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Javier H.
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 Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: anyone else have a field solid in clover?? Re: a field e |
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On May 23, 12:47Â am, plutonium.archime...@gmail.com wrote:
[quote]Brand.Die...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 22, 6:10�pm, plutonium.archime...@gmail.com wrote:
What I like to know is how to make the field overcome in clover,
whether letting it
go to seed favors the clover, or am I best to mow it.
There are different types of clover; however generally speaking,
cutting about 6 inches above the ground favors clover at the
detriment of grass. Â With an annual clover it is best to stop mowing
once the seed pods start to form so your clover will reseed.
Small grains and even some vegetables can be grown in a
field of clover without ploughing. Â The grains, barley, wheat, etc.
will just grow through the cover of clover.
Dieter
Thanks for the advice. I never realized that a crop can grow right
through
a clover cover. That sounds like the most perfect form of agriculture
where
the clover stops erosion, stops ploughing and adds fertilizer to the
crop.
Yes, I would think that is the maximum agriculture. To gain a field in
clover
and then plant a crop. Never ploughing and never needing to fertilize.
About the only thing to do is to mow between the crop rows.
I hate to mow through my clover which is almost knee deep.
Dieter, a further question. Can you recommend a species of clover
which is
the most tough and long lasting of the clovers? Is it a white clover?
What is
the most durable clovers?- Hide quoted text -
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The last year I experiment with bersem clover in my field and in my[/quote]
clay land find that if is the first time work best if you plow the
land in such way become aerate and inoculate the seed to get nitrogen
from the air that breath the plant. I expect you not have pressure of
grass of other weed that can compete with this seed and win. And you
must expect one rain period that can maintain wet the superficies of
the land for more of tree days .
(Excuse my English)
Javier H. Davila
G.G. N.L. Mexico |
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Father Haskell
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: Re: anyone else have a field solid in clover?? Re: a field e |
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On May 23, 1:47 am, plutonium.archime...@gmail.com wrote:
[quote]Brand.Die...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 22, 6:10�pm, plutonium.archime...@gmail.com wrote:
What I like to know is how to make the field overcome in clover,
whether letting it
go to seed favors the clover, or am I best to mow it.
There are different types of clover; however generally speaking,
cutting about 6 inches above the ground favors clover at the
detriment of grass. With an annual clover it is best to stop mowing
once the seed pods start to form so your clover will reseed.
Small grains and even some vegetables can be grown in a
field of clover without ploughing. The grains, barley, wheat, etc.
will just grow through the cover of clover.
Dieter
Thanks for the advice. I never realized that a crop can grow right
through
a clover cover. That sounds like the most perfect form of agriculture
where
the clover stops erosion, stops ploughing and adds fertilizer to the
crop.
Yes, I would think that is the maximum agriculture. To gain a field in
clover
and then plant a crop. Never ploughing and never needing to fertilize.
About the only thing to do is to mow between the crop rows.
I hate to mow through my clover which is almost knee deep.
Dieter, a further question. Can you recommend a species of clover
which is
the most tough and long lasting of the clovers? Is it a white clover?
What is
the most durable clovers?
[/quote]
Experimenting with activated teas. Whatever microbes
are present in healthy clumps of clover can be multiplied
astronomically by dumping a couple of generous handfuls
of soil into a bucket of chlorine-free water with a shot of
molasses or other sugar source. Aerate with an aquarium
stone for several days, then dilute and apply to the field to
be inoculated.
I figure teas for specific plants can be brewed just by
using samples of the appropriate humus as the base. |
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: anyone else have a field solid in clover?? Re: a field e |
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Javier H. wrote:
[quote]The last year I experiment with bersem clover in my field and in my
clay land find that if is the first time work best if you plow the
land in such way become aerate and inoculate the seed to get nitrogen
from the air that breath the plant. I expect you not have pressure of
grass of other weed that can compete with this seed and win. And you
must expect one rain period that can maintain wet the superficies of
the land for more of tree days .
(Excuse my English)
Javier H. Davila
G.G. N.L. Mexico
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Thanks for the information. It led me to arrowhead clover or Berseem
which led me to this website:
http://overton.tamu.edu/clover/cool/species.htm
According to them, white clover is better suited for the colder
climate here
in South Dakota and also white clover reseeds very high.
Tell me Javier, since I have never collected the seeds of clover. Does
clover have
one seed crop per year? When does the seed mature? How will I know the
seed
is mature? And when can I collect and gather the seed?
This clover seed collecting is a new experience for me.
Thanks in advance for any answers. |
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Javier H.
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:35 am Post subject: Re: anyone else have a field solid in clover?? Re: a field e |
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On May 26, 1:01 pm, plutonium.archime...@gmail.com wrote:
[quote]Javier H. wrote:
The last year I experiment with bersem clover in my field and in my
clay land find that if is the first time work best if you plow the
land in such way become aerate and inoculate the seed to get nitrogen
from the air that breath the plant. I expect you not have pressure of
grass of other weed that can compete with this seed and win. And you
must expect one rain period that can maintain wet the superficies of
the land for more of tree days .
(Excuse my English)
Javier H. Davila
G.G. N.L. Mexico
Thanks for the information. It led me to arrowhead clover or Berseem
which led me to this website:
http://overton.tamu.edu/clover/cool/species.htm
According to them, white clover is better suited for the colder
climate here
in South Dakota and also white clover reseeds very high.
Tell me Javier, since I have never collected the seeds of clover. Does
clover have
one seed crop per year? When does the seed mature? How will I know the
seed
is mature? And when can I collect and gather the seed?
This clover seed collecting is a new experience for me.
Thanks in advance for any answers.
[/quote]
I don’t know about the seeds, always buy it, you can expriment with
the cut of the clover, if you made it short you can kill them but if
you let them enough long then survive and the roots go deeper in the
land, improving the structure that is one excellent goal to get.
You can find lot of information in the publication -managing cover
crops profitably- made one search of this.
Javier H. Davila
(Excuse my English)
GG NL Mexico |
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Rudy Canoza
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Life per se does not have a positive value |
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Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, stupidest cracker in existence - lied and
presented no challenge:
[quote]On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 20:27:48 GMT, Leif Erikson <info@dHosted.com> wrote:
Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, stupidest cracker in existence - lied and presented no challenge:
You may truly be too stupid to understand
I understand it fully. You are posing a false choice.
The choice is not "decent lives for farm animals" vs
"no life".
In the case of farm animals who have decent lives, it is
that or no life.
[/quote]
NO, Goo. That is not the choice. There are *two* choices, you stupid
fucking shit-4-braincell cracker. First is the choice of existence or
not. IF, and only if, the animals exist, then there is a choice of
"decent lives" or not. The phony choice you try to present is bullshit,
Goo.
Of course, Goo, you don>t give a f ck about the quality of lives for
farm animals. All you care about is the products that can be obtained
from them. |
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veganagev
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Life per se does not have a positive value |
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of course dipshit we don>t give a f ck about the lack of quality and verve
in your life.
other than the pillow soaking and the long hours in the bathroom, squealing
the plumbing with the dog.
"Rudy Canoza" <pipes@thedismalscience.noot> wrote in message
news:n-qdnQp5pcBxhMLVnZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@earthlink.com...
[quote]Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, stupidest cracker in existence - lied and
presented no challenge:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 20:27:48 GMT, Leif Erikson <info@dHosted.com> wrote:
Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, stupidest cracker in existence - lied and
presented no challenge:
You may truly be too stupid to understand
I understand it fully. You are posing a false choice. The choice is not
"decent lives for farm animals" vs "no life".
In the case of farm animals who have decent lives, it is
that or no life.
NO, Goo. That is not the choice. There are *two* choices, you stupid
fucking shit-4-braincell cracker. First is the choice of existence or
not. IF, and only if, the animals exist, then there is a choice of
"decent lives" or not. The phony choice you try to present is bullshit,
Goo.
Of course, Goo, you don>t give a f ck about the quality of lives for farm
animals. All you care about is the products that can be obtained from
them.[/quote] |
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Ron Hamilton
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: Life per se does not have a positive value |
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veganagev wrote:
[quote]of course dipshit we don>t give a f ck about the lack of quality and verve
in your life.
[/quote]
Of course, you shit-4-braincell "vegan" fucknozzle, we don>t give a f ck
about any fucking thing you have to say. Stick a broken bottle up your
gaping HIV-oozing shitter, you goddamned limp-wristed "vegan" faggot.
[quote]other than the pillow soaking and the long hours in the bathroom, squealing
the plumbing with the dog.
"Rudy Canoza" <pipes@thedismalscience.noot> wrote in message
news:n-qdnQp5pcBxhMLVnZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@earthlink.com...
Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, stupidest cracker in existence - lied and
presented no challenge:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 20:27:48 GMT, Leif Erikson <info@dHosted.com> wrote:
Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, stupidest cracker in existence - lied and
presented no challenge:
You may truly be too stupid to understand
I understand it fully. You are posing a false choice. The choice is not
"decent lives for farm animals" vs "no life".
In the case of farm animals who have decent lives, it is
that or no life.
NO, Goo. That is not the choice. There are *two* choices, you stupid
fucking shit-4-braincell cracker. First is the choice of existence or
not. IF, and only if, the animals exist, then there is a choice of
"decent lives" or not. The phony choice you try to present is bullshit,
Goo.
Of course, Goo, you don>t give a f ck about the quality of lives for farm
animals. All you care about is the products that can be obtained from
them.
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veganagev
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: Life per se does not have a positive value |
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so you have a bottle fetish?
and a faggot interest?
figures since you>re that dumbass laura.
"Ron Hamilton" <banmilk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]veganagev wrote:
of course dipshit we don>t give a f ck about the lack of quality and
verve in your life.
Of course, you shit-4-braincell "vegan" fucknozzle, we don>t give a f ck
about any fucking thing you have to say. Stick a broken bottle up your
gaping HIV-oozing shitter, you goddamned limp-wristed "vegan" faggot.
other than the pillow soaking and the long hours in the bathroom,
squealing the plumbing with the dog.
"Rudy Canoza" <pipes@thedismalscience.noot> wrote in message
news:n-qdnQp5pcBxhMLVnZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@earthlink.com...
Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, stupidest cracker in existence - lied and
presented no challenge:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 20:27:48 GMT, Leif Erikson <info@dHosted.com
wrote:
Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, stupidest cracker in existence - lied
and presented no challenge:
You may truly be too stupid to understand
I understand it fully. You are posing a false choice. The choice is
not "decent lives for farm animals" vs "no life".
In the case of farm animals who have decent lives, it is
that or no life.
NO, Goo. That is not the choice. There are *two* choices, you stupid
fucking shit-4-braincell cracker. First is the choice of existence or
not. IF, and only if, the animals exist, then there is a choice of
"decent lives" or not. The phony choice you try to present is bullshit,
Goo.
Of course, Goo, you don>t give a f ck about the quality of lives for
farm animals. All you care about is the products that can be obtained
from them.
[/quote] |
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Ron Hamilton
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: Life per se does not have a positive value |
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veganagev wrote:
[quote]I like to stick foreign objects up my rectum.
[/quote]
That>s nice. Keep it to yourself, shitbag. |
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