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 Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:23 am Post subject: Thanks chicken farmers, for keeping the price of my eggs che |
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Man, no one loves eggs better than me, and few make a better omelette,
let me tell you. I usually buy the min the 18 pack, and it has stayed
relatively the same price for awhile, despite the recent spike in the
price of gas, and the slower, but still to be worried about increase
in the price of corn.
What do you guys think about the use of some of the corn crop for
biofuels? Just curious.....
I don>t really think it is the direction to go, but I am sure many of
you here have some ideas of your own about that.
Thanks a lot,
"Omelette King" |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Thanks chicken farmers, for keeping the price of my eggs |
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:23:21 -0700, graverobber_69 wrote:
[quote]Man, no one loves eggs better than me, and few make a better omelette,
let me tell you. I usually buy the min the 18 pack, and it has stayed
relatively the same price for awhile, despite the recent spike in the
price of gas, and the slower, but still to be worried about increase in
the price of corn.
What do you guys think about the use of some of the corn crop for
biofuels? Just curious.....
I don>t really think it is the direction to go, but I am sure many of
you here have some ideas of your own about that.
Thanks a lot,
"Omelette King"
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Burning food for fuel doesn>t get my vote.
Alcohol makes much less power when burned in an engine than gasoline.
Put another way, it takes lots more alcohol than gasoline to do work with
an internal combustion engine. E-85 vehicles will have to fuel up more
often or use larger fuel tanks when burning 85% alcohol. It is true that
the 10% alcohol in gasoline that is in common use today actually gives
you less power and poorer mileage than pure gasoine does but the
difference is hard to tell with the seat of the pants. This difference
does exist and it is huge when multiplied by the number of vehicles in
use and the vaste amounts of gasoline sold.
You ever wonder why E-85 and not E-100? Gasoline is used to de-nature
the alcohol so nobody will drink it so ethyl alcohol will always need
some gasoline or diesel in the mix.
In cold winter climates the alcohol in your fuel discourages fuel line
freezing but it makes you vehicle harder to start and you get less heat
from the heater.
Alcohol takes a great deal of fuel to make it. Some say it takes more
fuel to make it than the fuel value that you can get from it. Alcohol
cannot be transported by pipeline due to it absorbing moisture from its
environment so it has to be trucked which costs more fuel. |
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Gordie
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks chicken farmers, for keeping the price of my eggs |
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:23:21 -0700, graverobber_69 wrote:
[quote]Man, no one loves eggs better than me, and few make a better omelette,
let me tell you. I usually buy the min the 18 pack, and it has stayed
relatively the same price for awhile, despite the recent spike in the
price of gas, and the slower, but still to be worried about increase in
the price of corn.
What do you guys think about the use of some of the corn crop for
biofuels? Just curious.....
I don>t really think it is the direction to go, but I am sure many of
you here have some ideas of your own about that.
Thanks a lot,
"Omelette King"
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WOW! Just mention it look what happens.
Not sure how long this will be available online so I used copy&paste to
present it just as I see it on the website of our local newspaper.
" Math on ethanol way off
Thursday, July 24, 2008
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Re: “Federal government invests $25 million in Suncor ethanol plant in
Ontario,” Chronicle-Journal, July 19.
While announcing a $25-million subsidy to Suncor ethanol plant,
parliamentary secretary Guy Lauzon said: “Ethanol can reduce greenhouse
gas emissions by up to 40 per cent”.
He should have said: “Five per cent of our fuel (ethanol) will be
emitting 40 per cent less greenhouse gases for an overall reduction of
TWO per cent.”
Mr Lauzon added: “. . . even when we reach our figure of five-per-cent
ethanol blend, . . . 95 per cent of every crop in this country will still
be used for food”. Way off if we‘re talking about the corn, wheat and
edible oil used to make ethanol. Do the math. Roughly, Canada uses 20
billion gallons of fuel per year. One billion gallons would be ethanol. A
Cornell study says it takes 12 kg of corn to produce a gallon of ethanol.
Using corn only, Canada would need 12 million tonnes while its yearly
output is 8.5 million tons! Expect grain imports from the U.S. and of
course, price hikes.
According to REAP-Canada (Resource Efficient Agricultural Production),
removing enough maize, wheat and edible oil from the food market to meet
the 5-per-cent ethanol target, will increase the annual cost of food for
each Canadian family by $350 to $700. Maybe most of us can stand a hike,
but the 2 billion people living on less than $2 a day can‘t. To the rich
world‘s shame, the world food crisis is not a natural phenomenon.
The federal government has a nine-year plan including $2.3 billion in
subsidies for ethanol plants. Rats!
Pamela Walden-Landry
Montréal ".
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