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Mark A
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 Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 10:02 pm Post subject: Poultry Lice |
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What is the best cure for poultry lice? I have found one on myself after
handling one of our birds that appears poorly and hasn>t laid for a while.
She also shakes her head quite a bit and has plucked feathers off of her
neck.
Many thanks in advance
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Graeme
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 2:35 am Post subject: Re: Poultry Lice |
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"nuele" <fowls@nuele-online.de> wrote in message
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[quote]Mark A <markj.adams@virgin.net> wrote:
What is the best cure for poultry lice? I have found one on myself after
handling one of our birds that appears poorly and hasn>t laid for a
while.
She also shakes her head quite a bit and has plucked feathers off of her
neck.
Many thanks in advance
Mark A
Hello Mark,
could also have been a mite.
There are parasites living from the feathers of the bird, you can see
their eggs when you divide the feathers until you can see the skin. In
German they are called "Federlinge", I don>t know their English name,
probably what you would call lice.
But very often, chickens are suffering from mites. Red mites usually
only come out of their hiding places at night - under the perches, in
little cracks in the wood etc - to suck the birds' blood. Of course, if
there are a lot of red mites, the birds will feel miserable, won>t lay,
youngsters even die of the loss of blood. If you find some on the bird
during the day, I would think there really must be a lot of them!
Then there even are fleas that can be found on chickens.
I>m sorry I can>t recommend a treatment as I only know German products,
but in any case I think you must find out first what you really found on
your bird.
The red mite can be found inside the coop, either if you go out at night
with a torch and have a close look at perches and birds then, or if you
check the perches early in the morning. If you wipe along the perches,
along the lower side, you will recognise red mite trouble by the traces
of blood on your fingers.
The "lice" or what you call them permanently live on the bird and lay
their eggs at the roots of the feathers, close to the skin, where you
will find them on closer inspection.
Nuele (D)
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for mailing me, replace the fowls in my address by sap to avoid the spam
trap
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If you are in the UK try Deosan Deosect - you dilute it into a sprayer and
then use it on birds and nesting areas - if it is bad enough you can dunk
the poultry in it but wear rubber gloves as it is not nice stuff to use.
I>ve been worming our poultry for ages now using an ivermectin based cattle
wormer and have not experienced any red mite since - maybe coincidence - I
tend to think not.
If your lice are not bright red in colour then you may try bathing the
chickens in a dog flea shampoo - works wonders but the chickens hate it!
Graeme |
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Robert Plamondon
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 3:14 am Post subject: Re: Poultry Lice |
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"Mark A" <markj.adams@virgin.net> wrote in message
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[quote]What is the best cure for poultry lice?
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Insecticides are the cure. Dust baths are a pretty good preventative, but
are not an effective cure, especially if the affected hen is broody or too
ill and lethargic to dust-bathe. Also, don>t let broody hens linger in the
nest boxes for days on end; they get horrendous infestations and pass them
on to the other hens.
Many insecticides work against lice; many are also relatively non-toxic to
the birds (NOT diazinon, however). I like Malathion for this purpose
(cheap, relatively non-toxic to humans and chickens, legal for the purpose
in the US with a zero withdrawal time, and has a low persistence so it won>t
mess up the environment in the future).
I>m told that Malathion is illegal and immoral in some countries, so you
should use something that>s in accordance with local regulations and
taboos -- or at least observe a decent furtiveness.
-- Robert
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Graeme
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Poultry Lice |
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"Jill" <news@REMOVETHISkintaline.plus.com> wrote in message
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"Graeme" <sakwoya1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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What is the best cure for poultry lice
If you are in the UK try Deosan Deosect - you dilute it into a sprayer
and
then use it on birds and nesting areas - if it is bad enough you can
dunk
the poultry in it but wear rubber gloves as it is not nice stuff to use.
I>ve been worming our poultry for ages now using an ivermectin based
cattle
wormer and have not experienced any red mite since - maybe coincidence -
I
tend to think not.
If your lice are not bright red in colour then you may try bathing the
chickens in a dog flea shampoo - works wonders but the chickens hate it!
Graeme
hiya stranger
wondered where you were the days ???
how are the chooks ??
what have you got in past the equines???
answer to the original Poster
have a good look around the web to find out exactly what you have
If you look on groups.google.com you will find you can look at past
messages
here
and see that other posters have found that what they thought was one bug
turned out to be another
and it is very very important to be treating the correct bug
there are gruesome pictures on line of the bugs in question
may be those that have looked them up most recently will furnish you with
the URL>s
I am guessing with a virgin .net email address you areUK based
try asking at Interhatch 0114 255 2340 for good bug killers
they are great folks and have all the drugs
If you want to post a picture of the birds or the bugs
the group now has a site for pictures
http://groups.msn.com/sciagriculturepoultry
keep in touch
--
Jill Bowis
http://www.poultryscotland.co.uk http://www.henhouses.co.uk
http://www.domesticducks.co.uk http://www.poultry-books.co.uk
http://www.kintaline.co.uk/cottage
I seem to be very busy these days! Horses are taking over the world[/quote]
(www.icelandichorse.co.uk for a laugh) but still have a few chooks running
around - nineteen baby Araucanas and Black Rocks, nine laying birds, one
very sweet cockerel and a stupid yokohama hen with seven love chicks by the
same cockerel - have some pictures of them which I must get around to
putting up.
Back to the Robert>s post on malathion? This is sold in the UK for use as a
spray insecticide for greenhouses etc etc - it>s not licensed for poultry
but it seems very little is these days it is certainly much cheaper than
Deosect and more people friendly two by the sounds of things
Graeme |
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Krys Francis
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 12:49 am Post subject: Re: Poultry Lice |
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In message <bfmv44$gkffm$1@ID-198594.news.uni-berlin.de>, Graeme
<sakwoya1@hotmail.com> writes
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"nuele" <fowls@nuele-online.de> wrote in message
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Mark A <markj.adams@virgin.net> wrote:
What is the best cure for poultry lice? I have found one on myself after
handling one of our birds that appears poorly and hasn>t laid for a
while.
She also shakes her head quite a bit and has plucked feathers off of her
neck.
Many thanks in advance
Mark A
Hello Mark,
could also have been a mite.
There are parasites living from the feathers of the bird, you can see
their eggs when you divide the feathers until you can see the skin. In
German they are called "Federlinge", I don>t know their English name,
probably what you would call lice.
But very often, chickens are suffering from mites. Red mites usually
only come out of their hiding places at night - under the perches, in
little cracks in the wood etc - to suck the birds' blood. Of course, if
there are a lot of red mites, the birds will feel miserable, won>t lay,
youngsters even die of the loss of blood. If you find some on the bird
during the day, I would think there really must be a lot of them!
Then there even are fleas that can be found on chickens.
I>m sorry I can>t recommend a treatment as I only know German products,
but in any case I think you must find out first what you really found on
your bird.
The red mite can be found inside the coop, either if you go out at night
with a torch and have a close look at perches and birds then, or if you
check the perches early in the morning. If you wipe along the perches,
along the lower side, you will recognise red mite trouble by the traces
of blood on your fingers.
The "lice" or what you call them permanently live on the bird and lay
their eggs at the roots of the feathers, close to the skin, where you
will find them on closer inspection.
Nuele (D)
--
for mailing me, replace the fowls in my address by sap to avoid the spam
trap
If you are in the UK try Deosan Deosect - you dilute it into a sprayer and
then use it on birds and nesting areas - if it is bad enough you can dunk
the poultry in it but wear rubber gloves as it is not nice stuff to use.
I>ve been worming our poultry for ages now using an ivermectin based cattle
wormer and have not experienced any red mite since - maybe coincidence - I
tend to think not.
[/quote]
You>re right ivermectin kills ectoparasites quickly & easily.
[quote]
If your lice are not bright red in colour then you may try bathing the
chickens in a dog flea shampoo - works wonders but the chickens hate it!
Graeme
[/quote]
--
Regards
Krys
www.lluestfarmpoultry.co.uk |
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