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D.
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 Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:00 am Post subject: Seti Hogging Resources |
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SETI has always used roughly 35% of my computers resources, on an anthlon
2400 XP Pro w/ seti 3.08 and seti spy 3.3.3. Over the last month I have
watched seti slowly creep up devoring more CPU usage.
Last month it demanded 35.4% CPU power and has slowly creeped up and as of
this morning demands 36.1% I realize overall this is a small change but
anyone have idea why seti is slowly taking over the CPU?
Any Idea>s or input appreciated.
Thanks,
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Nick M V Salmon
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:00 am Post subject: Re: Seti Hogging Resources |
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"D." <Dereka_k@NotSoHotmail.com> wrote
[quote]SETI has always used roughly 35% of my computers resources, on an anthlon
2400 XP Pro w/ seti 3.08 and seti spy 3.3.3. Over the last month I have
watched seti slowly creep up devoring more CPU usage.
Last month it demanded 35.4% CPU power and has slowly creeped up and as
of
this morning demands 36.1% I realize overall this is a small change but
anyone have idea why seti is slowly taking over the CPU?
Any Idea>s or input appreciated.
[/quote]
Heh, that>s funny - something is decidedly wrong - when you>re not doing
anything else, SETI should take _all_ the system>s resources. ie. 99.x%..!
SETI@home runs at 'low' priority by default thus it will 'get out of the
way' when pretty much anything else accesses the CPU.
Eg; I had Windows Media Player (wmplayer.exe) running a movie (.wmv) on
another machine whilst SETI was running in _normal_ priority, letalone 'low'
priority - the movie still played smooth as silk though - that machine has
an Athlon XP running at 10.5x200 for 2.1GHz...
From Iarsn>s 'TaskInfo 2001"; (Best viewed with fixed font.)
[Process Pane]
|Process| |% CPU| |LT % CPU| |Time| |Th||Pri
+ Idle 0.05% 0:47 1 Idle
+ TASKMON.EXE 1 Norm
+ STIMON.EXE 5 Norm
+ PSTORES.EXE 4 Norm
+ SYSTRAY.EXE 1 Norm
+ MSTASK.EXE 2 Norm
+ DDHELP.EXE 5 Real
+ VxD NTKERN 6 Norm
+ VxD VDHCP 1 Norm
+ WINOA386.MOD 1 Norm
+ MPREXE.EXE 0:01 1 Norm
+ VM: SETI_CLI 0:02 1 Norm
+ STMGR.EXE 0.05% 0.02% 0:02 4 Norm
+ TASKINFO.EXE 0.95% 0.54% 0:03 1 High
+ MBM5.EXE 0.01% 0:12 1 Norm
+ WMPLAYER.EXE 19.95% 19.63% 0:12 15 Norm ***
+ DISPLAY.DLL 0:19 1 Norm
+ KERNEL32.DLL 0.05% 0:26 7 High
+ RAMBOOSTER.EXE 0.03% 0:27 1 Norm
+ SETIQUEUE.EXE 0:32 3 Norm
+ MSGSRV32.EXE 0.02% 1:13 1 Norm
+ EXPLORER.EXE 0.20% 0.26% 4:39 7 Norm
+ SETI_CLI.EXE 78.80% 79.40% 2:07:06:02 1 Norm ***
SETI has 78.8% of the CPU and WMplayer is 'hogging' 20% to play
the movie. :-)
Ciao...
[UK]_Nick...
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Carsten Mueller
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Seti Hogging Resources |
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Nick M V Salmon wrote:
[quote]"D." <Dereka_k@NotSoHotmail.com> wrote
Last month it demanded 35.4% CPU power and has slowly creeped up
and as of this morning demands 36.1% I realize overall this is a
small change but anyone have idea why seti is slowly taking over the
CPU?
Heh, that>s funny - something is decidedly wrong - when you>re not
doing anything else, SETI should take _all_ the system>s resources.
ie. 99.x%..!
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No, it>s not funny, since the two of you are talking about separate issues.
Nick>s right: SETI uses 100%, ok "99%". D. is talking about the "CPU
dedication" indicated by SETI Spy. This number shows how much CPU time you
dedicate to SETI, compared with the maximum possible time.
Example:
If you run your computer 6 hours per day, and it does nothing but crunch
WUs, then the result is a CPU dedication of 6/24=25%. If you you use your
computer for other things things during these 6 hours and SETI only "gets"
an average 80% of your CPU>s potential, then your CPU dedication is
25%*80%=20%. SETI keeps track of the average CPU usage based on the date you
signed up to the project. I>ve been a SETI member for 2.322 years (20341
hours) now and I>ve recorded a total CPU time of only 7839 hours. Hence my
CPU dedication is 38.5%.
In D.'s case that means:
You used to dedicate 35% of your CPU time to SETI, which is 8h24m per day.
Lately you>re dedicating more time to the project, therefore your average
CPU dedication is rising.
Simple.
HTH,
Carsten |
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netcat
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: Seti Hogging Resources |
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"D." wrote:
[quote]
SETI has always used roughly 35% of my computers resources, on an anthlon
2400 XP Pro w/ seti 3.08 and seti spy 3.3.3. Over the last month I have
watched seti slowly creep up devoring more CPU usage.
Last month it demanded 35.4% CPU power and has slowly creeped up and as of
this morning demands 36.1% I realize overall this is a small change but
anyone have idea why seti is slowly taking over the CPU?
[/quote]
on a normally idle computer, the S@h client should take over 90% of cpu.
that is, it should utilize all of it that is currently available. so,
the question is not why it is using more cpu now, but what is using/has
been using the rest of it?
XP>s own task manager should be more than adequate for finding out.
rgds,
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Roger Halstead
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Seti Hogging Resources |
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:04:41 GMT, "D." <Dereka_k@NotSoHotmail.com>
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[quote]Carsten,
Thank you, that makes alot of sense and would easily explain the rising
percentasge of CPU dedication occuring.
I appreciate your taking the time to explain it, although I>ve been with
SETI awhile I still don>t claim to understand much of it. Thanks again.
D.
No, it>s not funny, since the two of you are talking about separate
issues.
Nick>s right: SETI uses 100%, ok "99%". D. is talking about the "CPU
dedication" indicated by SETI Spy. This number shows how much CPU time you
dedicate to SETI, compared with the maximum possible time.
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I>d get rid of that in a hurry.
When there is no competition for resources I want seti using all it
needs. It automatically throttles back to allow anything else to run
if it needs resources.
[quote]
Example:
If you run your computer 6 hours per day, and it does nothing but crunch
WUs, then the result is a CPU dedication of 6/24=25%. If you you use your
computer for other things things during these 6 hours and SETI only "gets"
an average 80% of your CPU>s potential, then your CPU dedication is
25%*80%=20%. SETI keeps track of the average CPU usage based on the date
you
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I can>t imagine ever wanting to set it up like this.
My dedication is not set. So it uses all the available cycles it
needs which means the computers are almost always running 98 to 100%
CPU utilization.
Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World>s oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2) |
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newsreader
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: Seti Hogging Resources |
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"Roger Halstead" <newsgroups@rogerhalstead.com> wrote in message
news:5u43mvk8niuj2smq82qd78jnvfk2qcg7l4@4ax.com...
[quote]My dedication is not set. So it uses all the available cycles it
needs which means the computers are almost always running 98 to 100%
CPU utilization.
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Except when it>s off and gets 0%. Hypothetically, if your system always
runs at 98 to 100% processor utilization _when it>s running S@h_ but is
turned off 8 hours a day, that system>s "dedication" will be only approach
65 to 66.7% =>
There still seems to be some confusion in this thread -- it>s mixing two
completely different measures of system utilization.
The first is the measure of how much processor time is being used by S@h at
any given instant. This will will vary depending on how powerful the system
is and how much processor time is being used by the software it>s competing
with. If a system is under heavy use for other software, this numnber can
be quite low. OTOH, if that same system is idle, this measure should
typically approach 100%. (But keep in mind, if S2h isn>t running at all
it>s 0% and, while it>s transferring data, it isn>t processing WUs.)
The second is the measure of "CPU dedication" which is displayed on the SETI
Spy User Stats screen. (If you don>t run SETI Spy, you>ve probably never
seen this particular stat -- I don>t know of any other SETI add-on that
calculates it.) "Dedication" looks at the total time a S@h account has been
registered and how many hours it has actually spent crunching WUs. A system
that has run S@h exclusively and continuously from the moment it was
registered will show a "dedication" of near 100% while one that has run S@h
only part-time or along with other software will show proportionately less
"dedication." (An account with more than one system contributing WUs can
show a dedication in excess of 100% approaching 100n% where n is the number
of systems or CPUs.) |
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Gary Heston
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| Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Seti Hogging Resources |
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In article <q1k8b.180$Aq2.12@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
newsreader <newsreader@wyvernhall.com> wrote:
[quote]"Roger Halstead" <newsgroups@rogerhalstead.com> wrote in message
news:5u43mvk8niuj2smq82qd78jnvfk2qcg7l4@4ax.com...
My dedication is not set. So it uses all the available cycles it
needs which means the computers are almost always running 98 to 100%
CPU utilization.
Except when it>s off and gets 0%. Hypothetically, if your system always
runs at 98 to 100% processor utilization _when it>s running S@h_ but is
turned off 8 hours a day, that system>s "dedication" will be only approach
65 to 66.7% =
[ ... ][/quote]
Computers can be turned off? Interesting concept... However, the local
power company would be annoyed with me over the loss of revenue.
:-)
Gary
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Roger Halstead
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| Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Seti Hogging Resources |
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:40:38 GMT, "newsreader"
<newsreader@wyvernhall.com> wrote:
[quote]
"Roger Halstead" <newsgroups@rogerhalstead.com> wrote in message
news:5u43mvk8niuj2smq82qd78jnvfk2qcg7l4@4ax.com...
My dedication is not set. So it uses all the available cycles it
needs which means the computers are almost always running 98 to 100%
CPU utilization.
Except when it>s off and gets 0%. Hypothetically, if your system always
runs at 98 to 100% processor utilization _when it>s running S@h_ but is
turned off 8 hours a day, that system>s "dedication" will be only approach
65 to 66.7% =
[/quote]
24 X 7. It>s been down maybe a couple of hours since last spring.
Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World>s oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2) |
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