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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:51:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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[quote]Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
How about addressing the source of the problem ?
Not even possible. Thats always been the problem with terrorism.
Ever heard of the 'Good Friday Agreement' ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Friday_Agreement
Thats not addressing the source of the problem, thats just
ONE group of terrorists getting sick of being terrorists.
They aint even the ones stupid enough to buy the line that blowing
yourself to bits will see you instantly transported to nirvana etc.
Once you have terrorists that stupid, there is no way to address the source of the problem.
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John Fields
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:08:22 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Rod Speed wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
John Fields wrote
Implosion is what happens when an evacuated volume
pulls in its walls when they>re rendered unstable.
Thats just one way of imploding, stupid.
No.
Yep.
That IS implosion exactly.
Thats just one way of imploding, stupid.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/implode?view=uk
"verb collapse or cause to collapse violently inwards."
***INWARDS*** not DOWN.
You can>t even understand the English Language.
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Oh, he understands it OK, he>s just a troll who has trouble writing
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John Fields
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:34:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
John Fields wrote
Implosion is what happens when an evacuated volume
pulls in its walls when they>re rendered unstable.
Thats just one way of imploding, stupid.
No.
Yep.
That IS implosion exactly.
Thats just one way of imploding, stupid.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/implode?view=uk
"verb collapse or cause to collapse violently inwards."
***INWARDS*** not DOWN.
The top imploded inwards, stupid.
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No, it fell.
You>ve been unhorsed several times, and repeating a lie endlessly
doesn>t make it true.
Give it up.
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John Fields
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:56:40 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote
Rob Dekker <rob@verific.com> wrote
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rob Dekker wrote
Didn>t GM already build a hybrid diesel in the 90s that got 70mpg ?
Let me look that up... YES ! The Chrysler ESX-3.
And the Precept got 80mpg.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partnership_for_a_New_Generation_of_Vehicles
What a terrible shame that we have these vehicle designs
already for 10 year, and still don>t produce them now.....
Much worse than a shame. I>d call it borderline criminal.
Unlikely given that no one else does either.
Two wrongs make a right?
A rolling stone gathers no moss.
Much more likely that it turns out to have some real practical downsides.
Like, f>rinstance?
Not economic to build.
How much of an effect do you think big oil had in shutting down the program?
None, zero, nada, ziltch. They couldnt have done that world wide.
Yeah, right.
Fraid so.
From a zillion barrels a day to a quarter of that
Big oil doesnt get to do that.
and the source wouldn>t bitch?
There is no source, stupid.
You>re a lot stupider than you pretend to be.
You>re a pathetic excuse for a troll.
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You seem to be firmly hooked.
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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disgoftunwells wrote:
[quote]Eeyore wrote:
disgoftunwells wrote:
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
Pure fantasy. Show us the plant doing anything like that.
Here you go:http://www.nanosolar.com/blog3/
It>s actually 100 feet per minute, or about 1mph.(Not even 2 orders of
magnitude error)
On the other hand, this isn>t a plant doing 1GW (capacity) per year.
It>s a machine.
They expect $1 / watt.
To the best of my knowledge nanosolar product has not been independently
tested and is only being sold to 'selected' customers.
At 1GW capacity per year you shouldn>t have to wait too long - I>m
pretty sure their shipping stuff.. Though I don>t think they>ll deal
direct with the public.
Though for some reason their first municipal customer is in Eastern
Germany, that well known sunny spot.
When there>s one of the shelf I can buy I>ll believe it. If they can do it
- GREAT - but I see certain fundamental physical principles of an
extraordinary order that they would have had to overcome.
Can you elaborate?
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My understanding is that the crytsal lattice has to be oriented at a certain
angle for the the thing to function. How you can do that with printing baffles
me.
Also how do you 'print' a diode (which is what a solar cell is) which is a
diffused junction device ?
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John Fields
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:59:54 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rob Dekker wrote
Eeyore wrote
Rob Dekker wrote
In vehicles, load varies wildly (unless you are crusing on the
freeway), so, well-tuned diesels performing in series hybrids
(essentially driving a generator) should be the most efficient
way to power a vehicle...
I totally agree. Opel of Germany are working on one.
May be out around 2012. Google Opel Flextreme.
Did you take a look at it btw ? It>s like Europe>s answer to the the Chevy Volt.
Didn>t GM already build a hybrid diesel in the 90s that got 70mpg ?
Let me look that up... YES ! The Chrysler ESX-3.
And the Precept got 80mpg.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partnership_for_a_New_Generation_of_Vehicles
What a terrible shame that we have these vehicle designs
already for 10 year, and still don>t produce them now.....
Extraordinary. I never knew about any of those. I wonder why
the automakers wanted the programme halted. Maybe they
preferred to make SUVs ? Or were they too expensive to build ?
Yep, bet the last is the real reason, given that no one else bothered world wide.
Now that was a sensible, civil response.
Mine always are.
I>m pleased to hear you aspire to that.
I dont aspire to a damned thing, I deliver that.
Why not try more of those ?
No need, thats all I ever do.
I can>t entirely agree with that part.
You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.
What you might or might not claim to agree with in spades.
Try being nicer and less confrontational.
Go and f ck yourself.
I>d also advise you read dictionary definitions more thoroughly.
I order you to go shove your head up a dead bear>s arse.
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Tsk, tsk, tsk...
Actually, I think we>d all be better off if you shoved your head up a
_live_ bear>s "arse".
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:52:58 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Some pathetic excuse for a troll claiming to be
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com
desperately attempted to bullshit and lie its way out of its
predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
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Ah, another admission of defeat!
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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BretCahill@peoplepc.com wrote:
[quote]That could drop with cheap PV.
So such thing yet exists.
One plant in San Jose puts out a GW a year.
And it>s area is ?
I>ld assume it is the 15% rating applied to the 1kW/m^2 figure, 6.7
m^2/kW X 1 GW X 1,000,000 kW/GW = 6.7 million m^2.
Have you EVER heard of something called INSOLATION ?
It>s 'how sunny' different places are. I suggest you read up on it. Not that I>d
expect you to. You just want sweet simply phoney 'answers' from Father
Christmas.
To be fair wind and solar plants are quoted at their capacity, not
their actual output.
The 1GW per year would probably translate to an average of 200MW if
placed on south facing roofs in Germany, or 1.2GW if placed in space.
Build more plants.
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Spend more money !
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John Fields
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:53:42 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Some pathetic excuse for a troll claiming to be
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com
desperately attempted to bullshit and lie its way out of its
predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
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Ah, another admission of defeat!
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John Fields
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:54:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/implode?view=uk
"verb collapse or cause to collapse violently inwards."
***INWARDS*** not DOWN.
The top imploded inwards, stupid.
No it didn>t.
Yes it did.
It held steady.
Sitting in free air eh ? Yeah, right.
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Geez, you>re as technically incompetent as the Cahill goon.
Fact is, it was being supported by the structure beneath it until its
integrity was compromised by the fire.
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John Fields
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:59:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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[quote]Nope, and it wouldnt work with the terrorists being discussed
anyway, because they havent got sick of being terrorists and
they are stupid enough to believe that blowing themselve to
bits is an instant ticket to nirvana.
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What makes you think that it isn>t?
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John Fields
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:07:08 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Nope, the top imploded, stupid.
Totally unsupported by all the photographic evidence.
Wrong, as always. You>re just using the WRONG meaning of the word imploded, stupid.
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Clearly you>ve been thoroughly beaten and now all you>re doing is
thrashing around hoping for some miracle to come along and save your
miserable ass.
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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John Fields wrote:
[quote]"Rod Speed" wrote:
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote
Rob Dekker <rob@verific.com> wrote
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rob Dekker wrote
Didn>t GM already build a hybrid diesel in the 90s that got 70mpg ?
Let me look that up... YES ! The Chrysler ESX-3.
And the Precept got 80mpg.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partnership_for_a_New_Generation_of_Vehicles
What a terrible shame that we have these vehicle designs
already for 10 year, and still don>t produce them now.....
Much worse than a shame. I>d call it borderline criminal.
Unlikely given that no one else does either.
Two wrongs make a right?
A rolling stone gathers no moss.
Much more likely that it turns out to have some real practical downsides.
Like, f>rinstance?
Not economic to build.
How much of an effect do you think big oil had in shutting down the program?
None, zero, nada, ziltch. They couldnt have done that world wide.
Yeah, right.
Fraid so.
From a zillion barrels a day to a quarter of that
Big oil doesnt get to do that.
and the source wouldn>t bitch?
There is no source, stupid.
You>re a lot stupider than you pretend to be.
You>re a pathetic excuse for a troll.
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Am I?
You seem to be firmly hooked.
JF
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I hope you>re getting some fun from this. I was led to believe he was an expert yet
he trips himself up continually.
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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John Fields wrote:
[quote]"Rod Speed" wrote:
Eeyore wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Nope, the top imploded, stupid.
Totally unsupported by all the photographic evidence.
Wrong, as always. You>re just using the WRONG meaning of the word imploded, stupid.
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Clearly you>ve been thoroughly beaten and now all you>re doing is
thrashing around hoping for some miracle to come along and save your
miserable ass.
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I wonder if he>s ever seen a real implosion ?
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John Fields
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:11:38 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
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John Fields wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote:
You>re a pathetic excuse for a troll.
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Am I?
You seem to be firmly hooked.
JF
I hope you>re getting some fun from this. I was led to believe he was an expert yet
he trips himself up continually.
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Yup. He seems to be smaller than the legal limit so I>m gonna unhook
him and throw him back in.
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