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from CO2 is the most dangerous thing , to exposing their Communist agenda
of anti Capitalism of banning anything that makes the world economy grow and
improves the quality of life for the world>s people.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2061358/'CO2-scrubberandrsquo-could-help-slow-global-warming.html
A new machine designed to "suck" carbon dioxide from the air could help in
the fight to save the world from climate change, according to physicists.

A group of scientists are devising a 'CO2 scrubber' which they claim will
capture one tonne of CO2 from the air every day, about the same per
passenger as a flight from London to New York, reducing the warming effect
of greenhouse gases produced each year.

Although the idea has been mooted as a possible weapon in the battle against
climate change, it falls far short of a quick fix solution.

The 'scrubber' devices - small enough to fit inside a shipping container -
would need to be produced in their millions to soak up human carbon
emissions, and the CO2 trapped would still need to be disposed of.

The prototype will cost about £100,000 and take about two years to construct
at a laboratory in Tucson, Arizona.

Environmentalists may warn that so-called technological solutions to global
warming undermine attempts to promote greener lifestyles and industries.

Physicist Klaus Lackner, of New York>s Columbia University, who led the U.S.
team behind the invention, said the CO2 scrubber offered more hope than
current efforts to cut carbon emissions by reducing fossil fuel use.

"I>d rather have a technology that allows us to use fossil fuels without
destroying the planet, because people are going to use them anyway" he said.

Professor Lackner said carbon dioxide could be removed from the atmosphere
by absorbing it in various chemical filters and a newly discovered property
of absorbent plastic sheets - which are routinely used to purify water -
would be used to used to clean those filters of CO2 so they can then be
reused to carry on the job.

The captured carbon dioxide could then be pumped into greenhouses to boost
plant growth.

Climate experts have reported that CO2 levels in the atmosphere are now 40%
higher than before the industrial revolution and "scrubbing" the carbon from
the air is seen as one of the greatest challenges in climate science. Sir
Richard Branson has promised £12.6m to anyone who succeeds.

ENVIRONMENTALISTS OPPOSE NEW CO2 SCRUBBER IDEA
ncpa.org ^ | July 23, 2008

Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:58:33 AM by InvisibleChurch

Scientists at Columbia University are developing a carbon dioxide (CO2)
scrubber device that removes one ton of CO2 from the air every day, says the
Heartland Institute.

While some see the scrubber as an efficient and economical way to reduce
atmospheric carbon dioxide, many environmentalists oppose the technology
because it allows people to use fossil fuels and emit carbon in the first
place.

According to Columbia University physicist Klaus Lackner, who is leading the
research team:

Producing a large number of CO2 scrubbers can keep to a minimum any rise in
atmospheric CO2 without the economically painful elimination of inexpensive
energy sources. This technology would allow people to use fossil fuels,
which they will be using anyway, without destroying the planet.
Environmental activist groups such as Greenpeace have consistently opposed
similar technologies, such as carbon capture and sequestration, because they
do not address what they see as the root of the problem, says the Heartland
Institute.

"This is just one more piece of evidence that environmentalists aren>t
concerned about solving a problem," said Sterling Burnett, a senior fellow
with the National Center for Policy Analysis. "Every problem, as they see
it, is one way to restrict people>s lifestyles, and if you come up with a
technological fix that can solve a problem but doesn>t require sacrifice and
lets us go about our business the way we were before, they>re not happy
about it, even if it solves the problem."

Source: Krystle Russin, "Environmentalists Oppose New CO2 Scrubber Idea,"
Heartland Institute, August 1, 2008.

For text:

Bhanwara · Guest

[quote]Environmental activist groups such as Greenpeace have consistently opposed
similar technologies, such as carbon capture and sequestration, because they
do not address what they see as the root of the problem, says the Heartland
Institute.
[/quote]
There is only so much money in the GW pie, the scientists hoping to
take the money by some hokey scheme will have to fight Greenpeace et
al for the money!

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[quote]
Environmental activist groups such as Greenpeace have consistently
opposed
similar technologies, such as carbon capture and sequestration, because
they
do not address what they see as the root of the problem, says the
Heartland
Institute.

There is only so much money in the GW pie, the scientists hoping to
take the money by some hokey scheme will have to fight Greenpeace et
al for the money!
[/quote]
Heartland Institute = bought and paid for denialist lie mill

Believe everything you read?

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[/quote]
Could you rephrase that in English?
[quote]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2061358/'CO2-scrubberandrsquo-could-help-slow-global-warming.html
A new machine designed to "suck" carbon dioxide from the air could help in
the fight to save the world from climate change, according to physicists.
[/quote]
Excellent.

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improves the quality of life for the world>s people.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2061358/'CO2-scrubberandrsquo-could-help-slow-global-warming.html
A new machine designed to "suck" carbon dioxide from the air could help in the
fight to save the world from climate change, according to physicists.

A group of scientists are devising a 'CO2 scrubber' which they claim will
capture one tonne of CO2 from the air every day, about the same per passenger
as a flight from London to New York, reducing the warming effect of greenhouse
gases produced each year.

Although the idea has been mooted as a possible weapon in the battle against
climate change, it falls far short of a quick fix solution.

The 'scrubber' devices - small enough to fit inside a shipping container -
would need to be produced in their millions to soak up human carbon emissions,
and the CO2 trapped would still need to be disposed of.

The prototype will cost about £100,000 and take about two years to construct
at a laboratory in Tucson, Arizona.

Environmentalists may warn that so-called technological solutions to global
warming undermine attempts to promote greener lifestyles and industries.

Physicist Klaus Lackner, of New York>s Columbia University, who led the U.S.
team behind the invention, said the CO2 scrubber offered more hope than
current efforts to cut carbon emissions by reducing fossil fuel use.

"I>d rather have a technology that allows us to use fossil fuels without
destroying the planet, because people are going to use them anyway" he said.

Professor Lackner said carbon dioxide could be removed from the atmosphere by
absorbing it in various chemical filters and a newly discovered property of
absorbent plastic sheets - which are routinely used to purify water - would be
used to used to clean those filters of CO2 so they can then be reused to carry
on the job.

The captured carbon dioxide could then be pumped into greenhouses to boost
plant growth.

Climate experts have reported that CO2 levels in the atmosphere are now 40%
higher than before the industrial revolution and "scrubbing" the carbon from
the air is seen as one of the greatest challenges in climate science. Sir
Richard Branson has promised £12.6m to anyone who succeeds.

ENVIRONMENTALISTS OPPOSE NEW CO2 SCRUBBER IDEA
ncpa.org ^ | July 23, 2008

Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:58:33 AM by InvisibleChurch

Scientists at Columbia University are developing a carbon dioxide (CO2)
scrubber device that removes one ton of CO2 from the air every day, says the
Heartland Institute.

While some see the scrubber as an efficient and economical way to reduce
atmospheric carbon dioxide, many environmentalists oppose the technology
because it allows people to use fossil fuels and emit carbon in the first
place.

According to Columbia University physicist Klaus Lackner, who is leading the
research team:

Producing a large number of CO2 scrubbers can keep to a minimum any rise in
atmospheric CO2 without the economically painful elimination of inexpensive
energy sources. This technology would allow people to use fossil fuels, which
they will be using anyway, without destroying the planet. Environmental
activist groups such as Greenpeace have consistently opposed similar
technologies, such as carbon capture and sequestration, because they do not
address what they see as the root of the problem, says the Heartland
Institute.

"This is just one more piece of evidence that environmentalists aren>t
concerned about solving a problem," said Sterling Burnett, a senior fellow
with the National Center for Policy Analysis. "Every problem, as they see it,
is one way to restrict people>s lifestyles, and if you come up with a
technological fix that can solve a problem but doesn>t require sacrifice and
lets us go about our business the way we were before, they>re not happy about
it, even if it solves the problem."

Source: Krystle Russin, "Environmentalists Oppose New CO2 Scrubber Idea,"
Heartland Institute, August 1, 2008.

[/quote]
Lots of claims about all the horrible things those enviromentalist do, without a
gram of evidence. Typical right wing propaganda.

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[quote]from CO2 is the most dangerous thing , to exposing their Communist agenda
of anti Capitalism of banning anything that makes the world economy grow
and
improves the quality of life for the world>s people.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2061358/'CO2-scrubberandrsquo-could-help-slow-global-warming.html
A new machine designed to "suck" carbon dioxide from the air could help in
the fight to save the world from climate change, according to physicists.

A group of scientists are devising a 'CO2 scrubber' which they claim will
capture one tonne of CO2 from the air every day, about the same per
passenger as a flight from London to New York, reducing the warming effect
of greenhouse gases produced each year.

Although the idea has been mooted as a possible weapon in the battle
against
climate change, it falls far short of a quick fix solution.

The 'scrubber' devices - small enough to fit inside a shipping container -
would need to be produced in their millions to soak up human carbon
emissions, and the CO2 trapped would still need to be disposed of.

The prototype will cost about £100,000 and take about two years to
construct
at a laboratory in Tucson, Arizona.

Environmentalists may warn that so-called technological solutions to
global
warming undermine attempts to promote greener lifestyles and industries.

Physicist Klaus Lackner, of New York>s Columbia University, who led the
U.S.
team behind the invention, said the CO2 scrubber offered more hope than
current efforts to cut carbon emissions by reducing fossil fuel use.

"I>d rather have a technology that allows us to use fossil fuels without
destroying the planet, because people are going to use them anyway" he
said.

Professor Lackner said carbon dioxide could be removed from the atmosphere
by absorbing it in various chemical filters and a newly discovered
property
of absorbent plastic sheets - which are routinely used to purify water -
would be used to used to clean those filters of CO2 so they can then be
reused to carry on the job.

The captured carbon dioxide could then be pumped into greenhouses to boost
plant growth.

Climate experts have reported that CO2 levels in the atmosphere are now
40%
higher than before the industrial revolution and "scrubbing" the carbon
from
the air is seen as one of the greatest challenges in climate science. Sir
Richard Branson has promised £12.6m to anyone who succeeds.

ENVIRONMENTALISTS OPPOSE NEW CO2 SCRUBBER IDEA
ncpa.org ^ | July 23, 2008

Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:58:33 AM by InvisibleChurch

Scientists at Columbia University are developing a carbon dioxide (CO2)
scrubber device that removes one ton of CO2 from the air every day, says
the
Heartland Institute.

While some see the scrubber as an efficient and economical way to reduce
atmospheric carbon dioxide, many environmentalists oppose the technology
because it allows people to use fossil fuels and emit carbon in the first
place.

According to Columbia University physicist Klaus Lackner, who is leading
the
research team:

Producing a large number of CO2 scrubbers can keep to a minimum any rise
in
atmospheric CO2 without the economically painful elimination of
inexpensive
energy sources. This technology would allow people to use fossil fuels,
which they will be using anyway, without destroying the planet.
Environmental activist groups such as Greenpeace have consistently opposed
similar technologies, such as carbon capture and sequestration, because
they
do not address what they see as the root of the problem, says the
Heartland
Institute.

"This is just one more piece of evidence that environmentalists aren>t
concerned about solving a problem," said Sterling Burnett, a senior fellow
with the National Center for Policy Analysis. "Every problem, as they see
it, is one way to restrict people>s lifestyles, and if you come up with a
technological fix that can solve a problem but doesn>t require sacrifice
and
lets us go about our business the way we were before, they>re not happy
about it, even if it solves the problem."

Source: Krystle Russin, "Environmentalists Oppose New CO2 Scrubber Idea,"
Heartland Institute, August 1, 2008.

For text:

[/quote]
# What is the chimney problem?
A chimney discharges smoke, steam, gas, etc, into the atmosphere,
instead of recycling it.
We don>t allow raw sewage discharge into the ocean, so why let chimneys
shit into the atmosphere?
The scrubber idea sounds sensible, and should be tried.
If all chimney waste products can be recycled, then "clean coal" has
arrived, and - no problem. But act fast, as the climate change "window of
opportunity" is closing.

Ralph · Guest

Bhanwara <bhanwaram@netscape.net> wrote:

[quote]Environmental activist groups such as Greenpeace have consistently opposed
similar technologies, such as carbon capture and sequestration, because they
do not address what they see as the root of the problem, says the Heartland
Institute.

There is only so much money in the GW pie,
[/quote]
They>re talking about increasing the pie to $100 billion per year.

[quote]the scientists hoping to
take the money by some hokey scheme will have to fight Greenpeace et
al for the money![/quote]

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from CO2 is the most dangerous thing , to exposing their Communist
agenda of anti Capitalism of banning anything that makes the world
economy grow and improves the quality of life for the world>s people.

Could you rephrase that in English?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2061358/'CO2-scrubberandrsquo-could-help-slow-global-warming.html
A new machine designed to "suck" carbon dioxide from the air could
help in the fight to save the world from climate change, according to
physicists.

Excellent.
[/quote]
Yes, but what about your socialist agenda??
You>ll have to find a new scare story now.
What a shame, eh???!!!

--

Warmest Regards

Bonzo

The Fourth Report of the IPCC might just as well decree the
suppression of all climatology textbooks, and replace them in our
schools with press communiqués. ... Day after day, the same mantra -
that 'the Earth is warming up' - is churned out in all its forms. As
'the
ice melts' and 'sea level rises' the Apocalypse looms ever nearer!
Without realizing it, or perhaps without wishing to, the average
citizen in bamboozled, lobotomized, and lulled into mindless acceptance.
.... Non-believers in the greenhouse scenario are in the
position of those long ago who doubted the existence of God ...
Marcel Leroux

It should be abundantly clear by now that the AGW hypothesis is
contradicted by the facts/measurements/observations and should
therefore be abandoned and be substituted by a hypothesis which
better matches the facts.
- Hans Labohm

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of anti Capitalism of banning anything that makes the world economy
grow
and
improves the quality of life for the world>s people.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2061358/'CO2-scrubberandrsquo-could-help-slow-global-warming.html
A new machine designed to "suck" carbon dioxide from the air could
help in
the fight to save the world from climate change, according to
physicists.

A group of scientists are devising a 'CO2 scrubber' which they claim
will
capture one tonne of CO2 from the air every day, about the same per
passenger as a flight from London to New York, reducing the warming
effect
of greenhouse gases produced each year.

Although the idea has been mooted as a possible weapon in the battle
against
climate change, it falls far short of a quick fix solution.

The 'scrubber' devices - small enough to fit inside a shipping
container -
would need to be produced in their millions to soak up human carbon
emissions, and the CO2 trapped would still need to be disposed of.

The prototype will cost about £100,000 and take about two years to
construct
at a laboratory in Tucson, Arizona.

Environmentalists may warn that so-called technological solutions to
global
warming undermine attempts to promote greener lifestyles and
industries.

Physicist Klaus Lackner, of New York>s Columbia University, who led
the
U.S.
team behind the invention, said the CO2 scrubber offered more hope
than
current efforts to cut carbon emissions by reducing fossil fuel use.

"I>d rather have a technology that allows us to use fossil fuels
without
destroying the planet, because people are going to use them anyway"
he
said.

Professor Lackner said carbon dioxide could be removed from the
atmosphere
by absorbing it in various chemical filters and a newly discovered
property
of absorbent plastic sheets - which are routinely used to purify
water -
would be used to used to clean those filters of CO2 so they can then
be
reused to carry on the job.

The captured carbon dioxide could then be pumped into greenhouses to
boost
plant growth.

Climate experts have reported that CO2 levels in the atmosphere are
now
40%
higher than before the industrial revolution and "scrubbing" the
carbon
from
the air is seen as one of the greatest challenges in climate science.
Sir
Richard Branson has promised £12.6m to anyone who succeeds.

ENVIRONMENTALISTS OPPOSE NEW CO2 SCRUBBER IDEA
ncpa.org ^ | July 23, 2008

Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:58:33 AM by InvisibleChurch

Scientists at Columbia University are developing a carbon dioxide
(CO2)
scrubber device that removes one ton of CO2 from the air every day,
says
the
Heartland Institute.

While some see the scrubber as an efficient and economical way to
reduce
atmospheric carbon dioxide, many environmentalists oppose the
technology
because it allows people to use fossil fuels and emit carbon in the
first
place.

According to Columbia University physicist Klaus Lackner, who is
leading
the
research team:

Producing a large number of CO2 scrubbers can keep to a minimum any
rise
in
atmospheric CO2 without the economically painful elimination of
inexpensive
energy sources. This technology would allow people to use fossil
fuels,
which they will be using anyway, without destroying the planet.
Environmental activist groups such as Greenpeace have consistently
opposed
similar technologies, such as carbon capture and sequestration,
because
they
do not address what they see as the root of the problem, says the
Heartland
Institute.

"This is just one more piece of evidence that environmentalists
aren>t
concerned about solving a problem," said Sterling Burnett, a senior
fellow
with the National Center for Policy Analysis. "Every problem, as they
see
it, is one way to restrict people>s lifestyles, and if you come up
with a
technological fix that can solve a problem but doesn>t require
sacrifice
and
lets us go about our business the way we were before, they>re not
happy
about it, even if it solves the problem."

Source: Krystle Russin, "Environmentalists Oppose New CO2 Scrubber
Idea,"
Heartland Institute, August 1, 2008.

For text:

. But act fast, as the climate change "window of
opportunity" is closing.
[/quote]
GARBAGE!!
The climate change is all in your fevered pinhead!

--

Warmest Regards

Bonzo

"The notion of a static, unchanging climate is foreign to the history of
the earth or any other planet with a fluid envelope. The fact that the
developed world went into hysterics over changes in global mean
temperature of a few tenths of a degree will astound future
generations." Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member
of the National Academy of Sciences

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economy grow and improves the quality of life for the world>s people.

Could you rephrase that in English?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2061358/'CO2-scrubberandrsquo-could-help-slow-global-warming.html
A new machine designed to "suck" carbon dioxide from the air could help
in the fight to save the world from climate change, according to
physicists.

Excellent.

Yes, but what about your socialist agenda??
[/quote]
What socialist agenda, lying k00k? lol

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improves the quality of life for the world>s people.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2061358/'CO2-scrubberandrsquo-could-help-slow-global-warming.html
A new machine designed to "suck" carbon dioxide from the air could help
in
the fight to save the world from climate change, according to
physicists.

A group of scientists are devising a 'CO2 scrubber' which they claim
will
capture one tonne of CO2 from the air every day, about the same per
passenger as a flight from London to New York, reducing the warming
effect
of greenhouse gases produced each year.

Although the idea has been mooted as a possible weapon in the battle
against
climate change, it falls far short of a quick fix solution.

The 'scrubber' devices - small enough to fit inside a shipping
container -
would need to be produced in their millions to soak up human carbon
emissions, and the CO2 trapped would still need to be disposed of.

The prototype will cost about £100,000 and take about two years to
construct
at a laboratory in Tucson, Arizona.

Environmentalists may warn that so-called technological solutions to
global
warming undermine attempts to promote greener lifestyles and industries.

Physicist Klaus Lackner, of New York>s Columbia University, who led the
U.S.
team behind the invention, said the CO2 scrubber offered more hope than
current efforts to cut carbon emissions by reducing fossil fuel use.

"I>d rather have a technology that allows us to use fossil fuels without
destroying the planet, because people are going to use them anyway" he
said.

Professor Lackner said carbon dioxide could be removed from the
atmosphere
by absorbing it in various chemical filters and a newly discovered
property
of absorbent plastic sheets - which are routinely used to purify water -
would be used to used to clean those filters of CO2 so they can then be
reused to carry on the job.

The captured carbon dioxide could then be pumped into greenhouses to
boost
plant growth.

Climate experts have reported that CO2 levels in the atmosphere are now
40%
higher than before the industrial revolution and "scrubbing" the carbon
from
the air is seen as one of the greatest challenges in climate science.
Sir
Richard Branson has promised £12.6m to anyone who succeeds.

ENVIRONMENTALISTS OPPOSE NEW CO2 SCRUBBER IDEA
ncpa.org ^ | July 23, 2008

Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:58:33 AM by InvisibleChurch

Scientists at Columbia University are developing a carbon dioxide (CO2)
scrubber device that removes one ton of CO2 from the air every day, says
the
Heartland Institute.

While some see the scrubber as an efficient and economical way to reduce
atmospheric carbon dioxide, many environmentalists oppose the technology
because it allows people to use fossil fuels and emit carbon in the
first
place.

According to Columbia University physicist Klaus Lackner, who is leading
the
research team:

Producing a large number of CO2 scrubbers can keep to a minimum any rise
in
atmospheric CO2 without the economically painful elimination of
inexpensive
energy sources. This technology would allow people to use fossil fuels,
which they will be using anyway, without destroying the planet.
Environmental activist groups such as Greenpeace have consistently
opposed
similar technologies, such as carbon capture and sequestration, because
they
do not address what they see as the root of the problem, says the
Heartland
Institute.

"This is just one more piece of evidence that environmentalists aren>t
concerned about solving a problem," said Sterling Burnett, a senior
fellow
with the National Center for Policy Analysis. "Every problem, as they
see
it, is one way to restrict people>s lifestyles, and if you come up with
a
technological fix that can solve a problem but doesn>t require sacrifice
and
lets us go about our business the way we were before, they>re not happy
about it, even if it solves the problem."

Source: Krystle Russin, "Environmentalists Oppose New CO2 Scrubber
Idea,"
Heartland Institute, August 1, 2008.

For text:

. But act fast, as the climate change "window of
opportunity" is closing.

GARBAGE!!
The climate change is all in your fevered pinhead!
[/quote]
The usual lying k00kspew. lol

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from CO2 is the most dangerous thing , to exposing their Communist
agenda
of anti Capitalism of banning anything that makes the world economy
grow
and
improves the quality of life for the world>s people.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2061358/'CO2-scrubberandrsquo-could-help-slow-global-warming.html
A new machine designed to "suck" carbon dioxide from the air could
help
in
the fight to save the world from climate change, according to
physicists.

A group of scientists are devising a 'CO2 scrubber' which they claim
will
capture one tonne of CO2 from the air every day, about the same per
passenger as a flight from London to New York, reducing the warming
effect
of greenhouse gases produced each year.

Although the idea has been mooted as a possible weapon in the battle
against
climate change, it falls far short of a quick fix solution.

The 'scrubber' devices - small enough to fit inside a shipping
container -
would need to be produced in their millions to soak up human carbon
emissions, and the CO2 trapped would still need to be disposed of.

The prototype will cost about £100,000 and take about two years to
construct
at a laboratory in Tucson, Arizona.

Environmentalists may warn that so-called technological solutions to
global
warming undermine attempts to promote greener lifestyles and
industries.

Physicist Klaus Lackner, of New York>s Columbia University, who led
the
U.S.
team behind the invention, said the CO2 scrubber offered more hope
than
current efforts to cut carbon emissions by reducing fossil fuel use.

"I>d rather have a technology that allows us to use fossil fuels
without
destroying the planet, because people are going to use them anyway" he
said.

Professor Lackner said carbon dioxide could be removed from the
atmosphere
by absorbing it in various chemical filters and a newly discovered
property
of absorbent plastic sheets - which are routinely used to purify
water -
would be used to used to clean those filters of CO2 so they can then
be
reused to carry on the job.

The captured carbon dioxide could then be pumped into greenhouses to
boost
plant growth.

Climate experts have reported that CO2 levels in the atmosphere are
now
40%
higher than before the industrial revolution and "scrubbing" the
carbon
from
the air is seen as one of the greatest challenges in climate science.
Sir
Richard Branson has promised £12.6m to anyone who succeeds.

ENVIRONMENTALISTS OPPOSE NEW CO2 SCRUBBER IDEA
ncpa.org ^ | July 23, 2008

Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:58:33 AM by InvisibleChurch

Scientists at Columbia University are developing a carbon dioxide
(CO2)
scrubber device that removes one ton of CO2 from the air every day,
says
the
Heartland Institute.

While some see the scrubber as an efficient and economical way to
reduce
atmospheric carbon dioxide, many environmentalists oppose the
technology
because it allows people to use fossil fuels and emit carbon in the
first
place.

According to Columbia University physicist Klaus Lackner, who is
leading
the
research team:

Producing a large number of CO2 scrubbers can keep to a minimum any
rise
in
atmospheric CO2 without the economically painful elimination of
inexpensive
energy sources. This technology would allow people to use fossil
fuels,
which they will be using anyway, without destroying the planet.
Environmental activist groups such as Greenpeace have consistently
opposed
similar technologies, such as carbon capture and sequestration,
because
they
do not address what they see as the root of the problem, says the
Heartland
Institute.

"This is just one more piece of evidence that environmentalists aren>t
concerned about solving a problem," said Sterling Burnett, a senior
fellow
with the National Center for Policy Analysis. "Every problem, as they
see
it, is one way to restrict people>s lifestyles, and if you come up
with
a
technological fix that can solve a problem but doesn>t require
sacrifice
and
lets us go about our business the way we were before, they>re not
happy
about it, even if it solves the problem."

Source: Krystle Russin, "Environmentalists Oppose New CO2 Scrubber
Idea,"
Heartland Institute, August 1, 2008.

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. But act fast, as the climate change "window of
opportunity" is closing.

GARBAGE!!
The climate change is all in your fevered pinhead!

The usual lying k00kspew. lol

# "Garbage" is an apt word, under the circumstances.[/quote]
I>m at opposite end of the political spectrum to Climate Change
Skeptics - I>m a Prophet of Doom, and predict that the Mad Ape, Homo
(self-styled) Sapiens, the Darling of the Gods, will be decimated or extinct
by 2050 AD,
Odd about the Skeptics. These folk probably swallow all the guff dealt
out by theologians, yet when majority of world scientists say global warming
is happening, and produce evidence to support it - the Skeptics pop out of
the woodwork (what>s left of it), and go into Denial.
True, climate change tends to be insidious, slow, and underhand - but it
is creeping up on us, and we ignore warning signs at our peril. It is
likely too late already to reverse the trend, to extinction.
The major polluting industries want to be feather-bedded when it comes to
action, and are quite happy to pass on any cost to the average mug in the
street - thus helping precipitate a Depression.
Almost any move we 6.5 billion human locusts now make impacts adversely
on our habitat, and once it is ruined, then we are ruined also.
So, Climate Skeptics, dream on, but don>t blame me if you wake up and
find yourselves dead.
Tomorrow is National Tree Day (whatever that means), so I>ve composed a
little ditty for the occasion:
=============
Botanicax
=============
I think that I shall never see,
A thing more stupid than a Tree.
Let>s take an axe, and make it fall,
And, just for laughs, on you 'n all.
* * * *
Homo Sap chopped trees too often,
So Nature gave him a wood coffin.
================================

Landy · Guest

"Don H" <donlhumphries@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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[quote]"Feces bomb Throwing Democrap Protester" <Feces eating & throwing Democrap
@
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from CO2 is the most dangerous thing , to exposing their Communist
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For text:

# What is the chimney problem?
A chimney discharges smoke, steam, gas, etc, into the atmosphere,
instead of recycling it.
We don>t allow raw sewage discharge into the ocean,
[/quote]
Wanna bet? Most of Sydney>s sewage is untreated and is discharged 2 km
offshore.

[quote]so why let chimneys
shit into the atmosphere?
The scrubber idea sounds sensible, and should be tried.
If all chimney waste products can be recycled, then "clean coal" has
arrived, and - no problem.
[/quote]
No problem? So, you>ve scrubbed the CO2 - fine. What do do with it now
you>ve scrubbed it? BIG problem.
If you knew anything about geology, you>d know that geosequestration is
untenable, so what do you do with your captured CO2?

V for Vendicar · Guest

"Bhanwara" <bhanwaram@netscape.net> wrote
[quote]From that, I gather that I should have remembered ice has weight.
While the water it melts into, doesn>t.
[/quote]
Ahahahahahaaha....

And this MORON thinks he knows more science than the Scientists on the IPCC.

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNN

V for Vendicar · Guest

"Bhanwara" <bhanwaram@netscape.net> wrote
[quote]From that, I gather that I should have remembered ice has weight.
While the water it melts into, doesn>t.
[/quote]
Ahahahahahaaha....

And this MORON thinks he knows more science than the Scientists on the IPCC.

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNN


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