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 Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Resurrecting out-of-print math books |
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tchow@lsa.umich.edu wrote:
[quote]In article <487EAFAD.C6665F2C@gmail.com>, herbzet <herbzet@cox.net> wrote:
How long does it take these days for a book to pass into the public domain?
Wikipedia says:
Under the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic
Works, the signatory states are required to provide copyright protection
for a minimum term of the life of the author plus fifty years, but they are
permitted to provide for a longer term of protection. Following the 1993
Directive on harmonising the term of copyright protection, member states of
the European Union implemented protection for a term of the author>s life
plus seventy years.
[...]
The Copyright Term Extension Act (CTEA) of 1998 --- alternatively known
as the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act, Sonny Bono Act, or
pejoratively as the Mickey Mouse Protection Act --- extended copyright
terms in the United States by 20 years. Before the Act (under the Copyright
Act of 1976), copyright would last for the life of the author plus 50
years, or 75 years for a work of corporate authorship; the Act extended
these terms to life of the author plus 70 years and for works of corporate
authorship to 120 years after creation or 95 years after publication,
whichever endpoint is earlier. The Act also affected copyright terms for
copyrighted works published prior to January 1, 1978, also increasing their
term of protection by 20 years, to a total of 95 years from publication.
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Yikes!
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Timothy Murphy
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:56 am Post subject: Re: Resurrecting out-of-print math books |
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tchow@lsa.umich.edu wrote:
[quote]Wikipedia says:
Under the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic
Works, the signatory states are required to provide copyright protection
for a minimum term of the life of the author plus fifty years, but they
are
permitted to provide for a longer term of protection. Following the 1993
Directive on harmonising the term of copyright protection, member states
of the European Union implemented protection for a term of the author>s
life plus seventy years.
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I never saw any explanation for this extension of copyright.
At first sight the effect seems to be that an author>s grandchildren
or even great-grandchildren will benefit from his work.
This ancestral right does not seem to be applied in any other area,
except perhaps royalty (as in kings and queens). |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: Resurrecting out-of-print math books |
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In article <Po%fk.26417$j7.470956@news.indigo.ie>,
Timothy Murphy <gayleard@eircom.net> wrote:
[quote]I never saw any explanation for this extension of copyright.
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Well, in the case of the U.S. at least, part of the reason is that
companies who had highly lucrative copyrights that were about to expire
lobbied heavily to have the copyright extended.
If you mean an "explanation" not in the sense of a causal explanation but
a reasoned argument that extended copyrights are a good thing, then some
such arguments have been proposed (although I don>t find them very
convincing myself). For example, some economists argue that works in
the public domain tend to be under-exploited or over-exploited while
works protected by copyright are exploited more efficiently in the
marketplace.
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Tim Chow tchow-at-alum-dot-mit-dot-edu
The range of our projectiles---even ... the artillery---however great, will
never exceed four of those miles of which as many thousand separate us from
the center of the earth. ---Galileo, Dialogues Concerning Two New Sciences |
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Herman Rubin
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:50 am Post subject: Re: Resurrecting out-of-print math books |
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In article <487fc00d$0$294$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
<tchow@lsa.umich.edu> wrote:
[quote]In article <g5o95v$5gi4@odds.stat.purdue.edu>,
Herman Rubin <hrubin@odds.stat.purdue.edu> wrote:
It is more difficult than you think.
By "it" here, I assume you mean an author regaining copyright from the
publisher. Do you have any specific anecdotes you can share, about
particular publishers both refusing to bring a book back into print
and refusing to release the rights to an author who asks for it?
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I did not have refusal in getting back the copyright of my
late wife>s book, but as it had gone from publisher to
publisher to publisher, we could not find the original
contract. The last publisher was getting out of this type
of book.
Having one publisher take over from another is not that
unusual. I suggest authors keep their original contracts
in a safe deposit box.
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This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views
are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
hrubin@stat.purdue.edu Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558 |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: Re: Resurrecting out-of-print math books |
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In article <489c636c$0$298$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>, I wrote,
regarding Klaus Schmid>s site outprintmath.blogspot.com:
[quote]Just for fun, I decided to compile a list of the "hottest" books on the
list as of this morning, ranked by the number of "highly" votes, with
30 votes as an arbitrary cutoff:
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I have some additional information about a few of these books.
[quote]69 Artin and Tate, Class field theory
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This one has now been brought back into print by the American Mathematical
Society, in their Chelsea series. You can (pre-)order it on their website.
[quote]82 Cassels and Frohlich, Algebraic number theory
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The AMS is looking into this one. They are definitely interested, but the
copyright situation is complicated, though, so no guarantees yet.
[quote]59 Welsh, Matroid theory
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Dover Press is now working with Welsh to bring this one back into print.
[quote]36 Lovasz and Plummer, Matching theory
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The AMS plans to bring this one back into print. The authors are working on
a brief addendum, to cover a few of the major results in the field since the
book was originally published.
[quote]31 Simpson, Subsystems of second-order arithmetic
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The Association for Symbolic Logic says they>ve been waiting for a while now
for Simpson to submit the final version of his manuscript. I haven>t been
successful in contacting Simpson to find out the status on his end.
I can claim some credit for working to get Cassels and Frohlich and Welsh
back into print; the other three have nothing to do with me. I encourage
those of you with a particular desire to see some other particular book
come back into print to contact Dover and/or the AMS about it. Arm yourself
with the information at outofprintmath.blogspot.com and any other info
you have about the book.
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Tim Chow tchow-at-alum-dot-mit-dot-edu
The range of our projectiles---even ... the artillery---however great, will
never exceed four of those miles of which as many thousand separate us from
the center of the earth. ---Galileo, Dialogues Concerning Two New Sciences |
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