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Florian
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Where did the extra mass come from? Reply with quote

Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:

[quote]Circular reasoning, the stiffness of the lithosphere is deduced from the
assumption that the plate moves as a whole.

Uh no, the stiffness of the lithosphere is deduced from the
observation of scarce earthquakes and GPS derived motion of plates.
[/quote]
Circular reasoning. The GPS can>t help to differentiate if lithosphere
is simply creeping on a fixed radius globe or if it is relatively moving
at the surface of a growing globe.


[quote]Not significant as shown by comparing the energy released by these
intraplate seisms to that of boundary seisms.

Exactly.

Do you understand the difference between zero and non-zero?
[/quote]
Negligible earthquake energy and neglibible deformation come in pair.


[quote]And small plates like the Gorda plate have suffered
obvious intraplate deformation.

Only because of the proximity of the an upduction center inducing
flexural slip.

Bawahaha.
[/quote]
I note you deny there is flexural slip deformation of the Gorda plate.



--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Where did the extra mass come from? Reply with quote

J. Taylor <nchiwana@embarqmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote:

[quote]There would not only be forward resistance but lateral.

The Pacific plate is divided by transform faults which would need to
be sliding past each other as shown by bathymetery of the ocean floor,
and there are sections between transform faults with one particular
age ahead of a part of the same age [...]
[/quote]
Good point. The difference of age implies a differnece in stiffness and
should induce a drag.

--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Where did the extra mass come from? Reply with quote

Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:

[quote]On Oct 6, 12:50 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
On Oct 6, 12:18 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
George <Geo...@george.net> wrote:
And according to my Paleontology professor, who studied tectonics
under Carey in Tasmania as a Fulbright Scholar, his ideas for plate
tectonics were revolutionary, but his insistance on EE made him a
nutcase.

People ahead of their time are often considered as crazy.

Except thats not you.

Expanding Earth is a decades old discarded theory.

Thats hardly being ahead of your time.

It was so ahead of its time that everything was done to avoid it, dixit
Le Pichon. "We had to find a way to destroy crust to balance that
created at the ridges"

reference?
[/quote]
<http://www.canal-u.education.fr/canalu/producteurs/universite_de_tous_l
es_savoirs/dossier_programmes/les_conferences_de_l_annee_2000/la_terre_l
es_oceans_le_climat/de_la_derive_des_continents_a_la_tectonique_des_plaq
ues>


[quote]40 years later, the assumption used to "discard it" are proven wrong.
Paleomanetic data can be used to calculate that the radius of Earth
double since early cretaceous.


LOL
[/quote]
Typical reaction from a PT believer confronted with factual data.


--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Where did the extra mass come from? Reply with quote

On Oct 7, 4:23 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
[quote]Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
On Oct 6, 12:50 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
On Oct 6, 12:18 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
George <Geo...@george.net> wrote:
And according to my Paleontology professor, who studied tectonics
under Carey in Tasmania as a Fulbright Scholar, his ideas for plate
tectonics were revolutionary, but his insistance on EE made him a
nutcase.

People ahead of their time are often considered as crazy.

Except thats not you.

Expanding Earth is a decades old discarded theory.

Thats hardly being ahead of your time.

It was so ahead of its time that everything was done to avoid it, dixit
Le Pichon. "We had to find a way to destroy crust to balance that
created at the ridges"

reference?

http://www.canal-u.education.fr/canalu/producteurs/universite_de_tous_l
es_savoirs/dossier_programmes/les_conferences_de_l_annee_2000/la_terre_l
es_oceans_le_climat/de_la_derive_des_continents_a_la_tectonique_des_plaq
ues

40 years later, the assumption used to "discard it" are proven wrong.
Paleomanetic data can be used to calculate that the radius of Earth
double since early cretaceous.

LOL

Typical reaction from a PT believer confronted with factual data.


What factual data?[/quote]

You mean Scalera?

Stuart
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Florian
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:39 am    Post subject: Re: Where did the extra mass come from? Reply with quote

George <George@george.net> wrote:

[quote]"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
news:1iof0jr.iqt9ezqvbwywN%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net...
Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:

On Oct 6, 12:18 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:

No but The San Andreas is the border between the Pacific Plate and
the
North America Plate where the deformation occurs.

Yes it is a boundary. Using it as an example to illustrate Intrapacific
deformation is stupid.

I wasn>t using it as an example of intraplate deformation.

Not you, but Ron. As usual.

--

Go back and reread what I posted. I didn>t say that the San Andreas was an
example of intraplate deformation.
[/quote]
Ron you brought the San andreas fault where as we were discussing
deformations of fractures in the middle of the pacific. I reminded you
that those fractures are scars left by transform faults between two
ridge segments, then you introduced the san andreas fault as an example
of fracture deformations...


--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:04 am    Post subject: Re: Where did the extra mass come from? Reply with quote

On Oct 7, 11:51 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
[quote]Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:
What factual data?

The data summarized by Chudinov in Part 2 A of his book "Eduction
Concept of the Earth>s Expansion Theory " ISBN 9067642991

--
[/quote]
Ah well.

Thats what I get for checking the best seller list.

Stuart
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Florian
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:51 am    Post subject: Re: Where did the extra mass come from? Reply with quote

Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:

[quote]What factual data?
[/quote]
The data summarized by Chudinov in Part 2 A of his book "Eduction
Concept of the Earth>s Expansion Theory " ISBN 9067642991

--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer
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Greatest Mining Pioneer o
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: "TURCAUD BATH" Reply with quote

On Oct 7, 1:31 pm, "Carole" <hub...@iimetro.com.au> wrote:
[quote]"Sunny" <wombatlo...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:bqUFk.3076$sc2.326@news-server.bigpond.net.au...





Hi Jean-Paul,
Good on you for promoting drug free solution to alternative health.

All he is promoting is snake oil and bullshit  e.g.
(turdspeak) :
6.  I can cure :
Aids -  within hours
Cancer -   (in 5 days flat) ("immediate relief within an hour)
Tetanus - (in 1 second)
Drug addiction - (off the hook within minutes - cure in a month)
Rheumatism/Arthritis/Heart and Brain attacks/Tumours - immediately
I can stabilise, and sometimes cure ;
Diabetes/Pott/Parkinsons/Multiple Sclerosis>s/Alzheimer.

6a.  "Anyway, coming back to Down syndrome children,
knowing the causes, it is easy then to apply proper cure and bring
such children back to normality."

Whatever he is doing now is rotting his brain.

Unlike you sunny, I think that the cures for all disease have been
suppressed.
It is not so hard to believe that somebody could come up with cures,
although not by following conventional research.

carolewww.cellsalts.net
[/quote]
Correct dear Carole, and please note of Sonny, that son of an infamous
fraud, Tyrwhitt, is defending at all time the irresponsibility of the
sicks in their dizeazezz ....
That type of gutless Turd hiding himself in the shadows & hurling
heinous insults, as the little yellow coward he is, to aristocratic
minds well above the intellectual sludge upon which his type wallops
in delight, IS obviously party in the Quacks ' business either direct
or by proxy.

Personally I see all that bleating Humanity with complete amazement,
asking cures & drugs while at no time considering the causes of its
ills !

I feel hence that whatever the fatal outcome all dizeazezz are fully
dezzzerved indeed, and further consider it wrong to give suckers ways
to pull out by natural means from their erroneous and criminals ways
in relation to the Eternal Cosmic Laws

Still out of kindness and pity indeed, I have given out the Turcaud
Bath, not with a view to cure but with an intention TO CURE AND SET
PEOPLE ON THE PATH TO RESPONSIBILITY RELATED TO THEIR HEALTH !

See ?

With kindest regards to you, and the expression of my highest contempt
towards Sunny ze Turd, the putrified & rotten carrion feeding
polluted intestines RAT. A rat indeed intent on preventing people>s
awareness and precipitating them into the abyss of utter Quacks 's
slavish dependency.

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:21 am    Post subject: Re: Hollow Earth versus Plate Tectonics Reply with quote

On Oct 7, 7:11 am, schu...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote:
[quote]In misc.health.alternative Jan Drew <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
:
: "Richard Schultz" <schu...@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote in message
:news:gcc8i6$8gm$1@news.iucc.ac.il...
:> In misc.health.alternative Jan Drew <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
:> : Of course he eats Kosher.  He is a Jew.

:> Off topic.

: Well, you didn>t think so where you answered.

That is because unlike you, I know what the term "off topic" actually means,
I understand the concept of thread drift, and I know when I am being mocked.

: It is well known that Jew>s eat Kosher, and that you are a Jew.

It>s also well known that in English, the plural of "Jew" is "Jews," not
"Jew>s."  It>s also well known that many (most, probably) Jews do not
keep kosher.  Which of the two groups I belong to is none of your business
unless you are inviting me to dinner.

-----
Richard Schultz                              schu...@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"It>s certainly easy to mock things," agreed Trefusis.  "Oddly enough
though I>ve never found it easy to mock anything of value.  Only things
that are tawdry and fatuous -- perhaps it>s just me."
[/quote]
Richard,

Eating Kosher is excellent and I encourage you to do so, although what
noted as Kosher by the Rabbids is misleading knowledge indeed....this
is why Jews at large can be considered as Goys as the rest since
falling like flies from the same dizeazezz affecting the other Goys
( Slamists and Christian ) It is a fact as well that their so-called
religious leaders are as misleading those poor people as the other
kind of frauds Preeests, Meaneesterz, Mollardzz etc foraging in their
minds the convictions of people>s irresponsibility towards their own
dizeazezz !
Not so, my friend, all dizeazezz are dezzerved and next time you can
to the Synag, just after patting the Thoro on the back, just do not
fail to drive that point to the other 'amen' bleating pack around. No
need to swing, sing and dance indeed when the very causes of dizeazezz
are not accepted, and when such dichotomy of the JIC sects at large
encourage ignorance and promote indeed a drug pushing industry whose
interest is evidently quick return on profit and not the betterment of
Humanity at large ... Just like the Slamists licking the floor and
pushing their arses in the air while bleating to a wall, just like
the cannibal Christians devouring what they see as the blood &
panting flesh of a murdered man in their abominable ceremonies,
Gullibility and childishness knows NO BOUNDARY in present Sects '
led Humanity !

Hence the present most horrible Medical & Geological Theories

With kindest regards

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Founder of the True Geology
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: "TURCAUD BATH" Reply with quote

"Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote in message
news:cMHGk.3799$sc2.725@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
[quote]
"Sunny" <wombatlodge@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bqUFk.3076$sc2.326@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Hi Jean-Paul,
Good on you for promoting drug free solution to alternative health.

All he is promoting is snake oil and bullshit e.g.
(turdspeak) :
6. I can cure :
Aids - within hours
Cancer - (in 5 days flat) ("immediate relief within an hour)
Tetanus - (in 1 second)
Drug addiction - (off the hook within minutes - cure in a month)
Rheumatism/Arthritis/Heart and Brain attacks/Tumours - immediately
I can stabilise, and sometimes cure ;
Diabetes/Pott/Parkinsons/Multiple Sclerosis>s/Alzheimer.

6a. "Anyway, coming back to Down syndrome children,
knowing the causes, it is easy then to apply proper cure and bring
such children back to normality."

Whatever he is doing now is rotting his brain.

Unlike you sunny, I think that the cures for all disease have been
suppressed.
[/quote]
Even for you, that is a stupid statement.


[quote]It is not so hard to believe that somebody could come up with cures,
although not by following conventional research.
[/quote]
Turcaud and his lying claims are not cures for anything.
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TacAN
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: "TURCAUD BATH" Reply with quote

"Sunny" <wombatlodge@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]
[/quote]
Hi Sunny

Go down to your local newsagent and buy a copy of the latest Nexus Magazine
October-November 2008 issue.
Commencing on page 21 there is an excellent article titled:

"Magnesium Chloride for Health and Rejuvenation"

This relates strongly to JP>s kind release of the Turcaud Bath.

Worth reading with an open mind before you condemn it as "quackery",
please.


Graham

PS
Note for JP - if its of any value I can scan & email these pages just on an
fyi basis.
I>m sure you know what its all about - but may be of interest.

Regards
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Jan Drew
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Jew>s eat Kosher Reply with quote

"Richard Schultz" <schultr@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote:
[quote]In misc.health.alternative Jan Drew <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
:
: "Richard Schultz" <schultr@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote > :> In
misc.health.alternative Jan Drew <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
:> : Of course he eats Kosher. He is a Jew.

:> Off topic.

: Well, you didn>t think so where you answered.
[/quote]
Opps. You snipped MY words.

[quote]* Unless you are inviting me to dinner, I can>t see what business of yours
the answer to that question could possibly be.*
[/quote]
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: Now, our famous geologist confuses continental rift and Reply with quote

"Sunny" <wombatlodge@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]
Greatest froggy fraud of all Times"[/quote]
<australia.non-mining-non-pioneer@neuf.fr>
wrote in message
[quote]news:e2851605-6f35-42c4-9f39-c57a49084252@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On 6 oct, 09:03, "George" <sterile dozy dolt idiot @george.net> wrote:
"Greatest froggy fraud of all Times" <mining-non-pion...@neuf.fr
wrote in
messagenews:0e79c6b2-434d-4b65-a379-97c98b6ef0d0@v53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 5, 4:57 pm, J. Taylor <nchiw...@embarqmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote:

George

Yates cunt, aka George
You fucking degenerate moron of Yates, you dare calling me a fraud ...
snip rest of Turcaud rave

He got the "Fraud" title exactly right.
[/quote]
It>s not rocket science.

George
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: Where did the extra mass come from? Reply with quote

"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
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[quote]George <George@george.net> wrote:

"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
news:1iof0jr.iqt9ezqvbwywN%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net...
Stuart <bigdakine@aol.com> wrote:

On Oct 6, 12:18 am, auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
(Florian) wrote:
Stuart <bigdak...@aol.com> wrote:

No but The San Andreas is the border between the Pacific Plate and
the
North America Plate where the deformation occurs.

Yes it is a boundary. Using it as an example to illustrate
Intrapacific
deformation is stupid.

I wasn>t using it as an example of intraplate deformation.

Not you, but Ron. As usual.

--

Go back and reread what I posted. I didn>t say that the San Andreas was
an
example of intraplate deformation.

Ron you brought the San andreas fault where as we were discussing
deformations of fractures in the middle of the pacific. I reminded you
that those fractures are scars left by transform faults between two
ridge segments, then you introduced the san andreas fault as an example
of fracture deformations...
[/quote]
It is an example of crustal deformation, a classic one at that. And I
remind you that the San Andreas fault is a transform fault running between
two ridge segments. The point is that not all transform faults occur at
plate boundaries. There are plenty of them within the plates themselves.
And the point I>ve been making (as well as Stuart) is that intraplate
deformation does occur not only within the Pacific, but in the other oceanic
plates as well, not to mention the deformation that occurs within the
continental plates. Just because they don>t deform with the intensity that
occurs at the margins doesn>t mean that deformation doesn>t occur. What
Stuart and I have been trying to tell you is that even though the
deformation does occur, when compared to boundary conditions, you may as
well consider them to be rigid plates, and in fact, the models do just that.

Geprge
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: "TURCAUD BATH" Reply with quote

"TacAN" <zzz@xxx.xxx> wrote in message
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[quote]
"Sunny" <wombatlodge@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:elRGk.3878$sc2.176@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Go down to your local newsagent and buy a copy of the latest Nexus
Magazine October-November 2008 issue.
Commencing on page 21 there is an excellent article titled:
snip[/quote]

Graham, Turcaud lost me when he started claiming to be able to cure every
disease known to man.
He may well have been normal, many years ago, but now he is a raving lying
lunatic.

You are welcome to join him, in his fog of idiocy, and acceptance of his
outrageous claims, which are not backed up by one shred of proof.

If believing in the work conducted by our medical researchers, is in your
opinion, as having a "closed mind" so be it.

Just to refresh your memory of your idols "claims" :
1. The next Pope will be French
2. Cardinal Jean-Marie Lustiger of France was rightly elected Pope
on the second vote, but refused the Title on account of falling health
3. Sydney will be hit by a Tsunami
4. Sydney will run out of water
5. I can stop the drought and make it rain
("My Beechcraft Premier I, RB-22 is waiting for me to board")
( "upon landing I will only have 3 words to say for the normal
regime of Water ( Aquifers & Aqueducts ) to be restored")

6. I can cure :
Aids - within hours
Cancer - (in 5 days flat) ("immediate relief within an hour)
Tetanus - (in 1 second)
Drug addiction - (off the hook within minutes - cure in a month)
Rheumatism/Arthritis/Heart and Brain attacks/Tumours - immediately
I can stabilise, and sometimes cure ;
Diabetes/Pott/Parkinsons/Multiple Sclerosis>s/Alzheimer.

6a. "Anyway, coming back to Down syndrome children,
knowing the causes, it is easy then to apply proper cure and bring
such children back to normality."

7. "When you hear of someone dying of such easy to cure Disease,
please have a thought for Sir Turcaud !. and if the critical ill happens
to be, or to belong to the Mining & Political Criminals circle,
just know that I will enjoy that right retribution from the
Eternal & Eternal Justice."

8. " if I am not in Australia by October 14th next,
you will get that other 7 years DDD round. ... and the deadline
for this is the 21st of september, next Equinox indeed".

9. "I am the one who recently discovered a technique to curb
Hurricane strength".

10. Sydney will be hit by a 9.2 earthquake and tsunami on
23 Sep 05.

More (25 Sep 05) :
Do you know how long it takes to cure Tetanus in final phase
i.e. when the person is in inverted spring position & ready to die
from asphyxia ?
Answer : One second flat !
.. and with the Quacks 's allopathic sects, worshippers of Jenner &
Pasteur ?
Answer : End of the road !
Polio ? Damned easy and no drug taken either !
2 days and it 's over.
Diphtheria, Tuberculosis, Small Pox, Plagues bubonic or black,
Leprosy etc ... immediate remission !

Re enema again, I personally do this every full moon
and continue by a 3 days fast. When fasting long period,
say up to 40 days, like I did in the desert
by ex, enema have to be taken every day.

This is the point precisely of being a True Geologist,
to be at ease in any field at all since a True Geologist
is really a Universal Mind.
Now, how can the normal Universilities programmed
run-of-mill sci000ntific Villain, with his linear analytical
mole-like approach see the sun shining in a synthesis
approach indeed ? Impossible !
The first tool to act upon is your own self !

10 Nov 06 :
The correct quote is that I said that The brain tumour cure as well as
all cancers cure can be achieved in 5 DAYS and not in 5 seconds ....
On the the other end the Tetanus cure in last terminal stage can be
achieved in 1 second flat
With such horrendous beliefs as the ones held by those Clowns
masquerading as geologists the world over, don>t you think that other
certitudes of Mankind can be questionned as well !

The bad news with that extraordinary discovery re Cancer cure ( it
works as well with AIDS, and does wonder with arthrosis, and
arteriosclerosis too ) is that with the experience gained in Australia
in term of gratitude & recognition, I am not going to take any chance
anymore with handing out great discoveries to conditioned mass.
Further, and I speak with certainty, some of the Mining Criminals of
Newmont, Newcrest, BHP (+prrevious WMC, CRA) and their heirs, descents
& employees are affected by such deseases as well as that Political
rabble having supported such in Australia since 36 years .... parting
it is out of question that some of that manure benefit again from such
outstanding discovery indeed !

As in True Geology, once one has found the right & compulsery basis
upon establishing one 's reasonning ( in this case the UPL or Universal
Pressure Law ) in Archaelogy, Medecine, Economy, as well incidentally
as in Astrology, there is an incontournable ruler or datum point from
which the diffeent types of logic can be then correctly applied (
inductive & deductive ) If such point is not found, no proper reference
exists and hence all conclusions are erroneous. Contrarily to what you
think, all those cures in medecine use NO DRUGS AT ALL and are CHEAP
FREE, and further still VERY EASY TO IMPLEMENT indeed !

Still due to your Collective Crimes, and due to the reasons invoked
above I will probably take that secret to the grave rather than share
it with Antipodeans who do not deserve it indeed ! .... and just like
the Great Sandy Desert deposits if it was given out, the discoverer
would be held in contemp, evacuated and then insulted !
No thanks ! Not again.

19 Nov 06 :
The situation in China is not hopeless since going into Winter, while
in Australia it is ... and it will still get worse since we have
another month to go before the start of Summer, with then the most
dreadful searing heart in all its History. My estimate regarding
those values is 50 ° C in all major Cities soon after the start of New
Year !

Quoted from Bob Ellis, page 11 Daily Telegraph Mirror 16/6/95
"The Perfidious Frogs"
"They are a dense and arrogant people, idle, pretentious and rabbit
slaughtering, all of the men identical, as Gore Vidal so rightly noted
pot belly, green skin, stubble, limp cigarette on long wet under-lip,
unlit, but somehow dribbling ash in acres all down the pendant
clothing, large and serviceable penis, limp hand-shake, always a foot
shorter than their improbably glamorous and vapidly smiling wives,
torpid in conversation, unsanitary as guests, always holding a small
white yapping poodle, and soused on rough red wine from the age of
three. Which accounts, perhaps, for their mental incapacity in later
years. Hooked on snails, adultery and academic fashion, they have been
throughout this century a peril to human thought."

"Besides, bravest Frenchman was a sheila. Joan of Arc"
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