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Spinning The Weather
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obozn
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: Spinning The Weather Reply with quote

Any weather event nowadays always seems to be "unprecedented" according
to our whacko AGW friends!

8 October 2008



"It rained and it rained and it rained. Piglet told himself that never
in all his life, and he was goodness knows how old - three, was it, or
four? - never had he seen so much rain. Days and days and days."
[Chapter IX, 'In which Piglet is Entirely Surrounded by Water', in
Winnie-the-Pooh by A. A. Milne (1926)]



"Things have recently become much worse. Those we charge with looking
after the nation>s infrastructure - central and local government, and
industries such as water, transport and insurance - routinely blame
'unprecedented' weather when they fail to do their job." (Philip Eden,
Vice-President of the Royal Meteorological Society, October 7. Picture:
flooding in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, 2007)



I missed this superb piece yesterday by Philip Eden, Vice-President of
the Royal Meteorological Society ['Whether it>s fair to blame the
weather', The Daily Telegraph, October 7], in which he is scathing about
the way politicians, officials, and the media spin severe -
"unprecedented" - weather events:



"What we are lacking these days in the reporting of severe weather
events are proper historical and statistical contexts. Destructive
summer floods such as those of 2007 [see picture] have happened before:
in 1986, in Wales and north-west England; in 1968, across the West
Country and the Midlands in July and in London and the South East in
September; in 1930 and 1931 in Yorkshire; and in 1912 in East Anglia.



Extreme weather is part and parcel of our climate and it is wrong to
treat it as new every time it happens. Last weekend>s downpours over
central and southern England, which triggered 75 flood warnings, are a
case in point.



Calling such events 'unprecedented' provides an excuse for failure for
those we pay to maintain the infrastructure. Sadly, as someone once
said: 'Thirty years ago, these people had the grace to look thoroughly
uncomfortable when they lied to us; now, they lie with a smile on their
face.'"



Just so. The inflation of spinning in the name of 'global warming' and
official excuses has about as much historical validity as poor young
Piglet>s "three, was it, or four?" years in the Forest.



Time to "Pooh! Pooh!" such nonsense, I feel.



Well done Philip Eden.



http://web.mac.com/sinfonia1/Global_Warming_Politics/A_Hot_Topic_Blog/Entries/2008/10/8_Spinning_The_Weather.html
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Warmest Regards

Bonzo


"Global warming is the attack on capitalism that socialism couldn>t
bring." Jack Welch, Former General Electric CEO
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Mauried
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: Spinning The Weather Reply with quote

On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 16:50:30 +1100, "obozn" <obozn@v.com> wrote:

[quote]Any weather event nowadays always seems to be "unprecedented" according
to our whacko AGW friends!

8 October 2008



"It rained and it rained and it rained. Piglet told himself that never
in all his life, and he was goodness knows how old - three, was it, or
four? - never had he seen so much rain. Days and days and days."
[Chapter IX, 'In which Piglet is Entirely Surrounded by Water', in
Winnie-the-Pooh by A. A. Milne (1926)]



"Things have recently become much worse. Those we charge with looking
after the nation>s infrastructure - central and local government, and
industries such as water, transport and insurance - routinely blame
'unprecedented' weather when they fail to do their job." (Philip Eden,
Vice-President of the Royal Meteorological Society, October 7. Picture:
flooding in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, 2007)



I missed this superb piece yesterday by Philip Eden, Vice-President of
the Royal Meteorological Society ['Whether it>s fair to blame the
weather', The Daily Telegraph, October 7], in which he is scathing about
the way politicians, officials, and the media spin severe -
"unprecedented" - weather events:



"What we are lacking these days in the reporting of severe weather
events are proper historical and statistical contexts. Destructive
summer floods such as those of 2007 [see picture] have happened before:
in 1986, in Wales and north-west England; in 1968, across the West
Country and the Midlands in July and in London and the South East in
September; in 1930 and 1931 in Yorkshire; and in 1912 in East Anglia.



Extreme weather is part and parcel of our climate and it is wrong to
treat it as new every time it happens. Last weekend>s downpours over
central and southern England, which triggered 75 flood warnings, are a
case in point.



Calling such events 'unprecedented' provides an excuse for failure for
those we pay to maintain the infrastructure. Sadly, as someone once
said: 'Thirty years ago, these people had the grace to look thoroughly
uncomfortable when they lied to us; now, they lie with a smile on their
face.'"



Just so. The inflation of spinning in the name of 'global warming' and
official excuses has about as much historical validity as poor young
Piglet>s "three, was it, or four?" years in the Forest.



Time to "Pooh! Pooh!" such nonsense, I feel.



Well done Philip Eden.



http://web.mac.com/sinfonia1/Global_Warming_Politics/A_Hot_Topic_Blog/Entries/2008/10/8_Spinning_The_Weather.html
--


Warmest Regards

Bonzo


"Global warming is the attack on capitalism that socialism couldn>t
bring." Jack Welch, Former General Electric CEO

[/quote]

The local ABC news used to give weather reports which gave you what
the days weather had been, as well as some historical data about what
the average was for the same time the last year, and whether the
current temperatures / rainfall were records or not .

Now, all you get is what the days weather has been.
All the other historical data has been dropped.
You might wonder why.
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Weatherlawyer
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: Spinning The Weather Reply with quote

On Oct 9, 7:56 am, maur...@tpg.com.au (Mauried) wrote:
[quote]On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 16:50:30 +1100, "obozn" <ob...@v.com> wrote:
Any weather event nowadays always seems to be "unprecedented" according
to our whacko AGW friends!

8 October 2008

"It rained and it rained and it rained. Piglet told himself that never
in all his life, and he was goodness knows how old - three, was it, or
four? - never had he seen so much rain. Days and days and days."
[Chapter IX, 'In which Piglet is Entirely Surrounded by Water', in
Winnie-the-Pooh by A. A. Milne (1926)]

"Things have recently become much worse. Those we charge with looking
after the nation>s infrastructure - central and local government, and
industries such as water, transport and insurance - routinely blame
'unprecedented' weather when they fail to do their job." (Philip Eden,
Vice-President of the Royal Meteorological Society, October 7. Picture:
flooding in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, 2007)

I missed this superb piece yesterday by Philip Eden, Vice-President of
the Royal Meteorological Society ['Whether it>s fair to blame the
weather', The Daily Telegraph, October 7], in which he is scathing about
the way politicians, officials, and the media spin severe -
"unprecedented" - weather events:

"What we are lacking these days in the reporting of severe weather
events are proper historical and statistical contexts. Destructive
summer floods such as those of 2007 [see picture] have happened before:
in 1986, in Wales and north-west England; in 1968, across the West
Country and the Midlands in July and in London and the South East in
September; in 1930 and 1931 in Yorkshire; and in 1912 in East Anglia.

Extreme weather is part and parcel of our climate and it is wrong to
treat it as new every time it happens. Last weekend>s downpours over
central and southern England, which triggered 75 flood warnings, are a
case in point.

Calling such events 'unprecedented' provides an excuse for failure for
those we pay to maintain the infrastructure. Sadly, as someone once
said: 'Thirty years ago, these people had the grace to look thoroughly
uncomfortable when they lied to us; now, they lie with a smile on their
face.'"

Just so. The inflation of spinning in the name of 'global warming' and
official excuses has about as much historical validity as poor young
Piglet>s "three, was it, or four?" years in the Forest.

Time to "Pooh! Pooh!" such nonsense, I feel.

Well done Philip Eden.

http://web.mac.com/sinfonia1/Global_Warming_Politics/A_Hot_Topic_Blog...
--

Warmest Regards

Bonzo

"Global warming is the attack on capitalism that socialism couldn>t
bring." Jack Welch, Former General Electric CEO

The local ABC news used to give weather reports which gave you what
the days weather had been, as well as some historical data about what
the average was for the same time the last year, and whether the
current temperatures / rainfall were records or not .

Now, all you get is what the days weather has been.
All the other historical data has been dropped.
You might wonder why.
[/quote]
In Britain the reports are not dumbed down any more -they can>t be and
still meet the criterion for weather forecasts.

The idiots presenting them accept a 2 minute slot during which they
wave at a very uninspired and almost featureless background.

And think themselves luck they are not out in the rain. Ghastly in
every way.

I am surprised they have time to latch on to any so called disasters
but in the short time available, getting any public warnings out takes
a fair chunk of their time, maybe an whole quarter of a minute if they
have much to say.

They must be on good money. I wouldn>t stoop for it.

The worst output is when a presenter does a stint on dramatic
incidents. Usually featured as "Monstrous wretched doom III" or some-
such.

You can hear the narrator reaching for a suitable emotion as a
crescendo approaches. I don>t watch them any more but if I do find
myself looking on, it>s the first thing that strikes me.
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