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Chris H
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 Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: Re: Posting formats |
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In message <DcgHk.1385$JJ4.1132@newsfe06.iad>, Brad Velander
<bveland@SpamThis.com> writes
[quote]Well Chuck,
You>re the first I have ever heard of bottom posting emails.
[/quote]
It has been the norm in the 50+ NG>s I have been on over the last 18
years on line.
[quote]Inter-mixed
quite possibly and I do it myself for certian types of emails/content.
[/quote]
I tend to prefer that myself.
[quote]But I
certainly don>t need to read the original posts over and over again with
every reply before I reach the new original thoughts of the current poster.
[/quote]
I agree, you have to trim posts. The point you need to remember is that
each email needs to stand alone.
[quote]have already read, possibly several times. However, Usenet saw fit to make
most forums unmoderated and without such silly rules
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This is not correct almost every NG has a charter and rules as you will
know, if like me, you have actually created an NG. The few that don>t
are some of the original ones from before the great name change. That
was before I came on line 18 years ago.
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Paul Carpenter
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: Re: Posting formats |
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In article <DcgHk.1385$JJ4.1132@newsfe06.iad>, bveland@SpamThis.com
says...
[quote]Well Chuck,
You>re the first I have ever heard of bottom posting emails. Inter-mixed
quite possibly and I do it myself for certian types of emails/content. But I
certainly don>t need to read the original posts over and over again with
every reply before I reach the new original thoughts of the current poster.
But the post initiating my response is there like a footnote or appendix if
anybody needs such reference/memory assistance.
And I despise bottom posts because I don>t want to search for their new
original thoughts/comments through the prior comments and thoughts that I
have already read, possibly several times. However, Usenet saw fit to make
most forums unmoderated and without such silly rules so it is not my spot to
critique others unless they are breaking a definite rule or actually being
rude and obnoxious, not simply because I don>t personally like their posting
format.
[/quote]
Well you will find very small group of people even bothering to read
your posts.
Surprise surprise I will not see any response he ,may make to this.
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rickman
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: Re: Posting formats |
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On Oct 9, 3:36 am, Paul Carpenter <p...@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk>
wrote:
[quote]In article <DcgHk.1385$JJ4.1...@newsfe06.iad>, bvel...@SpamThis.com
says...
Well Chuck,
You>re the first I have ever heard of bottom posting emails. Inter-mixed
quite possibly and I do it myself for certian types of emails/content. But I
certainly don>t need to read the original posts over and over again with
every reply before I reach the new original thoughts of the current poster.
But the post initiating my response is there like a footnote or appendix if
anybody needs such reference/memory assistance.
And I despise bottom posts because I don>t want to search for their new
original thoughts/comments through the prior comments and thoughts that I
have already read, possibly several times. However, Usenet saw fit to make
most forums unmoderated and without such silly rules so it is not my spot to
critique others unless they are breaking a definite rule or actually being
rude and obnoxious, not simply because I don>t personally like their posting
format.
Well you will find very small group of people even bothering to read
your posts.
Surprise surprise I will not see any response he ,may make to this.
[/quote]
So who the hell are you talking to??? |
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Michael N. Moran
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Posting formats |
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Brad Velander wrote:
[quote]Well Chuck, You>re the first I have ever heard of bottom
posting emails.
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Wow ... I feel odd ;)
Bottom posting (with judicious trimming) is just a
special case of intermixing where there is only a single
point of discussion.
[quote]Inter-mixed quite possibly and I do it myself for certian
types of emails/content. But I certainly don>t need to
read the original posts over and over again with every
reply before I reach the new original thoughts of the
current poster.
[/quote]
Then perhaps you are not holding enough simultaneous e-mail
conversations or have an unusual ability to juggle those
conversations in your head. The problem gets worse when
the subject line diverges from the actual topic of
conversation.
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CBFalconer
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: ARPANET Pining |
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Brad Velander wrote:
[quote]
It was not the concensus of those that started the NGs. If it was,
why can you not supply any Usenet versions of these documents?
Actually exactly the opposite, Usenet documents explain quite
extensively how they are free and open without restriction and
only moderated if the NG is a moderated group.
[/quote]
Well, since you refuse to accept the standards and continue to
top-post, I refuse to accept them. PLONK. Enjoy.
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Try the download section. |
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Paul Carpenter
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: Posting formats |
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In article <84e69a4b-056e-4cfa-b3bc-
76f26550193d@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, gnuarm@gmail.com says...
[quote]On Oct 9, 3:36 am, Paul Carpenter <p...@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk
wrote:
In article <DcgHk.1385$JJ4.1...@newsfe06.iad>, bvel...@SpamThis.com
says...
Well Chuck,
You>re the first I have ever heard of bottom posting emails. Inter-mixed
quite possibly and I do it myself for certian types of emails/content.. But I
......
critique others unless they are breaking a definite rule or actually being
rude and obnoxious, not simply because I don>t personally like their posting
format.
Well you will find very small group of people even bothering to read
your posts.
Surprise surprise I will not see any response he ,may make to this.
So who the hell are you talking to???
[/quote]
I have just ascended something, what are they called?
Nurse who is this strange man making noises?
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Oliver Betz
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: Posting formats |
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"Brad Velander" wrote:
[quote]Well Chuck,
You>re the first I have ever heard of bottom posting emails. Inter-mixed
quite possibly and I do it myself for certian types of emails/content. But I
certainly don>t need to read the original posts over and over again with
[/quote]
could it be that your mean "full quote"?
Then you didn>t read Chuck>s mail correctly. He trimmed the quoted
text.
Oliver
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rickman
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: Re: ARPANET Pining |
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I have to say I am glad that is over...
On Oct 9, 10:30 am, CBFalconer <cbfalco...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]Brad Velander wrote:
It was not the concensus of those that started the NGs. If it was,
why can you not supply any Usenet versions of these documents?
Actually exactly the opposite, Usenet documents explain quite
extensively how they are free and open without restriction and
only moderated if the NG is a moderated group.
Well, since you refuse to accept the standards and continue to
top-post, I refuse to accept them. PLONK. Enjoy.[/quote] |
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Richard Henry
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: MIT Hacks/Pranks |
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On Oct 24, 9:34 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:15:49 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Martin Brown" <|||newspam...@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:f312c28f-a998-4312-b535-2546774ba9c2@u65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2210696/Cambridge-University>s....
Funny how back then, in 1958, the dean sent a "congratulatory" case of
champagne to the students he suspected were behind the plot, whereas the high
school kid who did his own rendition of the "WE SUCK" flip-card sabotage in
2007 received three days of suspension.
How times have changed...
Although I suppose the high school kid gets docks points for not being at all
original.
In ~1954 I emptied a restaurant across the alley from my Jr. High
School with a smoke bomb. The principal (*) confiscated my materials,
returned them to me at the end of the day with the admonition to NEVER
bring them to school again.
In 1970 a similar stunt, same town, earned a kid 2 years in "juvvy"
:-(
(*) Principal>s name was William Boyd... so we>ll see who, lurking
here, is old enough to know why we called him Hopalong (to his face
;-)
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Cassidy.
I had an "unbreakable" Hopalong dinner plate when I was young enough
to be at risk of breaking the family china. |
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Richard Henry
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: MIT Hacks/Pranks |
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On Oct 24, 9:15 am, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
[quote]"Martin Brown" <|||newspam...@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:f312c28f-a998-4312-b535-2546774ba9c2@u65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2210696/Cambridge-University>s...
Funny how back then, in 1958, the dean sent a "congratulatory" case of
champagne to the students he suspected were behind the plot, whereas the high
school kid who did his own rendition of the "WE SUCK" flip-card sabotage in
2007 received thee days of suspension.
How times have changed...
Although I suppose the high school kid gets docks points for not being at all
original.
[/quote]
When I was in the Navy stationed at Pt. Mugu NAS, CA, in the early 7os
we enlisted pukes suffered every year through the annual "Space Fair"
airshow, held on what would otherwise be a 3-day weekend. The second
time around, a buddy and I went into LA and had some buttons made up
that said "SPACE FAIR" in large block letters and "SUCKS" in tiny
print below. We were doing a brisk business selling them for 50 cents
apiece and were almost out of stock when I got a call from the command
leading chief at home one morning (I worked nights, my buddy worked
days) demanding that I come to his office ASAP. When I got there, he
had one of the buttons on his desk.
"Skidmore says that you and him are selling these."
<Big sawallow, dry mouth> "Yes, chief".
"Well, he>s all out and the Captain wants three of them."
Smiles and laughter all around, after which the Captain got his
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Joel Koltner
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: MIT Hacks/Pranks |
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"Martin Brown" <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:f312c28f-a998-4312-b535-2546774ba9c2@u65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
[quote]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2210696/Cambridge-University>s-1958-car-on-roof-prank-secrets-revealed.html
[/quote]
Funny how back then, in 1958, the dean sent a "congratulatory" case of
champagne to the students he suspected were behind the plot, whereas the high
school kid who did his own rendition of the "WE SUCK" flip-card sabotage in
2007 received thee days of suspension.
How times have changed...
Although I suppose the high school kid gets docks points for not being at all
original. |
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Jim Thompson
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: MIT Hacks/Pranks |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:15:49 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]"Martin Brown" <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:f312c28f-a998-4312-b535-2546774ba9c2@u65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2210696/Cambridge-University>s-1958-car-on-roof-prank-secrets-revealed.html
Funny how back then, in 1958, the dean sent a "congratulatory" case of
champagne to the students he suspected were behind the plot, whereas the high
school kid who did his own rendition of the "WE SUCK" flip-card sabotage in
2007 received three days of suspension.
How times have changed...
Although I suppose the high school kid gets docks points for not being at all
original.
[/quote]
In ~1954 I emptied a restaurant across the alley from my Jr. High
School with a smoke bomb. The principal (*) confiscated my materials,
returned them to me at the end of the day with the admonition to NEVER
bring them to school again.
In 1970 a similar stunt, same town, earned a kid 2 years in "juvvy"
:-(
(*) Principal>s name was William Boyd... so we>ll see who, lurking
here, is old enough to know why we called him Hopalong (to his face
;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Rich Grise
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: MIT Hacks/Pranks |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:52:22 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:
[quote]
Rich Grise wrote:
At the U. of MN, I joined the card section; they didn>t put the cards or
instructions on the seats - we each had an assigned seat (had to buy a
season ticket) and a white hooded windbreaker with the logo "Gopher
Rooter Club". They issued each member a set of cards, and when we showed
up at the stadium, they handed out instructions for each seat as we came
in.
That would have been very easy to sabotage, by swapping the printouts, if
you could get away with it.
The ironic thing is, by holding up the cards, we didn>t get to see the
show (each of us was essentially a pixel.) ;-)
If you put a couple of eyeholes in each card, you not only allow the card
holders to see the game, but pixel alignment is improved as well.
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Well, we could still see the field and stuff - we didn>t hold the cards
overhead; we pulled up our white hoods and held the cards against the
bridges of our noses. So you can actually see a few of the cards around
you, but not enough to see the "big picture". :-)
Cheers!
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Rich Grise
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: MIT Hacks/Pranks |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:42:58 -0700, Martin Brown wrote:
[quote]On Oct 23, 7:34 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/gallery/100308_mit_hac...
Cambridge UK was way ahead of that. And recently celebrated the 50th
anniversary of a group that put an Austin Seven on the apex of the senate
house roof. The authorities had a lot of bother getting it down again. See
for example:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2210696/Cambridge-University>s-1958-car-on-roof-prank-secrets-revealed.html
In another particularly memorable Rag Week stunt a bunch of white coated
students with clipboards separated an entire trainload of passengers from
their shoes on the grounds of foot and mouth precautions. The press was
there to greet the train and pay their dues. The passengers mostly
commuters were a bit annoyed.
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Put a guy in a lab coat and clipboard, and he can get away with
practically anything. ;-)
I had a job once where I>d come stumbling about 9:30 or so, pick up a
clipboard, and just wander around the factory. Then once a week, I>d
write the Great American Novel, AKA progress report. ;-)
Cheers!
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