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Sir Frederick · Guest

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:48:43 -0700, "Rob Dekker" <rob@verific.com> wrote:

[quote]
"The Trucker" <mikcob@verizon.net> wrote in message news:pan.2008.07.28.21.42.22.537285@verizon.net...
The Rod Speed Virus has become quite ubiquitous and its purpose is to
destroy any rational, legitimate, or honest debate among consenting
adults. The virus attacks serious discussions simply inserting offhand
disagreement at paragraph breaks. Every now and then a "real" person
hiding behind the nym of Rob Speed enters the fray and puts some extended
verbiage in place to make the virus seem to be a real person. The proper
actions to deal with the virus are to NEVER respond to it and to closely
edit that to which you do respond (responses of others) so as to trim the
propagation of the virus. It may be necessary to move the discussion to a
new, as yet, un-invaded thread.

Thanks Trucker, I gladly comply with that.

He seems to be a pest across many newsgroups, not just here.

This quote from a .au newsgroup user sums it up nicely :

"He uses the same lines over and over, and will often insult people for no reason. All the attention paid to this moron is what
encourages him to continue being a moron! He>s the sole reason that newsgroups should be moderated..."

I kind of felt bad, since he was the first one I ever called a "dick-head and a retard" because of his random empty statements and
evasive answers without contents, and since he looses context all the time. But not any more. I think "dick-head and a retard" is
right on target.
If anyone has any better description for this guy, let>s hear it.

Rob

Try "criminal".That>s what I repetitively use on such.[/quote]
Hopefully it will increase their self awareness.
I have considered adding links to prison pictures, but that
isn>t real enough.

Bret Cahill · Guest

[quote]Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind the entirely appropriate
The Fucker <mik...@verizon.net> desperately attempted to bullshit its way
out of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
[/quote]
Cite?

Show yer calculations.

Totally huge.

Bret Cahill

Jasvinder · Guest

Hi Habshi,

I have been going through some of the posts specially the one about
"Jab We Met"
I do empathise with you seeing the way you have had to ward of nasty
comments from these nitwits.
I live in India and enjoy those DVD>s and all other legal ones.
But I guess you brought it on yourself when you decided to go and
live with those 1/2 IQ fellows.

On Jun 22, 11:36 am, hab...@anony.com (habshi) wrote:
[quote]excerpt and photo onhttp://www.bostonherald.com/business/technology/general/view.bg?artic...

(1) Comments | Post / Read Comments
Next Article in Technology Coverage:
Planet’s greenest person won’t be a Boston Celtic[/quote]

habshi · Guest

Just as the efficient solar cells funnel the rays with mirrors
towards the collectors , so we should be able to funnel wind towards
the windmills.
What about my flying matteresses ? If they could be stiff
enough and be held at 45 degree angles , they could funnel wind
towards the rotating blades.
So they could be brought and held down when its still , and
when its windy , these mattresses containing a partial vacuum would
fly up the 100 meters to funnel the wind from any direction.

habshi · Guest

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:06:16 -0700 (PDT), Jasvinder
<jasvin_singh@yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote]I have been going through some of the posts specially the one about
"Jab We Met"[/quote]

Jab we met is just about as good and entertaining a Bollywood movie
, the best form of entertainment on the planet , can get . All should
watch it on dvd with english subtitles . You can get it on amazon and
others.

Guest

In sci.physics habshi <habshi@anony.com> wrote:
[quote]Just as the efficient solar cells funnel the rays with mirrors
towards the collectors , so we should be able to funnel wind towards
the windmills.
[/quote]
Every few months or so you drag out the childish wind funnel idea
and are told again it won>t work and why it won>t work.

We already know you are an idiot.

Why do you keep on trying to prove you are an idiot when you>ve
already done so many times over?

Also, mirrors and funnels are two different things.

<remaining idiotic crap snipped>

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

jmfbahciv · Guest

jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
[quote]In sci.physics habshi <habshi@anony.com> wrote:
Just as the efficient solar cells funnel the rays with mirrors
towards the collectors , so we should be able to funnel wind towards
the windmills.

Every few months or so you drag out the childish wind funnel idea
and are told again it won>t work and why it won>t work.

We already know you are an idiot.

Why do you keep on trying to prove you are an idiot when you>ve
already done so many times over?
[/quote]
Because nobody has successfully gotten him to do one experiment;
even a simple fulcrum lab would get him started.

/BAH

Guest

The fantasy crowd now no longer even pretends to have an interest in
tech.

They are always running away from any tech discussion because they
know
they>ll just make a complete fools of themselves.

I saw the exact same thing on misc.legal where some legal beagle
claimed it was possible to get arrested for trespassing on a public
road.

You cannot _find_ people that dumb in real life.

[quote]You cannot _find_ people that dumb in real life.

I don>t know that.
[/quote]
How are you going to know _anything_ if you keep snipping and doding
issues?

Face reality:

It>s irrational to click on a post where you _know_ the poster will
waste your time.

Bret Cahill

tg · Guest

On Jul 31, 12:27 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
[quote]tg wrote:

On Jul 31, 10:02 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
tg wrote:

On Jul 31, 12:58 am, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Show us some stuff you>ve designed.

www.BretCahill.com

Bret Cahill

I think you>ve made your point Bret. It should be easy for any of
these guys to critique your proposal, particularly John Larkin who is
in the coffee processing business.

You are a stupid as you buddy. John>s website is well known on the
electronics newsgroups, but you two can>t find it.

Do either of you ever get ANYTHING right? John owns a electronics
design & manufacturing business in San Francisco. All you idiots do is
spin useless ideas, while John is designing & building things to complex
for your small, lying minds. He is right downtown, and has shown
pictures of his nw business location and new products on another
newsgroup. All you two do is a pathetic troll dance.

What exactly is your problem?

My 'Problem' is the inability to put up with idiots, pretending they
know something.

I>m offering a critique of Bret>s
designs since you guys are obviously not up to it---although T Keating
has at least chimed in with something on topic.

Designs? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are
kidding. Aren>t you? You can>t seriously consider that amateur drivel
as a design. I>ve seen better drawings done in crayon, and stuck to a
refrigerator door by a eight year old.

As for John The Designer, why don>t you stop acting childish and give
the reference? Surely any advertising is good advertising if you have
a worthwhile product.

It>s John>s business and website, not mine. I have no connection
with him or his company, other than exchanging messages on USENET, and
having one of his business cards. I am now disabled, but I did a lot of
work that neither you, nor Bret will ever understand. It included high
voltage, high power RF, and military communications equipment. Do you
or Bret have anything you built in orbit? I do. Have you ever worked
with 5 MW EIRP UHF RF? I have. Have you ever designed & built a
commercial TV station from scratch? I have, including the cooling
system.

[/quote]
In the wonderful world of usenet, this kind of talk is pretty
meaningless. I don>t know if 'did a lot of work' means you did
synthetic design, looked up stuff in tables, or were the guy who put
the last little shiny screws in on the case of that orbital package.
And 'design and build' a tv station is pretty much like what tons of
amateur radio operators have done.

My preference is to 'judge' what people are capable of by having a
discussion about substance. I observe in all these posts one person
who even tried to point out what was wrong with Bret>s design (besides
me), so I can only assume that you guys are bluffing away just like
Bret does.

As for whether what he suggests is a 'design', yes it obviously is.
There>s even the hint of an interesting concept there, which is why it
would be nice to hear from someone more familiar with the details of
'fluidizable' materials.

-tg

[quote] As far as John>s products? Seek and yee shall find. You will see
that he knows what he is doing.

Someone as smart as you claim to be should be able to find it with a
search engine in a couple seconds. All it takes is three words in a
decent search engine.

You are being childish, by demanding someone do everything for you..

--http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account:http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm

Sporadic E is the Earth>s aluminum foil beanie for the 'global warming'
sheep.[/quote]

Michael A. Terrell · Guest

tg wrote:
[quote]
On Jul 31, 10:02 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
tg wrote:

On Jul 31, 12:58 am, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Show us some stuff you>ve designed.

www.BretCahill.com

Bret Cahill

I think you>ve made your point Bret. It should be easy for any of
these guys to critique your proposal, particularly John Larkin who is
in the coffee processing business.

You are a stupid as you buddy. John>s website is well known on the
electronics newsgroups, but you two can>t find it.

Do either of you ever get ANYTHING right? John owns a electronics
design & manufacturing business in San Francisco. All you idiots do is
spin useless ideas, while John is designing & building things to complex
for your small, lying minds. He is right downtown, and has shown
pictures of his nw business location and new products on another
newsgroup. All you two do is a pathetic troll dance.

What exactly is your problem?
[/quote]

My 'Problem' is the inability to put up with idiots, pretending they
know something.

[quote]I>m offering a critique of Bret>s
designs since you guys are obviously not up to it---although T Keating
has at least chimed in with something on topic.
[/quote]

Designs? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are
kidding. Aren>t you? You can>t seriously consider that amateur drivel
as a design. I>ve seen better drawings done in crayon, and stuck to a
refrigerator door by a eight year old.

[quote]As for John The Designer, why don>t you stop acting childish and give
the reference? Surely any advertising is good advertising if you have
a worthwhile product.
[/quote]

It>s John>s business and website, not mine. I have no connection
with him or his company, other than exchanging messages on USENET, and
having one of his business cards. I am now disabled, but I did a lot of
work that neither you, nor Bret will ever understand. It included high
voltage, high power RF, and military communications equipment. Do you
or Bret have anything you built in orbit? I do. Have you ever worked
with 5 MW EIRP UHF RF? I have. Have you ever designed & built a
commercial TV station from scratch? I have, including the cooling
system.

As far as John>s products? Seek and yee shall find. You will see
that he knows what he is doing.

Someone as smart as you claim to be should be able to find it with a
search engine in a couple seconds. All it takes is three words in a
decent search engine.

You are being childish, by demanding someone do everything for you.

--
http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm

Sporadic E is the Earth>s aluminum foil beanie for the 'global warming'
sheep.

Michael A. Terrell · Guest

Bret Cahill wrote:
[quote]
You cannot _find_ people that dumb in real life.
[/quote]

I don>t know that. I have never met you, face to face, but I suspect
you would be the exception that proves the rule.

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sheep.

Michael A. Terrell · Guest

BretCahill@peoplepc.com wrote:
[quote]
On Jul 31, 7:05ï¿½am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:47:38 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:

Literary and artistic creation are easier than engineering creation.

Cite?

Show your calculations.

I suppose that would mean releasing my tax returns, alongside the tax
returns of a bunch of artists.

We all already know you make as much as a rock star.

When are you going to take your moronic ass over to another thread?

I>m bored watching you make a fool of yourself.

---
I find it mildly amusing that you follow that course with such wild
abandon.

JF

ï¿½ ï¿½What else is he going to do?

Well we know _you_ aren>t going to do anything except dodge a
question:

Why are you clicking on posts you know will waste your time?
[/quote]

Simple. I am now 100% disabled and no longer able to go hunting or
fishing, so I stay home and shoot 'trolls in a barrel'. Thanks for
asking, you bullet riddeled troll! :)

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sheep.

Michael Coburn · Guest

On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:16:32 -0700, Dan wrote:

[quote]Rob Dekker wrote:
"Jitney" <jtnospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1e130727-4846-4f76-93df-613dac07bccf@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
It is hard to find statistics on the mortgage crisis, so I>m making an
estimate. There are about 100 million households in the USA, assuming
10% are in default or foreclosure, which I think is a high estimate,
subtracting rentals from the 100 million (if you can refute me from a
credible authority, I would love to be corrected). Ten million divided
into 700 billion works out to $700,000 per distressed property, which
should on the average buy out each property twice. What is happening
to the rest? I think this is a massive raid on the US treasury, with a
threat of a Great Depression if we don>t pay up, and that isn>t even
counting AIG, Countrywide, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and Bear Stearns.
Wall Street is stealing more than the Huns that raided the Roman
Empire, with similar results. And this is not the end. Congress forked
over 25 Billion to the automakers, the airlines are next, and who
then? Ben and Jerries? We are looking at a new Dark Ages.

$700 billion / 10 million = $70,000.

But it seems that there IS something fishy going on.

First of all, housing prices are now back to where they were 3 years
ago, so only sub-prime mortgages closed in the last 3 years would be in
'debt' at this point.
The peak of home prices was some 20% higher then where they are now,
and average US home was around $300,000 at the peak (if I recall
correctly), so we talking about maximum debt of about 20%of $300,000 is
$60,000. This number is definitely on the high side, since it assumes
that everyone bought at the peak of the housing prices (in 2006). The
actual average debt will thus be lower than that, probably around
$30,000.

Second, does anyone know how many of these sub-prime mortgages was
issued ? And what was the total dollar amount ? In 2007, 'only' 1.7
million homes were up for forclosure. In 2006, is was in the range of
400,000. So we are talking about (so far) at most about 2 million
properties.

So it seems that 'so far', there cannot be much more than about $60
billion in debts.

It seems to me that even from that amount, many people will not want to
go to bankruptcy, and will find ways to actuall pay off at least a part
of this debt.
So the 'bad debt' must be even lower...

So what is going on with this $800 billion ?

I>m confused.

Rob

You guys assume this is all about the houses. That is your fundamental
mistake.

Hint: look up the term "leverage."
[/quote]

We guys are trying to take the lying pigs in the government and on the,
so called, NEWS media at their word. You correctly point out and the
arithmetic confirms that there is a lot of lying going on. These dudes
in the "financial industry" (an oxygen moron if there ever was one) all
had a big poker tournament where that $10k in tournament chips (like
Monopoly money) for $25. They played there tournament and some lost and
a few won. Now they want us to buy the chips for real money.

Michael Coburn · Guest

On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:09:24 -0400, Jim wrote:

[quote]Michael Coburn wrote:

Jim wrote:
Bob Brock wrote:

[....]

When they reach two-thirds majority
or a simple majority while controlling the Executive Branch, it will
be time to grab some KY jelly and fasten your seatbelts.

fast track leg-is-lation. since that>s mostly like a dog
indiscriminately lifting it>s leg then yep, we>d best step lightly
and move fast.

Assuming that the Republicans will not be able to steal the elections
again

steal! they bought it fair and square with their special interest
money. LOL

then we will see legislation by the democratically elected
representatives of the people.

you mean representatives of the 'people with money' whose money will
influence legislation.
[/quote]
I suppose I have to agree... I ain>t liking it and that is why I use my
web site for this:

http://GreaterVoice.org/extend

Bhanwara · Guest

On Sep 28, 10:11 pm, Eve-EarthCharterFoundation
<e...@earthcharterfoundation.com> wrote:
[quote]Developed countries have pledged over six billion dollars for the
Climate Investment Funds to develop clean energy and fight climate
change.
[/quote]
All AGW supporters, please line up for your handouts.
No shoving and pushing please, there is plenty
for all who pledge allegiance to AGW, and pledge
to refuse to publicly acknowledge any facts, to
not have any integrity on the issue of AGW, and
to help confuse the issue for the masses.


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