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t · Guest

Just keep taking drugs for all your little ills. They will send you a card
and bumper sticker after your next prescription.
<sandy.bloxs@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]

rpautrey2 wrote:

An example of an allopathy cult member:

Sounds like fun - where do I join?[/quote]

t · Guest

Wow! they sure have lowered standards for passing! Glad you could manage.
<sandy.bloxs@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]

rpautrey2 wrote:

You>re already there!

And if I wanted to quit and join your "alternative" cult, I need to go
get myself a lobotomy first, right?

Or does the fact I actually managed to pass High School science mean I
am permanently disqualified?[/quote]

Peter Bowditch · Guest

marcia <marcia12345.c@gmail.com> wrote:

[quote]On Nov 20, 7:10 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"marcia" <marcia1234...@gmail.com> wrote:

[ ]

Diversions. Off topic.

I have NO CLUE which post you>re responding to,
making yours the most superfluous post in the thread.

Off topic.
[/quote]
It>s obvious. The topic is related to hyponatremia, and therefore
linked to osmosis. This is MHA. These two statements lead to the
following:

1) The words "hyponatremia" and "osmosis" do not appear in the title,
therefore they are off-topic under the rules of JanTalk(tm).

2) The words "hyponatremia" and "osmosis" have precise scientific
meaning and therefore may be beyond the comprehension of many people
who read MHA, even those with PhDs from foreign planets.

3) This is MHA, where facts are per se and ipso facto off-topic. (I
apologise to Jan for the Popish Latin.)

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JOHN · Guest

<true.blue.bluey@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]

Ah, "Vitamin C cures...", eh? And your published data to support this
is....where exactly?

[/quote]
1,200 peer review citations collated by Dr Levy http://whale.to/a/levy4.html

chew on that asshole

MothWrangler · Guest

marcia wrote:

[quote]On Nov 21, 5:43 pm, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote:

true.blue.bl...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Ah, "Vitamin C cures...", eh? And your published data to support this
is....where exactly?

1,200 peer review citations collated by Dr Levyhttp://whale.to/a/levy4.html

chew on that asshole

Yet not a single one of those articles appears on PubMed. Why is that?
[/quote]
Well, goodness, Marcia, I guess you haven>t been reading MHA long enough
to know the answer to that.

The articles aren>t published in PubMed because there>s a world-wide
conspiracy involving science-based medicine and pharmaceutical companies
that supresses any information which would attest to the efficacy of
alternative treatments of any kind.

And, yet, despite this vast international conspiracy that keeps all of
this information super-secret, somehow, many of the pro-alt posters on
MHA seem to know a great deal about these proven alternative treatments.

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Proud member since 2007, WWWSC #1
Ann/Emma Anne #4

Blinky Bill · Guest

"JOHN" <john@nospam.com> wrote in message
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[quote]
true.blue.bluey@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ah, "Vitamin C cures...", eh? And your published data to support this
is....where exactly?

1,200 peer review citations collated by Dr Levy
http://whale.to/a/levy4.html
[/quote]
The source you cite doesn>t claim to have 1200 peer reviewed articles that
support the efficacy of Vitamin C. In fact it disputes the relevance of the
peer review process. Perhaps you should read it before you cite it.

[quote]chew on that asshole
[/quote]
I suggest you also find an asshole to chew on.

marcia · Guest

On Nov 22, 1:08 am, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
[quote]"marcia" <marcia1234...@gmail.com> wrote in message

You keep getting this Deja Vu feeling is not the subject.
[/quote]
You>re right; Flumblmblum is the subject.

D. C. Sessions · Guest

marcia wrote:

[quote]On Nov 21, 6:46 pm, MothWrangler <mothwrang...@hotmail.com> wrote:
marcia wrote:
On Nov 21, 5:43 pm, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote:

true.blue.bl...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Ah, "Vitamin C cures...", eh? And your published data to support this
is....where exactly?

1,200 peer review citations collated by Dr
Levyhttp://whale.to/a/levy4.html

chew on that asshole

Yet not a single one of those articles appears on PubMed. Why is that?

Well, goodness, Marcia, I guess you haven>t been reading MHA long enough
to know the answer to that.

The articles aren>t published in PubMed because there>s a world-wide
conspiracy involving science-based medicine and pharmaceutical companies
that supresses any information which would attest to the efficacy of
alternative treatments of any kind.

And, yet, despite this vast international conspiracy that keeps all of
this information super-secret, somehow, many of the pro-alt posters on
MHA seem to know a great deal about these proven alternative treatments.

LOL. Is this another post about osmosis?
[/quote]
That>s not a rhetorical question, is it?

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| The brighter the stupid burns, the more |
| chance that someone will see the light. |
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Jan Drew · Guest

"marcia" <marcia12345.c@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]On Nov 20, 7:40 pm, true.blue.bl...@gmail.com wrote:
Jan Drew repeated:

...

According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, about
2.5 million people die every year in the United States. Assuming a 10%
reporting rate of adverse events to drug therapy based on Q1, 2008
data, it can be concluded that about 8% of the deaths that occur every
year in America are due to complications with pharmaceutical drugs.
Assuming only a 1% reporting rate, that percentage increases to over
77%. Thus, it can be estimated that the number of people that die
every year in the U.S. from adverse drug effects is anywhere from
about 192,000 to almost 2,000,000.

OK, so that>s the Flumblmblumwoo and Bad Maths fantasy, here are the
facts:http://www.disastercenter.com/cdc/Number%20of%20Deaths%20113%20Causes...

2,600 people die every year of medical & surgical complications.
Not 2,000,000.

Imagine being told inane lies by a purveyor of Flumblmblum? Who>d ever
have predicted that?

I keep getting this Deja Vu feeling.
[/quote]
You keep getting this Deja Vu feeling is not the subject.

Mark Probert · Guest

On Nov 21, 8:06 pm, rpautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote] marcia <marcia1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
Pssst. Is it because of The Conspiracy?

I never said anything about a conspiracy.
Don>t put words in my mouth.
Vitamin C can>t be patented.
Money for indepth studies!
[/quote]
Have you ever heard of NCCAM? They are a government agency, part of
the NIH, which doles out money for studies of alternative treatments,
even those where no patent is applicable. Why are the VitCers applying
for those buks? Hmmm?

As for the lack of patentability, that has not stopped some of your
heroes from seeking to patent the use of Lupron, which they do not
hold the patent to, in the treatment of Autism. In case you do not
recall, they are the Geiers.

Mark Probert · Guest

On Nov 21, 6:55 pm, "Blinky Bill" <nos...@anytime.com> wrote:
[quote]"JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message

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true.blue.bl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ah, "Vitamin C cures...", eh? And your published data to support this
is....where exactly?

1,200 peer review citations collated by Dr Levy
http://whale.to/a/levy4.html

The source you cite doesn>t claim to have 1200 peer reviewed articles that
support the efficacy of Vitamin C. In fact it disputes the relevance of the
peer review process. Perhaps you should read it before you cite it.
[/quote]
Hey, Binky, wanna really laugh? John is the autor of the site that he
mis-cited.

On the open end stupid scale, that rates a 150.

[quote]
chew on that asshole

I suggest you also find an asshole to chew on.[/quote]

Mark Probert · Guest

On Nov 20, 4:32 pm, rpautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:

[quote]Paulie,
Nine times out of ten my responses/posts are
more important and factual so I am resuming
my top-posting. You definitely need to work
on your critical reading skills. I did not already
post this article in this thread. You and numerous
others in this group belong to the 'WackoMedicine Cult'
and probably numerous other cults. You cannot be a
'Mind Control' victim*. Your opinions and knowledge
are actually the opinions and knowledge of the
cults you belong to. Your wacko 'loon babble'
would fit in perfectly if you would post it in your
wacko groups.
[/quote]
*You have no mind to control. You are a top posting bot that parfs out
whatever is pre-recorded.

[quote]Marcia,
Nine times out of ten my responses/posts are
more important and factual so I am resuming
my top-posting. You definitely need to work
on your critical reading skills. I did not already
post this article in this thread. You and numerous
others in this group belong to the 'Allopathy Cult'
and probably numerous other cults. You are a
'Mind Control' victim. Your opinions and knowledge
are actually the opinions and knowledge of the
cults you belong to. Your allopathy 'loon babble'
would fit in perfectly if you would post it in your
cult groups.[/quote]

Mark Probert · Guest

On Nov 20, 5:51 pm, rpautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote] true.blue.bl...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I am in the unfortunate position of being unable to distinguish
between them as Homeopathy, Chiropractic, Nutritionalism, Naturopathy
all sound exactly the same to me: nonsense built on fantasy bearing no
relation to the facts of the physical world around us.

If you can>t differentiate between the above you are obviously an
idiot.
[/quote]
ZOOOOOOOOOM <== That was true blue>s point whizzing right though your
head. You did not even hear it.

[quote]Why do you continue to make a fool of yourself?
[/quote]
Ask yourself that question.

rpautrey2 · Guest

[quote]Paulie,
Nine times out of ten my responses/posts are
more important and factual so I am resuming
my top-posting. You definitely need to work
on your critical reading skills. I did not already
post this article in this thread. You and numerous
others in this group belong to the 'WackoMedicine Cult'
and probably numerous other cults. You cannot be a
'Mind Control' victim*. Your opinions and knowledge
are actually the opinions and knowledge of the
cults you belong to. Your wacko 'loon babble'
would fit in perfectly if you would post it in your
wacko groups.
[/quote]

MP,
Your editing of my post/words is a really sleazy thing to do.
But of course, you do have 'Casey Anthony Syndrome'.
I can see why you were disbarred. You and Marcia need
to grow up. You>re becoming more childish everyday.
You and Marcia are obviously a sociopaths and definitely
need some type of help.

Paul

On Nov 22, 2:54 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 20, 4:32 pm, rpautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Paulie,
Nine times out of ten my responses/posts are
more important and factual so I am resuming
my top-posting. You definitely need to work
on your critical reading skills. I did not already
post this article in this thread. You and numerous
others in this group belong to the 'WackoMedicine Cult'
and probably numerous other cults. You cannot be a
'Mind Control' victim*. Your opinions and knowledge
are actually the opinions and knowledge of the
cults you belong to. Your wacko 'loon babble'
would fit in perfectly if you would post it in your
wacko groups.

*You have no mind to control. You are a top posting bot that parfs out
whatever is pre-recorded.

Marcia,
Nine times out of ten my responses/posts are
more important and factual so I am resuming
my top-posting. You definitely need to work
on your critical reading skills. I did not already
post this article in this thread. You and numerous
others in this group belong to the 'Allopathy Cult'
and probably numerous other cults. You are a
'Mind Control' victim. Your opinions and knowledge
are actually the opinions and knowledge of the
cults you belong to. Your allopathy 'loon babble'
would fit in perfectly if you would post it in your
cult groups.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -[/quote]

JOHN · Guest

"marcia" <marcia12345.c@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]On Nov 21, 5:43 pm, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote:
true.blue.bl...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:0a41de52-65a6-46c1-921b-a6c1bb685e66@d10g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

Ah, "Vitamin C cures...", eh? And your published data to support this
is....where exactly?

1,200 peer review citations collated by Dr
Levyhttp://whale.to/a/levy4.html

chew on that asshole

Yet not a single one of those articles appears on PubMed. Why is that?
[/quote]
go figure http://whale.to/v/jom.html


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