>re just another ignorant racist so driven
by your fear that
all you can do is draw silly conclusions in order to
spread your messages of
bigotry and hatred.
[/quote]
Do you think I>m the only one drawing the obvious
conclusion?
Only negroes and brainwashed negro apologists could draw a
different conclusion.
And there aren>t that many of them.

E.B.

[quote]--
"There are 10 kinds of people in the world:
those who understand binary numbers and those who don>t."
-----------------------------
Byron "Barn" Canfield

[/quote]

Guest · Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:10 am Post subject: Re: Tales from da hood

Byron Canfield wrote:
[quote]
"Eustace Bagg" <Bagg@nowhere.net> wrote in message

A teacher>s baptism by fire
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-leslie12.html

Four years ago, after 25 years in journalism, Leslie
Baldacci quit her prestigious job as a columnist for the
Chicago Sun-Times and became a teacher in the Chicago Public
Schools.
...Baldacci writes that her classroom was hardly unique. It
was more like "one deck chair on the Titanic."

Looks like you>re just another ignorant racist so driven by your fear that
all you can do is draw silly conclusions in order to spread your messages of
bigotry and hatred.
[/quote]
Byron>z deck chair on the Titanic haz a louzy view
of the IQ-75_Icebergz...

Guest · Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Tales from da hood

"Magi D. Shepley" wrote:
[quote]
Why bother, Byron? They haven>t read the book or the excerpts. I doubt
they even read the entire article (which has excerpts in it), and
clearly shows that the woman cared about her charges and didn>t quit or
say this happened because they were Black.
[/quote]
Multiple choice test --

The smartest passengers on the Titanic were in:

A. Deck Chairz

B. Lifeboats

Donna Metler · Guest

"Eustace Bagg" <Bagg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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[quote]
"Magi D. Shepley"
magid@catsincyberspace.concentriccircles.net> wrote in
message
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Why bother, Byron? They haven>t read the book or the
excerpts. I doubt
they even read the entire article (which has excerpts in
it), and
clearly shows that the woman cared about her charges and
didn>t quit or
say this happened because they were Black.

She probably loves niggers, why else give up 2/3 of your
salary to try to teach them something.
She can love them all she wants, and if she prefers to waste
her time trying to educate them, that is her business.
Just don>t force that on me, okay?
Or, maybe, just maybe, she stayed because she found, as I have over the past[/quote]
decade, that given a chance to learn, these students can, and do, learn. Or
is that too hard for your mind to grasp. You see, just as flowers can grow
between cracks in a sidewalk, learning can happen in the inner city. It just
takes someone who is dedicated and motivated to do it.

And, you know what? Long-term, I>d put my inner city kids up against ones
taught by you any day. Because my students know what is waiting for them if
they fail. And they know, unlike you, that failure is not so much a matter
of skin color, but of effort and desire.

I have yet to see a student who wants to learn and who tries fail
completely. This includes inner city kids, homeless kids, kids who come to
school with no English at all and live in homes where no English is spoken,
and kids with some pretty severe disabilities. They may not succeed at the
1st thing they try, or the fourth, or the 5th, but eventually, they>ll find
something that they can do, and be proud of doing.

[quote]
E.B.

Byron Canfield wrote:
Looks like you>re just another ignorant racist so driven
by your fear that
all you can do is draw silly conclusions in order to
spread your messages of
bigotry and hatred.

[/quote]

Eustace Bagg · Guest

"Donna Metler" <dmmetler@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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[quote]
"Eustace Bagg" <Bagg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:3f89a090_2@newspeer2.tds.net...

"Magi D. Shepley"
magid@catsincyberspace.concentriccircles.net> wrote in
message

news:3F899D9F.6080507@catsincyberspace.concentriccircles.net...
Why bother, Byron? They haven>t read the book or the
excerpts. I doubt
they even read the entire article (which has excerpts
in
it), and
clearly shows that the woman cared about her charges
and
didn>t quit or
say this happened because they were Black.

She probably loves niggers, why else give up 2/3 of your
salary to try to teach them something.
She can love them all she wants, and if she prefers to
waste
her time trying to educate them, that is her business.
Just don>t force that on me, okay?
Or, maybe, just maybe, she stayed because she found, as I
have over the past
decade, that given a chance to learn, these students can,
and do, learn. Or
is that too hard for your mind to grasp. You see, just as
flowers can grow
between cracks in a sidewalk, learning can happen in the
inner city. It just
takes someone who is dedicated and motivated to do it.

And, you know what? Long-term, I>d put my inner city kids
up against ones
taught by you any day. Because my students know what is
waiting for them if
they fail. And they know, unlike you, that failure is not
so much a matter
of skin color, but of effort and desire.
[/quote]
Yeah right. If you are teaching negroes in an inner city
school, I wouldn>t be too
quick to put your charges up against anybody elses'.

Please, find your state and tell us how DAFNz stack up
against whitey.
http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/naepdata/search.asp

[quote]I have yet to see a student who wants to learn and who
tries fail
completely. This includes inner city kids, homeless kids,
kids who come to
school with no English at all and live in homes where no
English is spoken,
and kids with some pretty severe disabilities. They may
not succeed at the
1st thing they try, or the fourth, or the 5th, but
eventually, they>ll find
something that they can do, and be proud of doing.
[/quote]
What do you teach, special education?

E.B.

[quote]
E.B.

Byron Canfield wrote:
Looks like you>re just another ignorant racist so
driven
by your fear that
all you can do is draw silly conclusions in order to
spread your messages of
bigotry and hatred.

[/quote]

Clever Nym · Guest

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:29:01 -0500, "Eustace Bagg" <Bagg@nowhere.net>
wrote:

[quote]Looks like you negroes have pissed off a journalist big
time.

E.B.

A teacher>s baptism by fire
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-leslie12.html

Four years ago, after 25 years in journalism, Leslie
Baldacci quit her prestigious job as a columnist for the
Chicago Sun-Times and became a teacher in the Chicago Public
Schools. Thanks to an innovative program called Teachers for
Chicago that allows career-changers to bypass much of the
usual teacher certification process, she was assigned that
very fall to teach a class of seventh-graders in a poorly
performing Roseland school. In her book Inside Mrs. B>s
Classroom (McGraw-Hill, $22.95), Baldacci tells the story of
her first two years as a teacher. It was an exhausting,
inspiring, harrowing time. Here is a series of excerpts from
her book.

...Baldacci writes that her classroom was hardly unique. It
was more like "one deck chair on the Titanic."

The same sort of disorder existed at other schools in our
city and had for a long time. The kids ran wild. They swore,
fought, refused to work. At assemblies they booed the
principal. The only punishment was suspension and that
wasn>t so terrible. As one of my students, Cortez, put it,
"At least it>s better than having to come up here and look
at your ugly ass."

The school was a microcosm of the neighborhood. Pregnancy,
drugs and alcohol were part of the life experience of
children 13 and 14 years old. Parents had their own issues.
Lives were consumed by the relentless stress and woe of
poverty. Violence was omnipresent. The summer before, a
serial killer had murdered prostitutes and left their bodies
in abandoned houses. ...

[/quote]
trip trap, trip trap..

How many billy goats you eat today old bagg?

Byron Canfield · Guest

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Looks like you negroes have pissed off a journalist big
time.

E.B.

A teacher>s baptism by fire

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-leslie12.html

Four years ago, after 25 years in journalism, Leslie
Baldacci quit her prestigious job as a columnist for the
Chicago Sun-Times and became a teacher in the Chicago
Public
Schools. Thanks to an innovative program called Teachers
for
Chicago that allows career-changers to bypass much of
the
usual teacher certification process, she was assigned
that
very fall to teach a class of seventh-graders in a
poorly
performing Roseland school. In her book Inside Mrs. B>s
Classroom (McGraw-Hill, $22.95), Baldacci tells the
story of
her first two years as a teacher. It was an exhausting,
inspiring, harrowing time. Here is a series of excerpts
from
her book.

...Baldacci writes that her classroom was hardly unique.
It
was more like "one deck chair on the Titanic."

The same sort of disorder existed at other schools in
our
city and had for a long time. The kids ran wild. They
swore,
fought, refused to work. At assemblies they booed the
principal. The only punishment was suspension and that
wasn>t so terrible. As one of my students, Cortez, put
it,
"At least it>s better than having to come up here and
look
at your ugly ass."

The school was a microcosm of the neighborhood.
Pregnancy,
drugs and alcohol were part of the life experience of
children 13 and 14 years old. Parents had their own
issues.
Lives were consumed by the relentless stress and woe of
poverty. Violence was omnipresent. The summer before, a
serial killer had murdered prostitutes and left their
bodies
in abandoned houses. ...

Looks like you>re just another ignorant racist so driven
by your fear that
all you can do is draw silly conclusions in order to
spread your messages of
bigotry and hatred.

Do you think I>m the only one drawing the obvious
conclusion?
Only negroes and brainwashed negro apologists could draw a
different conclusion.
And there aren>t that many of them.

E.B.

It would appear that you are the one incapable of learning.[/quote]

Not only that, but your writing style is suspiciously identical to that of
"makemyday", hmmm, could it be that we have another sock puppet here, trying
to make the numbers of ignorant racist bastards appear bigger than it really
is? Nooooo, couldn>t be that.

--
"There are 10 kinds of people in the world:
those who understand binary numbers and those who don>t."
-----------------------------
Byron "Barn" Canfield

Eustace Bagg · Guest

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Looks like you negroes have pissed off a journalist
big
time.

E.B.

A teacher>s baptism by fire

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-leslie12.html

Four years ago, after 25 years in journalism, Leslie
Baldacci quit her prestigious job as a columnist for
the
Chicago Sun-Times and became a teacher in the
Chicago
Public
Schools. Thanks to an innovative program called
Teachers
for
Chicago that allows career-changers to bypass much
of
the
usual teacher certification process, she was
assigned
that
very fall to teach a class of seventh-graders in a
poorly
performing Roseland school. In her book Inside Mrs.
B>s
Classroom (McGraw-Hill, $22.95), Baldacci tells the
story of
her first two years as a teacher. It was an
exhausting,
inspiring, harrowing time. Here is a series of
excerpts
from
her book.

...Baldacci writes that her classroom was hardly
unique.
It
was more like "one deck chair on the Titanic."

The same sort of disorder existed at other schools
in
our
city and had for a long time. The kids ran wild.
They
swore,
fought, refused to work. At assemblies they booed
the
principal. The only punishment was suspension and
that
wasn>t so terrible. As one of my students, Cortez,
put
it,
"At least it>s better than having to come up here
and
look
at your ugly ass."

The school was a microcosm of the neighborhood.
Pregnancy,
drugs and alcohol were part of the life experience
of
children 13 and 14 years old. Parents had their own
issues.
Lives were consumed by the relentless stress and woe
of
poverty. Violence was omnipresent. The summer
before, a
serial killer had murdered prostitutes and left
their
bodies
in abandoned houses. ...

Looks like you>re just another ignorant racist so
driven
by your fear that
all you can do is draw silly conclusions in order to
spread your messages of
bigotry and hatred.

Do you think I>m the only one drawing the obvious
conclusion?
Only negroes and brainwashed negro apologists could draw
a
different conclusion.
And there aren>t that many of them.

E.B.

It would appear that you are the one incapable of
learning.[/quote]

What evidence can you put forward to support your opinion?
Since you didn>t elaborate on why I>m incapable of learning
I suggest
you have no evidence and this is just an Ad Hominem.

[quote]Not only that, but your writing style is suspiciously
identical to that of
"makemyday", hmmm, could it be that we have another sock
puppet here, trying
to make the numbers of ignorant racist bastards appear
bigger than it really
is? Nooooo, couldn>t be that.
[/quote]
Talk about ignorant, I am not makemyday. However, I use the
term DAFN occasionally in lieu of nigger, because it has a
nice ring to it.

E.B.

Donna Metler · Guest

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"Magi D. Shepley"
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Why bother, Byron? They haven>t read the book or the
excerpts. I doubt
they even read the entire article (which has excerpts
in
it), and
clearly shows that the woman cared about her charges
and
didn>t quit or
say this happened because they were Black.

She probably loves niggers, why else give up 2/3 of your
salary to try to teach them something.
She can love them all she wants, and if she prefers to
waste
her time trying to educate them, that is her business.
Just don>t force that on me, okay?
Or, maybe, just maybe, she stayed because she found, as I
have over the past
decade, that given a chance to learn, these students can,
and do, learn. Or
is that too hard for your mind to grasp. You see, just as
flowers can grow
between cracks in a sidewalk, learning can happen in the
inner city. It just
takes someone who is dedicated and motivated to do it.

And, you know what? Long-term, I>d put my inner city kids
up against ones
taught by you any day. Because my students know what is
waiting for them if
they fail. And they know, unlike you, that failure is not
so much a matter
of skin color, but of effort and desire.

Yeah right. If you are teaching negroes in an inner city
school, I wouldn>t be too
quick to put your charges up against anybody elses'.

Please, find your state and tell us how DAFNz stack up
against whitey.
Oh, I know that the mostly Black schools in my state, district and my actual[/quote]
campus perform poorly compared to mostly White schools. However, I also know
that the AVERAGE child in my school gains 15 months for every 10 they>re at
school, while the AVERAGE gain for a white child in my district is about 8
months. Who is learning more? The inner city Black kid who has farther to go
and moving faster, or the White kid who is resting on his laurels and not
taking advantage of the opportunities available. There is no good teaching
required in teaching a child who can already read to read. See, one test
score doesn>t tell the whole story. In fact, it tells next to nothing.

[quote]http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/naepdata/search.asp

I have yet to see a student who wants to learn and who
tries fail
completely. This includes inner city kids, homeless kids,
kids who come to
school with no English at all and live in homes where no
English is spoken,
and kids with some pretty severe disabilities. They may
not succeed at the
1st thing they try, or the fourth, or the 5th, but
eventually, they>ll find
something that they can do, and be proud of doing.

What do you teach, special education?

Actually, I teach music. And I>m not talking about how my students do[/quote]
compared to others-but how they do compared to THEMSELVES and the
improvement they make while they>re at school. See, I don>t believe that
performing well in different areas necessarily makes a person less
successful overall. I have had students come back and tell me they>re going
to college, I have had a student signed to a record label, and I have had
students complete vocational programs and become bricklayers and plumbers.
None of those kids failed at life. They just didn>t all succeed in the same
way. And all of those kids would have been expected to fail by folks like
you. I have seen far more kids write themselves off completely because
they>ve run into folks with your attitude than any other reason-and the sad
part is that many of their parents have accepted that their children are
going to be failures because they>re poor and Black.

It>s not where you start, its where you finish. Life is a marathon, not a
sprint.

[quote]E.B.

E.B.

Byron Canfield wrote:
Looks like you>re just another ignorant racist so
driven
by your fear that
all you can do is draw silly conclusions in order to
spread your messages of
bigotry and hatred.

[/quote]

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Why bother, Byron? They haven>t read the book or the
excerpts. I doubt
they even read the entire article (which has excerpts
in
it), and
clearly shows that the woman cared about her charges
and
didn>t quit or
say this happened because they were Black.

She probably loves niggers, why else give up 2/3 of your
salary to try to teach them something.
She can love them all she wants, and if she prefers to
waste
her time trying to educate them, that is her business.
Just don>t force that on me, okay?
Or, maybe, just maybe, she stayed because she found, as I
have over the past
decade, that given a chance to learn, these students can,
and do, learn. Or
is that too hard for your mind to grasp. You see, just as
flowers can grow
between cracks in a sidewalk, learning can happen in the
inner city. It just
takes someone who is dedicated and motivated to do it.

And, you know what? Long-term, I>d put my inner city kids
up against ones
taught by you any day. Because my students know what is
waiting for them if
they fail. And they know, unlike you, that failure is not
so much a matter
of skin color, but of effort and desire.

Yeah right. If you are teaching negroes in an inner city
school, I wouldn>t be too
quick to put your charges up against anybody elses'.

Please, find your state and tell us how DAFNz stack up
against whitey.
Oh, I know that the mostly Black schools in my state, district and my
actual
campus perform poorly compared to mostly White schools. However, I also
know
that the AVERAGE child in my school gains 15 months for every 10 they>re
at
school, while the AVERAGE gain for a white child in my district is about 8
months. Who is learning more? The inner city Black kid who has farther to
go
and moving faster, or the White kid who is resting on his laurels and not
taking advantage of the opportunities available. There is no good teaching
required in teaching a child who can already read to read. See, one test
score doesn>t tell the whole story. In fact, it tells next to nothing.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/naepdata/search.asp

I have yet to see a student who wants to learn and who
tries fail
completely. This includes inner city kids, homeless kids,
kids who come to
school with no English at all and live in homes where no
English is spoken,
and kids with some pretty severe disabilities. They may
not succeed at the
1st thing they try, or the fourth, or the 5th, but
eventually, they>ll find
something that they can do, and be proud of doing.

What do you teach, special education?

Actually, I teach music. And I>m not talking about how my students do
compared to others-but how they do compared to THEMSELVES and the
improvement they make while they>re at school. See, I don>t believe that
[/quote]
what I 'see' that you don>t 'believe' is that you haven>t done any
real-world comparisons of your students and others...........all you have is
your opinion on how well they are doing

more feel-good bullshit, in other words

[quote]performing well in different areas necessarily makes a person less
successful overall. I have had students come back and tell me they>re
going
to college, I have had a student signed to a record label, and I have had
students complete vocational programs and become bricklayers and plumbers.
None of those kids failed at life. They just didn>t all succeed in the
same
way. And all of those kids would have been expected to fail by folks like
you. I have seen far more kids write themselves off completely because
they>ve run into folks with your attitude than any other reason-and the
sad
part is that many of their parents have accepted that their children are
going to be failures because they>re poor and Black.

It>s not where you start, its where you finish. Life is a marathon, not a
sprint.

E.B.

E.B.

Byron Canfield wrote:
Looks like you>re just another ignorant racist so
driven
by your fear that
all you can do is draw silly conclusions in order to
spread your messages of
bigotry and hatred.

[/quote]


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