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Eeyore
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 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
[quote]Sjouke Burry wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
I>m biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What>s the recommended replacement?
...Jim Thompson
About 3 times I have used the removal tool from the
Symantec/norton site.
Does that mean the removal tool doesn>t work properly??
What do you use now for anti-virus protection?
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CONDOM ?
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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flipper wrote:
[quote]Jim Thompson wrote:
Sjouke Burry wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
I>m biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What>s the recommended replacement?
...Jim Thompson
About 3 times I have used the removal tool from the
Symantec/norton site.
Does that mean the removal tool doesn>t work properly??
If things are 'fine' then it usually works well enough. But if
anything is off then it often leaves remnants, which aren>t usually a
problem for anything other than Symantec programs. Like removing an
older version of NAV to install a new one: the new install fails.
[/quote]
Ah ! The sweet smell of QUALITY software !
Does anyone remember when Norton Tools was the de rigeur requirement for
anyone serious in IT ?
If only such a thing still existed !
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Spehro Pefhany
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:08:56 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
[quote]
Jim Thompson wrote:
Sjouke Burry wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
I>m biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What>s the recommended replacement?
...Jim Thompson
About 3 times I have used the removal tool from the
Symantec/norton site.
Does that mean the removal tool doesn>t work properly??
What do you use now for anti-virus protection?
CONDOM ?
Graham
[/quote]
Got something on your mind?
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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Sjouke Burry wrote:
[quote]It means that the removal went oke, for 3 friends of friends computers.
I either install Avg or Avast, with Winpatrol and the runtime part of
Spybot(Teatimer).
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AVG here and still updating fine on V 7.5. I think they realised they
goofed on V 8. I suppose that>s not much of a recommendation then !
:-(
But at least the updates still keep coming daily.
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:19 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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Tom Biasi wrote:
[quote]Virus protection progs are really not all that different. The important
factor is their data base of known viruses. Any good program needs to update
frequently.
SEP is Symantec>s end point protectection. They bought out a really good
engine.
AVG works fine. I don>t care for McAfee.
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McAfee is IME as much of a resource hog as Symantec.
AVG here too. Still on 7.5 btw
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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Paul Urbanus wrote:
[quote]Jim Thompson wrote:
I>m biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What>s the recommended replacement?
I use ESET NOD32. Recommended by the IT guy from a friends small (20
person) software company. Next choice would be Trend Micro.
The IT guy and my friend heavily advise against Norton - uses too many
resources, thus slowing down the system.
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To about a snail>s crawl in most cases.
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Sjouke Burry
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:32 am Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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Eeyore wrote:
[quote]
Sjouke Burry wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
I>m biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What>s the recommended replacement?
About 3 times I have used the removal tool from the
Symantec/norton site.
You mean you didn>t learn the first time ?
You may need to explain about that to Jim. He seems like a bit of
innocent in these matters.
Graham
Twas for 3 different people, at 3 different times, for[/quote]
different crapware.
I sometimes volunteer to try and drag a computer out of the mud.
Most of them have Norton or macafee, and people think thats enough. |
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john jardine
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:12 am Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:st6le4p4emi22jp32v9sg5t9edllvk06fr@4ax.com...
[quote]
I>m biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What>s the recommended replacement?
...Jim Thompson
[...][/quote]
Maybe one a month I>ll run "Ad-aware" http://www.lavasoft.com/. Never finds
anything, hence I>ve no idea how good it is. Through total lack of interest
on my part I>m not even sure what it>s even supposed to be doing.
Presumably it does work as a couple of years ago it spotted a Trojan picked
up within a couple of minutes of installing my new broadband modem and thus
'incentivised' me (been watching too much recent TV :), to fit a firewall
prog 'ZoneAlarm'. (I>m on an original XP install).
Seems a well battened down firewall may be a key. I still visit the same
scummy/weird corners of the Internet and had enormous scum software
problems using Win95/98 but at that time had no firewall installed. |
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John Fields
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:30 am Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:14:54 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
[quote]
flipper wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Sjouke Burry wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
I>m biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What>s the recommended replacement?
...Jim Thompson
About 3 times I have used the removal tool from the
Symantec/norton site.
Does that mean the removal tool doesn>t work properly??
If things are 'fine' then it usually works well enough. But if
anything is off then it often leaves remnants, which aren>t usually a
problem for anything other than Symantec programs. Like removing an
older version of NAV to install a new one: the new install fails.
Ah ! The sweet smell of QUALITY software !
Does anyone remember when Norton Tools was the de rigeur requirement for
anyone serious in IT ?
[/quote]
---
You mean:
news:g5one4pbu8ogcm3fergm0en2rk6kn0o1pt@4ax.com
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Jim Thompson
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:00 am Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 23:12:45 +0100, "john jardine"
<john.jardine@idnet.co.uk> wrote:
[quote]
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:st6le4p4emi22jp32v9sg5t9edllvk06fr@4ax.com...
I>m biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What>s the recommended replacement?
...Jim Thompson
[...]
Maybe one a month I>ll run "Ad-aware" http://www.lavasoft.com/. Never finds
anything, hence I>ve no idea how good it is. Through total lack of interest
on my part I>m not even sure what it>s even supposed to be doing.
Presumably it does work as a couple of years ago it spotted a Trojan picked
up within a couple of minutes of installing my new broadband modem and thus
'incentivised' me (been watching too much recent TV :), to fit a firewall
prog 'ZoneAlarm'. (I>m on an original XP install).
Seems a well battened down firewall may be a key. I still visit the same
scummy/weird corners of the Internet and had enormous scum software
problems using Win95/98 but at that time had no firewall installed.
[/quote]
I run both Ad-aware and Spybot periodically... seems to catch mostly
nuisance cookies.
I sometimes wonder if you can really get much of anything if you
follow the simple rules of not opening anything that comes via E-mail,
and watch out what sites you download from.
Time to break out the vino and prep myself so I don>t get too sick
during the "debate" ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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john jardine wrote:
[quote]"Jim Thompson" wrote
I>m biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What>s the recommended replacement?
Maybe one a month I>ll run "Ad-aware" http://www.lavasoft.com/. Never finds
anything, hence I>ve no idea how good it is. Through total lack of interest
on my part I>m not even sure what it>s even supposed to be doing.
[/quote]
It>s supposed to pick up 'malware' rather than outright viruses. I use it
occasionally myself too. It>ll also get rid of tracking cookies AIUI.
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
[quote]I sometimes wonder if you can really get much of anything if you
follow the simple rules of not opening anything that comes via E-mail,
and watch out what sites you download from.
[/quote]
Since you have me killfiled you probably won>t see this useful info unless
someone else replies but I>m advised that if you use a proper router it>s quite
difficult to get viruses, unless you>re daft enough to deliberately download
them or run dodgy scripts on webpages.
I still use a software firewall though. I find the older versions of Zone Alarm
are fine. Like everything else it>s turned into bloatware :-( .Version
4.5.594 here. I like the way it alerts you if a new program wants access to the
net and you can say NO !
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
[quote]Eeyore wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Sjouke Burry wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
I>m biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What>s the recommended replacement?
About 3 times I have used the removal tool from the
Symantec/norton site.
Does that mean the removal tool doesn>t work properly??
What do you use now for anti-virus protection?
CONDOM ?
Graham
Got something on your mind?
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Must have ! LOL ! ;~)
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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John Fields wrote:
[quote]Eeyore wrote:
flipper wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Sjouke Burry wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
I>m biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What>s the recommended replacement?
About 3 times I have used the removal tool from the
Symantec/norton site.
Does that mean the removal tool doesn>t work properly??
If things are 'fine' then it usually works well enough. But if
anything is off then it often leaves remnants, which aren>t usually a
problem for anything other than Symantec programs. Like removing an
older version of NAV to install a new one: the new install fails.
Ah ! The sweet smell of QUALITY software !
Does anyone remember when Norton Tools was the de rigeur requirement for
anyone serious in IT ?
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You mean:
news:g5one4pbu8ogcm3fergm0en2rk6kn0o1pt@4ax.com
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Uhuh.
And just TWO FLOPPY DISKS too ! Not sure how many disks later versions came
on. I must have several copies lying around in the 'archive' somewhere. It>s
still on my DOS PC.
On the golden oldies theme btw, did you ever see applications written in 32
bit DOS ? One of my regular jobs at one time was to provide support for one.
They 'flew' !
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Eeyore
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus |
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Sjouke Burry wrote:
[quote]Eeyore wrote:
Sjouke Burry wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
I>m biting the bullet and removing Symantec/Norton Antivirus.
What>s the recommended replacement?
About 3 times I have used the removal tool from the
Symantec/norton site.
You mean you didn>t learn the first time ?
You may need to explain about that to Jim. He seems like a bit of
innocent in these matters.
Twas for 3 different people, at 3 different times, for
different crapware.
I sometimes volunteer to try and drag a computer out of the mud.
Most of them have Norton or macafee, and people think thats enough.
[/quote]
Oh tell me about it ! Sorry I left out the wink in the previous btw.
Doing something like that a few months ago led to me losing my driving
licence. The guy whose computer I was fixing (he was crying like a child
on the phone to get me to come over) argued with me over what I was
doing. After 1 1/2 hours it was OK again. And I designed him 2 damn
websites for free TOO !
I was so furious I went out and bought a 4 pack of strong lager to calm
down and drank the lot.
About 5 hours later I had to go out. Thought I was sober and got pulled
over by chance. And that>s after 32 years of a completely unblemished
licence too !
Plus it may also lose me an upcoming interesting new opportunity
involving a Chinese company and UK company sort of merging, since I>d
need to drive to the UK place (too far and out of the way to commute).
Bastard.
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