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Ramblin Bob · Guest

http://www.newkerala.com/topstory-fullnews-46478.html

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/gobekli-tepe.html

Guest

On Nov 17, 8:14 pm, Ramblin Bob <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
[quote]http://www.newkerala.com/topstory-fullnews-46478.html

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/gobekli-tepe.html
[/quote]
Do you know where you can put your darned Göbekli Tepe?

Franz Gnaedinger · Guest

On Nov 17, 7:14 pm, Ramblin Bob <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
[quote]
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/gobekli-tepe.html
[/quote]
Thanks, Ramblin Bob, for the second link (quoted above).
The picture shows temple D, with the pair of central pillars,
on the left side pillar 18 with the right arm, in the bend
a fox, on the right side pillar 31. The view is to the southeast.
Temple D forms an oval or rather an egg, the long axis
measuring twenty meters, while the central pillars stretch
to a height of five meters above the former floor - at present
they are only half excavated; for security reasons their
lower parts are still embedded in the rubble that was used
for filling up the nineteen or more temples in around 9 500
BP when the 'nabled hill' Göbekli Tepe was abandoned.
Klaus Schmidt speaks of temple D as the Stone Age zoo.
Reliefs of many animals are seen on the pillars: bulls,
gazelles, boars, foxes, lions, various birds, also scorpions,
spiders, insects, and the omnipresent snakes. I just wrote
an interpretation of temple D in sci.lang, in my thread

Magdalenian experiment (continuation)

and the series of messages is called

From the Ice Age to the Bible (parts 1 - 6)

The biggest surprise is the hieroglyphic inscription
on the narrow southern face of pillar 18 of temple D.
You will find my explanation in the above series of
messages. I began posting about Göbekli Tepe
to sci.archaeology in the late 1990s. Nobody took
notice. Now even worse in sci.lang, where I am
confronted with a veritable mob that got not the least
idea of science.

Readers in German may buy the paper edition of
Klaus Schmidt>s wonderful book on Göbekli Tepe,
Sie bauten die ersten Tempel, 25 Swiss Francs,
less than 20 Euros, with over hundred photographs
in English ;-)

Guest

On Nov 18, 11:20 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
[quote]Now even worse in sci.lang, where I am
confronted with a veritable mob that got not the least
idea of science.
[/quote]
Nope. If there is such a mob, you are its leader. Why do you stay here
if you think this is a bad place for your "science"? Couldn>t you find
a more receptive audience somewhere else?

António Marques · Guest

Craoibhin66@gmail.com wrote:
[quote]On Nov 18, 11:20 am, Franz Gnaedinger<f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
Now even worse in sci.lang, where I am
confronted with a veritable mob that got not the least
idea of science.

Nope. If there is such a mob, you are its leader. Why do you stay here
if you think this is a bad place for your "science"? Couldn>t you find
a more receptive audience somewhere else?
[/quote]
There used to be an alt.lang, come to think of it.
--
António Marques

Guest

On Nov 19, 10:02 pm, Hayabusa <peregr...@t-online.de> wrote:
[quote]On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:20:34 -0800 (PST), Franz Gnaedinger

f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
Readers in German may buy the paper edition of
Klaus Schmidt>s wonderful book on Göbekli Tepe,
Sie bauten die ersten Tempel, 25 Swiss Francs,
less than 20 Euros, with over hundred photographs
in English ;-)

I did, highly recommendable.

Hayabusa
[/quote]
This "Hayabusa" is of course one of Franz Gnaedinger>s fictitious
personalities. No person in his right mind would ever thank Franz for
anything.

Guest

On Nov 20, 12:45 am, Hayabusa <peregr...@t-online.de> wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:30:58 -0800 (PST), Craoibhi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 19, 10:02 pm, Hayabusa <peregr...@t-online.de> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:20:34 -0800 (PST), Franz Gnaedinger

f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
Readers in German may buy the paper edition of
Klaus Schmidt>s wonderful book on Göbekli Tepe,
Sie bauten die ersten Tempel, 25 Swiss Francs,
less than 20 Euros, with over hundred photographs
in English ;-)

I did, highly recommendable.

Hayabusa

This "Hayabusa" is of course one of Franz Gnaedinger>s fictitious
personalities. No person in his right mind would ever thank Franz for
anything.

No, I am myself, I am not somebody else. Gnaedinger lives, as far as I
know, in the Alps. I live in Aix-la-Chapelle, Germany, and make my
living in Liège, Belgium. Hayabusa is my German first name translated
into Japanese. And I am not thanking Gnaedinger for anything, I just
happily support his recommendation for a book which I have read with
delight.
[/quote]
Any book recommended by Gnaedinger must be crap, by the very fact that
it is recommended by Gnaedinger, and any person saying anything
positive about Gnaedinger is Gnaedinger.

Guest

On Nov 20, 12:58 am, Peter Alaca <p.al...@purple.invalid> wrote:
[quote]Hayabusa <peregr...@t-online.de> 19/11/2008 23:45 wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:30:58 -0800 (PST), Craoibhi...@gmail.com wrote:

On Nov 19, 10:02 pm, Hayabusa <peregr...@t-online.de> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:20:34 -0800 (PST), Franz Gnaedinger

f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
Readers in German may buy the paper edition of
Klaus Schmidt>s wonderful book on Göbekli Tepe,
Sie bauten die ersten Tempel, 25 Swiss Francs,
less than 20 Euros, with over hundred photographs
in English ;-)
I did, highly recommendable.
This "Hayabusa" is of course one of Franz Gnaedinger>s fictitious
personalities. No person in his right mind would ever thank Franz for
anything.
No, I am myself, I am not somebody else. Gnaedinger lives, as far as I
know, in the Alps. I live in Aix-la-Chapelle, Germany, and make my
living in Liège, Belgium. Hayabusa is my German first name translated
into Japanese. And I am not thanking Gnaedinger for anything, I just
happily support his recommendation for a book which I have read with
delight.

Hayabusa

And I have no idea who this Craoibhi...@gmail.com might be.
Is it a Finish sock puppet of FG?
[/quote]
You are obviously a sock puppet of Gnaedinger too.

Hayabusa · Guest

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:20:34 -0800 (PST), Franz Gnaedinger
<frgn@bluemail.ch> wrote:

[quote]Readers in German may buy the paper edition of
Klaus Schmidt>s wonderful book on Göbekli Tepe,
Sie bauten die ersten Tempel, 25 Swiss Francs,
less than 20 Euros, with over hundred photographs
in English ;-)
[/quote]

I did, highly recommendable.

Hayabusa

Hayabusa · Guest

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:30:58 -0800 (PST), Craoibhin66@gmail.com wrote:

[quote]On Nov 19, 10:02 pm, Hayabusa <peregr...@t-online.de> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:20:34 -0800 (PST), Franz Gnaedinger

f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
Readers in German may buy the paper edition of
Klaus Schmidt>s wonderful book on Göbekli Tepe,
Sie bauten die ersten Tempel, 25 Swiss Francs,
less than 20 Euros, with over hundred photographs
in English ;-)

I did, highly recommendable.

Hayabusa

This "Hayabusa" is of course one of Franz Gnaedinger>s fictitious
personalities. No person in his right mind would ever thank Franz for
anything.
[/quote]
No, I am myself, I am not somebody else. Gnaedinger lives, as far as I
know, in the Alps. I live in Aix-la-Chapelle, Germany, and make my
living in Liège, Belgium. Hayabusa is my German first name translated
into Japanese. And I am not thanking Gnaedinger for anything, I just
happily support his recommendation for a book which I have read with
delight.

Hayabusa

Peter Alaca · Guest

Hayabusa <peregrine@t-online.de> 19/11/2008 23:45 wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:30:58 -0800 (PST), Craoibhin66@gmail.com wrote:

On Nov 19, 10:02 pm, Hayabusa <peregr...@t-online.de> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:20:34 -0800 (PST), Franz Gnaedinger

f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
Readers in German may buy the paper edition of
Klaus Schmidt>s wonderful book on Göbekli Tepe,
Sie bauten die ersten Tempel, 25 Swiss Francs,
less than 20 Euros, with over hundred photographs
in English ;-)

I did, highly recommendable.

This "Hayabusa" is of course one of Franz Gnaedinger>s fictitious
personalities. No person in his right mind would ever thank Franz for
anything.

No, I am myself, I am not somebody else. Gnaedinger lives, as far as I
know, in the Alps. I live in Aix-la-Chapelle, Germany, and make my
living in Liège, Belgium. Hayabusa is my German first name translated
into Japanese. And I am not thanking Gnaedinger for anything, I just
happily support his recommendation for a book which I have read with
delight.

Hayabusa
[/quote]
And I have no idea who this Craoibhin66@gmail.com might be.
Is it a Finish sock puppet of FG?

Peter Alaca · Guest

Craoibhin66@gmail.com 20/11/2008 00:40 wrote:
[quote]On Nov 20, 12:58 am, Peter Alaca <p.al...@purple.invalid> wrote:
Hayabusa <peregr...@t-online.de> 19/11/2008 23:45 wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:30:58 -0800 (PST), Craoibhi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 19, 10:02 pm, Hayabusa <peregr...@t-online.de> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:20:34 -0800 (PST), Franz Gnaedinger
f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
Readers in German may buy the paper edition of
Klaus Schmidt>s wonderful book on Göbekli Tepe,
Sie bauten die ersten Tempel, 25 Swiss Francs,
less than 20 Euros, with over hundred photographs
in English ;-)
I did, highly recommendable.
This "Hayabusa" is of course one of Franz Gnaedinger>s fictitious
personalities. No person in his right mind would ever thank Franz for
anything.
No, I am myself, I am not somebody else. Gnaedinger lives, as far as I
know, in the Alps. I live in Aix-la-Chapelle, Germany, and make my
living in Liège, Belgium. Hayabusa is my German first name translated
into Japanese. And I am not thanking Gnaedinger for anything, I just
happily support his recommendation for a book which I have read with
delight.
Hayabusa

And I have no idea who this Craoibhi...@gmail.com might be.
Is it a Finish sock puppet of FG?

You are obviously a sock puppet of Gnaedinger too.
[/quote]
Aren>t we all?

Franz Gnaedinger · Guest

On Nov 19, 11:58 pm, Peter Alaca <p.al...@purple.invalid> wrote:
[quote]
And I have no idea who this Craoibhi...@gmail.com might be.
Is it a Finish sock puppet of FG?
[/quote]
The contrary, he is my stalker: Panu Petteri Höglund
phoglund alias craoibhin66 alias he as his own
good friend and pupil Sean Connor soconn1 alias
he himself as his own brother in arms and stalking aid
John Hobart Kyle jhobartkyle johnk, leader of the mob
in sci.lang. Using his many aliases he can praise
himself and assist himself in stalking me and in
killrating my messages - he bragged being my one
and only killrater. Meanwhile I got over 5,000 ratings,
most of them killratings. Considering his many web
identities, he might well be responsible for a large
part of them. He attended one two three universities,
apparently to no avail, so he tries to become a
scientist and make himself a name by stalking me.

Now that even "that poor, useless, innocent, mildewed
old fossil, the Smithsonian Institute" (Mark Twain)
took notice of Göbekli Tepe, can anyone go on ignoring
the greatest archaeological discovery of our time?
Yes, the mob of sci.lang led by Him of the Many Aliasses.

Franz Gnaedinger · Guest

On Nov 19, 9:02 pm, Hayabusa <peregr...@t-online.de> wrote:
[quote]On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:20:34 -0800 (PST), Franz Gnaedinger

f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
Readers in German may buy the paper edition of
Klaus Schmidt>s wonderful book on Göbekli Tepe,
Sie bauten die ersten Tempel, 25 Swiss Francs,
less than 20 Euros, with over hundred photographs
in English ;-)

I did, highly recommendable.

Hayabusa
[/quote]
Are you Turkish? but living in Germany?
Your name sounds Turkish to me, while
your e-mail address ends on .de Anyway,
I don>t understand why the Germans in
sci.archaeology and sci.lang ignore the
good work done by their own, Klaus Schmidt,
excavator of Göbekli Tepe, Derk Ohlenroth,
decipherer of the Elaia and Tiryns Disc
(my naming of the object), and late Manfred
Korfmann, leader of the excavations at the
Hissarlik (Troy). They should be proud of
their own. German archaeology is not only
Juergen SSpanuth et al., favored in sci.arch
for a long time.

Franz Gnaedinger · Guest

On Nov 20, 8:25 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 19, 9:02 pm, Hayabusa <peregr...@t-online.de> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:20:34 -0800 (PST), Franz Gnaedinger

f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
Readers in German may buy the paper edition of
Klaus Schmidt>s wonderful book on Göbekli Tepe,
Sie bauten die ersten Tempel, 25 Swiss Francs,
less than 20 Euros, with over hundred photographs
in English ;-)

I did, highly recommendable.

Hayabusa

Are you Turkish? but living in Germany?
Your name sounds Turkish to me, while
your e-mail address ends on .de Anyway,
I don>t understand why the Germans in
sci.archaeology and sci.lang ignore the
good work done by their own, Klaus Schmidt,
excavator of Göbekli Tepe, Derk Ohlenroth,
decipherer of the Elaia and Tiryns Disc
(my naming of the object), and late Manfred
Korfmann, leader of the excavations at the
Hissarlik (Troy). They should be proud of
their own. German archaeology is not only
Juergen SSpanuth et al., favored in sci.arch
for a long time.
[/quote]
And the favoring of SSpanuth et al. in sci.arch
went along with the complete ignoring of all things
concerning Anatolia. Anatolia just did not exist
for sci.archaeology. Has anything changed lately?


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