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One generation of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acid deprivation increases
depression and aggression test scores in rats
James C. DeMar, Jr.*, Kiazong Ma*, Jane M. Bell*, Miki Igarashi*,
Deanna Greenstein and Stanley I. Rapoport1,*

* Brain Physiology and Metabolism Section, National Institute on
Aging, and Child Psychiatry Branch, National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD, 20892
National Institute of Mental Health, National Institutes of Health,
Bethesda, MD 20892

Published, JLR Papers in Press, October 6, 2005.

1 To whom correspondence should be addressed. e-mail:
sir@helix.nih.gov

Male rat pups at weaning (21 days of age) were subjected to a diet
deficient or adequate in n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (n-3 PUFAs)
for 15 weeks.
Performance on tests of locomotor activity, depression, and aggression
was measured in that order during the ensuing 3 weeks, after which
brain lipid composition was determined.
In the n-3 PUFA-deprived rats, compared with n-3 PUFA-adequate rats,
docosahexaenoic acid (22:6n-3) in brain phospholipid was reduced by
36% and docosapentaenoic acid (22:5n-6) was elevated by 90%, whereas
brain phospholipid concentrations were unchanged.
N-3 PUFA-deprived rats had a significantly increased (P = 0.03) score
on the Porsolt forced-swim test for depression, and increased blocking
time (P = 0.03) and blocking number (P = 0.04) scores (uncorrected for
multiple comparisons) on the isolation-induced resident-intruder test
for aggression.
Large effect sizes (d > 0.8) were found on the depression score and on
the blocking time score of the aggression test.
Scores on the open-field test for locomotor activity did not differ
significantly between groups, and had only small to medium effect
sizes.
This single-generational n-3 PUFA-deprived rat model, which
demonstrated significant changes in brain lipid composition and in
test scores for depression and aggression, may be useful for
elucidating the contribution of disturbed brain PUFA metabolism to
human depression, aggression, and bipolar disorder.

Supplementary key words docosahexaenoic • locomotor • rat • activity •
behavior • diet

----------------------

n-3 Polyunsaturated fatty acid supplementation reverses stress-induced
modifications on brain monoamine levels in mice.
* Unité de Nutrition et Régulation Lipidique des Fonctions Cérébrales,
Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, domaine de Vilvert,
78352 Jouy-en-Josas cedex, France

The aim of this study was to examine the effects of supplementation
with n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) on stress responses in
mice subjected to an unpredictable chronic mild stress (UCMS)
procedure.
Stress-induced modifications in coat and aggressiveness were
evaluated, and phospholipid PUFA profiles and monoamine levels were
analyzed in the frontal cortex, hippocampus, and striatum. The results
showed that repeated exposure to mild stressors induced degradation in
the physical state of the coat, lowered body weight gain, and
increased aggressiveness, without any effect of n-3 PUFA
supplementation.
The UCMS induced a significant decrease in the levels of
norepinephrine in the frontal cortex and striatum, and a
nonsignificant decrease in the hippocampus.
The tissue levels of serotonin (5-HT) were 40% to 65% decreased in the
three brain regions studied.
Interestingly, the n-3 PUFA supplementation reversed this stress-
induced reduction in 5-HT levels.
These findings showed that supplementation in n-3 long-chain PUFAs
might reverse certain effects of UCMS in cerebral structures involved
in stress-related behaviors.

Supplementary key words chronic mild stress • omega 3 •
docosahexaenoic acid
S. Vancassel*, S. Leman,, L. Hanonick**, S. Denis*, J. Roger,, M.
Nollet,, S. Bodard,, I. Kousignian,, C. Belzung, and S. Chalon1,,

* Unité de Nutrition et Régulation Lipidique des Fonctions Cérébrales,
Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, domaine de Vilvert,
78352 Jouy-en-Josas cedex, France
EA 3248 Psychobiologie des Emotions, Faculté des Sciences &
Techniques, Université François Rabelais, Tours, F-37000, France
Institut Fédératif de Recherche 135, Tours, F-37000, France
** Endocrinologie et Maladies Métaboliques, CHU Henri Mondor, Créteil,
F-94000, France
Institut National de la Santé et de la Recherche Médicale, U619,
Tours, F-37000, France

Published, JLR Papers in Press, November 8, 2007.

1 To whom correspondence should be addressed. e-mail:
sylvie.chalon@univ-tours.fr

Originally published In Press as doi:10.1194/jlr.M700328-JLR200 on
November 8, 2007

Journal of Lipid Research, Vol. 49, 340-348, February 2008
Copyright © 2008 by American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular
Biology
-------------------------

Prisoners given supplements in new trial
By Shane Starling

09-Sep-2008 - An Oxford University study being conducted in three UK
prisons is investigating the link between nutrition and behaviour.

It follows a 2002 UK trial that found consumption of food supplements
could reduce anti-social behaviour in teenagers as well as 30 years
inquiry into the subject by one of the lead researchers, professor
Alexander Schauss, PhD, FACN, senior director of natural and medicinal
products research at natural products consultancy, AIBMR Life
Sciences.

Schauss noted more than 20 controlled clinical trials carried out in
state and county juvenile and adult institutions confirmed that diet
could be used to reduce the incidence of antisocial behavior by up to
60 percent.

The new study, one of the largest ever conducted, is being funded by a
$2.6m (€1.83m) grant from the Wellcome Trust, the UK>s largest medical
research charity.

Behaviour modification

The study aims to find out if nutrient levels required for optimum
brain function are also responsible for behaviour modification.

Similar studies carried out in the US and Europe have determined the
link between nutrition and behaviour.

"Seeing the level of research on diet and crime reach this level of
financial support by the medical community is heartening,” said
Schauss.

“But it took over 30 years, even though the evidence was there back in
the 1970s."

The director of the Wellcome Trust stated: "If this study shows
nutritional supplementation affects behaviour, it could have profound
significance for nutrition guidelines not only within the criminal
justice system, but in the wider community, in schools, for example.
We are all used to nutritional guidelines for our physical health,
but this study could lead to revisions taking into account our mental
health, as well."

The researchers will investigate the affect of different food
supplements on behaviour compared to groups on placebo.

"It is my hope that we see better nutrition education and start with
pre-conceptual care programs that focus on nutrition and other
lifestyle factors and behaviors that can decrease the risk of
antisocial behavior," Schauss said.

Schauss is the author of a book called Diet, Crime and Delinquency,
written in 1978 and which posited the idea that diet and behaviour
were closely linked.

The study is being conducted in conjunction with the Institute of
Psychiatry at Imperial College, University of London, the University
of Surrey, the University of Liverpool and the Medical Research
Council on Human Nutrition Research.

The 2002 study gave essential fatty acid supplements to 18-21-year-old
prisoners and found antisocial behaviour was reduced by 37 per cent
compared to placebo.

---------------------------------

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---------------------------------

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[quote]ironjustice wrote:

| One generation of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acid deprivation increases
| depression and aggression test scores in rats
| James C. DeMar, Jr.*, Kiazong Ma*, Jane M. Bell*, Miki Igarashi*,
| Deanna Greenstein and Stanley I. Rapoport1,*
|
| * Brain Physiology and Metabolism Section, National Institute on
| Aging, and Child Psychiatry Branch, National Institutes of Health
| Bethesda, MD, 20892
| National Institute of Mental Health, National Institutes of Health,
| Bethesda, MD 20892
|
| Published, JLR Papers in Press, October 6, 2005.
|
| 1 To whom correspondence should be addressed. e-mail:
| s...@helix.nih.gov
|
| Male rat pups at weaning (21 days of age) were subjected to a diet
| deficient or adequate in n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (n-3 PUFAs)
| for 15 weeks.
| Performance on tests of locomotor activity, depression, and aggression
| was measured in that order during the ensuing 3 weeks, after which
| brain lipid composition was determined.
| In the n-3 PUFA-deprived rats, compared with n-3 PUFA-adequate rats,
| docosahexaenoic acid (22:6n-3) in brain phospholipid was reduced by
| 36% and docosapentaenoic acid (22:5n-6) was elevated by 90%, whereas
| brain phospholipid concentrations were unchanged.
| N-3 PUFA-deprived rats had a significantly increased (P = 0.03) score
| on the Porsolt forced-swim test for depression, and increased blocking
| time (P = 0.03) and blocking number (P = 0.04) scores (uncorrected for
| multiple comparisons) on the isolation-induced resident-intruder test
| for aggression.
| Large effect sizes (d > 0.8) were found on the depression score and on
| the blocking time score of the aggression test.
| Scores on the open-field test for locomotor activity did not differ
| significantly between groups, and had only small to medium effect
| sizes.
| This single-generational n-3 PUFA-deprived rat model, which
| demonstrated significant changes in brain lipid composition and in
| test scores for depression and aggression, may be useful for
| elucidating the contribution of disturbed brain PUFA metabolism to
| human depression, aggression, and bipolar disorder.
|
| Supplementary key words docosahexaenoic • locomotor • rat • activity •
| behavior • diet
|
| ----------------------
|
| n-3 Polyunsaturated fatty acid supplementation reverses stress-induced
| modifications on brain monoamine levels in mice.
| * Unité de Nutrition et Régulation Lipidique des Fonctions Cérébrales,
| Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, domaine de Vilvert,
| 78352 Jouy-en-Josas cedex, France
|
| The aim of this study was to examine the effects of supplementation
| with n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) on stress responses in
| mice subjected to an unpredictable chronic mild stress (UCMS)
| procedure.
| Stress-induced modifications in coat and aggressiveness were
| evaluated, and phospholipid PUFA profiles and monoamine levels were
| analyzed in the frontal cortex, hippocampus, and striatum. The results
| showed that repeated exposure to mild stressors induced degradation in
| the physical state of the coat, lowered body weight gain, and
| increased aggressiveness, without any effect of n-3 PUFA
| supplementation.
| The UCMS induced a significant decrease in the levels of
| norepinephrine in the frontal cortex and striatum, and a
| nonsignificant decrease in the hippocampus.
| The tissue levels of serotonin (5-HT) were 40% to 65% decreased in the
| three brain regions studied.
| Interestingly, the n-3 PUFA supplementation reversed this stress-
| induced reduction in 5-HT levels.
| These findings showed that supplementation in n-3 long-chain PUFAs
| might reverse certain effects of UCMS in cerebral structures involved
| in stress-related behaviors.
|
| Supplementary key words chronic mild stress • omega 3 •
| docosahexaenoic acid
| S. Vancassel*, S. Leman,, L. Hanonick**, S. Denis*, J. Roger,, M.
| Nollet,, S. Bodard,, I. Kousignian,, C. Belzung, and S. Chalon1,,
|
| * Unité de Nutrition et Régulation Lipidique des Fonctions Cérébrales,
| Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, domaine de Vilvert,
| 78352 Jouy-en-Josas cedex, France
| EA 3248 Psychobiologie des Emotions, Faculté des Sciences &
| Techniques, Université François Rabelais, Tours, F-37000, France
| Institut Fédératif de Recherche 135, Tours, F-37000, France
| ** Endocrinologie et Maladies Métaboliques, CHU Henri Mondor, Créteil,
| F-94000, France
| Institut National de la Santé et de la Recherche Médicale, U619,
| Tours, F-37000, France
|
| Published, JLR Papers in Press, November 8, 2007.
|
|
| 1 To whom correspondence should be addressed. e-mail:
| sylvie.cha...@univ-tours.fr
|
| Originally published In Press as doi:10.1194/jlr.M700328-JLR200 on
| November 8, 2007
|
| Journal of Lipid Research, Vol. 49, 340-348, February 2008
| Copyright © 2008 by American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular
| Biology
| -------------------------
|
| Prisoners given supplements in new trial
| By Shane Starling
|
| 09-Sep-2008 - An Oxford University study being conducted in three UK
| prisons is investigating the link between nutrition and behaviour.
|
| It follows a 2002 UK trial that found consumption of food supplements
| could reduce anti-social behaviour in teenagers as well as 30 years
| inquiry into the subject by one of the lead researchers, professor
| Alexander Schauss, PhD, FACN, senior director of natural and medicinal
| products research at natural products consultancy, AIBMR Life
| Sciences.
|
| Schauss noted more than 20 controlled clinical trials carried out in
| state and county juvenile and adult institutions confirmed that diet
| could be used to reduce the incidence of antisocial behavior by up to
| 60 percent.
|
| The new study, one of the largest ever conducted, is being funded by a
| $2.6m (€1.83m) grant from the Wellcome Trust, the UK>s largest medical
| research charity.
|
| Behaviour modification
|
| The study aims to find out if nutrient levels required for optimum
| brain function are also responsible for behaviour modification.
|
| Similar studies carried out in the US and Europe have determined the
| link between nutrition and behaviour.
|
| "Seeing the level of research on diet and crime reach this level of
| financial support by the medical community is heartening,” said
| Schauss.
|
|
| “But it took over 30 years, even though the evidence was there back in
| the 1970s."
|
| The director of the Wellcome Trust stated: "If this study shows
| nutritional supplementation affects behaviour, it could have profound
| significance for nutrition guidelines not only within the criminal
| justice system, but in the wider community, in schools, for example.
| We are all used to nutritional guidelines for our physical health,
| but this study could lead to revisions taking into account our mental
| health, as well."
|
| The researchers will investigate the affect of different food
| supplements on behaviour compared to groups on placebo.
|
| "It is my hope that we see better nutrition education and start with
| pre-conceptual care programs that focus on nutrition and other
| lifestyle factors and behaviors that can decrease the risk of
| antisocial behavior," Schauss said.
|
| Schauss is the author of a book called Diet, Crime and Delinquency,
| written in 1978 and which posited the idea that diet and behaviour
| were closely linked.
|
| The study is being conducted in conjunction with the Institute of
| Psychiatry at Imperial College, University of London, the University
| of Surrey, the University of Liverpool and the Medical Research
| Council on Human Nutrition Research.
|
|
| The 2002 study gave essential fatty acid supplements to 18-21-year-old
| prisoners and found antisocial behaviour was reduced by 37 per cent
| compared to placebo.
|
| ---------------------------------
|
|
| Who loves ya.
| Tom
|
|
| Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
|http://tinyurl.com/634q5a
|
|
| Man Is A Herbivore!
|http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
|
|
| DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
|http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk[/quote]

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On Nov 17, 8:01 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Oil yourself up <<

"This study shows that topically applied oil can be absorbed in
neonates and is probably available for nutritional purposes."

"Fatty acid profiles showed significant rise in EFAs (linolenic acid
and arachidonic acid) in safflower oil group and saturated fats in
coconut
oil group"

http://www.indianpediatrics.net/oct2005/oct-998-1005.htm

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ironjustice wrote:
| One generation of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acid deprivation increases
| depression and aggression test scores in rats
| James C. DeMar, Jr.*, Kiazong Ma*, Jane M. Bell*, Miki Igarashi*,
| Deanna Greenstein and Stanley I. Rapoport1,*
|
| * Brain Physiology and Metabolism Section, National Institute on
| Aging, and Child Psychiatry Branch, National Institutes of Health
| Bethesda, MD, 20892
| National Institute of Mental Health, National Institutes of Health,
| Bethesda, MD 20892
|
| Published, JLR Papers in Press, October 6, 2005.
|
| 1 To whom correspondence should be addressed. e-mail:
| sir@helix.nih.gov
|
| Male rat pups at weaning (21 days of age) were subjected to a diet
| deficient or adequate in n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (n-3 PUFAs)
| for 15 weeks.
| Performance on tests of locomotor activity, depression, and aggression
| was measured in that order during the ensuing 3 weeks, after which
| brain lipid composition was determined.
| In the n-3 PUFA-deprived rats, compared with n-3 PUFA-adequate rats,
| docosahexaenoic acid (22:6n-3) in brain phospholipid was reduced by
| 36% and docosapentaenoic acid (22:5n-6) was elevated by 90%, whereas
| brain phospholipid concentrations were unchanged.
| N-3 PUFA-deprived rats had a significantly increased (P = 0.03) score
| on the Porsolt forced-swim test for depression, and increased blocking
| time (P = 0.03) and blocking number (P = 0.04) scores (uncorrected for
| multiple comparisons) on the isolation-induced resident-intruder test
| for aggression.
| Large effect sizes (d > 0.8) were found on the depression score and on
| the blocking time score of the aggression test.
| Scores on the open-field test for locomotor activity did not differ
| significantly between groups, and had only small to medium effect
| sizes.
| This single-generational n-3 PUFA-deprived rat model, which
| demonstrated significant changes in brain lipid composition and in
| test scores for depression and aggression, may be useful for
| elucidating the contribution of disturbed brain PUFA metabolism to
| human depression, aggression, and bipolar disorder.
|
| Supplementary key words docosahexaenoic • locomotor • rat • activity •
| behavior • diet
|
| ----------------------
|
| n-3 Polyunsaturated fatty acid supplementation reverses stress-induced
| modifications on brain monoamine levels in mice.
| * Unité de Nutrition et Régulation Lipidique des Fonctions Cérébrales,
| Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, domaine de Vilvert,
| 78352 Jouy-en-Josas cedex, France
|
| The aim of this study was to examine the effects of supplementation
| with n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) on stress responses in
| mice subjected to an unpredictable chronic mild stress (UCMS)
| procedure.
| Stress-induced modifications in coat and aggressiveness were
| evaluated, and phospholipid PUFA profiles and monoamine levels were
| analyzed in the frontal cortex, hippocampus, and striatum. The results
| showed that repeated exposure to mild stressors induced degradation in
| the physical state of the coat, lowered body weight gain, and
| increased aggressiveness, without any effect of n-3 PUFA
| supplementation.
| The UCMS induced a significant decrease in the levels of
| norepinephrine in the frontal cortex and striatum, and a
| nonsignificant decrease in the hippocampus.
| The tissue levels of serotonin (5-HT) were 40% to 65% decreased in the
| three brain regions studied.
| Interestingly, the n-3 PUFA supplementation reversed this stress-
| induced reduction in 5-HT levels.
| These findings showed that supplementation in n-3 long-chain PUFAs
| might reverse certain effects of UCMS in cerebral structures involved
| in stress-related behaviors.
|
| Supplementary key words chronic mild stress • omega 3 •
| docosahexaenoic acid
| S. Vancassel*, S. Leman,, L. Hanonick**, S. Denis*, J. Roger,, M.
| Nollet,, S. Bodard,, I. Kousignian,, C. Belzung, and S. Chalon1,,
|
| * Unité de Nutrition et Régulation Lipidique des Fonctions Cérébrales,
| Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, domaine de Vilvert,
| 78352 Jouy-en-Josas cedex, France
| EA 3248 Psychobiologie des Emotions, Faculté des Sciences &
| Techniques, Université François Rabelais, Tours, F-37000, France
| Institut Fédératif de Recherche 135, Tours, F-37000, France
| ** Endocrinologie et Maladies Métaboliques, CHU Henri Mondor, Créteil,
| F-94000, France
| Institut National de la Santé et de la Recherche Médicale, U619,
| Tours, F-37000, France
|
| Published, JLR Papers in Press, November 8, 2007.
|
|
| 1 To whom correspondence should be addressed. e-mail:
| sylvie.chalon@univ-tours.fr
|
| Originally published In Press as doi:10.1194/jlr.M700328-JLR200 on
| November 8, 2007
|
| Journal of Lipid Research, Vol. 49, 340-348, February 2008
| Copyright © 2008 by American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular
| Biology
| -------------------------
|
| Prisoners given supplements in new trial
| By Shane Starling
|
| 09-Sep-2008 - An Oxford University study being conducted in three UK
| prisons is investigating the link between nutrition and behaviour.
|
| It follows a 2002 UK trial that found consumption of food supplements
| could reduce anti-social behaviour in teenagers as well as 30 years
| inquiry into the subject by one of the lead researchers, professor
| Alexander Schauss, PhD, FACN, senior director of natural and medicinal
| products research at natural products consultancy, AIBMR Life
| Sciences.
|
| Schauss noted more than 20 controlled clinical trials carried out in
| state and county juvenile and adult institutions confirmed that diet
| could be used to reduce the incidence of antisocial behavior by up to
| 60 percent.
|
| The new study, one of the largest ever conducted, is being funded by a
| $2.6m (€1.83m) grant from the Wellcome Trust, the UK>s largest medical
| research charity.
|
| Behaviour modification
|
| The study aims to find out if nutrient levels required for optimum
| brain function are also responsible for behaviour modification.
|
| Similar studies carried out in the US and Europe have determined the
| link between nutrition and behaviour.
|
| "Seeing the level of research on diet and crime reach this level of
| financial support by the medical community is heartening,” said
| Schauss.
|
|
| “But it took over 30 years, even though the evidence was there back in
| the 1970s."
|
| The director of the Wellcome Trust stated: "If this study shows
| nutritional supplementation affects behaviour, it could have profound
| significance for nutrition guidelines not only within the criminal
| justice system, but in the wider community, in schools, for example.
| We are all used to nutritional guidelines for our physical health,
| but this study could lead to revisions taking into account our mental
| health, as well."
|
| The researchers will investigate the affect of different food
| supplements on behaviour compared to groups on placebo.
|
| "It is my hope that we see better nutrition education and start with
| pre-conceptual care programs that focus on nutrition and other
| lifestyle factors and behaviors that can decrease the risk of
| antisocial behavior," Schauss said.
|
| Schauss is the author of a book called Diet, Crime and Delinquency,
| written in 1978 and which posited the idea that diet and behaviour
| were closely linked.
|
| The study is being conducted in conjunction with the Institute of
| Psychiatry at Imperial College, University of London, the University
| of Surrey, the University of Liverpool and the Medical Research
| Council on Human Nutrition Research.
|
|
| The 2002 study gave essential fatty acid supplements to 18-21-year-old
| prisoners and found antisocial behaviour was reduced by 37 per cent
| compared to placebo.
|
| ---------------------------------
|
|
| Who loves ya.
| Tom
|
|
| Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
| http://tinyurl.com/634q5a
|
|
| Man Is A Herbivore!
| http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
|
|
| DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
| http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

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i can>t find it amongst all the other fence paint

ironjustice wrote:
| On Nov 17, 7:46 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
| i know , but i still puked so that>s no help <<
|
| http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.nutrition/msg/606aa00a00e35e33
|
| Au Natural
|
| Oil yourself up ..
| ---------------------------------
|
|
| Phosphatidyl choline (PC) penetrates effectively throughout the
| epidermis
|
|
| PMID: 10759821, UI: 20223832
| ---------------------------------
|
|
| Who loves ya.
| Tom
|
|
| Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
| http://tinyurl.com/634q5a
|
|
| Man Is A Herbivore!
| http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
|
|
| DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
| http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
|
|| ironjustice wrote:
||
||| One generation of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acid deprivation
||| increases depression and aggression test scores in rats
||| James C. DeMar, Jr.*, Kiazong Ma*, Jane M. Bell*, Miki Igarashi*,
||| Deanna Greenstein and Stanley I. Rapoport1,*
|||
||| * Brain Physiology and Metabolism Section, National Institute on
||| Aging, and Child Psychiatry Branch, National Institutes of Health
||| Bethesda, MD, 20892
||| National Institute of Mental Health, National Institutes of Health,
||| Bethesda, MD 20892
|||
||| Published, JLR Papers in Press, October 6, 2005.
|||
||| 1 To whom correspondence should be addressed. e-mail:
||| s...@helix.nih.gov
|||
||| Male rat pups at weaning (21 days of age) were subjected to a diet
||| deficient or adequate in n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (n-3 PUFAs)
||| for 15 weeks.
||| Performance on tests of locomotor activity, depression, and
||| aggression was measured in that order during the ensuing 3 weeks,
||| after which brain lipid composition was determined.
||| In the n-3 PUFA-deprived rats, compared with n-3 PUFA-adequate rats,
||| docosahexaenoic acid (22:6n-3) in brain phospholipid was reduced by
||| 36% and docosapentaenoic acid (22:5n-6) was elevated by 90%, whereas
||| brain phospholipid concentrations were unchanged.
||| N-3 PUFA-deprived rats had a significantly increased (P = 0.03)
||| score on the Porsolt forced-swim test for depression, and increased
||| blocking time (P = 0.03) and blocking number (P = 0.04) scores
||| (uncorrected for multiple comparisons) on the isolation-induced
||| resident-intruder test for aggression.
||| Large effect sizes (d > 0.8) were found on the depression score and
||| on the blocking time score of the aggression test.
||| Scores on the open-field test for locomotor activity did not differ
||| significantly between groups, and had only small to medium effect
||| sizes.
||| This single-generational n-3 PUFA-deprived rat model, which
||| demonstrated significant changes in brain lipid composition and in
||| test scores for depression and aggression, may be useful for
||| elucidating the contribution of disturbed brain PUFA metabolism to
||| human depression, aggression, and bipolar disorder.
|||
||| Supplementary key words docosahexaenoic • locomotor • rat •
||| activity • behavior • diet
|||
||| ----------------------
|||
||| n-3 Polyunsaturated fatty acid supplementation reverses
||| stress-induced modifications on brain monoamine levels in mice.
||| * Unité de Nutrition et Régulation Lipidique des Fonctions
||| Cérébrales, Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, domaine
||| de Vilvert, 78352 Jouy-en-Josas cedex, France
|||
||| The aim of this study was to examine the effects of supplementation
||| with n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) on stress responses in
||| mice subjected to an unpredictable chronic mild stress (UCMS)
||| procedure.
||| Stress-induced modifications in coat and aggressiveness were
||| evaluated, and phospholipid PUFA profiles and monoamine levels were
||| analyzed in the frontal cortex, hippocampus, and striatum. The
||| results showed that repeated exposure to mild stressors induced
||| degradation in the physical state of the coat, lowered body weight
||| gain, and increased aggressiveness, without any effect of n-3 PUFA
||| supplementation.
||| The UCMS induced a significant decrease in the levels of
||| norepinephrine in the frontal cortex and striatum, and a
||| nonsignificant decrease in the hippocampus.
||| The tissue levels of serotonin (5-HT) were 40% to 65% decreased in
||| the three brain regions studied.
||| Interestingly, the n-3 PUFA supplementation reversed this stress-
||| induced reduction in 5-HT levels.
||| These findings showed that supplementation in n-3 long-chain PUFAs
||| might reverse certain effects of UCMS in cerebral structures
||| involved in stress-related behaviors.
|||
||| Supplementary key words chronic mild stress • omega 3 •
||| docosahexaenoic acid
||| S. Vancassel*, S. Leman,, L. Hanonick**, S. Denis*, J. Roger,, M.
||| Nollet,, S. Bodard,, I. Kousignian,, C. Belzung, and S. Chalon1,,
|||
||| * Unité de Nutrition et Régulation Lipidique des Fonctions
||| Cérébrales, Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, domaine
||| de Vilvert, 78352 Jouy-en-Josas cedex, France
||| EA 3248 Psychobiologie des Emotions, Faculté des Sciences &
||| Techniques, Université François Rabelais, Tours, F-37000, France
||| Institut Fédératif de Recherche 135, Tours, F-37000, France
||| ** Endocrinologie et Maladies Métaboliques, CHU Henri Mondor,
||| Créteil, F-94000, France
||| Institut National de la Santé et de la Recherche Médicale, U619,
||| Tours, F-37000, France
|||
||| Published, JLR Papers in Press, November 8, 2007.
|||
|||
||| 1 To whom correspondence should be addressed. e-mail:
||| sylvie.cha...@univ-tours.fr
|||
||| Originally published In Press as doi:10.1194/jlr.M700328-JLR200 on
||| November 8, 2007
|||
||| Journal of Lipid Research, Vol. 49, 340-348, February 2008
||| Copyright © 2008 by American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular
||| Biology
||| -------------------------
|||
||| Prisoners given supplements in new trial
||| By Shane Starling
|||
||| 09-Sep-2008 - An Oxford University study being conducted in three UK
||| prisons is investigating the link between nutrition and behaviour.
|||
||| It follows a 2002 UK trial that found consumption of food
||| supplements could reduce anti-social behaviour in teenagers as well
||| as 30 years inquiry into the subject by one of the lead
||| researchers, professor Alexander Schauss, PhD, FACN, senior
||| director of natural and medicinal products research at natural
||| products consultancy, AIBMR Life Sciences.
|||
||| Schauss noted more than 20 controlled clinical trials carried out in
||| state and county juvenile and adult institutions confirmed that diet
||| could be used to reduce the incidence of antisocial behavior by up
||| to 60 percent.
|||
||| The new study, one of the largest ever conducted, is being funded
||| by a $2.6m (€1.83m) grant from the Wellcome Trust, the UK>s largest
||| medical research charity.
|||
||| Behaviour modification
|||
||| The study aims to find out if nutrient levels required for optimum
||| brain function are also responsible for behaviour modification.
|||
||| Similar studies carried out in the US and Europe have determined the
||| link between nutrition and behaviour.
|||
||| "Seeing the level of research on diet and crime reach this level of
||| financial support by the medical community is heartening,” said
||| Schauss.
|||
|||
||| “But it took over 30 years, even though the evidence was there back
||| in the 1970s."
|||
||| The director of the Wellcome Trust stated: "If this study shows
||| nutritional supplementation affects behaviour, it could have
||| profound significance for nutrition guidelines not only within the
||| criminal justice system, but in the wider community, in schools,
||| for example. We are all used to nutritional guidelines for our
||| physical health, but this study could lead to revisions taking into
||| account our mental health, as well."
|||
||| The researchers will investigate the affect of different food
||| supplements on behaviour compared to groups on placebo.
|||
||| "It is my hope that we see better nutrition education and start with
||| pre-conceptual care programs that focus on nutrition and other
||| lifestyle factors and behaviors that can decrease the risk of
||| antisocial behavior," Schauss said.
|||
||| Schauss is the author of a book called Diet, Crime and Delinquency,
||| written in 1978 and which posited the idea that diet and behaviour
||| were closely linked.
|||
||| The study is being conducted in conjunction with the Institute of
||| Psychiatry at Imperial College, University of London, the University
||| of Surrey, the University of Liverpool and the Medical Research
||| Council on Human Nutrition Research.
|||
|||
||| The 2002 study gave essential fatty acid supplements to
||| 18-21-year-old prisoners and found antisocial behaviour was reduced
||| by 37 per cent compared to placebo.
|||
||| ---------------------------------
|||
|||
||| Who loves ya.
||| Tom
|||
|||
||| Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
||| http://tinyurl.com/634q5a
|||
|||
||| Man Is A Herbivore!
||| http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
|||
|||
||| DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
||| http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

ironjustice · Guest

On Nov 18, 7:27 am, anonym...@nowhere.you.know wrote: snip <<

Stay off my threads .. update your blogs .. they need .. updating ..

Maybe some .. effort .. would be novel .. eh .. dckhd ..

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Tom

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Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

ironjustice · Guest

On Nov 18, 8:31 am, CyberDroog <CyberDr...@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats
only
vegetables. Romans 14:2
Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of
conscience, for, "The earth is the Lord>s, and everything in it."
1 Corinthians 10:25-26
We should be taught not to wait for inspiration to start a thing.
Action always generates inspiration. Inspiration seldom generates
action.
Frank Tibolt <<

Sounds kinda heavy .. but I have no clue what it .. means ..

Decipher it for me will ya ..

I am not sure how the mind of truly insane people thinks ..

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Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

ironjustice@aol.com · Guest

On Nov 18, 8:45 am, CyberDroog <CyberDr...@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
I see, you are one of those Christians who don>t believe in the
bible. <<

I use the Bible ..
It is a matter of whether you take the Bible at face value.
Each and every word MEANING exactly what it says.

An example of this nontraditional Christianity is a book "The Hidden
Mystery Of The Bible" written by Jack Ensign Addington.

In it is an explanation of the 'hidden meaning' / mystic meaning of
the Bible.

Sooo .. it is a matter of TYPE of Christianity we are talking about.
Yhere are a couple .. that I know of .. mystic / Kabbalah and
traditional ..

Peace and love / mystic .. orrrr .. traditional / murder and
death ..

WHICH one sounds more .. logical ..

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/634q5a

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

Who loves ya.
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Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/634q5a

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[quote]
--
ARENA, n. In politics, an imaginary rat-pit in which the statesman
wrestles with his record.

- Ambrose Bierce- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -[/quote]

ironjustice@aol.com · Guest

On Nov 17, 7:46 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
One generation of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acid deprivation
increases
depression and aggression test scores in rats <<

"5 weeks of a PUFA blend containing 70% alpha-linolenic acid"

PUFA induce antidepressant-like effects in parallel to structural and
molecular changes in the hippocampus.
Venna VR, Deplanque D, Allet C, Belarbi K, Hamdane M, Bordet R
Psychoneuroendocrinology 2008 Oct 8.

Epidemiological data suggest that omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids
(PUFA) consumption may be inversely correlated to the prevalence and
severity of depression but little is known about the underlying
mechanisms.
In this study, we experimentally investigated whether a chronic
supplementation with PUFA may induce antidepressant-like effects in
mice in parallel to brain structural and molecular changes.
Six weeks feeding with a PUFA-enriched diet induced behavioral
changes
in the Forced Swim Test (FST), the Tail Suspension Test and the
Novelty-Suppressed Feeding Test.
Moreover, more than 5 weeks supplementation with a PUFA blend
containing 70% alpha-linolenic acid induced antidepressant-like
effects in the FST with an increase in both swimming and climbing
behaviors.
The combination of a shorter duration of PUFA supplementation with a
low dose of imipramine also induced an additive effect in the FST.
Finally, PUFA supplementation was associated with an increase in the
hippocampal volume, an over-expression of both synaptophysin and
BDNF,
and a raise in the number of newborn cells.
Besides the possible modulation of brain plasticity, present results
highlight the effectiveness of PUFA given alone or in combination
with
antidepressant drug as potential treatment of depressive disorders.

Psychoneuroendocrinology [Psychoneuroendocrinology]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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[quote]James C. DeMar, Jr.*, Kiazong Ma*, Jane M. Bell*, Miki Igarashi*,
Deanna Greenstein and Stanley I. Rapoport1,*

* Brain Physiology and Metabolism Section, National Institute on
Aging, and Child Psychiatry Branch, National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD, 20892
National Institute of Mental Health, National Institutes of Health,
Bethesda, MD 20892

Published, JLR Papers in Press, October 6, 2005.

1 To whom correspondence should be addressed. e-mail:
s...@helix.nih.gov

Male rat pups at weaning (21 days of age) were subjected to a diet
deficient or adequate in n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (n-3 PUFAs)
for 15 weeks.
Performance on tests of locomotor activity, depression, and aggression
was measured in that order during the ensuing 3 weeks, after which
brain lipid composition was determined.
In the n-3 PUFA-deprived rats, compared with n-3 PUFA-adequate rats,
docosahexaenoic acid (22:6n-3) in brain phospholipid was reduced by
36% and docosapentaenoic acid (22:5n-6) was elevated by 90%, whereas
brain phospholipid concentrations were unchanged.
N-3 PUFA-deprived rats had a significantly increased (P = 0.03) score
on the Porsolt forced-swim test for depression, and increased blocking
time (P = 0.03) and blocking number (P = 0.04) scores (uncorrected for
multiple comparisons) on the isolation-induced resident-intruder test
for aggression.
Large effect sizes (d > 0.8) were found on the depression score and on
the blocking time score of the aggression test.
Scores on the open-field test for locomotor activity did not differ
significantly between groups, and had only small to medium effect
sizes.
This single-generational n-3 PUFA-deprived rat model, which
demonstrated significant changes in brain lipid composition and in
test scores for depression and aggression, may be useful for
elucidating the contribution of disturbed brain PUFA metabolism to
human depression, aggression, and bipolar disorder.

Supplementary key words docosahexaenoic • locomotor • rat • activity •
behavior • diet

----------------------

n-3 Polyunsaturated fatty acid supplementation reverses stress-induced
modifications on brain monoamine levels in mice.
* Unité de Nutrition et Régulation Lipidique des Fonctions Cérébrales,
Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, domaine de Vilvert,
78352 Jouy-en-Josas cedex, France

The aim of this study was to examine the effects of supplementation
with n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) on stress responses in
mice subjected to an unpredictable chronic mild stress (UCMS)
procedure.
Stress-induced modifications in coat and aggressiveness were
evaluated, and phospholipid PUFA profiles and monoamine levels were
analyzed in the frontal cortex, hippocampus, and striatum. The results
showed that repeated exposure to mild stressors induced degradation in
the physical state of the coat, lowered body weight gain, and
increased aggressiveness, without any effect of n-3 PUFA
supplementation.
The UCMS induced a significant decrease in the levels of
norepinephrine in the frontal cortex and striatum, and a
nonsignificant decrease in the hippocampus.
The tissue levels of serotonin (5-HT) were 40% to 65% decreased in the
three brain regions studied.
Interestingly, the n-3 PUFA supplementation reversed this stress-
induced reduction in 5-HT levels.
These findings showed that supplementation in n-3 long-chain PUFAs
might reverse certain effects of UCMS in cerebral structures involved
in stress-related behaviors.

Supplementary key words chronic mild stress • omega 3 •
docosahexaenoic acid
S. Vancassel*, S. Leman,, L. Hanonick**, S. Denis*, J. Roger,, M.
Nollet,, S. Bodard,, I. Kousignian,, C. Belzung, and S. Chalon1,,

* Unité de Nutrition et Régulation Lipidique des Fonctions Cérébrales,
Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, domaine de Vilvert,
78352 Jouy-en-Josas cedex, France
EA 3248 Psychobiologie des Emotions, Faculté des Sciences &
Techniques, Université François Rabelais, Tours, F-37000, France
Institut Fédératif de Recherche 135, Tours, F-37000, France
** Endocrinologie et Maladies Métaboliques, CHU Henri Mondor, Créteil,
F-94000, France
Institut National de la Santé et de la Recherche Médicale, U619,
Tours, F-37000, France

Published, JLR Papers in Press, November 8, 2007.

1 To whom correspondence should be addressed. e-mail:
sylvie.cha...@univ-tours.fr

Originally published In Press as doi:10.1194/jlr.M700328-JLR200 on
November 8, 2007

Journal of Lipid Research, Vol. 49, 340-348, February 2008
Copyright © 2008 by American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular
Biology
-------------------------

Prisoners given supplements in new trial
By Shane Starling

09-Sep-2008 - An Oxford University study being conducted in three UK
prisons is investigating the link between nutrition and behaviour.

It follows a 2002 UK trial that found consumption of food supplements
could reduce anti-social behaviour in teenagers as well as 30 years
inquiry into the subject by one of the lead researchers, professor
Alexander Schauss, PhD, FACN, senior director of natural and medicinal
products research at natural products consultancy, AIBMR Life
Sciences.

Schauss noted more than 20 controlled clinical trials carried out in
state and county juvenile and adult institutions confirmed that diet
could be used to reduce the incidence of antisocial behavior by up to
60 percent.

The new study, one of the largest ever conducted, is being funded by a
$2.6m (€1.83m) grant from the Wellcome Trust, the UK>s largest medical
research charity.

Behaviour modification

The study aims to find out if nutrient levels required for optimum
brain function are also responsible for behaviour modification.

Similar studies carried out in the US and Europe have determined the
link between nutrition and behaviour.

"Seeing the level of research on diet and crime reach this level of
financial support by the medical community is heartening,” said
Schauss.

“But it took over 30 years, even though the evidence was there back in
the 1970s."

The director of the Wellcome Trust stated: "If this study shows
nutritional supplementation affects behaviour, it could have profound
significance for nutrition guidelines not only within the criminal
justice system, but in the wider community, in schools, for example.
We are all used to nutritional guidelines for our physical health,
but this study could lead to revisions taking into account our mental
health, as well."

The researchers will investigate the affect of different food
supplements on behaviour compared to groups on placebo.

"It is my hope that we see better nutrition education and start with
pre-conceptual care programs that focus on nutrition and other
lifestyle factors and behaviors that can decrease the risk of
antisocial behavior," Schauss said.

Schauss is the author of a book called Diet, Crime and Delinquency,
written in 1978 and which posited the idea that diet and behaviour
were closely linked.

The study is being conducted in conjunction with the Institute of
Psychiatry at Imperial College, University of London, the University
of Surrey, the University of Liverpool and the Medical Research
Council on Human Nutrition Research.

The 2002 study gave essential fatty acid supplements to 18-21-year-old
prisoners and found antisocial behaviour was reduced by 37 per cent
compared to placebo.

---------------------------------

Who loves ya.
Tom

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Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk[/quote]

ironjustice@aol.com · Guest

On Nov 18, 10:11 am, charles <ckr...@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote:I* hope
I can remember all this next time when I>m a rat.
<<

I would be happy to understand how one mouse eating the brain of
another mouse TRAINED to use a maze allows it to do THAT very maze at
an accelerated rate as opposed to the mice who didn>t eat mouse
preconditioned brains.

I just may need to catch up on some of my math skills ..

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Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/634q5a

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

ironjustice@aol.com · Guest

On Nov 18, 10:44 am, CyberDroog <CyberDr...@ClockworkOrange.com>
wrote:
Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the
Renaissance In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500
years of
democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock <<

I had a cuckoo clock .. at home .. when I was a kid ..

I kinda wish I was a kid .. again ..

How about yourself ..

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/634q5a

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

Leonardo da Vinci, and the
[quote]Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of
democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.

- Orson Wells, playing Harry Lime in the film The Third Man.[/quote]

ironjustice@aol.com · Guest

On Nov 18, 10:53 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com>
wrote:
The cuckoo clock. <<

Leo Tolstoy:

Not long ago I had a talk with a retired soldier, a butcher, and he
was surprised at my assertion that it was a pity to kill, and said the
usual things about it>s being ordained. But afterwards he agreed with
me: `Especially when they are quiet, tame cattle. They come, poor
things! trusting you. It is very pitiful.'

This is dreadful! Not the suffering and death of the animals, but that
a man suppresses in himself, unnecessarily, the highest spiritual
capacity -- that of sympathy and pity towards living creatures like
himself -- and by violating his own feelings becomes cruel. And how
deeply seated in the human heart is the injunction not to take life!

Once, when walking from Moscow, I was offered a lift by some carters
who were going to Serpukhov to a neighbouring forest to fetch wood. It
was Thursday before Easter. I was seated in the first cart with a
strong, red, coarse cartman, who evidently drank. On entering a
village we saw a well-fed, naked, pink pig being dragged out of the
first yard to be slaughtered. It squealed in a dreadful voice,
resembling the shriek of a man. Just as we were passing they began to
kill it. A man gashed its throat with a knife. The pig squealed still
more loudly and piercingly, broke away from the men, and ran off
covered with blood.

Being near-sighted I did not see all the details. I saw only the human-
looking pink body of the pig and heard its desperate squeal, but the
carter saw all the details and watched closely. They caught the pig,
knocked it down, and finished cutting its throat. When its squeals
ceased the carter sighed heavily. `Do men really not have to answer
for such things?' he said.

So strong is humanity>s aversion to all killing. But by example, by
encouraging greediness, by the assertion that God has allowed it, and
above all by habit, people entirely lose this natural feeling.

I only wish to say that for a good life a certain order of good
actions is indispensable; that if a man>s aspirations toward right
living be serious they will inevitably follow one definite sequence;
and that in this sequence the first virtue a man will strive after
will be self-control, self-restraint. And in seeking for self-control
a man will inevitably follow one definite sequence, and it this
sequence the first thing will be self-control of food. And if he be
really and seriously seeking to live a good life, the first thing from
which he will abstain will always be the use of animal food, because,
to say nothing of the excitation of the passions caused by such food,
its use is simply immoral, as it involves the performance of an act
which is contrary to moral feeling -- killing.

"But why, if the wrongfulness of animal food was known to humanity so
long ago, have people not yet come to acknowledge this law?" will be
asked by those who are accustomed to be led by public opinion rather
by reason. The answer to this question is that the moral progress of
humanity -- which is the foundation of every other kind of progress --
is always slow; but that the sign of true, not casual, progress is its
uninterruptedness and its continual acceleration.

And the progress of vegetarianism is of this kind. That progress is
expressed in the actual life of mankind, which from many causes is
involuntarily passing more and more from carnivorous habits to
vegetable food, and is also deliberately following the same path in a
movement which shows evident strength, and which is growing larger and
larger -- viz. vegetarianism. That movement has during the last ten
years advanced more and more rapidly. More and more books and
periodicals on this subject appear every year; one meets more and more
people who have given up meat; and abroad, especially Germany,
England, and America, the number of vegetarian hotels and restaurants
increases year by year.

This movement should cause special joy to those whose life lies in the
effort to bring about the kingdom of God on earth, not because
vegetarianism is in itself an important step towards that kingdom (all
true steps are both important and unimportant), but because it is a
sign that the aspiration of mankind towards moral perfection is
serious and sincere, for it has taken the one unalterable order of
succession natural to it, beginning with the first step.

One cannot fail to rejoice at this, as people could not fail to
rejoice who, after striving to reach the upper story of a house by
trying vainly and at random to climb the walls from different points,
should at last assemble at the first step of the staircase and crowd
towards it, convinced that there can be no way up except by mounting
this first step of stairs.

Who loves ya.
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Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/634q5a

Man Is A Herbivore!
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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[quote]
- Orson Wells, playing Harry Lime in the film The Third Man.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -[/quote]

ironjustice@aol.com · Guest

On Nov 18, 10:44 am, CyberDroog <CyberDr...@ClockworkOrange.com>
wrote:
Yeah, just read it and let it mean whatever *you* want it to mean. <<

Yep ..

On Nov 18, 10:44 am, CyberDroog <CyberDr...@ClockworkOrange.com>
wrote:Not much point in even reading it then. <<

Unless you know your stuff ..

Such as .. as an analogy .. myself ..

A guy comes along and says he found a message of bloodletting in the
Bible.
EVERYONE says bullsht ..

Fifteen years later we find out that bloodletting is the ONLY
treatment available for the number one disease in the Jewish.
We find out the pointer the Jewish use to turn the pages of the Torah
is a bloodletting instrument.
We find out monks in the Middle Ages used to bloodlet REQUIRED to
bloodlet at least four times a year UNTIL the government OUTLAWED it.
We find out bloodletting is treating every disease imaginable.

On Nov 18, 10:44 am, CyberDroog <CyberDr...@ClockworkOrange.com>
wrote:Especially when you come away with such
ridiculous ideas as Jesus being a vegetarian when he quite clearly
was not. <<

The Bible **specifically TELLS** to eat meat.

Yes .. you are correct .. the Bible does say to specifically eat
meat .. that is a given.

BUT .. if one goes to other teachings and other history books the
tendency towards vegetarianism is there ..

AND the **fact** that .. **I** .. said I found it.

My cred as to decipherment is batting 1000 when one considers the
treatment for all disease .. stats.

Sooo .. history and my detective work .. says vegetarian ..

That would be .. my .. humble .. opinion ..

http://www.care2.com/news/member/185341883/736157

Gospel of Thomas .. has a definite vegetarian bend.

"That Peter was Vegetarian is seen in the Clementine Recognitions and
the Clementine Homilies, as well as by Pliny the Younger>s letter to
Emperor Trajan in 112 c.e."

http://www.geocities.com/ebionite23/page70.html

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Man Is A Herbivore!
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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[quote]
Or perhaps you consider fish to be vegetables...

--
In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder,
and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the
Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of
democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.

- Orson Wells, playing Harry Lime in the film The Third Man.[/quote]

Guest · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Predisposed To Aberrancy

""This study shows that topically applied oil can be absorbed in
neonates and is probably available for nutritional purposes.""

Sooo, it means we digest things through the skin? No more eating, just
rub it on and get all the nutrition you need? When digested in the gut
does oil remain the same by the time it gets to the blood? Could
undigested substances like oil be toxic if introduced directly into the
blood?


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