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Gene E. Bloch
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 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:04 am Post subject: Re: Spot Messenger - Discussions? |
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On 10/10/2008, ps56k posted this:
[quote]Jack Erbes wrote:
Jack Erbes wrote:
ps56k wrote:
here>s the thread I had over the summer in the SAT NAV newsgroup -
BTW - Is there any other way to "reference" a previous newsgroup
thread ?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.geo.satellite-nav/browse_thread/thread/a1a5dd1da4c7e814/ae39d2e2452d836a?lnk=st&q=spot+locator+#ae39d2e2452d836a
Right click on the post, click on Copy Message Location, then paste
that into an email or document.
Your post is at:
news://news.motzarella.org:119/eE8Hk.2034$W06.307@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com
Jack
And replying to my own post, I should have said that "your post is
contained in the thread at", the link is to the thread, not the
individual posts.
Jack
FYI - what news reader software are you using ? I>m using Outlook Express.
The "right click" only appears to be valid for your specific software,
as I>m using Outlook Express and don>t see the "copy message location".
Also - since we all are using different news servers provided by our ISP,
or may be using a private subscribed to service,
the actual URL is only valid for your news server....
That>s why I went to Deja / Google Groups - as there doesn>t seem to be any
other generic way -
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Try looking at the message>s full headers (if necessary in your
newsreader, look at the message source).
For instance, in your message that I am replying to, I see
Message-ID: <q4RHk.4355$Ws1.1640@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>
and
References: <C512302F.23405%wcpatrick@cencoast.com>
<48eceaca$0$7366$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com>
<eE8Hk.2034$W06.307@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com>
<q5dHk.2965$D32.2244@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>
<gckn6e$jfl$1@registered.motzarella.org>
<gcknga$md7$1@registered.motzarella.org>
The stuff between the angle brackets <> are the message IDs, the first
being the one for your message, and the second, the whole list of the
messages above yours in the thread.
My newsreaders provide ways to go to a messsage, given its ID. The
details depend on the newsreader.
This seems to address your question as I interpret it...
--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") |
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Jack Erbes
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Spot Messenger - Discussions? |
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ps56k wrote:
<snip>
[quote]
FYI - what news reader software are you using ? I>m using Outlook Express.
The "right click" only appears to be valid for your specific software,
as I>m using Outlook Express and don>t see the "copy message location".
Also - since we all are using different news servers provided by our ISP,
or may be using a private subscribed to service,
the actual URL is only valid for your news server....
That>s why I went to Deja / Google Groups - as there doesn>t seem to be any
other generic way -
[/quote]
I>m using thunderbird. What you want is to find the properties of the
post and then copy the URL. Check your various menus for "copy link
location" or something like that. Or look for "send page" or "send link
to page" and then copy the link out of the resulting email.
I don>t use OE ever and never will. I simply don>t like the way it
works and I have no desire to become a user of the most highly targetted
for virus/spyware/spam/junkmail user group in the world, that being OE
users.
Try firefox (browser) and thunderbird (email), I>ll bet you>ll never go
back to the IE/OE. If M$ did not make it part of Windows I doubt that
anyone would use it.
If you want way to read usenet newsgroups in ASCII text without any
advertising or images, install thunderbird, go to news.motzarella.org,
and subscribe to this newsgroup.
Jack |
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Bill Smith
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| Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: Solar Activity: Is There Aspirin for This GNSS Headache? |
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[quote]"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:f2REk.368215$yE1.213004@attbi_s21...
Survey & Construction Newsletter, Early October
http://sc.gpsworld.com/gpssc/content/printContentPopup.jsp?id=555255
The height of the next solar cycle will occur in the 2011-2012 time frame.
That>s when the free electrons propagated in the Earth>s ionosphere will be
the most dynamic and the most difficult to model — and when GNSS users need
to be prepared.
[/quote]
I can>t wait! The ham bands have been too quiet but they>re finally starting
to get better now that we>re on the up side of this cycle. |
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HIPAR
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Is Dual-Frequency GPS — As We Know It — Beco ming Obsole |
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On Oct 24, 11:48 am, claudegps <claude...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On 24 Ott, 15:51, HIPAR <captc...@verizon.net> wrote:
[cut]
By the time 2021 arrives there will be other technologies and
alternative satellite constellations available. Europe is promising
us a much better system.
Are you very sure that they (we... I>m european :) ) will maintain
those promises.
I have some doubts :)
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I know there has been some bickering among the Europeans about the
cost, funding and need for your system. Those problems now appear to
be resolved according to reports that I have read.
You have a wealth of historical background from NAVSTAR concerning the
design and operation of a satellite navigation system. Two test
satellites are performing as predicted with the waveform/modulation
being more robust in a multipath environment than our NAVSTAR. The
Ariane launch vehicle is now well on its way to becoming a premier
entryway into space.
So yes, my view from this side the proverbial 'pond'; if you all can
continue to get along over there, Europe will deliver.
--- CHAS |
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claudegps
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Is Dual-Frequency GPS — As We Know It — Beco ming Obsole |
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On 24 Ott, 18:52, HIPAR <captc...@verizon.net> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 24, 11:48 am, claudegps <claude...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Ott, 15:51, HIPAR <captc...@verizon.net> wrote:
[cut]
By the time 2021 arrives there will be other technologies and
alternative satellite constellations available. Europe is promising
us a much better system.
Are you very sure that they (we... I>m european :) ) will maintain
those promises.
I have some doubts :)
I know there has been some bickering among the Europeans about the
cost, funding and need for your system. Those problems now appear to
be resolved according to reports that I have read.
[/quote]
Yes, the biggest problems seems to be solved now.
[quote]You have a wealth of historical background from NAVSTAR concerning the
design and operation of a satellite navigation system. Two test
satellites are performing as predicted with the waveform/modulation
being more robust in a multipath environment than our NAVSTAR. The
Ariane launch vehicle is now well on its way to becoming a premier
entryway into space.
[/quote]
The two satellites are working, but the program is very very late.
If I remember well, today we should have some satellites up-and-
running (not just the two test SVs).
I don>t know actually when the future launches are planned
Yes, Ariane is good. The problem is not the launcher, but what to
launch I think :)
[quote]
So yes, my view from this side the proverbial 'pond'; if you all can
continue to get along over there, Europe will deliver.
[/quote]
I also think that Europe will deliver the sistem, but I really would
not bet they will deliver "on time".
The risk is to have an obsolete system or always delay trying to get
the system better but never reach a good point.
We will see! :) |
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Jack Yeazel
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: UK positioned for sat-nav prizes |
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Happy Trails wrote:
[quote]On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:33:25 -0700 (PDT), "nickw7coc@gmail.com"
nickw7coc@gmail.com> wrote:
The winning idea is a sat-nav locator and communication system, built
into a lifejacket, that starts when immersed.
Just don>t plan on getting lost at sea anytime soon, hahahahaha!
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Personal Locater beacons seem to be the new 'hot' GPS item:
http://www.mcmurdo.co.uk/products/products.html?product_type=2&product_sector=5
http://www.findmespot.com/Home.aspx
These transmit on the usual 121.5MH aircraft locater signal and the new 604MH
which can be detected by geostationary satellites... Thus they don>t need
to be within cell phone range and can work about anywhere in the world...
We were asked to review one, but they are somewhat out of our "scope"...
--
Jack
Get general GPS information at: http://www.gpsinformation.net/ |
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Jack Yeazel
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Survey Book or Tutorial Information Recommendations? |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
[quote]From Private email:
"Can anyone recommend any sort of training or training
materials, i.e. book, video, classes etc. that is a how-to
guide for the different aspects of gps surveying? I>m
looking for something that will bring together both the
theory and the actual methodology for carrying out the
different types of GPS surveying in a real world
environment, from collecting the data to post-processing
it using reference stations and more. I>m not looking for
something that just gives a set of steps without an
explanation, and I>m also not looking for just theory
without practical application. Any ideas? There is a
textbook called GPS for Land Surveyors, there is a 3rd
edition that was just released, has anyone seen the book
and know if it would be helpful? There is another textbook
called GPS Satellite Surveying but that looks like it is
mainly theoretical".
Suggestions would be appreciated.
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Hi Sam -I don>t have any experience with 'professional'
surveying, but I do know a little about the standard
coordinate system used in the US, State Plane Coordinates:
http://www.gpsinformation.net/state-plane-mag.html
Also (after receiving a lot of help) I devised a system
to display these coordinates in Magellan hand-held units
by using their User Grid feature...
This might be useful for amateurs that have access to State
Plane Coordinate data and would like to determine their
locations...
JY
--
Jack
Get general GPS information at: http://www.gpsinformation.net/ |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:02 am Post subject: Re: Survey Book or Tutorial Information Recommendations? |
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On Oct 23, 8:49 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]From Private email:
"Can anyone recommend any sort of training or training
materials, i.e. book, video, classes etc. that is a how-to
guide for the different aspects of gps surveying? I>m
looking for something that will bring together both the
theory and the actual methodology for carrying out the
different types of GPS surveying in a real world
environment, from collecting the data to post-processing
it using reference stations and more. I>m not looking for
something that just gives a set of steps without an
explanation, and I>m also not looking for just theory
without practical application. Any ideas? There is a
textbook called GPS for Land Surveyors, there is a 3rd
edition that was just released, has anyone seen the book
and know if it would be helpful? There is another textbook
called GPS Satellite Surveying but that looks like it is
mainly theoretical".
Suggestions would be appreciated.
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US Army Corps of Engineers manual:
http://www.usace.army.mil/publications/eng-manuals/em1110-1-1003/toc.htm
If the contents aren>t what>s wanted, at least the price is right. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Survey Book or Tutorial Information Recommendations? |
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On Oct 23, 8:49 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]From Private email:
"Can anyone recommend any sort of training or training
materials, i.e. book, video, classes etc. that is a how-to
guide for the different aspects of gps surveying? I>m
looking for something that will bring together both the
theory and the actual methodology for carrying out the
different types of GPS surveying in a real world
environment, from collecting the data to post-processing
it using reference stations and more. I>m not looking for
something that just gives a set of steps without an
explanation, and I>m also not looking for just theory
without practical application. Any ideas? There is a
textbook called GPS for Land Surveyors, there is a 3rd
edition that was just released, has anyone seen the book
and know if it would be helpful? There is another textbook
called GPS Satellite Surveying but that looks like it is
mainly theoretical".
Suggestions would be appreciated.
[/quote]
The US Army Corps of Engineers manual, EM 1110-1-1003, Title:
Engineering and Design - NAVSTAR Global Positioning System Surveying,
is available (free) here:
http://www.usace.army.mil/publications/eng-manuals/em1110-1-1003/toc.htm |
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Larry
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:00 am Post subject: Re: GPS On Iphone |
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virig <virginia.wats@gmail.com> wrote in news:a9a8d788-b5f7-4603-a853-
eac017552da0@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
[quote]What doesn>t the new iPhone have
[/quote]
simple cut and paste.....
no Flash player
no Java
no Javascript
lacks many COMMON audio and video codecs on purpose to sell you:
DivX
wma
wmv
real media (none at all)
It will only play formats Apple sells.
The list goes on and on....iPhone is a pocket WebTV, like having a Box
Office in your pocket to steal your money. |
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Sam
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:39 am Post subject: Re: Garmin nuvi 765 or 765T |
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adkcamper wrote:
: I>m interested in this model as well. Found some good info and other
: links at
: http://gpstracklog.typepad.com/gps_tracklog/2008/10/garmin-nuvi-755.html.
Hmm. This unit does sound interesting. I wonder why only some places have
lane assist and others don>t? The 3D buildings is really unnecessary and
taxes the Nuvi>s CPU and shortens the battery life.
I wonder how the Navteq traffic coverage in Canada is since Canada is still
in the dark agencies when it comes to traffic alerts. |
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Keith
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: Re: Garmin nuvi 765 or 765T |
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:39:26 -0800, "Sam" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
[quote]adkcamper wrote:
: I>m interested in this model as well. Found some good info and other
: links at
: http://gpstracklog.typepad.com/gps_tracklog/2008/10/garmin-nuvi-755.html.
Hmm. This unit does sound interesting. I wonder why only some places have
lane assist and others don>t? The 3D buildings is really unnecessary and
taxes the Nuvi>s CPU and shortens the battery life.
I wonder how the Navteq traffic coverage in Canada is since Canada is still
in the dark agencies when it comes to traffic alerts.
[/quote]
Not too well it seems
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=119558 |
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Sam
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: Re: Garmin nuvi 765 or 765T |
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Keith wrote:
::: I wonder how the Navteq traffic coverage in Canada is since
::: Canada is still in the dark agencies when it comes to traffic
::: alerts.
::
:: Not too well it seems
:: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=119558
Nice link Keith. Definitely one for the archives! :) |
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Juhani Sjöblom
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: Ryhmän sfnet.atk virallinen kuvaus |
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Alan arvostuksesta kertoo varsin suoraan se miten alan ammattityöväestö
suhtautuu tekemiseensä. Siitä voidaan ottaa esimerkkejä laajasti.
Ammattilaiset haluavat usein myös jälkikasvustaan työnsä jatkajia.
Yritysmaailma on pullollaan työstä ylpeitä isältä pojalle siirrettyä
sukuosaamista. Mutta yksi ala loistaa poissaolollaan. Yksikään ydinalan
ammattilainen ei kehu firmaansa julkisesti netissä, lehdissä, ei edes asiaa
kyselevälle lapselleen. Jos katsomme ketkä julkisuudessa ydinlobbailevat,
niin yhtään alan ammattilaista ei taatusti näy lehtiotsikoissa, netissä
saati mualla. Vain rahalla ostettavia politikkoja ja vastaavia, jotka eivät
erota uraania hiilimustasta taatusti.
Rupesin todella ihmettelemään miksi. Ja ennenkaikkea KETKÄ ovat maassamme
nykyään ydinalan ammattilaisia? Heitä on maassamme tietysti tuhansittain,
mutta keitä? Heille on yhteinen piirre se, ettei näillä ole esim.
perustuslakiemme mukaista lakko-oikeutta, kellään! Toinen keskeinen piirre
on niinikää lainvastaiset ylipitkät jopa 12h työvuorot ja loputtomat
ylityöjaksot vailla omaa päätäntäoikeutta. Kolmas ominaisuus on tekemänsä
työn arkaluontoisuus, mikä tarkoittaa orjallista vaitiololupauspakotetta
uhkailu-ukaaseineen ydinjohdolta. Esim. OL-1,OL-2 ja OL-3 työmailla ei
KETÄÄN saa mennä vapaasti jututtamaan tekemisistään ja määräys on ehdoton,
vaikka maamme pitäisi olla demokratia. Mikä kertoo myös alan valonarkuudesta
ja hämäryydestä enemmän kuin paljon.
Niinikää ydintyöläisten palkkataso on enmemmän kuin romahtanut loistonsa
päivistä. Jos lasketaan Suomen ydintyöläisten ansiotasot saadaan tyytyä jopa
7 euron tuntipalkkoihin! Reippaasti alle jopa siivoojaminimistä puhutaan
ydinalan ammattilaisistamme keskimäärin kautta maamme! Kun vielä 70-luvulla
ydinosaaja oli huippupalkkalainen ja arvostettu, on hän tänään lähinnä
kansan hyljeksimä reppupuolalainen, liettualaisorja, turkkilainen, yms.
joita katsotaan pitkin nenänvartta, jopa kaupan kassalla, koska heitä
arvotetaan toki myös olemattoman orjapalkkaostovopimansa mukaan
olemattomuuksiin. Ja tieto siitä, että suurin osa ei maksa edes veroja,
saati sotuja ja vastaavia alentaa tasoa mutasarjaan kansan silmin.
Vaarallisesta työstä johtuvat moninkymmenkertaiset sairastumisriskit
työtapaturmista, kielitaidottomuutensa takia tulee valtavasti
onnettomuuslisäriskejä, samoin kouluttautumattomuuksistaan, säteilystä ja
vastaavista lisäriskeistä kiistatta puhutaan ydintyöläisissä. Hyvällä ei
näihin pitkälti "slummiparakeissaan "huuhaileviin" ydinorjin suhtauduta enää
edes harmistuneitten kauppiaitten piirissä. Säteilyvaaransa takia heillä on
normaalityöläisiä ankarammat
lääkärintarkastusvaateet jne. Ydintyöläiselle on kauhistus , jos lapsensa
tulisivat samaan työhön jatkajiksi.Voi vaan hämmästellä kuinka nopeasti
ydinalan mega-arvostus on romahtanut nykyiseen mitäänsanomattomuuteensa.
heijastellen sitä pettymystä mitä ydinvoiman loisteliaitten lupausten
romahdettua tshernobyliin on tuottanut. Voi vaan arvailla, että kuinkan näin
totaalisen pettymyksen ala saa enää jatkossa KETÄÄN kiinostumaan sen
ylläpidosta? |
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