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Phil Allison
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 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Max ratings of electret mic |
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"pimpom"
[quote]"Phil Allison"
** Err - you just completely changed the nature of your question.
P.S. voltage is one thing, max Vds of the FET is another.
Why?
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** Because there is a resistor between the damn PS and the FET !!!!
The numbers are not the same nor simply related.
(snip more mind numbing drivel)
[quote]The whole point is that there IS a current limiting resistor - and if
the PS voltage goes up, the SO must the value of that resistor.
In typical applications, yes.
[/quote]
** Err - like ones that actually work ??
[quote]But what if I or someone else want to use the unit in an Atypical
application?
[/quote]
** The YOU spell it out for us - fuckwit.
[quote]Plus - what the f ck are you on about ????
See above.
[/quote]
** Pure lunacy.
[quote]Your dopey Q simply has no context.
Just like you.
That was uncalled for. But I>ll take it in the spirit of Usenet and just
shrug.
[/quote]
** Piss off - you ridiculous WANKER !!
....... Phil |
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pimpom
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Max ratings of electret mic |
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"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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[quote]
"pimpom"
"Phil Allison"
** Err - you just completely changed the nature of your
question.
P.S. voltage is one thing, max Vds of the FET is another.
Why?
** Because there is a resistor between the damn PS and the FET
!!!!
The numbers are not the same nor simply related.
(snip more mind numbing drivel)
The whole point is that there IS a current limiting
resistor - and if the PS voltage goes up, the SO must the
value of that resistor.
I can>t believe that you don>t know the difference between limits[/quote]
imposed by voltage and that by current.
[quote]In typical applications, yes.
** Err - like ones that actually work ??
Can>t you imagine using a device for anything other than its main[/quote]
application? I can. Like using a screwdriver as a lever when
nothing else is available. It "actually works", you know. I just
take care to select the proper size.
[quote]
But what if I or someone else want to use the unit in an
Atypical application?
** The YOU spell it out for us - fuckwit.
When someone asks you for directions to a place, do you demand[/quote]
that he reveals everything he intends to do in that place? Maybe
*you* do at that. I simply asked if anyone knew the max voltage
rating. What I want to do with that information is my business. I
did NOT ask for help in designing something or if an electret mic
is suitable for a specific application. I simply asked for one
piece of information. If you don>t know, shut the f ck up. Moron.
[quote]
Plus - what the f ck are you on about ????
See above.
** Pure lunacy.
Your dopey Q simply has no context.
Just like you.
That was uncalled for. But I>ll take it in the spirit of
Usenet and just shrug.
** Piss off - you ridiculous WANKER !!
It>s people like you who are driving others away from Usenet. And[/quote]
yet you blame GG, newbies and anything else you can think of
except yourselves. Move your ass up out of your chair and go see
a shrink. You need some serious therapy.
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Phil Allison
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Max ratings of electret mic |
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"pimpom"
** Piss off - you ridiculous FUCKING WANKER !! |
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Dr. Polemic
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Question about transistor breakdown voltage |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:35:38 +1100, "Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au>
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[quote]
Gerbermultit00l@gmail.com
I see in the specification sheet for a darlington transistor that its
collector to emitter breakdown voltage is 100V.
What is its emitter to collector breakdown voltage?
** Look at the diagram of the darlington - see a diode drawn from
collector to emitter?
All power darlingtons have them.
[/quote]
Where did you get the idea that the OP was referring to POWER darlingtons?
Besides, it>s not true that all power darlingtons have antiparallel diodes.
The General Electric D40K doesn>t have one. And, as GE says in one of
their manuals, "The modern monolithic Darlington may contain all or none of
the auxiliary components shown in Figure 7.2 (referring to the antiparallel
diode and built-in base-emitter resistors). It only takes one
counterexample to falsify your assertion.
[quote]
Means full conduction from 0.6 volts when subjected to reverse polarity.
...... Phil
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Dr. Polemic
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Question about transistor breakdown voltage |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:10:40 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:35:38 +1100, "Phil Allison"
philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote:
Gerbermultit00l@gmail.com
I see in the specification sheet for a darlington transistor that its
collector to emitter breakdown voltage is 100V.
What is its emitter to collector breakdown voltage?
** Look at the diagram of the darlington - see a diode drawn from
collector to emitter?
All power darlingtons have them.
Means full conduction from 0.6 volts when subjected to reverse polarity.
---
Phil 1, everyone else 0.
[/quote]
Apparently not.
[quote]
JF[/quote] |
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John Fields
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: Question about transistor breakdown voltage |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:05:31 -0700, Dr. Polemic <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:10:40 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:35:38 +1100, "Phil Allison"
philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote:
Gerbermultit00l@gmail.com
I see in the specification sheet for a darlington transistor that its
collector to emitter breakdown voltage is 100V.
What is its emitter to collector breakdown voltage?
** Look at the diagram of the darlington - see a diode drawn from
collector to emitter?
All power darlingtons have them.
Means full conduction from 0.6 volts when subjected to reverse polarity.
---
Phil 1, everyone else 0.
Apparently not.
[/quote]
---
OK.
Phil 1000, you 1
JF |
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pimpom
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: Max ratings of electret mic |
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"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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"pimpom"
** Piss off - you ridiculous FUCKING WANKER !!
You>re repeating yourself. Yawwwn.[/quote]
Can>t think of any argument that makes sense, eh? |
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Dr. Polemic
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:30 am Post subject: Re: Question about transistor breakdown voltage |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:52:20 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
[quote]On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:05:31 -0700, Dr. Polemic <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:10:40 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:35:38 +1100, "Phil Allison"
philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote:
Gerbermultit00l@gmail.com
I see in the specification sheet for a darlington transistor that its
collector to emitter breakdown voltage is 100V.
What is its emitter to collector breakdown voltage?
** Look at the diagram of the darlington - see a diode drawn from
collector to emitter?
All power darlingtons have them.
Means full conduction from 0.6 volts when subjected to reverse polarity.
---
Phil 1, everyone else 0.
Apparently not.
---
OK.
Phil 1000, you 1
[/quote]
Given Phil>s normal tendency to mercilessly rag on anyone who makes any
assumption that he considers unwarranted, he must be held to his own high
standard in that respect. Since the OP didn>t use the word "power" in any
of his posts, Phil gets 0, not 1000, a forfeit for bad behavior.
If anyone else had said what Phil did, he would probably say something like
this:
CONSIDER THE CONTEXT, IDIOT!!!! THE OP WOULD HAVE SEEN THE DIODE IF IT
WERE IN THE DIAGRAM, AND WOULDN>T BE ASKING THE QUESTION HE DID!!!!!
Only Phil made the assumption that the OP>s darlington has a diode;
everybody else assumed that it doesn>t. Why do you suppose that is? Which
is the more reasonable assumption?
Just because I only cited one power darlington without a diode doesn>t mean
that there aren>t more.
But more to the point, it doesn>t matter how many power darlingtons have
diodes. If the OP>s darlington isn>t a power darlington, then it>s
irrelevant how many power darlingtons have diodes. You don>t get points
for conclusions based on an unwarranted assumption.
Furthermore, if we don>t know for sure whether the OP>s darlington has a
diode or not, and have no good reason to assume that it does, treating the
case where it doesn>t is the useful thing to do.
>JF |
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Phil Allison
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:03 am Post subject: Re: Max ratings of electret mic |
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"pimpom"
** Get fucked you vile little shit. |
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Phil Allison
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:14 am Post subject: Re: Question about transistor breakdown voltage |
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"Dr. Posturing Pig "
[quote]Phil Allison
Gerbermultit00l@gmail.com
I see in the specification sheet for a darlington transistor that its
collector to emitter breakdown voltage is 100V.
What is its emitter to collector breakdown voltage?
** Look at the diagram of the darlington - see a diode drawn from
collector to emitter?
All power darlingtons have them.
Where did you get the idea that the OP was referring to POWER darlingtons?
[/quote]
** 100 volt, NPN low side switch ..... so has all the earmarks.
Plus see the " ? " at the end of the line ????
That means something.
[quote]Besides, it>s not true that all power darlingtons have antiparallel
diodes.
[/quote]
** All the popular, readily available ones do.
[quote]The General Electric D40K doesn>t have one.
[/quote]
** Really.
Why don>t you go jump in front of an express train - fuckwit.
...... Phil |
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Dr. Polemic
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:19 am Post subject: Re: Question about transistor breakdown voltage |
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:14:41 +1100, "Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au>
wrote:
[quote]
"Dr. Posturing Pig "
Phil Allison
Gerbermultit00l@gmail.com
I see in the specification sheet for a darlington transistor that its
collector to emitter breakdown voltage is 100V.
What is its emitter to collector breakdown voltage?
** Look at the diagram of the darlington - see a diode drawn from
collector to emitter?
[/quote]
If there were a diode in the diagram he wouldn>t have been asking the
question.
[quote]
All power darlingtons have them.
Where did you get the idea that the OP was referring to POWER darlingtons?
** 100 volt, NPN low side switch ..... so has all the earmarks.
[/quote]
Small signal darlingtons are very often used as low side switches to turn
on LED>s, energize small relays, and they are also often NPN. These things
don>t imply power.
[quote]
Plus see the " ? " at the end of the line ????
That means something.
[/quote]
It means he was asking a question. If a diode were visible in the diagram,
he wouldn>t need you to ask him if he could see it.
[quote]
Besides, it>s not true that all power darlingtons have antiparallel
diodes.
** All the popular, readily available ones do.
[/quote]
So that means he couldn>t be asking about one of the less popular ones?
[quote]
The General Electric D40K doesn>t have one.
** Really.
[/quote]
Really. And more besides.
[quote]
Why don>t you go jump in front of an express train - fuckwit.
[/quote]
After you.
[quote]
..... Phil
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Phil Allison
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: Re: Question about transistor breakdown voltage |
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"Dr. Posturing Cunt "
[quote]Plus see the " ? " at the end of the line ????
That means something.
It means he was asking a question.
[/quote]
** No - the one I put after the word "emitter".
I was asking the OP a question.
YOU AUTISTIC FUCKING MORON !!!!
Go jump in front of an express train - fuckwit. |
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Dr. Polemic
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Question about transistor breakdown voltage |
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:14:41 +1100, "Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au>
wrote:
[quote]
SNIP
** 100 volt, NPN low side switch ..... so has all the earmarks.
[/quote]
100 volt, NPN low side switch. Those qualities are the exact "earmarks"
of a BC372 small signal darlington for example, and don>t imply "power".
The diagram shows there is no diode. If the spec sheet he was looking at
had a diagram with a diode, he would have seen it, and wouldn>t have been
asking the question he asked. That>s the context you>re ignoring, as you
so often accuse others of doing.
[quote]
Plus see the " ? " at the end of the line ????
That means something.
[/quote]
I notice he hasn>t responded to your question. The answer was so obvious
it didn>t merit a reply. If there had been a diode in a diagram, he
wouldn>t have been asking about reverse breakdown.
[quote]
Besides, it>s not true that all power darlingtons have antiparallel
diodes.
** All the popular, readily available ones do.
The General Electric D40K doesn>t have one.
** Really.
Why don>t you go jump in front of an express train - fuckwit.
..... Phil
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Phil Allison
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:17 am Post subject: Re: Question about transistor breakdown voltage |
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"Dr. Posturing Cunthead "
I was asking the OP a question !!!!
YOU AUTISTIC FUCKING MORON !!!!
Go jump in front of an express train - fuckwit. |
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: Re: Question about transistor breakdown voltage |
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Phil Allison wrote:
[quote]"Dr. Posturing Cunthead "
I was asking the OP a question !!!!
YOU AUTISTIC FUCKING MORON !!!!
Go jump in front of an express train - fuckwit.
[/quote]
Ah JOY.
Phyllis at her best.
Graham |
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