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Guest · Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: Resonant WFC Theory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjUzsNj8NM&NR=1

Maybe this is in language you can understand.

Guest · Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Resonant WFC Theory

On Oct 9, 11:02 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
[quote]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjUzsNj8NM&NR=1

Maybe this is in language you can understand.
[/quote]
And an old favorite from the "scientists" that can>t read a circuit.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy.hydrogen/msg/b5ed1ee32b936cdd

gabydewilde · Guest

On Oct 10, 8:02 am, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
[quote]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjUzsNj8NM&NR=1

Maybe this is in language you can understand.
[/quote]
Browns gas replaces part of the air intake. Normally combustion ends
when there is no more oxygen available. Browns gas not just burns
faster it also contains moar oxygen ass-.

One could combine the gas with petrol to give an example you might be
able to understand. There is moar combustion so there is moar power,
among other trickery here the extra power comes from the lack of
exhaust gases. It>s very obvious? no?

It gets funky where the petroleum doesn>t need to be compressed
anymoar so the injection can take place much moar later in the cycle.
For it also burns faster so it can be injected much-much later then
you think. (Read "retarded")

Here the cylinder can be filled with lots and lots of uncompressed
browns gas, the piston may forcefully suck the gas out of the thermo/
electrolyser.

Or will you try to debunkor the great truths of vacuum electrolysis?

To make it even moar fun. We get 1860 liters of gas out of each liter
of water.

So after filling the cylinder 2/3 with gas we have only a small
duration worth of self propagating explosion BUT after that the gas
collapses 1860:1 thus creating an IMPLOSION CYCLE! Here the energy
comes from the atmosphere.

You can cry you can whine but at the end of the day, it comes out of
the atmosphere and we get to use 2 times MOAR power strokes.

Even MOAR fun it gets where the implosion is also endothermic
effectively sucking back the heat back into the system back.

Then the you>s can also makes our water gas for almost free so there
is really an abundance of effects.

Meyer>s WFC used off the shelve automagical radio tuners to make the
gas. A some what barbaric method compared to the many others but it
does allow tuning into radio hydrogen FM.

John W. Keely did it 130 years ago, what makes you so dumb?

Lie to me MOAR petroapologists.

Have you managed to torture Paul Pantone to death already?

http://geetfriends.net

What monsters you are!

Lie to me MOAR petroapologists!

Make teh point for me.

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doug · Guest

knews4u2chew@yahoo.com wrote:

[quote]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjUzsNj8NM&NR=1

Maybe this is in language you can understand.[/quote]

doug · Guest

knews4u2chew@yahoo.com wrote:

[quote]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjUzsNj8NM&NR=1

Maybe this is in language you can understand.
[/quote]
It is a discussion of a feedback circuit. So what?

The website it points to is pretty funny. He
thinks there is something magical about a negative
frequency. He also has made no measurements of cell
efficiency so he does not know how inefficient it is.
The biggest claims he makes if for the added efficiency
in an ICE. He should read up on the Carnot cycle some
time.

Uncle Al · Guest

knews4u2chew@yahoo.com wrote:
[quote]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjUzsNj8NM&NR=1

Maybe this is in language you can understand.
[/quote]
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/htoo.htm

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(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
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Don Lancaster · Guest

doug wrote:
[quote]

knews4u2chew@yahoo.com wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjUzsNj8NM&NR=1

Maybe this is in language you can understand.

It is a discussion of a feedback circuit. So what?

The website it points to is pretty funny. He
thinks there is something magical about a negative
frequency. He also has made no measurements of cell
efficiency so he does not know how inefficient it is.
The biggest claims he makes if for the added efficiency
in an ICE. He should read up on the Carnot cycle some
time.
See http://www.tinaja.com/glib/trashelc.pdf[/quote]

--
Many thanks,

Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don@tinaja.com

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gabydewilde · Guest

On Oct 10, 10:02 pm, doug <x...@xx.com> wrote:
[quote]gabydewilde wrote:
On Oct 10, 8:02 am, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjUzsNj8NM&NR=1

Maybe this is in language you can understand.

Browns gas replaces part of the air intake. Normally combustion ends
when there is no more oxygen available. Browns gas not just burns
faster it also contains moar oxygen ass-.

One could combine the gas with petrol to give an example you might be
able to understand. There is moar combustion so there is moar power,
among other trickery here the extra power comes from the lack of
exhaust gases. It>s very obvious? no?

It gets funky where the petroleum doesn>t need to be compressed
anymoar so the injection can take place much moar later in the cycle.
For it also burns faster so it can be injected much-much later then
you think. (Read "retarded")

Here the cylinder can be filled with lots and lots of uncompressed
browns gas, the piston may forcefully suck the gas out of the thermo/
electrolyser.

Or will you try to debunkor the great truths of vacuum electrolysis?

To make it even moar fun. We get 1860 liters of gas out of each liter
of water.

So after filling the cylinder 2/3 with gas we have only a small
duration worth of self propagating explosion BUT after that the gas
collapses 1860:1 thus creating an IMPLOSION CYCLE! Here the energy
comes from the atmosphere.
You can cry you can whine but at the end of the day, it comes out of
the atmosphere and we get to use 2 times MOAR power strokes.
Even MOAR fun it gets where the implosion is also endothermic
effectively sucking back the heat back into the system back.

Sucking heat back is bad. You want to use the heat to generate
pressure and move the piston.
[/quote]
You are confused, it is a self propagating reaction. So it makes fuel
while it combusts fuel.

All for free, as in free lunch, free willy and free mason.

[quote]Then the you>s can also makes our water gas for almost free so there
is really an abundance of effects.

Meyer>s WFC used off the shelve automagical radio tuners to make the
gas. A some what barbaric method compared to the many others but it
does allow tuning into radio hydrogen FM.

Meyer was a fraud. He also did not use radio tuners. You do not
understand what he did.

[/quote]
Ok, lets give you another chance to defend your lies.

Do you have a credible cite with this false accusation claim doug?

Or are you making it up?

Meyer a fraud? Where did you get disinfo?

Could you supply some evidence with your accusation?

Lets see you accuse http://xogen.ca of being a fraud AND use your real
name. Then we can see who is the fraud here.

"Xogen Technologies Inc. is a young, aggressive company who is
currently developing an innovative technology for the treatment of
wastewater.

This technology has the potential to revolutionize the industry’s
approach to wastewater treatment by vastly reducing the footprint of
treatment plants, eliminating most of the conventional unit processes,
eliminating the production of biosolids and simultaneously producing a
byproduct, oxyhydrogen gas, for reuse as an energy source. "

Go for it doug, call them frauds and identify yourself. times.co.uk
deleted their article when confronted with legal reprisals. So you
cant use that to back your claims of fraud. You do understand it is a
crime to accuse people of being frauds without delivering evidence?
It>s not unreasonable to ask you for proof. Have some court
recordings? Any other official documents?

Have you managed to torture Paul Pantone to death already?

April 18, 2007 Judge Royal Hansen denies Paul Pantone his right of
choice of counsel. http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone_Court_2007_04_18.mp3

ohhhhh? how revealing isn>t it?

Where is your proof of the Meyer tech being a fraud doug?

You don>t have any? Then that makes you a liar doesn>t it?

http://www.geetfriends.net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMNCebzgCgg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2KRRgjcJTg

http://geetpantone.blogspot.com/2007/04/projet-echo-moteur-trajet-des-gaz.html

GEET-Pantone Multi-fuel Plasma Reactor Research-Workshop: Projet echo-
moteur - Trajet des gaz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYefXx6ARGs

YouTube - Le moteur à eau

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/geet-pantone/

geet-pantone : Research Library and Workshop

http://www.rexresearch.com/pantone/pantone.htm
Paul Pantone ~ GEET Fuel Pretreater (US Patent # 5,794,601)

http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/paul-pantones-incredible-plasma-reactor-motor

TechEBlog » Paul Pantone>s Incredible Plasma Reactor Motor

http://www.videospider.tv/Videos/Detail/1589994764.aspx

GEET Water Fuel Plasma Reactor Chamber Explained Part 2 - Video
Spider.tv

http://membres.lycos.fr/quanthomme/jlnlabs/bingofuel/pmcjlnen.htm

The Lawnmover retrofitted with Geet Multi-Fuels Processor

http://www-teledyski.pl/audio/Pantone_Magnetic_Plasma_Fuel_Reactor_EngineGEETSPADFrench=adqtuj_kGC8.html

Pantone Magnetic Plasma Fuel Reactor Engine-GEET(SPAD)French

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:GEET_Reactor_by_Paul_Pantone

Lie to me MOAR petroapologist jokah!

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Eeyore · Guest

gabydewilde wrote:

[quote]On Oct 10, 8:02 am, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjUzsNj8NM&NR=1

Maybe this is in language you can understand.

Browns gas replaces part of the air intake.
[/quote]
Bwahahahahahahahahaha !

doug · Guest

gabydewilde wrote:

[quote]On Oct 10, 8:02 am, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjUzsNj8NM&NR=1

Maybe this is in language you can understand.

Browns gas replaces part of the air intake. Normally combustion ends
when there is no more oxygen available. Browns gas not just burns
faster it also contains moar oxygen ass-.

One could combine the gas with petrol to give an example you might be
able to understand. There is moar combustion so there is moar power,
among other trickery here the extra power comes from the lack of
exhaust gases. It>s very obvious? no?

It gets funky where the petroleum doesn>t need to be compressed
anymoar so the injection can take place much moar later in the cycle.
For it also burns faster so it can be injected much-much later then
you think. (Read "retarded")

Here the cylinder can be filled with lots and lots of uncompressed
browns gas, the piston may forcefully suck the gas out of the thermo/
electrolyser.

Or will you try to debunkor the great truths of vacuum electrolysis?

To make it even moar fun. We get 1860 liters of gas out of each liter
of water.

So after filling the cylinder 2/3 with gas we have only a small
duration worth of self propagating explosion BUT after that the gas
collapses 1860:1 thus creating an IMPLOSION CYCLE! Here the energy
comes from the atmosphere.
[/quote]
An implosion would be really bad since it is the explosion which
generates pressure on the piston and moves it.
[quote]
You can cry you can whine but at the end of the day, it comes out of
the atmosphere and we get to use 2 times MOAR power strokes.
[/quote]
No, you get zero instead of one.
[quote]
Even MOAR fun it gets where the implosion is also endothermic
effectively sucking back the heat back into the system back.
[/quote]
Sucking heat back is bad. You want to use the heat to generate
pressure and move the piston.
[quote]
Then the you>s can also makes our water gas for almost free so there
is really an abundance of effects.
[/quote]
It is inefficient to make electrolysis so you are better off
just putting in an electric motor.
[quote]
Meyer>s WFC used off the shelve automagical radio tuners to make the
gas. A some what barbaric method compared to the many others but it
does allow tuning into radio hydrogen FM.
[/quote]
Meyer was a fraud. He also did not use radio tuners. You do not
understand what he did.
[quote]
John W. Keely did it 130 years ago, what makes you so dumb?

Lie to me MOAR petroapologists.
[/quote]
Sorry but I am telling you the truth. The fact that you are
deluded is not my fault.
[quote]
Have you managed to torture Paul Pantone to death already?

http://geetfriends.net

What monsters you are!

Lie to me MOAR petroapologists!

Make teh point for me.

____
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http://knol.google.com/k/gaby-de-wilde/garrett-carburetor/1yrf1mzjtxzk5/5
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/factuurexpress[/quote]

Guest

On Oct 10, 5:18 pm, Don Lancaster <d...@tinaja.com> wrote:
[quote]gabydewilde wrote:
"Xogen Technologies Inc. is a young, aggressive company who is
currently developing an innovative technology for the treatment of
wastewater.

Xogen was a post-Meyer Canadian penny stock who had to publicly
apologize to the Canadain equivalent SEC for lying about electrolysis.

[/quote]
No one named Meyer had anything to do with Xogen.
Call his brother and ask.

[quote]An unheard of occurrance.

Because it never happened.[/quote]

[quote]--
Many thanks,

You are welcome.[/quote]

gabydewilde · Guest

On Oct 11, 2:42 am, doug <x...@xx.com> wrote:
[quote]gabydewilde wrote:
On Oct 10, 10:02 pm, doug <x...@xx.com> wrote:

Meyer was a fraud. He also did not use radio tuners. You do not
understand what he did.

Ok, lets give you another chance to defend your lies.

Do you have a credible cite with this false accusation claim doug?

He was convicted of fraud in court. He used frequencies in the KHz
range. Radio tuners work in the MHz range. He was transmitting
power, radio tuners are used for receiving signals. Need any more?

Or are you making it up?

Meyer a fraud? Where did you get disinfo?

The court felt it was fraud when they convicted him

[/quote]
I said "prove it".

I say there never was a court case.

If there was there would be a record of it.

All US court cases should have a record.

I think that what you are talking about was not a court case at all.

Convicted of fraud you say.

Well show me the evidence?

Until you do you are making fraudulent accusations.

Punishable by law.

Prove your innocence doug.

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gabydewilde · Guest

On Oct 11, 2:18 am, Don Lancaster <d...@tinaja.com> wrote:
[quote]gabydewilde wrote:
"Xogen Technologies Inc. is a young, aggressive company who is
currently developing an innovative technology for the treatment of
wastewater.

Xogen was a post-Meyer Canadian penny stock who had to publicly
apologize to the Canadain equivalent SEC for lying about electrolysis.

An unheard of occurrance.

[/quote]
Empty claims again Donny boy?

Show us some proof or I will have to dismiss it for your usual
nonsense chatter.

You are merely posting here to spam your links.

_____
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gabydewilde · Guest

On Oct 11, 5:08 am, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
[quote]On Oct 10, 5:18 pm, Don Lancaster <d...@tinaja.com> wrote:

gabydewilde wrote:
"Xogen Technologies Inc. is a young, aggressive company who is
currently developing an innovative technology for the treatment of
wastewater.

Xogen was a post-Meyer Canadian penny stock who had to publicly
apologize to the Canadain equivalent SEC for lying about electrolysis.

No one named Meyer had anything to do with Xogen.
Call his brother and ask.

[/quote]
Dont spoil the fun. :-)

[quote]An unheard of occurrance.

Because it never happened.

[/quote]
If you are right Don just made up a claim to debunk nonsense.

It>s that hilarious?

How will he talk himself out of this one?

[quote]--
Many thanks,

You are welcome.
[/quote]
No please just go away Don.

lol

Go to your eBay spammer friends.

My thanks in advance.

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gabydewilde · Guest

On Oct 11, 6:37 am, Don Lancaster <d...@tinaja.com> wrote:
[quote]gabydewilde wrote:
On Oct 11, 2:42 am, doug <x...@xx.com> wrote:
gabydewilde wrote:
On Oct 10, 10:02 pm, doug <x...@xx.com> wrote:
Meyer was a fraud. He also did not use radio tuners. You do not
understand what he did.
Ok, lets give you another chance to defend your lies.
Do you have a credible cite with this false accusation claim doug?
He was convicted of fraud in court. He used frequencies in the KHz
range. Radio tuners work in the MHz range. He was transmitting
power, radio tuners are used for receiving signals. Need any more?

Or are you making it up?
Meyer a fraud? Where did you get disinfo?
The court felt it was fraud when they convicted him

I said "prove it".

I say there never was a court case.

Since the Ohio judicial system personally tried to charge me $19,000.00
for a transcript of the Meyer Electrocity Fraud case,
[/quote]
That doesn>t sound at all like they are trying to hide something.

Or wait..... BWHAHAHA!!!

So you confess you failed to get the court transcript.

Could you at least prove he was found guilty in this court case you
made up.

What was the sentence again?

[quote]the trial most
certainly did exist.

[/quote]
IF the court case did happen it goes something like this:

April 18, 2007 Judge Royal Hansen denies Paul Pantone his right of
choice of counsel.
http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone_Court_2007_04...

Paul Pantone was railroaded through a series of bizarre legal
maneuvers by powerful and corrupt conspirators into a State Mental
Hospital in Provo Utah where he resides today. He>s supposed to be
incompetent for claiming that one can fuel a car with mostly water
using his system and for not getting along with fired attorneys under
Utah Code 77-15-5(4-5) who betrayed him. Never mind the over 200 GEET
devices in the US currently running on mostly water.

Here you go Donny boy, you chuck of shit.

December 12, 2005 Court Hearing.
http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone_Court_2007_02_28.mp3

February 28, 2007 Court Hearing.
http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone_Court_2007_04_18.mp3

April 18, 2007 Judge Royal Hansen denies Paul Pantone his right of
choice of counsel.
http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone_Court_2007_12_11a.mp3

December 11, 2007 Court Hearing about recusal.
http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone_Court_2008_01_07.mp3

January 7, 2008 4th District Hearing on Utah State Hospital abuse.
http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone_Court_2008_01_09.mp3

January 9, 2008 Hearing on Judge Royal Hansen>s recuse status.
http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone_Court_2008_01_09.mp3

Pantone tortured to death by the Utah state.

Nothing you can say will justify it.

You liar scum.

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