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Bill Pritchard
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 6:14 pm    Post subject: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

Forgive my ignorance, but if I mix up a solution of poultry shield how long
will it keep before I have to throw it?
Bill Pritchard
Retired and Emotional
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Jay
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

"Bill Pritchard" <wppritchard@aol.com> wrote in message
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[quote]Forgive my ignorance, but if I mix up a solution of poultry shield how
long
will it keep before I have to throw it?
Bill Pritchard
Retired and Emotional
[/quote]
Please forgive mine as well. What is Poultry Shield and what do you use it
for?

How many eggs have you had now?

Regards

Jay
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Bill Pritchard
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

Poultry Shield is used to kill red spider and although I haven>t got any yet
(neither have the chickens) I am a bit of a boy scout and got some in advance.
Eggwise I>ve now had about 20 which has brought the average price tumbling
right down to £25 each. I>ve got four warrens but I think only two are laying.
Bill Pritchard
Retired and Emotional
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Jill
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:24 am    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

"Bill Pritchard" <wppritchard@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040211125613.24726.00001607@mb-m16.aol.com...
[quote]Poultry Shield is used to kill red spider and although I haven>t got any
yet
(neither have the chickens) I am a bit of a boy scout and got some in
advance.
Eggwise I>ve now had about 20 which has brought the average price tumbling
right down to £25 each. I>ve got four warrens but I think only two are
laying.
Bill Pritchard
Retired and Emotional
[/quote]
Bill
What does the tin say ?
I have never used it - our climate and practises seem to be red mite
unfriendly I am glad to say - one small strike in 13 years.
Do you have red mite at the moment ?
Is it that warm down south ? - not having lived there for "so" long its a
very genuine question, but I am a little surprised on the face of it that
its warm and dry enough for red mite and that they have found your birds so
soon - although if you have a well stocked green house they may have come
from there of course
Where did you buy the stuff from ?
For something like that all the instructions for it should be on the leaflet
/ tin
If it says make up and use - then storing is not an option - either its too
toxic to be considered safe to store or it degrades rapidly so there is no
point storing it
I would ask the folks you bought it from - if they donot know immediately
[ie they are supplied by others - the "others" should be able to tell them
so they can find out the answer
If any of that makes any sense - good luck

On your birds - why do you think only 2 are laying
Have only 2 got bright red combs?

--
regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks; Housing; Books, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Holidays in Scotland and Wales
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
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Bill Pritchard
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:45 am    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

I no longer live in the civilised half of the country having moved up here to
North Lincolnshire about 18mths. ago. I bought the Poultry Shield from SPR last
week even though I haven>t seen any sign of red mite. I have lived a life of
"if it can go wrong it will" and try and be prepared for anything! This stuff
is supposed to be the poodle>s privates in killing red mite but the
instructions don>t say how long a solution will last once mixed with water and
I wondered if anyone had tried it and could tell me.
Bill Pritchard
Retired and Emotional
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Bill Pritchard
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

I have read the big book of hens and haven>t seen anything about bright red
combs. Could you explain?
Bill Pritchard
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Jill
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

"Bill Pritchard" <wppritchard@aol.com> wrote in message
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[quote]I have read the big book of hens and haven>t seen anything about bright
red
combs. Could you explain?
Bill Pritchard
Retired and Emotional
[/quote]
As a pullet or a moulted hen comes into lay she goes from exhibiting a pale
pink small comb [to those with rosecombs and multicombs etc - I am being
simplistic] to a fuller prominent red comb and wattles. This is usually a
sure sign of laying
The insipid looking girls are those that are not pulling their weight
The strong vibrant ones are likely to be in lay
The other way is to lay your hand along their underside with the fingers
towards their tail
If you can get 2 fingers between their pelvic bones then they are probably
laying

--
regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks; Housing; Books, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Holidays in Scotland and Wales
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
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Jill
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

"Bill Pritchard" <wppritchard@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040211144512.24654.00001813@mb-m16.aol.com...
[quote]I no longer live in the civilised half of the country having moved up here
to
North Lincolnshire about 18mths. ago.
[/quote]
?? sorry I have missed the connection here?

I bought the Poultry Shield from SPR last
[quote]week even though I haven>t seen any sign of red mite.
[/quote]
Phone SPR up Bill- they have donkeys years of experience of products - if
they do not know of the top of their head they can find out. SPR are one of
the best places in the country.

Interhatch would know but I do not have their new number to hand - Oldmolly
have you got it?

I have lived a life of
[quote]"if it can go wrong it will" and try and be prepared for anything! This
stuff
is supposed to be the poodle>s privates in killing red mite
[/quote]
yes but if there is no red mite and its the wrong time of year for red mite
- what other inscet life might you be killing when you are not killing red
mite?
- what money are you completely wasting?
- why do you consider your new hens and your new house to be in any way at
risk?
It seems to be a completely unnecessary action????

but the
[quote]instructions don>t say how long a solution will last once mixed with water
[/quote]
Bill
what do the instructions say ?
It may be that you mix what you need with water - use it and dispose as
directed - many of these things are not to be stored

and
[quote]I wondered if anyone had tried it and could tell me.
[/quote]
Unless they had read the instructions or found out other instructions or had
a laboratory at home to test the effectiveness of the solution privately
trying a product does not tell you how it is scientifically based or how the
manufacturers have designed it to be used??

--
regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks; Housing; Books, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Holidays in Scotland and Wales
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
[quote]Bill Pritchard
Retired and Emotional[/quote]
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[neil]
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

"Jill" <farm@removethisbitkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ePGWb.2273$h44.432856@stones.force9.net...
[quote]
As a pullet or a moulted hen comes into lay she goes from exhibiting a
pale
pink small comb [to those with rosecombs and multicombs etc - I am being
simplistic] to a fuller prominent red comb and wattles. This is usually a
sure sign of laying
The insipid looking girls are those that are not pulling their weight
The strong vibrant ones are likely to be in lay
The other way is to lay your hand along their underside with the fingers
towards their tail
If you can get 2 fingers between their pelvic bones then they are probably
laying

--
regards
Jill Bowis
[/quote]
Sorry to hijack the thread, but is there a general time when hens start to
lay again? My black sex-links stopped laying a week before Christmas, and
I>ve still not had any eggs since, although one of them has reddish wattles,
the other two are still very pale pink. I only ask as someone at work had
hens previously and said "oh they should have started laying again - mine
only stopped for one week at Christmas".

Cheers

Neil
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Jay
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

"Bill Pritchard" <wppritchard@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040211125613.24726.00001607@mb-m16.aol.com...
[quote]Poultry Shield is used to kill red spider and although I haven>t got any
yet
(neither have the chickens) I am a bit of a boy scout and got some in
advance.
Eggwise I>ve now had about 20 which has brought the average price tumbling
right down to £25 each. I>ve got four warrens but I think only two are
laying.
Bill Pritchard
Retired and Emotional
[/quote]
Perhaps you could amend your sig to include Hypochondriac.
I was a girl guide and I also like being prepared. But I limit it to
identifying what I would need in different circumstances and knowing where
to buy it from.
That said I do have a louse powder that I add to the hens dust baths and I
also keep an antiseptic spray available.

So if only two of your hens are laying they must be doing so almost every
day.
Don>t forget to thank them for the eggs when you collect.

Jay
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Jay
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

"[neil]" <neilw@nospamplease.knobcheese.com> wrote in message
news:402b4ba1$0$12575$fa0fcedb@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
[quote]"Jill" <farm@removethisbitkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ePGWb.2273$h44.432856@stones.force9.net...

As a pullet or a moulted hen comes into lay she goes from exhibiting a
pale
pink small comb [to those with rosecombs and multicombs etc - I am being
simplistic] to a fuller prominent red comb and wattles. This is usually
a
sure sign of laying
The insipid looking girls are those that are not pulling their weight
The strong vibrant ones are likely to be in lay
The other way is to lay your hand along their underside with the fingers
towards their tail
If you can get 2 fingers between their pelvic bones then they are
probably
laying

--
regards
Jill Bowis

Sorry to hijack the thread, but is there a general time when hens start to
lay again? My black sex-links stopped laying a week before Christmas, and
I>ve still not had any eggs since, although one of them has reddish
wattles,
the other two are still very pale pink. I only ask as someone at work had
hens previously and said "oh they should have started laying again - mine
only stopped for one week at Christmas".

Cheers

Neil


I have three (out of three) Barnvelders laying again, One (out of two)[/quote]
Sussex laying and none of the Araucanas have recommenced as yet. Those that
are laying started again about five weeks ago (second week in January).

Jay
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Bill Pritchard
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

Now I know what to look for it appears that three are laying.
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Jill
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:42 am    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

"[neil]" <neilw@nospamplease.knobcheese.com> wrote in message
[quote]
Sorry to hijack the thread,
[/quote]
thats okay

but is there a general time when hens start to
[quote]lay again? My black sex-links stopped laying a week before Christmas, and
I>ve still not had any eggs since, although one of them has reddish
wattles,
the other two are still very pale pink. I only ask as someone at work had
hens previously and said "oh they should have started laying again - mine
only stopped for one week at Christmas".
[/quote]

where abouts are you and what has your weather been like
Most of ours were laying brilliantly in JAnuary despite the dark [we are far
north UK] but we had some really rough weather and that knocked some of them
off their stride
Cold can do it too as they do not adapt very quickly and drink enough
so location - roughly would help

--
regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks; Housing; Books, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Holidays in Scotland and Wales
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
[quote]
Cheers

Neil

[/quote]
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Krys Francis
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 4:24 am    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

In message <1076593666.93812.0@doris.uk.clara.net>, Jay
<j_green156@hotmail.com> writes
[quote]
"[neil]" <neilw@nospamplease.knobcheese.com> wrote in message
news:402b4ba1$0$12575$fa0fcedb@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
"Jill" <farm@removethisbitkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ePGWb.2273$h44.432856@stones.force9.net...

As a pullet or a moulted hen comes into lay she goes from exhibiting a
pale
pink small comb [to those with rosecombs and multicombs etc - I am being
simplistic] to a fuller prominent red comb and wattles. This is usually
a
sure sign of laying
The insipid looking girls are those that are not pulling their weight
The strong vibrant ones are likely to be in lay
The other way is to lay your hand along their underside with the fingers
towards their tail
If you can get 2 fingers between their pelvic bones then they are
probably
laying

--
regards
Jill Bowis

Sorry to hijack the thread, but is there a general time when hens start to
lay again? My black sex-links stopped laying a week before Christmas, and
I>ve still not had any eggs since, although one of them has reddish
wattles,
the other two are still very pale pink. I only ask as someone at work had
hens previously and said "oh they should have started laying again - mine
only stopped for one week at Christmas".

Cheers

Neil


I have three (out of three) Barnvelders laying again, One (out of two)
Sussex laying and none of the Araucanas have recommenced as yet. Those that
are laying started again about five weeks ago (second week in January).
[/quote]
Most of our araucana colours (except our blue reds) are home made & are
related in some way, I>m not sure if all araucanas are like this but
ours are usually amongst the first to start laying & the last to
finish;-)
Some of our new speckled sussex have started laying (first time layers,
the originals aren>t even thinking about it) some of them are laying
white eggs!!! White eggs will be great for when I make mille fleur
leghorns but seem a bit odd for sussex eggs.
After nearly a week of rain this spring like weather is very welcome,
Snowdrops just starting to flower, daffs & primroses in bud, tulip
leaves coming, it>s getting there:-))

[quote]
Jay


[/quote]
--

Regards


Krys
www.lluestfarmpoultry.co.uk
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Christina Websell
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:30 am    Post subject: Re: Poultry Shield Reply with quote

Jay <j_green156@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]
Perhaps you could amend your sig to include Hypochondriac.
[/quote]
Oh now, come on Jay.
You were just the same yourself when you first got your chickens.
I guess you forgot what it was like. Already.
Don>t.

Tina
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