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 Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Fudgin' Hansen Being Investigated |
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"James" <kingkongg@iglou.com> wrote
[quote]Ol Hansen will end up being the goat and Gore will be astonished. I can
see that fake surprised look now. LOL
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This comes from a terrific page titled, "Climate Change Myths" by Prof. John
Mitchell, Chief Scientist at the Met Office. One of the myths he debunks is
"Myth 6 - 1998 was the warmest year in the global annual temperature record
and this has led some to claim that temperatures have been decreasing ever
since." Here is his reply - it is worth reprinting and reading in its
entirety:
1998 saw an exceptional El Niño event which contributed strongly to that
record-breaking year. Research shows that an exceptional El Niño can warm
global temperatures by about 0.2 °C in a single year, affecting both the
ocean surface and the land air temperatures. It is therefore not surprising
that 1998 appears as a warm outlier. Had any recent years experienced such
an El-Niño, it is very likely that this record would have been broken. More
recently, 2005 was also an unusually warm year, the second highest in the
global record, but was not boosted by the El Niño conditions that augmented
the warmth of 1998.
http://climateprogress.org/2008/03/18/hadley-center-to-delayers-deniers-pielke-global-warming-not-cooling/ |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: Re: AUSTRALIA LOSING ITS SNOWY MOUNTAINS SNOWPACK COVER ... |
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"ZB00N" <ZB00N@z00z00.com> wrote
[quote]When you repeatedly get reports of unusually cold weather it starts to
kook like climate!!!!
[/quote]
And when they come exclusively from the southern hemisphere in winter and
the Northern Hemisphere in it>s winter, it begins to look like BONZO>s
Stupidity.
Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.
Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.
And most recently the rate of increase is about 2>C per century.
View with mono spaced font.
1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o*************
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o*****
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*********
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o*******
2004 14.49 ************************************************o**
2005 14.62 *************************************************o**********
2006 14.54 **************************************************o****
2007 14.57 ***************************************************o*****
-------------------------------------------> Temperature
Correlation Coefficient .8529209
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: ... |
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On Jul 31, 12:20 am, Kamau Kambon <ka...@niggerrific.com> wrote:
[quote]http://www.kctv5.com/news/16966553/detail.html
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- A woman accused of beating two children told
police it was punishment for sneaking food and water.
Police said Tanesha Anderson, 20, repeatedly beat the 3- and
4-year-old girls while she was baby-sitting them for her boyfriend.
Anderson also instructed a 10-year-old girl to hit one of the children
for her because her arm was hurting, police said.
Doctors said both kids were battered and bruised, and the 3-year-old
had a lacerated liver and damage to her other organs.
Anderson was charged with two counts of first-degree assault.
Anderson also instructed a 10-year-old girl to hit one of the children
for her because her arm was hurting, police said.
Doctors said both kids were battered and bruised, and the 3-year-old
had a lacerated liver and damage to her other organs.
It seems that internal organs are commonly damaged but hardly ever the
head.
We are witnessing the JUNGLEFICATION and NIGGERIZATION of America
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UNITE FOR CHANGE! HELP US MAKE KENYA OUR
51st STATE THUS CREATING NEW ENERGY FOR
AMERICA AND A CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!
*** Obama/Kambon '08 ***
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOcUKUSWpe8
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"Throughout 6,000 years of recorded history, the
pure-blooded African Negro has invented nothing.
Not a written language, weaved cloth, a calendar,
a plow, a road, a bridge, a railway, a ship, a
system of measurement, or even the wheel.
He is not known to have ever cultivated a single
crop or domesticated a single animal for his own
use. For shelter, he never progressed beyond the
common mud hut, the construction of which a beaver
or muskrat is capable."
(Pendell, Elmer, -Sex Versus Civilization- Noontide
Press; Weisman, Charles A. -The Origins of Race and
Civilization- 1990, SFA)
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Rape is a way of life for Darfur>s women. Sudan>s Darfur
crisis has exploded on many fronts -- violence, hunger,
displacement and looting -- but United Nations peacekeepers
say the biggest issue now affecting the region is the
systematic rape of women and children. The Sudanese
government, however, insists there is no problem:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/06/19/darfur.rape/index.html
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Vices the most notorious seem to be the portion of this unhappy
[negro] race: idleness, treachery, revenge, cruelty, impudence,
stealing, lying, profanity, debauchery, nastiness and intemperance,
are said to have extinguished the principles of natural law, and to
have silenced the reproofs of conscience.
-- Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1798.
"I have not been able to think out any solution to the terrible problem
offered by the presence of the Negro on this continent. He is here and
can neither be killed nor driven away." --Theodore Roosevelt
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4M9wsPz8_M&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbxIlpZwjkU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSG19c3elhQ&feature=related[/quote] |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: Re: "Drop ETS!" Says ACT Party |
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henry.peregrine.lawson@gmail.com wrote:
[quote]
ozobn wrote:
Rodney Hide MP
September 29 2008
"There is no evidence that CO2 drives climate
wrong.
[/quote]
Where is your evidence?
[quote]or that industrialisation is warming the world.
wrong.
[/quote]
Where is your evidence?
[quote]In fact, the evidence is the reverse...
wrong.
[/quote]
Where is your evidence?
[quote]Maybe a politician isn>t the best source for facts, bonzo?
[/quote]
Maybe showing us YOUR evidence makes you credible, but you can>t. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: Re: WRONG IN THE FIRST 8 WORDS! WAS: "Drop ETS!" Says ACT P |
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"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock@adnc.com> wrote in message
news:1a1ffad0-17cd-4574-92ec-d6cf42c3ed2d@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
WRONG IN THE FIRST 8 WORDS! WAS: "Drop ETS!" Says ACT Party
On Oct 1, 7:30 pm, "ozobn" <oz...@yyy.com> wrote:
[quote]Rodney Hide MP
September 29 2008
"There is no evidence that CO2 drives climate [ . . . ]
Below is an article of mine that has solid evidence that[/quote]
CO2 and temperature show a strong relationship over
the last 5 decades.
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ROTFLMAO
Yes we>ve heard this from you before comrade ...
"My statistics is correct, it>s reality that>s wrong!"
So the rising CO2 caused the cooling from 1940 to 1980, and the cooling
from 1998 to 2008?
Pull the other one buddy!
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Directly observed data from the last half century give
little reason to believe that sunspots alter global
temperatures.
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Solar activity affects not only temperatures but the ozone layer as
well.
Say bye-bye to your dearly beloved but now disproven Montreal
Protocol!!!
The AGW hoax is next in line ....
Cosmic Rays The Culprit In Ozone Hole As Well As Climate
When will the crazies ever learn?
Dennis Avery
October 1, 2008
A TELLING QUOTE: Fear of losing the ozone layer’s health protection led
to the Montreal Protocol, which has banned CFCs since 1989. But the ban
failed to change behavior of the ozone layer over the Antarctic.
QUOTE: The case for a solar-driven climate is also strengthened by a
drop in global temperatures over the past 18 months:
The temperature decline had been forecast by the sunspot index since
2000, but was not predicted by the global climate models.
A Canadian scientist says the largest known hole in the ozone will occur
over the South Pole in the next week. If that happens, it will help us
understand global warming.
Dr. Qing-Bin Lu, of Canada’s University of Waterloo, says NASA
satellites and laboratory measurements show cosmic rays are the real
cause of the seasonal hole in the earth’s ozone layer over the
Antarctic. Cosmic rays are tiny, invisible, high-energy particles from
exploding stars which constantly strike the earth—and people. Cosmic
rays probably cause some of our cancers, by altering the DNA inside our
bodies.
However, if Dr. Qing-Bin Lu and others are correct, they also are
connected to climate change. The number of cosmic rays hitting the earth
varies sharply based on the activity level of the sun and the size of
the magnetic wind it projects out into space. A weak sun means a weak
magnetic wind and more cosmic rays striking earth. Britain’s BBC
recently reported that the solar wind is now blowing at the weakest rate
in more than 50 years, and is also 13 percent cooler than it was 15
years ago.
The ozone layer is important because it absorbs most of the sun’s
high-frequency ultraviolet light, protecting us from skin cancers and
cataracts. In the 1980s, eco-activists told us the hole in the Antarctic
ozone had been caused by man-made chemicals released from the
chlorofluorocarbons once used in our refrigerators and air conditioners.
Fear of losing the ozone layer’s health protection led to the Montreal
Protocol, which has banned CFCs since 1989. But the ban failed to change
behavior of the ozone layer over the Antarctic.
Dr. Lu says that NASA satellites demonstrate that cosmic rays cause
drastic reactions in chlorine compounds inside clouds over the Polar
Regions. The satellite data now cover two full 11-year solar cycles,
from 1980–2007.
“This finding, combined with laboratory measurements, provides strong
evidence of the role of cosmic-ray-driven reactions in causing the ozone
hole, and resolves the mystery of why a large discrepancy between the
sunlight-related photochemical model and the observed ozone depletion
exists,” says Lu.
Cosmic rays are also connected to climate change. In 1998, Henrik
Svensmark of the Danish Space Research Institute filled a reaction
chamber with the earth’s mix of atmospheric gases, and turned on a UV
light to mimic the sun. He was amazed as the cosmic rays coming through
the building’s walls quickly filled the chamber with huge numbers of
microscopic, electrically charged droplets of water and sulfuric
acid—the “cloud seeds” that help create low, wet, cooling clouds in the
earth’s atmosphere. Since such clouds often cover 30 percent of the
earth’s surface, they can play a crucial role in the planet’s warming or
cooling.
Currently, the World Meteorological Organization uses the photochemical
model to predict that the Antarctic springtime ozone hole will increase
by another 5–10 percent by 2020. In sharp contrast, Dr. LU says the
severest ozone loss will occur over the South Pole this month—with
another large ozone-triggered hole occurring around 2019.
If the South Pole gets an ozone-hole maximum in the coming weeks, it
will strengthen the case for cosmic rays, and endorse a Modern Warming
driven by solar variations rather than human-emitted CO2. The solar
model is already endorsed by oxygen isotopes in ice cores from both
Greenland and the Antarctic, by microfossils in the sediments of nine
oceans and hundreds of lakes worldwide, and by cave stalagmites from
every continent plus New Zealand.
The case for a solar-driven climate is also strengthened by a drop in
global temperatures over the past 18 months: The temperature decline had
been forecast by the sunspot index since 2000, but was not predicted by
the global climate models.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5296
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
“… researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany
report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years,
accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth>s temperature over
the last 100 years.”
http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=287279412587175 |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:54 am Post subject: Re: WRONG IN THE FIRST 8 WORDS! WAS: "Drop ETS!" Says ACT P |
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"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock@adnc.com> wrote in message
news:1a1ffad0-17cd-4574-92ec-d6cf42c3ed2d@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
WRONG IN THE FIRST 8 WORDS! WAS: "Drop ETS!" Says ACT Party
On Oct 1, 7:30 pm, "ozobn" <oz...@yyy.com> wrote:
[quote]Rodney Hide MP
September 29 2008
"There is no evidence that CO2 drives climate [ . . . ]
[/quote]
Below is an article of mine that has solid evidence that
CO2 and temperature show a strong relationship over
the last 5 decades.
**********************************
The following quote indicates ZERO CORRELATION between steadily rising
CO2
and the up-down gyrations of average global temperaure.
“From 1870 to 1900, we had global cooling, then we had significant
global warming from about 1910 to 1945.
That global warming is not accompanied by any significant rise in CO2,
so you can’t blame CO2.
Then CO2 increased while we had global cooling.
You can’t blame that on CO2.
It’s only been the last 30 years there’s been correlation between CO2
and global warming”
Dr. Don J. Easterbrook, Professor Emeritus Geology, Western Washington
University
--
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
"I’ve argued time and again that the old trade unionists and CND
lesbians didn’t go away. They just morphed into environmentalists. The
red’s become green but the goals remain the same. And there’s no better
way of achieving those goals than turning the lights out and therefore
winding the clock back to the Stone Age. Only when we’re all eating
leaves under a hammer and sickle will they be happy." Jeremy Clarkson,
BBC Top Gear |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: "Drop ETS!" Says ACT Party |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:09:13 +0200, Peter Muehlbauer
<spamtrap.AT@AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote:
[quote]henry.peregrine.lawson@gmail.com wrote:
ozobn wrote:
Rodney Hide MP
September 29 2008
"There is no evidence that CO2 drives climate
wrong.
Where is your evidence?
or that industrialisation is warming the world.
wrong.
Where is your evidence?
In fact, the evidence is the reverse...
wrong.
Where is your evidence?
Maybe a politician isn>t the best source for facts, bonzo?
Maybe showing us YOUR evidence makes you credible, but you can>t.
[/quote]
I suspect he can. But there>s nothing to be gained by casting pearls
before swine. |
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TomTom
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: "Drop ETS!" Says ACT Party |
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John Baker wrote:
[quote]On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:09:13 +0200, Peter Muehlbauer
spamtrap.AT@AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote:
henry.peregrine.lawson@gmail.com wrote:
ozobn wrote:
Rodney Hide MP
September 29 2008
"There is no evidence that CO2 drives climate
wrong.
Where is your evidence?
or that industrialisation is warming the world.
wrong.
Where is your evidence?
In fact, the evidence is the reverse...
wrong.
Where is your evidence?
Maybe a politician isn>t the best source for facts, bonzo?
Maybe showing us YOUR evidence makes you credible, but you can>t.
I suspect he can. But there>s nothing to be gained by casting pearls
before swine.
[/quote]
There is no need to be so hard on yourself. |
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Ouroboros_Rex
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: A Sane Look At Climate Models |
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ozobn wrote:
[quote]September 6 2008
QUOTE: Christy freely admits that the climate system is so
complicated, and the models used for predicting the future are so
completely inadequate, that we cannot have "confident forecasts to
describe future changes in the types of weather people really care
about"
[/quote]
He>d better, since his own set of data has had to be corrected several
times. lol |
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dolf
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: A Sane Look At Climate Models |
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What>s sane about these user ids?
Ouroboros_Rex <its@casual.com>
ozobn@yyy.com
- dolf
http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/aboutDolf.html
Ouroboros_Rex wrote:
[quote]ozobn wrote:
September 6 2008
QUOTE: Christy freely admits that the climate system is so
complicated, and the models used for predicting the future are so
completely inadequate, that we cannot have "confident forecasts to
describe future changes in the types of weather people really care
about"
He>d better, since his own set of data has had to be corrected several
times. lol
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: AGW Is A Suicidal Conspiracy |
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Go masturbate elsewhere you propagandist dog!
- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/aboutDolf.html
ozobn wrote:
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:04 am Post subject: Re: AGW Is A Suicidal Conspiracy |
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On Oct 2, 12:01 am, "ozobn" <oz...@yyy.com> wrote:
[quote]Dr Zbigniew Jaworowski
The International Energy Agency announced in June that cutting by half
the CO2 emission will cost the world $45 trillion up to 2050, i.e. 1.1%
of the global GNP each year (Kanter, 2008) . For this expenditure one
may expect a trifle climatic effect. Even if a substantial part of
global warming were due to CO2 - and it is not - any control efforts
currently contemplated, including the punctiliously observed Kyoto
protocol, would decrease future temperatures by only 0.02oC, an
undetectable amount (NIPCC, 2008) .
By any simple analysis, cutting world output by 1/2 would not affect[/quote]
even the concentration increase, since the concentration increase was
nearly the same when world output was about 1/2 of what it is.
Pure fraud for politicians and scientists to state that they have any
actual program to reduce CO2 in the air. Kind of like selling the
Brooklyn Bridge. Only they want us to buy the bridge to cooler
climates for a sizable chunk of our overall economy.
The cost to average people will be much more than this. At some point,
this bullshit will hit the fan. At that time the people of the US will
shed the hoaky politicians and scientists who are unable to deal with
the basic facts of their program, and who continue regardless of the
facts or the clear effects their failed attempts to modify the use of
energy will have.
Stalin>s 5 year plans were pure genocide, with an estimated 20-40
million people killed, mainly by starvation. Although it was not the
direct genocide of the Nazis, it was still genocide. The plans to
undermine our use of energy would incur similar genocide. If the
science of the IPCC is shown to be invalid after the fact of any such
genocide, they shall prosecuted for such crimes against humanity for
which they are responsible.
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Krudd the Dud
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:46 am Post subject: Re: AGW Is A Suicidal Conspiracy |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:36:58 GMT, somebody claiming to be dolf
(dolfboek@hotmail.com) sprouted forth in
KM6Fk.2572$sc2.1493@news-server.bigpond.net.au:-
[quote]Go masturbate elsewhere you propagandist dog!
[/quote]
Closest you will ever get to sex, Dolt? |
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Krudd the Dud
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:47 am Post subject: Re: A Sane Look At Climate Models |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:35:25 GMT, somebody claiming to be dolf
(dolfboek@hotmail.com) sprouted forth in
hL6Fk.2571$sc2.140@news-server.bigpond.net.au:-
[quote]What>s sane about these user ids?
[/quote]
dolfboek@hotmail.com
I agree. No sanity there at all. |
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marika
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:56 am Post subject: Re: A Sane Look At Climate Models |
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"dolf" <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hL6Fk.2571$sc2.140@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
[quote]What>s sane about these user ids?
[/quote]
Let>s keep trying to frame it.
mk5000
"We can find new ways of living make playing only logical harm
And we can top the old times, clay-making that nothing else will change.
But she can read, she can read, she can read, she can read, she>s bad
Oh, she>s bad"--obstacle 1, interpol |
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