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Mike
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 Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:16 pm Post subject: "Abraham outlines plans for hydrogen fuel, Canadian oil" |
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Abraham outlines plans for hydrogen fuel, Canadian oil
The Bush administration, which considers increasing domestic oil
production as central to a national energy policy, is focusing on a
plan to develop clean-burning hydrogen at home and encouraging Canada
to develop untapped oil reserves.
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robert luis rabello
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: "Abraham outlines plans for hydrogen fuel, Canadian oil" |
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Mike wrote:
[quote]Abraham outlines plans for hydrogen fuel, Canadian oil
The Bush administration, which considers increasing domestic oil
production as central to a national energy policy, is focusing on a
plan to develop clean-burning hydrogen at home and encouraging Canada
to develop untapped oil reserves.
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Mr. Abraham believes that hydrogen is "an energy source". That alone
should indicate his level of education in energy matters. Secondly, the
last time I checked, Canada was still a sovereign nation. Much of the
"untapped oil" in Western Canada lies beneath a lengthy system of
national and provincial parks along the Rocky Mountain cordillera. How
do you think Canadians would feel about drilling in their national parks
if people in the U.S. don>t want drilling in ANWR?
What is it with this administration???
robert luis rabello
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Cyril
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:34 am Post subject: Re: "Abraham outlines plans for hydrogen fuel, Canadian oil" |
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Retrouvons en direct robert luis rabello <nobody@home.com>, notre
envoyé(e) spécial(e) sur sci.energy.hydrogen:
[quote]
Mr. Abraham believes that hydrogen is "an energy source". That alone
should indicate his level of education in energy matters.
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I think he was referring to hydrgen-production projetcs : vision 21 -
project involving hydrogen production from coal with carbon
sequestration - and nuclear-fed thermochemical cycles.
[quote]Secondly, the
last time I checked, Canada was still a sovereign nation. Much of the
"untapped oil" in Western Canada lies beneath a lengthy system of
national and provincial parks along the Rocky Mountain cordillera. How
do you think Canadians would feel about drilling in their national parks
if people in the U.S. don>t want drilling in ANWR?
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If i were canadien Chrétien, i would keep the alberta oil sands (even
yelds outside natural parks) for later, much later. In 2020, oil will
likely be much more expensivbe than now. And Canada don>t really need
extra export earnings for now, being one of the few bid countries with
no public deficit.
In addition, countinuous progress in oil extraction technologies means
that the yelds could likely be exploited in 2020 with much less
environmental impact that now.
In France, we drilled in the Mer d>Iroise (bewteen brittany and
Cornwalls) some years ago, FORTUNATELY, no oil was found.
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zInc
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:46 am Post subject: Re: "Abraham outlines plans for hydrogen fuel, Canadian oil" |
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Remember, you ARE talking about the Unilateral States of America!
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remove the 'obvious' from my address
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"robert luis rabello" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
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: Mike wrote:
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: > Abraham outlines plans for hydrogen fuel, Canadian oil
: > The Bush administration, which considers increasing domestic oil
: > production as central to a national energy policy, is focusing on a
: > plan to develop clean-burning hydrogen at home and encouraging Canada
: > to develop untapped oil reserves.
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: Mr. Abraham believes that hydrogen is "an energy source". That alone
: should indicate his level of education in energy matters. Secondly, the
: last time I checked, Canada was still a sovereign nation. Much of the
: "untapped oil" in Western Canada lies beneath a lengthy system of
: national and provincial parks along the Rocky Mountain cordillera. How
: do you think Canadians would feel about drilling in their national parks
: if people in the U.S. don>t want drilling in ANWR?
:
: What is it with this administration???
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: robert luis rabello
: "The Edge of Justice"
: Adventure for Your Mind
: http://www.1stbooks.com/bookview/9782
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Meteorite Debris
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:43 am Post subject: Re: "Abraham outlines plans for hydrogen fuel, Canadian oil" |
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On 17 Nov 2003 06:16:24 -0800 the ET form known as
Mike<yared20817@yahoo.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
[quote]Abraham outlines plans for hydrogen fuel, Canadian oil
The Bush administration, which considers increasing domestic oil
production as central to a national energy policy, is focusing on a
plan to develop clean-burning hydrogen at home and encouraging Canada
to develop untapped oil reserves.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20031117-121118-3946r.htm
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What use will win access to Canadian natural gas (of which the US is
short of itself)? The tar sand oil which is energy expensive to
extract and to process into oil (of which the US is increasingly an
importer) or the US electricity generators, US chem industry, and US
domestic users given the ng production cliff the US is facing soon?
My guess is that competition for declining ng supplies will lead to
higher prices and will raise the cost of producing oil from tar sands,
driving down the profit margin to marginal or negative requiring
higher oil prices to break even. But increases in oil prices will lead
to substitution competition - repeating the cycle.
See <http://hubbert.mines.edu/news/Ivanhoe_02-2.pdf> by Buzz Ivanhoe.
His conclusion ==>
"Canada’s oil production from wells and tar sands should cover all of
Canada’s needs while maintaining current exports to the U.S. through
2020. Increased exports to the U.S. may depend on converting large
volumes (= 0.2 billion barrels per year) of “Bitumen”/Tar into
Synthetic Crude Oil”. Use of natural gas as the principal sources of
heat to produce Synthetic Crude Oil will decrease the amount of gas
available for export to the U.S."
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