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Rational Hypotenuse Axiom.By Aiya-Oba
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Aiya-Oba
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Rational Hypotenuse Axiom.By Aiya-Oba Reply with quote

Other than the hypotenuse, no ratio of the sum of the squares of all
the sides of non isosceles right triangle, to the square of one side
is rational.-Aiya-Oba

Thus, a^2 + b^2 + c^2/c^2 = 2

Such that,

3^2 + 4^2 + 5^2/3^2 = 5.555555556

3^2 + 4^2 + 5^2/4^2 = 3.125

and,

3^2 + 4^2 + 5^2/5^2 = 2.
Q E D
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Jesse F. Hughes
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Rational Hypotenuse Axiom.By Aiya-Oba Reply with quote

Aiya-Oba <aaiyaoba@rcc.mass.edu> writes:

[quote]Other than the hypotenuse, no ratio of the sum of the squares of all
the sides of non isosceles right triangle, to the square of one side
is rational.-Aiya-Oba

Thus, a^2 + b^2 + c^2/c^2 = 2

Such that,
^^^^^^^^^ ???

3^2 + 4^2 + 5^2/3^2 = 5.555555556
[/quote]
50 / 9 is rational.
[quote]
3^2 + 4^2 + 5^2/4^2 = 3.125
[/quote]
50 / 16 is rational.
[quote]
and,

3^2 + 4^2 + 5^2/5^2 = 2.
Q E D
^^^^^[/quote]

Those letters don>t mean "End of post", you know. They>re supposed to
follow a proof, not an example (and certainly not a counterexample).

I suspect you meant that in every case, the ratios

(a^2 + b^2 + c^2)/a^2 and (a^2 + b^2 + c^2)/b^2

are non-integers when c^2 = a^2 + b^2 and a != b, i.e., that the
ratios

2(a^2+b^2)/a^2 and 2(a^2 + b^2)/b^2

are non-integers when a != b. Of course, this is also false. If the
length a is any multiple of the length b (say, b = 1 and a = 2), then
the second ratio is an integer. Let a = kb (where k is an integer)
and we have

2 ( k^2 b^2 + b^2 ) / b^2 = 2 ( k^2 + 1 ),

which is obviously a counterexample.

So even a "fixed" statement of your "axiom" (another mis-used term) is
false.

--
"I>d step through arguments in such detail that it was like I was
teaching basic arithmetic and some poster would come back and act like
I hadn>t said anything that made sense. For a while I almost started
to doubt myself." -- James S. Harris, so close and yet....
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Aiya-Oba
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Rational Hypotenuse Axiom.By Aiya-Oba Reply with quote

On Jul 23, 5:11 am, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...@phiwumbda.org> wrote:
[quote]Aiya-Oba <aaiya...@rcc.mass.edu> writes:
Other than the hypotenuse, no ratio of the sum of the squares of all
the sides of non isosceles right triangle, to the square of one side
is rational.-Aiya-Oba

   Thus,  a^2  +  b^2  +  c^2/c^2   =    2

   Such that,
     ^^^^^^^^^ ???

    3^2  +  4^2  +  5^2/3^2   = 5.555555556

     50 / 9 is rational.



   3^2   +  4^2  +  5^2/4^2   =  3.125

     50 / 16 is rational.

    and,

   3^2   +   4^2   +  5^2/5^2   =     2.
                                                    Q E D

                                                      ^^^^^

Those letters don>t mean "End of post", you know.  They>re supposed to
follow a proof, not an example (and certainly not a counterexample).

I suspect you meant that in every case, the ratios

  (a^2 + b^2 + c^2)/a^2 and (a^2 + b^2 + c^2)/b^2

are non-integers when c^2 = a^2 + b^2 and a != b, i.e., that the
ratios

  2(a^2+b^2)/a^2 and 2(a^2 + b^2)/b^2

are non-integers when a != b.  Of course, this is also false.  If the
length a is any multiple of the length b (say, b = 1 and a = 2), then
the second ratio is an integer.  Let a = kb (where k is an integer)
and we have

  2 ( k^2 b^2 + b^2 ) / b^2 = 2 ( k^2 + 1 ),

which is obviously a counterexample.

So even a "fixed" statement of your "axiom" (another mis-used term) is
false.

--
"I>d step through arguments in such detail that it was like I was
teaching basic arithmetic and some poster would come back and act like
I hadn>t said anything that made sense.  For a while I almost started
to doubt myself."  -- James S. Harris, so close and yet....
[/quote]



Hi Jesse F. Hughes:
Thanks for your interest in Rational Hypotenuse Axiom.
However, you did not observe that I specifically made sure that the
right triangle at issue here is the non-isosceles right triangle,
which mean Rational Hypotenuse Axiom, is all about the famous
Pythagorean Triplet, hence the word axiom, to indicate the already
well-known and accepted relation ( a^2 + b^2 = c^2 ) of the
Pythagorean Triple. In other words, wherever the Pythagorean Triplet
holds, Rational Hypotenuse Axiom is true. -Aiya-Oba (Poet/
Philosopher) .
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Jesse F. Hughes
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: Rational Hypotenuse Axiom.By Aiya-Oba Reply with quote

[quote]Hi Jesse F. Hughes:
Thanks for your interest in Rational Hypotenuse Axiom.
However, you did not observe that I specifically made sure that the
right triangle at issue here is the non-isosceles right triangle,
which mean Rational Hypotenuse Axiom, is all about the famous
Pythagorean Triplet, hence the word axiom, to indicate the already
well-known and accepted relation ( a^2 + b^2 = c^2 ) of the
Pythagorean Triple.
[/quote]
It>s amazing how many of those words above don>t seem to mean what you
think they mean.

[quote]In other words, wherever the Pythagorean Triplet
holds, Rational Hypotenuse Axiom is true. -Aiya-Oba (Poet/
Philosopher) .
[/quote]
Great. Another self-described philosopher.

If anyone asks, I>m a short order cook.

--
Jesse F. Hughes
"It>s easy folks. Just talk about my approach to your favorite
mathematician. If they can>t be interested in it, they>ve
demonstrated a lack of mathematical skill." -- James Harris
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Aiya-Oba
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Rational Hypotenuse Axiom.By Aiya-Oba Reply with quote

On Jul 23, 4:14�pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...@phiwumbda.org> wrote:
[quote]Hi Jesse F. Hughes:
Thanks for your interest in Rational Hypotenuse Axiom.
However, you did not observe that I specifically made sure that the
right triangle at issue here is the non-isosceles right triangle,
which mean Rational Hypotenuse Axiom, is all about the famous
Pythagorean Triplet, hence the word axiom, to indicate the already
well-known and accepted relation ( a^2 + �b^2 � = � c^2 ) �of �the
Pythagorean Triple.

It>s amazing how many of those words above don>t seem to mean what you
think they mean.

In other words, wherever the Pythagorean Triplet
holds, Rational Hypotenuse Axiom is true. -Aiya-Oba (Poet/
Philosopher) .

Great. �Another self-described philosopher.

If anyone asks, I>m a short order cook.

--
Jesse F. Hughes
"It>s easy folks. �Just talk about my approach to your favorite
mathematician. �If they can>t be interested in it, they>ve
demonstrated a lack of mathematical skill." -- James Harris
[/quote]

Thanks,
Jesse F.Hughes: The glory of every medium is in
its message.
A philosopher that does not seem a fool before the Wise, is otherwise.-
Aiya-Oba.
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