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 Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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On Nov 20, 6:16 pm, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go...@gmail.com>
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[quote]...
Try not to take this personally (although I shall understand if you do), but
whenever I hear someone use the "war on..." formulation unironically, in any
context, I just presume I am dealing with a nitwit, someone who regurgitates
the inane talking points of the day, regardless of what they are. Or what
day it is. ...
[/quote]
It>s hard to keep up with changing acceptable terminology.
Hopefully the Obama administration will publish lists of terms
that we are free to use, free speech being important to the
left, as we outside of the universities are well aware. |
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Kingo Gondo
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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<sirblob2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]On 20 nov, 15:26, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go...@gmail.com> wrote:
sirbl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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time for some gubbamunt? after all, the culture industry>s as dead as
a dodo.
You inadvertently (naturally) raise (not pose) a good question--why IS
the
"culture industry" as dead as a dodo?
ok you stewe and calvin:
[/quote]
Oh yeah--from this thread alone it is obvious we are of the same mindset.
Who could miss that? |
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steve
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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On 20-Nov-2008, sirblob2@hotmail.com wrote:
[quote]ok you stewe and calvin:
let>s just say cunts rule the world. they>re expensive to maintain,
wanna go traveling buy condoms and such, not to mentions curtains.
however, when it came to 'the free flow of information', we>ve become
one huge communist regime. everything on youtube is one buttfuck after
the other on the von mises and hayek backend of things
[/quote]
Nope...not getting any of this.
I suppose it>s too much to expect you to make sense once in a while.
--
We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We
laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate
and bid the geldings to be fruitful. - C.S. Lewis |
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calvin
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:59 am Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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On Nov 20, 10:44 pm, trotsky <gmsi...@email.com> wrote:
[quote]calvin wrote:
On Nov 20, 9:45 am, trotsky <gmsi...@email.com> wrote:
calvin wrote:
On Nov 20, 6:17 am, sirbl...@hotmail.com wrote:
time for some gubbamunt? after all, the culture industry>s as dead as
a dodo. has the world gone immoral?
has it become one gigantic intellectual commune?
Of course we need more government, in everything, and
now that the Democrats have absolute power, that>s
what we>re going to get. So rejoice.
Calvin, you>re an ass anyway, but do you have to resort to out and out
lying?
...
Let>s face it, calvin, you and your ilk are lying pieces of trash and
those right wing radio talking points just aren>t going to fly anymore..
My suggestion is you take a permanent vacation--from life.
I was trying to talk on the bright side, your bright side.
But let>s look at one thing. A few weeks ago I had to
pay over $4 per gallon of gas. Then a few days ago I
had to pay $1.97 for the same kind of gas at the same
place. Under Bush, it went up and down. Surely it
will go up again. Now, under Obama, let>s see if it ever
comes down again. Obama said, when it was over $4,
that he didn>t mind that.
Cite?
[/quote]
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/11/obama-id-like-higher-gas-prices-just-not-so-quickly/
[quote]He was just sorry it went up so
fast. I>m not saying that the price of gas is the most
important thing, only that it is something that everyone
experiences directly and personally.
This is just more right wing radio talking points bullshit. You>re a
Pavlov>s dog, calvin, eating up their product every time they ring a
bell. Pathetic.
[/quote]
Thou art that. |
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Kingo Gondo
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:16 am Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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"calvin" <crice5@windstream.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 20, 11:28 am, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go...@gmail.com>
wrote:
[quote]"calvin" <cri...@windstream.net> wrote in message
On Nov 20, 10:26 am, schu...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote:
In rec.arts.movies.past-films calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
Of course we need more government, in everything, and
now that the Democrats have absolute power, that>s
what we>re going to get. So rejoice.
Since the Democrats seem to be interested in restoring some of the
civil liberties that were taken away from you by the Bush
administration,
I>d say that in fact, you personally are likely to get less
government.
You mean my liberty to make trans-continental phone calls
to Al-Qaeda members? You>re right, at least I>ll be free to do
that again.
It is at times like this that you sound the most idiotic, calvin. Can you
not help yourself--is it a reflex?
http://www.conservative.org/pressroom/030408b.asp
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2003/04/11/aclu/
http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0603/0603biggov.htm
[/quote]
(It>s mighty tedious having to correct the attributions hierarchy
after your newsreader gets through with it.)
I looked over the links you gave. Sorry, but I believe the war
on terror <snip>.
Reply:
Try not to take this personally (although I shall understand if you do), but
whenever I hear someone use the "war on..." formulation unironically, in any
context, I just presume I am dealing with a nitwit, someone who regurgitates
the inane talking points of the day, regardless of what they are. Or what
day it is.
My point to you was that disgust with the civil liberties agenda of the Bush
Administration ran deep on the right, at least the so-called "Old Right".
The neo-cons, that is, the Trotskyites who rebranded themselves for
respectability, they didn>t give a shit about civil liberties. But then
again neither did their progenitor.
PS:
If you are reading from the massively clusterfucked "Google Groups", you>ve
got no one to blame but yourself for problems with an attributions
hierarchy. |
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trotsky
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:34 am Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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calvin wrote:
[quote]On Nov 20, 9:45 am, trotsky <gmsi...@email.com> wrote:
calvin wrote:
On Nov 20, 6:17 am, sirbl...@hotmail.com wrote:
time for some gubbamunt? after all, the culture industry>s as dead as
a dodo. has the world gone immoral?
has it become one gigantic intellectual commune?
Of course we need more government, in everything, and
now that the Democrats have absolute power, that>s
what we>re going to get. So rejoice.
Calvin, you>re an ass anyway, but do you have to resort to out and out
lying?
...
Let>s face it, calvin, you and your ilk are lying pieces of trash and
those right wing radio talking points just aren>t going to fly anymore.
My suggestion is you take a permanent vacation--from life.
I was trying to talk on the bright side, your bright side.
But let>s look at one thing. A few weeks ago I had to
pay over $4 per gallon of gas. Then a few days ago I
had to pay $1.97 for the same kind of gas at the same
place. Under Bush, it went up and down. Surely it
will go up again. Now, under Obama, let>s see if it ever
comes down again. Obama said, when it was over $4,
that he didn>t mind that.
[/quote]
Cite?
He was just sorry it went up so
[quote]fast. I>m not saying that the price of gas is the most
important thing, only that it is something that everyone
experiences directly and personally.
[/quote]
This is just more right wing radio talking points bullshit. You>re a
Pavlov>s dog, calvin, eating up their product every time they ring a
bell. Pathetic. |
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trotsky
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:34 am Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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calvin wrote:
[quote]On Nov 20, 10:44 pm, trotsky <gmsi...@email.com> wrote:
calvin wrote:
On Nov 20, 9:45 am, trotsky <gmsi...@email.com> wrote:
calvin wrote:
On Nov 20, 6:17 am, sirbl...@hotmail.com wrote:
time for some gubbamunt? after all, the culture industry>s as dead as
a dodo. has the world gone immoral?
has it become one gigantic intellectual commune?
Of course we need more government, in everything, and
now that the Democrats have absolute power, that>s
what we>re going to get. So rejoice.
Calvin, you>re an ass anyway, but do you have to resort to out and out
lying?
...
Let>s face it, calvin, you and your ilk are lying pieces of trash and
those right wing radio talking points just aren>t going to fly anymore.
My suggestion is you take a permanent vacation--from life.
I was trying to talk on the bright side, your bright side.
But let>s look at one thing. A few weeks ago I had to
pay over $4 per gallon of gas. Then a few days ago I
had to pay $1.97 for the same kind of gas at the same
place. Under Bush, it went up and down. Surely it
will go up again. Now, under Obama, let>s see if it ever
comes down again. Obama said, when it was over $4,
that he didn>t mind that.
Cite?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/11/obama-id-like-higher-gas-prices-just-not-so-quickly/
[/quote]
How predictable--it says "video no longer available."
[quote]He was just sorry it went up so
fast. I>m not saying that the price of gas is the most
important thing, only that it is something that everyone
experiences directly and personally.
This is just more right wing radio talking points bullshit. You>re a
Pavlov>s dog, calvin, eating up their product every time they ring a
bell. Pathetic.
Thou art that.
[/quote]
An I know you are but what am I--I am nonplussed. |
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moviePig
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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On Nov 20, 5:58 pm, calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 20, 11:28 am, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go...@gmail.com
wrote:
... I don>t believe that Bush and Cheney
have wanted to take away rights of the people. They simply
have found it necessary to take certain actions...
[/quote]
For maximum impact, I>ve deliberately stripped your words above of any
mitigating context. As they now thus stand, I think they may
synopsize a real dilemma that confronts the Free World... highlighted,
e.g., by how out of place the word "simply" seems...
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YOUR taste at work...
http://www.moviepig.com |
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calvin
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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On Nov 21, 9:25 am, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 20, 5:58 pm, calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
On Nov 20, 11:28 am, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go...@gmail.com
wrote:
... I don>t believe that Bush and Cheney
have wanted to take away rights of the people. They simply
have found it necessary to take certain actions...
For maximum impact, I>ve deliberately stripped your words above of any
mitigating context. As they now thus stand, I think they may
synopsize a real dilemma that confronts the Free World... highlighted,
e.g., by how out of place the word "simply" seems...
[/quote]
You don>t have a point, because "simply" was simply
a stylistic lapse on my part. Simply removing it
from my statement deflates your point. |
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moviePig
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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On Nov 21, 9:33 am, calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 21, 9:25 am, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
On Nov 20, 5:58 pm, calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
On Nov 20, 11:28 am, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go...@gmail.com
wrote:
... I don>t believe that Bush and Cheney
have wanted to take away rights of the people. They simply
have found it necessary to take certain actions...
For maximum impact, I>ve deliberately stripped your words above of any
mitigating context. As they now thus stand, I think they may
synopsize a real dilemma that confronts the Free World... highlighted,
e.g., by how out of place the word "simply" seems...
You don>t have a point, because "simply" was simply
a stylistic lapse on my part. Simply removing it
from my statement deflates your point.
[/quote]
Well, I thought "certain" also had a certain cachet...
Meanwhile, of course, my point has nothing to do with your stylisms,
nor necessarily (as I said) even whatever content you may have
originally intended.
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YOUR taste at work...
http://www.moviepig.com |
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calvin
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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On Nov 21, 9:44 am, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 21, 9:33 am, calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
On Nov 21, 9:25 am, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
On Nov 20, 5:58 pm, calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
On Nov 20, 11:28 am, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go...@gmail.com
wrote:
... I don>t believe that Bush and Cheney
have wanted to take away rights of the people. They simply
have found it necessary to take certain actions...
For maximum impact, I>ve deliberately stripped your words above of any
mitigating context. As they now thus stand, I think they may
synopsize a real dilemma that confronts the Free World... highlighted,
e.g., by how out of place the word "simply" seems...
You don>t have a point, because "simply" was simply
a stylistic lapse on my part. Simply removing it
from my statement deflates your point.
Well, I thought "certain" also had a certain cachet...
[/quote]
Then simply replace "certain actions" with "action".
[quote]Meanwhile, of course, my point has nothing to do with your stylisms,
nor necessarily (as I said) even whatever content you may have
originally intended.
[/quote]
Then let someone besides me try to discover your point. |
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calvin
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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On Nov 21, 9:58 am, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go...@gmail.com>
wrote:
[Rather than laboriously correcting the attribution hierarchy,
I just deleted it.]
[quote]Again, you seem uncomprehending--I am encompassing bipartisan antecedents
that go back in to the 60s and 70s, at least (the "war on poverty", the "war
on drugs", etc.). Almost any "war on" you can name has been used as an
attempted blank check to increase government power and spending.
[/quote]
Replace "war on terror" with "reasonable and hopefully effective
efforts to eliminate or at least reduce terrorist attacks against the
United States".
[quote]Yet, in your deliberately simple minded way (and I say deliberately simple
minded, because you never seemed truly dumb to me), you resort to truly
idiotic reductive partisanship in response. It does seem you genuinely
cannot help yourself--old dog, new tricks, etc., etc., I guess.
[/quote]
I just thought it was fun in the present case, juxtaposing certain
words and phrases. |
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calvin
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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On Nov 21, 10:22 am, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go...@gmail.com>
wrote:
[quote]"calvin" <cri...@windstream.net> wrote in message
news:ed1b7149-aa2c-42bf-a062-7b9e35ff2dfa@f20g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 21, 9:58 am, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go...@gmail.com
wrote:
[Rather than laboriously correcting the attribution hierarchy,
I just deleted it.]
Again, you seem uncomprehending--I am encompassing bipartisan antecedents
that go back in to the 60s and 70s, at least (the "war on poverty", the
"war
on drugs", etc.). Almost any "war on" you can name has been used as an
attempted blank check to increase government power and spending.
Replace "war on terror" with "reasonable and hopefully effective
efforts to eliminate or at least reduce terrorist attacks against the
United States".
[/quote]
[attribution correction follows]
[quote]R E P L Y
Too bad they didn>t, substantively. Instead, we were given years of childish
hysteria and deliberate fear-mongering.
What is today>s color code, anyway?
[/quote]
Why do you feel you are above keeping attributions straight?
What makes you so special? I thought collectivists believed
in cooperation, but I guess you>re one of those special
collectivists to whom the rules will not apply. |
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calvin
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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On Nov 21, 11:14 am, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go...@gmail.com>
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[quote]I retract my previous comments about you not being truly dumb.
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Good, that makes it easier than a balancing act. |
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Kingo Gondo
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: so what does hayek and von mises think of youtube and th |
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"calvin" <crice5@windstream.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 20, 6:16 pm, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go...@gmail.com>
wrote:
[quote]...
Try not to take this personally (although I shall understand if you do),
but
whenever I hear someone use the "war on..." formulation unironically, in
any
context, I just presume I am dealing with a nitwit, someone who
regurgitates
the inane talking points of the day, regardless of what they are. Or what
day it is. ...
[/quote]
It>s hard to keep up with changing acceptable terminology.
Hopefully the Obama administration will publish lists of terms
that we are free to use, free speech being important to the
left, as we outside of the universities are well aware.
Reply:
Again, you seem uncomprehending--I am encompassing bipartisan antecedents
that go back in to the 60s and 70s, at least (the "war on poverty", the "war
on drugs", etc.). Almost any "war on" you can name has been used as an
attempted blank check to increase government power and spending.
Yet, in your deliberately simple minded way (and I say deliberately simple
minded, because you never seemed truly dumb to me), you resort to truly
idiotic reductive partisanship in response. It does seem you genuinely
cannot help yourself--old dog, new tricks, etc., etc., I guess. |
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