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Quantum processes in the brain?
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dkomo
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Quantum processes in the brain? Reply with quote

These authors say nay:

Is the Brain a Quantum Computer?

"We argue that computation via quantum mechanical processes is
irrelevant to explaining how brains produce thought, contrary to the
ongoing speculations of many theorists."

http://tinyurl.com/2e7pxq

http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~celiasmi/Papers/litt%20et%20al.2006.quantum%20brain.cogsci.pdf


--dkomo@cris.com
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DK
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Quantum processes in the brain? Reply with quote

In article <ftivvh$2mho$1@darwin.ediacara.org>, dkomo <dkomo871@comcast.net> wrote:
[quote]These authors say nay:

Is the Brain a Quantum Computer?

"We argue that computation via quantum mechanical processes is
irrelevant to explaining how brains produce thought, contrary to the
ongoing speculations of many theorists."

http://tinyurl.com/2e7pxq

http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~celiasmi/Papers/litt%20et%20al.2006.quantum%20brai
n.cogsci.pdf
[/quote]
Duh!
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verulam
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Quantum processes in the brain? Reply with quote

On Apr 10, 5:27 pm, d...@no.email.thankstospam.net (DK) wrote:
[quote]In article <ftivvh$2mh...@darwin.ediacara.org>, dkomo <dkomo...@comcast.net> wrote:
These authors say nay:

Is the Brain a Quantum Computer?

"We argue that computation via quantum mechanical processes is
irrelevant to explaining how brains produce thought, contrary to the
ongoing speculations of many theorists."

http://tinyurl.com/2e7pxq

http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~celiasmi/Papers/litt%20et%20al.2006.quan...
n.cogsci.pdf

Duh!
[/quote]
DK wrote "duh!"

I can only reply that the meaning or substance of the term "duh!"
escapes me. Some elaboration of this term and the message you wish to
convey might be useful.
For my part, I agree with the authors of the cited paper. Despite the
current fashion for books entitled "Quantum Psychology" or such like,
I can see no compelling reason to invoke quantum level effects to
understand brain function.
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DK
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Quantum processes in the brain? Reply with quote

In article <fto73e$2b4q$1@darwin.ediacara.org>, verulam <johnhewitt22@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]On Apr 10, 5:27 pm, d...@no.email.thankstospam.net (DK) wrote:
In article <ftivvh$2mh...@darwin.ediacara.org>, dkomo <dkomo...@comcast.net
wrote:
These authors say nay:

Is the Brain a Quantum Computer?

"We argue that computation via quantum mechanical processes is
irrelevant to explaining how brains produce thought, contrary to the
ongoing speculations of many theorists."

http://tinyurl.com/2e7pxq

http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~celiasmi/Papers/litt%20et%20al.2006.quan...
n.cogsci.pdf

Duh!

DK wrote "duh!"

I can only reply that the meaning or substance of the term "duh!"
escapes me. Some elaboration of this term and the message you wish to
convey might be useful.
[/quote]
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/duh

DK
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r norman
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Quantum processes in the brain? Reply with quote

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:28:14 -0400 (EDT), verulam
<johnhewitt22@yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote]On Apr 10, 5:27 pm, d...@no.email.thankstospam.net (DK) wrote:
In article <ftivvh$2mh...@darwin.ediacara.org>, dkomo <dkomo...@comcast.net> wrote:
These authors say nay:

Is the Brain a Quantum Computer?

"We argue that computation via quantum mechanical processes is
irrelevant to explaining how brains produce thought, contrary to the
ongoing speculations of many theorists."

http://tinyurl.com/2e7pxq

http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~celiasmi/Papers/litt%20et%20al.2006.quan...
n.cogsci.pdf

Duh!

DK wrote "duh!"

I can only reply that the meaning or substance of the term "duh!"
escapes me. Some elaboration of this term and the message you wish to
convey might be useful.
For my part, I agree with the authors of the cited paper. Despite the
current fashion for books entitled "Quantum Psychology" or such like,
I can see no compelling reason to invoke quantum level effects to
understand brain function.
[/quote]
You just wrote "Duh!" but used a lot more words.
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Perplexed in Peoria
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Quantum processes in the brain? Reply with quote

"r norman" <r_s_norman@_comcast.net> wrote in message news:ftqu60$k79$1@darwin.ediacara.org...
[quote]On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:28:14 -0400 (EDT), verulam
johnhewitt22@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Apr 10, 5:27 pm, d...@no.email.thankstospam.net (DK) wrote:
In article <ftivvh$2mh...@darwin.ediacara.org>, dkomo <dkomo...@comcast.net> wrote:
These authors say nay:

Is the Brain a Quantum Computer?

"We argue that computation via quantum mechanical processes is
irrelevant to explaining how brains produce thought, contrary to the
ongoing speculations of many theorists."

http://tinyurl.com/2e7pxq

http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~celiasmi/Papers/litt%20et%20al.2006.quan...
n.cogsci.pdf

Duh!

DK wrote "duh!"

I can only reply that the meaning or substance of the term "duh!"
escapes me. Some elaboration of this term and the message you wish to
convey might be useful.
For my part, I agree with the authors of the cited paper. Despite the
current fashion for books entitled "Quantum Psychology" or such like,
I can see no compelling reason to invoke quantum level effects to
understand brain function.

You just wrote "Duh!" but used a lot more words.
[/quote]
Well, duh!
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Entertained by my own EIM
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Quantum processes in the brain? Reply with quote

Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
[quote]"r norman" <r_s_norman@_comcast.net> wrote in message news:ftqu60$k79$1@darwin.ediacara.org...
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:28:14 -0400 (EDT), verulam
johnhewitt22@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Apr 10, 5:27 pm, d...@no.email.thankstospam.net (DK) wrote:
In article <ftivvh$2mh...@darwin.ediacara.org>, dkomo <dkomo...@comcast.net> wrote:
These authors say nay:
Is the Brain a Quantum Computer?
"We argue that computation via quantum mechanical processes is
irrelevant to explaining how brains produce thought, contrary to the
ongoing speculations of many theorists."
http://tinyurl.com/2e7pxq
http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~celiasmi/Papers/litt%20et%20al.2006.quan...
n.cogsci.pdf
Duh!
DK wrote "duh!"

I can only reply that the meaning or substance of the term "duh!"
escapes me. Some elaboration of this term and the message you wish to
convey might be useful.
For my part, I agree with the authors of the cited paper. Despite the
current fashion for books entitled "Quantum Psychology" or such like,
I can see no compelling reason to invoke quantum level effects to
understand brain function.
You just wrote "Duh!" but used a lot more words.

Well, duh!

I>ll make this the following comment even though all these duhs would[/quote]
have detonated debunkingly more aptly in bionet.neuroscience:

If I decided to declared that the evolution and existence of our
diversely manifest psychologies (including ditto for "consciousness") is
inseparable from and most fundamentally dependent on the existence of
the dynamics of spacetime (which is, demonstrably, deep down "quantum in
character"), that would deserve a duh, too.

However, at least it would be an EPT (i.e. effectively philosophy
terminating) declaration not just on its own but especially so IF
accEPTed and "taken in" in context of (or as a part of) a disillusion
promoting enlightenment promoting type of explanatory platform
terminology. %}
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A. Tellez
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Quantum processes in the brain? Reply with quote

dkomo wrote:
[quote]These authors say nay:

Is the Brain a Quantum Computer?

"We argue that computation via quantum mechanical processes is
irrelevant to explaining how brains produce thought, contrary to the
ongoing speculations of many theorists."

http://tinyurl.com/2e7pxq

http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~celiasmi/Papers/litt%20et%20al.2006.quantum%20brain.cogsci.pdf


--dkomo@cris.com


[/quote]
I have a few articles detailing the effects of anesthetics on neuron
microtubules as well as rather convincing mathematics deducing the
possibility of quantum coherence within said microtubules. If any one
would like the articles, please email me.
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DK
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Quantum processes in the brain? Reply with quote

In article <funrku$2cn1$1@darwin.ediacara.org>, "A. Tellez" <ATellezRodriguez@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]dkomo wrote:
These authors say nay:

Is the Brain a Quantum Computer?

"We argue that computation via quantum mechanical processes is
irrelevant to explaining how brains produce thought, contrary to the
ongoing speculations of many theorists."

http://tinyurl.com/2e7pxq


http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~celiasmi/Papers/litt%20et%20al.2006.quantum%20bra
in.cogsci.pdf


--dkomo@cris.com



I have a few articles detailing the effects of anesthetics on neuron
microtubules as well as rather convincing mathematics deducing the
possibility of quantum coherence within said microtubules. If any one
would like the articles, please email me.
[/quote]
Feel free to post them. They would be easy to take apart, for the
errors are almost certainly in assumptions that precede the said
math.

DK
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