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Rod Speed
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Rod Speed wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/implode?view=uk

"verb collapse or cause to collapse violently inwards."

***INWARDS*** not DOWN.

The top imploded inwards, stupid.

No it didn>t.

Yes it did.

It held steady.

Sitting in free air eh ? Yeah, right.

Supported by the floors below it that also held steady for ages.
[/quote]
Nope, the top imploded, stupid.

[quote]The pics are readily available.
[/quote]
Showing it imploding, stupid.
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Eeyore
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

Rod Speed wrote:

[quote]Eeyore wrote

It was EXACTLY to do with addressing the source of the problem.

Nope, and it wouldnt work with the terrorists being discussed
anyway, because they havent got sick of being terrorists and
they are stupid enough to believe that blowing themselve to
bits is an instant ticket to nirvana.

Even the stupidest Irish fuckwit was never THAT stupid.
[/quote]
You clearly have NO IDEA what really happened. Talks between the IRA and even
the Thatcher government (of all to imagine) took place in secret.

Graham
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Eeyore
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:36 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

Rod Speed wrote:

[quote]Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote

If you don>t understand the phsychology of it, it>ll never go away.

And it wont even if you do either. Its easy enough to understand
the psychology of the fools that are stupid enough to believe that
blowing themselves to bits is a guaranteed ticket to nirvana.

Understanding that doesnt do a damned thing about making it go away.

You>re SO (mostly) wrong.

Nope, you are. About Churchill in spades.

And your silly line didnt work with Ireland itself.

It was Churchill that had to give up and let them stew in their own juice
and they were actually stupid enough to have a full civil war when he did too.
[/quote]
You>re talking about the 1920s ?

I>m talking about NOW.

Graham
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Eeyore
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:38 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

Rod Speed wrote:

[quote]Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Yep, those damned rag heads aint exactly rocket scientist material.

Despite the CIA>s best intel and the Iraq war !

Its always possible to do terrorist atrocitys.

In spades when the fools are happy to die in the process.

And to bring those atrocities to an end,

Not even possible, as I said.

you advocate that other "fools" who willingly give up their lives to end it are wrong?

Nope. Just do whats practical to stop them doing stuff like
hijacking aircraft and get used to the fact that there will always
be some risk when using mass public transport where its not
practical to search everyone and dont sit next to swathy
individuals who are carrying anything much who are sweating a bit.

London>s 'tube' or NYC>s subway being perfect examples.

Yep.

Now, if the West were on better terms with certain nations
instead of aggravating them and the extreme cults within them
.........

Again, not even possible. You english tried it tried it right thruout your
colonys and it just plain isnt possible with the worst of the rabid loonys.

You>ve been reading the wrong history books again.

Nope.

The former 'British Commonwealth' is the largest collective bloc of nations on the > planet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations

Irrelevant to what the english attempted with terrorists.
[/quote]
Uh ?

Graham
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Eeyore
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

Rod Speed wrote:

[quote]There is no 'problem' that can be addressed.
[/quote]
Is that so ?

Graham
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Eeyore
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

Rod Speed wrote:

[quote]Nope, the top imploded, stupid.
[/quote]
Totally unsupported by all the photographic evidence.

Graham
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disgoftunwells
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

On 28 Jul, 00:37, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
[quote]BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:
That could drop with cheap PV.

So such thing yet exists.

One plant in San Jose puts out a GW a year.

And it>s area is ?

I>ld assume it is the 15% rating applied to the 1kW/m^2 figure, 6.7
m^2/kW X 1 GW X 1,000,000 kW/GW = 6.7 million m^2.

Have you EVER heard of something called INSOLATION ?

It>s 'how sunny' different places are. I suggest you read up on it. Not that I>d
expect you to. You just want sweet simply phoney 'answers' from Father
Christmas.

To be fair wind and solar plants are quoted at their capacity, not[/quote]
their actual output.

The 1GW per year would probably translate to an average of 200MW if
placed on south facing roofs in Germany, or 1.2GW if placed in space.

> Graham
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disgoftunwells
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

On 29 Jul, 22:18, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
[quote]disgoftunwells wrote:
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:

Pure fantasy. Show us the plant doing anything like that.

Here you go:http://www.nanosolar.com/blog3/

It>s actually 100 feet per minute, or about 1mph.(Not even 2 orders of
magnitude error)

On the other hand, this isn>t a plant doing 1GW (capacity) per year.
It>s a machine.

They expect $1 / watt.

To the best of my knowledge nanosolar product has not been independently
tested and is only being sold to 'selected' customers.

At 1GW capacity per year you shouldn>t have to wait too long - I>m[/quote]
pretty sure their shipping stuff.. Though I don>t think they>ll deal
direct with the public.

Though for some reason their first municipal customer is in Eastern
Germany, that well known sunny spot.

[quote]When there>s one of the shelf I can buy I>ll believe it. If they can do it
- GREAT - but I see certain fundamental physical principles of an
extraordinary order that they would have had to overcome.

Can you elaborate?[/quote]
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

[quote]That could drop with cheap PV.

So such thing yet exists.

One plant in San Jose puts out a GW a year.

And it>s area is ?

I>ld assume it is the 15% rating applied to the 1kW/m^2 figure, 6.7
m^2/kW X 1 GW X 1,000,000 kW/GW = 6.7 million m^2.

Have you EVER heard of something called INSOLATION ?

It>s 'how sunny' different places are. I suggest you read up on it. Not that I>d
expect you to. You just want sweet simply phoney 'answers' from Father
Christmas.

To be fair wind and solar plants are quoted at their capacity, not
their actual output.

The 1GW per year would probably translate to an average of 200MW if
placed on south facing roofs in Germany, or 1.2GW if placed in space.
[/quote]
Build more plants.



Bret Cahill
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Rod Speed
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
[quote]Rod Speed wrote

There is no 'problem' that can be addressed.

Is that so ?
[/quote]
Yep, have fun listing even a single example of anyone
actually addressing that particular problem successfully.

Once they are stupid enough to believe that killing themselves
is an instant transport to nirvana, you>re fucked. No western
attempt to convince them otherwise is going to be credible.

Just another example of the power of ideas.
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Rod Speed
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
[quote]Rod Speed wrote
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote

If you don>t understand the phsychology of it, it>ll never go away.

And it wont even if you do either. Its easy enough to understand
the psychology of the fools that are stupid enough to believe that
blowing themselves to bits is a guaranteed ticket to nirvana.

Understanding that doesnt do a damned thing about making it go away.

You>re SO (mostly) wrong.

Nope, you are. About Churchill in spades.

And your silly line didnt work with Ireland itself.

It was Churchill that had to give up and let them stew in their own juice
and they were actually stupid enough to have a full civil war when he did too.

You>re talking about the 1920s ?
[/quote]
That bit was.

[quote]I>m talking about NOW.
[/quote]
How odd that the english havent managed convince a single one
of the fools that buy that line about blowing themselves to bits is
a guaranteed ticket to nirvana to stop doing that sort of thing just
by talking to them NOW either.

That might just be because it isnt actually possible
to deal with the sources of THAT problem that way.
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Rod Speed
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
[quote]Rod Speed wrote
Eeyore wrote

It was EXACTLY to do with addressing the source of the problem.

Nope, and it wouldnt work with the terrorists being discussed
anyway, because they havent got sick of being terrorists and
they are stupid enough to believe that blowing themselve to
bits is an instant ticket to nirvana.

Even the stupidest Irish fuckwit was never THAT stupid.

You clearly have NO IDEA what really happened.
[/quote]
We>ll see...

[quote]Talks between the IRA and even the Thatcher
government (of all to imagine) took place in secret.
[/quote]
Irrelevant to whether it would work with fools that
are actually stupid enough to believe that blowing
themselves to bits is an instant transport to nirvana.

The english tried that with plenty that loony and never managed
to convince even a single one about the error of their ways.

They havent even managed to do that with the fools
stupid enough to do that sort of thing in england itself lately.
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Rod Speed
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
[quote]Rod Speed wrote

Nope, the top imploded, stupid.

Totally unsupported by all the photographic evidence.
[/quote]
Wrong, as always. You>re just using the WRONG meaning of the word imploded, stupid.
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Rod Speed
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
[quote]Rod Speed wrote
Eeyore wrote

Try being nicer and less confrontational.

Go and f ck yourself.

I>d also advise you read dictionary definitions more thoroughly.

I order you to go shove your head up a dead bear>s arse.

Over here we call that "game set and match".
[/quote]
Yep, I won long ago.

[quote]You need to learn some civility.
[/quote]
You need to go and f ck yourself.
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John Fields
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: ZEBRA electric school bus Reply with quote

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:47:35 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

[quote]Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
John Fields wrote

Implosion is what happens when an evacuated volume
pulls in its walls when they>re rendered unstable.

Thats just one way of imploding, stupid.

No.

Yep.

That IS implosion exactly.

Thats just one way of imploding, stupid.

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/implode?view=uk

---[/quote]
So what?

That isn>t what happened to the towers, and that>s what this is all
about, so stop trying to steer it your way and just admit you>re
wrong.

JF
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