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don findlay · Guest

As a change from Ed>s highly stimulating and edifying postings on the
entrails of Mars, and since against such momentous findings there
seems to be a dearth of more recreational issues all round, I thought
it would be good to review some of the more frivolous earlier postings
on Earth Expansion. For some reason that>s not at all clear all the
Plate Tectonics wallahs seem to be in retreat, with no answers as to
the likes of how the Himalyas remain resolutely uncrumpled, ..despite
the edicts and pronouncements of the Church of the USGS, NASA, and
other certifiable institutions.
----------------------------------------
Understanding plate motions [This Dynamic Earth, USGS]
"The Himalayan mountain range dramatically demonstrates one of the
most visible and spectacular consequences of plate tectonics. When two
continents meet head-on, neither is subducted because the continental
rocks are relatively light and, like two colliding icebergs, resist
downward motion. Instead, the crust tends to buckle and be pushed
upward or sideways. The collision of India into Asia 50 million years
ago caused the Eurasian Plate to crumple up and override the Indian
Plate."
http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/understanding.html
---------------------------------------
"...Sometimes, when there is a convergent boundary between two
continental plates, subduction cannot occur. Since continental crust
is more bouyant, or less dense, than oceanic crust, one plate does not
easily override the other. Instead, the plates crumple as they plow
into one another, and a very high mountain range is created. This is a
special type of convergent boundary called a collisional boundary. The
Himalayas in India are the result of two continental plates (the Indo-
Australian and Eurasian plates) colliding head on.
http://scign.jpl.nasa.gov/learn/plate4.htm
--------------------------------------------
.... or otherwise keeping their heads low. That being the case I
though we could maybe, ..you know, deal with some of the thornier
issues, This one>s Gerard>s when he was a younger and bouncier old
coot than he is now.
http://tinyurl.com/6rnwf3
It>s nearly a decade after all. That>s ten percent of a hundred
years, ..for Rip van Winkel. And by doing so maybe resurrect some
ghosts. It would seem to be the only way to inject some geology into
this forum other than the likes of "Can anybody tell me please, ..what
size is a stone? And if I post a picture, can somebody tell me what
the hard stuff is made of?"

Guest

On 24 juil, 15:44, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
[quote]As a change from Ed>s highly stimulating and edifying postings on the
entrails of Mars, and since against such momentous findings there
seems to be a dearth of more recreational issues all round, I thought
it would be good to review some of the more frivolous earlier postings
on Earth Expansion. For some reason that>s not at all clear all the
Plate Tectonics wallahs seem to be in retreat, with no answers as to
the likes of how the Himalyas remain resolutely uncrumpled, ..despite
the edicts and pronouncements of the Church of the USGS, NASA, and
other certifiable institutions.
----------------------------------------
Understanding plate motions [This Dynamic Earth, USGS]
"The Himalayan mountain range dramatically demonstrates one of the
most visible and spectacular consequences of plate tectonics. When two
continents meet head-on, neither is subducted because the continental
rocks are relatively light and, like two colliding icebergs, resist
downward motion. Instead, the crust tends to buckle and be pushed
upward or sideways. The collision of India into Asia 50 million years
ago caused the Eurasian Plate to crumple up and override the Indian
Plate."http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/understanding.html
---------------------------------------
"...Sometimes, when there is a convergent boundary between two
continental plates, subduction cannot occur. Since continental crust
is more bouyant, or less dense, than oceanic crust, one plate does not
easily override the other. Instead, the plates crumple as they plow
into one another, and a very high mountain range is created. This is a
special type of convergent boundary called a collisional boundary. The
Himalayas in India are the result of two continental plates (the Indo-
Australian and Eurasian plates) colliding head on.http://scign.jpl.nasa.gov/learn/plate4.htm
--------------------------------------------
... or otherwise keeping their heads low. That being the case I
though we could maybe, ..you know, deal with some of the thornier
issues, This one>s Gerard>s when he was a younger and bouncier old
coot than he is now.http://tinyurl.com/6rnwf3
It>s nearly a decade after all. That>s ten percent of a hundred
years, ..for Rip van Winkel. And by doing so maybe resurrect some
ghosts. It would seem to be the only way to inject some geology into
this forum other than the likes of "Can anybody tell me please, ..what
size is a stone? And if I post a picture, can somebody tell me what
the hard stuff is made of?"
[/quote]
There is an irrefutable logic presiding to their delusion, and just
like the religious faith seen in the regular sectarian churches or the
confidence in the past of the impossibility of steel ship to float, of
heavier than air to fly, of steam locomotive to enter tunnels over 16
mph without passengers' lung bursting etc
all arguments of so-called Geology science are backed with well rooted
certitudes.
There is no way to convince people except Terror or Fervour, and hence
EE, being a local case of Planetary Expansion, will have to wait for
its acceptance for his detractors to die.
... indeed.

Further how would all those Academic fools stand if you would cut the
grass under their feet... they live like the preests, meanesters,
rabbids & mollards etc from the trust Global Ignorance is granting
them. They are completely against the idea of being paid for a real
day>s work.
... indeed

jpturcaud

don findlay · Guest

sir.jeanpaul-turc...@neuf.fr wrote:

[quote]On 24 juil, 15:44, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
As a change from Ed>s highly stimulating and edifying postings on the
entrails of Mars, and since against such momentous findings there
seems to be a dearth of more recreational issues all round, I thought
it would be good to review some of the more frivolous earlier postings
on Earth Expansion. ï¿½For some reason that>s not at all clear all the
Plate Tectonics wallahs seem to be in retreat, ï¿½with no answers as to
the likes of how the Himalyas remain resolutely uncrumpled, ..despite
the edicts and pronouncements of the Church of the USGS, NASA, and
other certifiable institutions.
----------------------------------------
Understanding plate motions [This Dynamic Earth, USGS]
"The Himalayan mountain range dramatically demonstrates one of the
most visible and spectacular consequences of plate tectonics. When two
continents meet head-on, neither is subducted because the continental
rocks are relatively light and, like two colliding icebergs, resist
downward motion. Instead, the crust tends to buckle and be pushed
upward or sideways. The collision of India into Asia 50 million years
ago caused the Eurasian Plate to crumple up and override the Indian
Plate."http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/understanding.html
---------------------------------------
"...Sometimes, when there is a convergent boundary between two
continental plates, subduction cannot occur. Since continental crust
is more bouyant, or less dense, than oceanic crust, one plate does not
easily override the other. Instead, the plates crumple as they plow
into one another, and a very high mountain range is created. This is a
special type of convergent boundary called a collisional boundary. The
Himalayas in India are the result of two continental plates (the Indo-
Australian and Eurasian plates) colliding head on.http://scign.jpl.nasa..gov/learn/plate4.htm
--------------------------------------------
... or otherwise keeping their heads low. ï¿½That being the case I
though we could maybe, ..you know, ï¿½deal with some of the thornier
issues, ï¿½This one>s Gerard>s when he was a younger and bouncier old
coot than he is now.http://tinyurl.com/6rnwf3
It>s nearly a decade after all. ï¿½That>s ten percent of a hundred
years, ..for Rip van Winkel. ï¿½And by doing so maybe resurrect some
ghosts. ï¿½It would seem to be the only way to inject some ï¿½geology into
this forum other than the likes of "Can anybody tell me please, ..what
size is a stone? ï¿½And if I post a picture, can somebody tell me what
the hard stuff is made of?"

There is an irrefutable logic presiding to their delusion, and just
like the religious faith seen in the regular sectarian churches or the
confidence in the past of the impossibility of steel ship to float, of
heavier than air to fly, of steam locomotive to enter tunnels over 16
mph without passengers' lung bursting etc
all arguments of so-called Geology science are backed with well rooted
certitudes.
There is no way to convince people except Terror or Fervour, and hence
EE, being a local case of Planetary Expansion, will have to wait for
its acceptance for his detractors to die.
... indeed.

Further how would all those Academic fools stand if you would cut the
grass under their feet... they live like the preests, meanesters,
rabbids & mollards etc from the trust Global Ignorance is granting
them. They are completely against the idea of being paid for a real
day>s work.
... indeed

jpturcaud
[/quote]
Personally I think it must take considerable physical strength and
mental and moral courage to keep cramming those square pegs into round
holes. I can easily see the likes of Stu on his knees praying for
the strength to keep doing it, and to believe it a worthwhile
enterprise. No normal sane person could withstand all those square
holes for long without some respite. In fact, you really have to
admire them for their courage and commitment, ...doing something they
know to be false for the greater good of the cohorts like George,
whose poor brain could never rise to such feets... That takes real
nobility. I reckon they deserve a Nobel Prize - for courage in
standing up to the deluge - Tsunami even, ..of sheer unmitigated crap.

Guest

On 25 juil, 15:54, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
[quote]sir.jeanpaul-turc...@neuf.fr wrote:
On 24 juil, 15:44, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
As a change from Ed>s highly stimulating and edifying postings on the
entrails of Mars, and since against such momentous findings there
seems to be a dearth of more recreational issues all round, I thought
it would be good to review some of the more frivolous earlier postings
on Earth Expansion. ï¿½For some reason that>s not at all clear all the
Plate Tectonics wallahs seem to be in retreat, ï¿½with no answers as to
the likes of how the Himalyas remain resolutely uncrumpled, ..despite
the edicts and pronouncements of the Church of the USGS, NASA, and
other certifiable institutions.
----------------------------------------
Understanding plate motions [This Dynamic Earth, USGS]
"The Himalayan mountain range dramatically demonstrates one of the
most visible and spectacular consequences of plate tectonics. When two
continents meet head-on, neither is subducted because the continental
rocks are relatively light and, like two colliding icebergs, resist
downward motion. Instead, the crust tends to buckle and be pushed
upward or sideways. The collision of India into Asia 50 million years
ago caused the Eurasian Plate to crumple up and override the Indian
Plate."http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/understanding.html
---------------------------------------
"...Sometimes, when there is a convergent boundary between two
continental plates, subduction cannot occur. Since continental crust
is more bouyant, or less dense, than oceanic crust, one plate does not
easily override the other. Instead, the plates crumple as they plow
into one another, and a very high mountain range is created. This is a
special type of convergent boundary called a collisional boundary. The
Himalayas in India are the result of two continental plates (the Indo-
Australian and Eurasian plates) colliding head on.http://scign.jpl.nasa.gov/learn/plate4.htm
--------------------------------------------
... or otherwise keeping their heads low. ï¿½That being the case I
though we could maybe, ..you know, ï¿½deal with some of the thornier
issues, ï¿½This one>s Gerard>s when he was a younger and bouncier old
coot than he is now.http://tinyurl.com/6rnwf3
It>s nearly a decade after all. ï¿½That>s ten percent of a hundred
years, ..for Rip van Winkel. ï¿½And by doing so maybe resurrect some
ghosts. ï¿½It would seem to be the only way to inject some ï¿½geology into
this forum other than the likes of "Can anybody tell me please, ..what
size is a stone? ï¿½And if I post a picture, can somebody tell me what
the hard stuff is made of?"

There is an irrefutable logic presiding to their delusion, and just
like the religious faith seen in the regular sectarian churches or the
confidence in the past of the impossibility of steel ship to float, of
heavier than air to fly, of steam locomotive to enter tunnels over 16
mph without passengers' lung bursting etc
all arguments of so-called Geology science are backed with well rooted
certitudes.
There is no way to convince people except Terror or Fervour, and hence
EE, being a local case of Planetary Expansion, will have to wait for
its acceptance for his detractors to die.
... indeed.

Further how would all those Academic fools stand if you would cut the
grass under their feet... they live like the preests, meanesters,
rabbids & mollards etc Â from the trust Global Ignorance is granting
them. They are completely against the idea of being paid for a real
day>s work.
... indeed

jpturcaud

Personally I think it must take considerable physical strength and
mental and moral courage to keep cramming those square pegs into round
holes. Â I can easily see the likes of Â Stu on his knees praying for
the strength to keep doing it, and to believe it a worthwhile
enterprise. Â No normal sane person could withstand all those square
holes for long without some respite. Â In fact, you really have to
admire them for their courage and commitment, ...doing something they
know to be false for the greater good of the cohorts like George,
whose poor brain could never rise to such feets... Â That takes real
nobility. Â I reckon they deserve a Nobel Prize - for courage in
standing up to the deluge - Tsunami even, ..of Â sheer unmitigated crap.- Masquer le texte des messages prÃ©cÃ©dents -

- Afficher le texte des messages prÃ©cÃ©dents -
[/quote]
Do you mean they are consciously dishonnest for the sake of their
beliefs, George & all ?

don findlay · Guest

sir.jeanpaul-turc...@neuf.fr wrote:

[quote]
Do you mean they are consciously dishonnest for the sake of their
beliefs, George & all ?
[/quote]
Well, ..I don>t see what other explanation there can be. Except I
would maybe question the word 'belief'. You could say for example
with fair certainty that George is an idiot, that crap is his
preferred diet, and that he won>t shut up whenever common sense is put
in front of him to stop his gurgitations. But they can>t all be like
that - a whole wide wide wide world full of them (though it would seem
so). So what else can they be doing, other than not making waves?
Not 'believing', surely. Stuart for example ducks for cover whenever
a hard question is asked. He never makes any attempt to answer, and
you never see him for weeks. He even got the strap from his boss for
waving his certificate underneath everybody>s collective nose (his
boss>s that is, ..certificate). That>s how much confidence Stuart>s
boss has in his maunderings. What other explanation can there be for
there to be absolutely no acknowledged chink in this Plate Tectonic
'armour', riven though it is with contradictions and nonsenses - and
deceptions like 'Fold Mountains'. They can>t all want Big Wooden
Spoons to hang on their walls, surely.. For Plate Tectonics is just
that - first order scientific kitsch. Just contemplating it offends
ordinary taste - a great big flatulent planet. I mean, is that its
appeal to people? If it had a colour it would a purple and green
with maybe orange spots. tiger stripes. 'The Big Wooden Spoon of the
Earth Sciences.' ( Everybody seems to want one though. Or to know
somebody who has one...)

don findlay · Guest

I mean, ..Gerard, ..where he says:-
"Don>t judge all strines by the expansionists. There is an abundance
of
really gifted geologists at ANU and elsewhere, all of whom quietly
squirm whenever Sam Carey>s disciples get noisy. "

How does he know - 'ANU geologists quietly squirm" ? I>ve never seen
a quietly squirming geologist, ..have you? But he seems to know. He
seems to imply when it comes to Plate Tectonics squirming is the way
to go.

And what does he mean, "abundance of really gifted geologists"?
What>s gifted about not being able to see through the rubbish of Plate
Tectonics? Gifted more like for the synchronised contortions and
gyrations they put forward to support it. That would be more like it:
- synchronised squirmers . The synchronised squirmers of the
ANU. "The S.S. of the ANU."

don findlay · Guest

I>ve got a book here I picked up from a library going broke, because
of television. Preston Cloud>s *Oasis in Space*. 1988. Not *that*
long ago. He>s dead now, ..but he lived through the transition from
continental drift to Plate Tectonics. It>s an interesting read to see
how he squirms his way through the minefield of Earth Expansion. He
doesn>t once mention gravity either as a problem, like Gerard does, as
if gravity, mass and what it is, and how it manages to mix it with
that funny stuff we call "electricity" to exert forces over very long
distances, is all sewn up. And he>s got a doctorate (or I should say
had one since he>s dead now) ( can you take that sort of thing with
you? ..I don>t know) from Yale as well as being a member of the
National Academy of Sciences, the American Philosophical Society, and
having a Penrose Medal from the Geological Society of America. Mind
you the way the USGS carry on about colliding plates and crumple crust
I don>t think that means very much, unless it>s a "Well Done" for the
exhibition of squirming he put on through his life, that helped grease
the pole for others.

Reading it, I reckon he>d be coming out of the closet dressed in Earth
Expansion if he was still around. He>s got big letters on p.167 about
Panthalassa, which he calls THE PHANTOM GLOBAL SEA , and somewhere
asks the very sensible question, .. "How high do the Himalayas have to
be pushed before they start collapsing under their own weight?"

Well, ..I don>t know if it>s really a sensible question or not since
according to plate Tectonics they can only be pushed high if they get
a root pushed under them, and in all this reading about Plate
Tectonics (which is very difficult to sort fact out from fiction) it>s
not easy when you read that stuff about crustal thickening and the
Himalayas, whether there is actually *IS* a thick root or whether it>s
just that according to the numbers there>s supposed to be one. What
we do know is that there is a pretty high grade stack of thrust slices
at the bottom of the pile as the Himalayas collapse over India (Yes
that>s what he says - collapse from the north) and slices of mantle
with them ("ophiolites")

So I reckon he knows perfectly well what>s going on but he>s just
(like Stu) milking the cow by keeping quiet about all this crumpling-
folding nonsense, because it shines a great big spotlight on the
colliding plates thing, and the rubbish that has to be peddled to keep
it afloat. Which is why the USGS and NASA have to keep spruiking it.

But poor Gerard there, .. I think he>s in the dark. I think he
doesn>t have a clue what>s going on here. I think he thinks everybody
else thinks Plate Tectonics is for real.

Well, ..real for sure, ..a real bunch of cowboys.

don findlay · Guest

don findlay wrote:

[quote]I>ve got a book here I picked up from a library going broke, because
of television. Preston Cloud>s *Oasis in Space*. 1988. Not *that*
long ago. He>s dead now, ..but he lived through the transition from
continental drift to Plate Tectonics. It>s an interesting read to see
how he squirms his way through the minefield of Earth Expansion. He
doesn>t once mention gravity either as a problem, like Gerard does, as
if gravity, mass and what it is, and how it manages to mix it with
that funny stuff we call "electricity" to exert forces over very long
distances, is all sewn up. And he>s got a doctorate (or I should say
had one since he>s dead now) ( can you take that sort of thing with
you? ..I don>t know) from Yale as well as being a member of the
National Academy of Sciences, the American Philosophical Society, and
having a Penrose Medal from the Geological Society of America. Mind
you the way the USGS carry on about colliding plates and crumple crust
I don>t think that means very much, unless it>s a "Well Done" for the
exhibition of squirming he put on through his life, that helped grease
the pole for others.

Reading it, I reckon he>d be coming out of the closet dressed in Earth
Expansion if he was still around. He>s got big letters on p.167 about
Panthalassa, which he calls THE PHANTOM GLOBAL SEA , and somewhere
asks the very sensible question, .. "How high do the Himalayas have to
be pushed before they start collapsing under their own weight?"

Well, ..I don>t know if it>s really a sensible question or not since
according to plate Tectonics they can only be pushed high if they get
a root pushed under them, and in all this reading about Plate
Tectonics (which is very difficult to sort fact out from fiction) it>s
not easy when you read that stuff about crustal thickening and the
Himalayas, whether there is actually *IS* a thick root or whether it>s
just that according to the numbers there>s supposed to be one. What
we do know is that there is a pretty high grade stack of thrust slices
at the bottom of the pile as the Himalayas collapse over India (Yes
that>s what he says - collapse from the north) and slices of mantle
with them ("ophiolites")

So I reckon he knows perfectly well what>s going on but he>s just
(like Stu) milking the cow by keeping quiet about all this crumpling-
folding nonsense, because it shines a great big spotlight on the
colliding plates thing, and the rubbish that has to be peddled to keep
it afloat. Which is why the USGS and NASA have to keep spruiking it.

But poor Gerard there, .. I think he>s in the dark. I think he
doesn>t have a clue what>s going on here. I think he thinks everybody
else thinks Plate Tectonics is for real.

Well, ..real for sure, ..a real bunch of cowboys.
[/quote]

Just as an aside here, and talking about Preston Cloud>s book 'Oasis
in space'

, ..I see he uses the word "docking" to describe India>s collision
with Asia, where everybody else seems to be at pains to represent it
as a much more 'muscular' interaction
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/sumo.html
Stuart (when he>s here and talking) also uses that word. Does anybody
know what the source of the use of that word is? I know why they like
to use it, but where did it come from? It *IS* the direct antithesis
of the 'collision' that>s touted.

Guest

On 27 juil, 03:15, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
[quote]don findlay wrote:
I>ve got a book here I picked up from a library going broke, because
of television. Preston Cloud>s *Oasis in Space*. 1988. Not *that*
long ago. He>s dead now, ..but he lived through the transition from
continental drift to Plate Tectonics. It>s an interesting read to see
how he squirms his way through the minefield of Earth Expansion. He
doesn>t once mention gravity either as a problem, like Gerard does, as
if gravity, mass and what it is, and how it manages to mix it with
that funny stuff we call "electricity" to exert forces over very long
distances, is all sewn up. And he>s got a doctorate (or I should say
had one since he>s dead now) ( can you take that sort of thing with
you? ..I don>t know) from Yale as well as being a member of the
National Academy of Sciences, the American Philosophical Society, and
having a Penrose Medal from the Geological Society of America. Mind
you the way the USGS carry on about colliding plates and crumple crust
I don>t think that means very much, unless it>s a "Well Done" for the
exhibition of squirming he put on through his life, that helped grease
the pole for others.

Reading it, I reckon he>d be coming out of the closet dressed in Earth
Expansion if he was still around. He>s got big letters on p.167 about
Panthalassa, which he calls THE PHANTOM GLOBAL SEA , and somewhere
asks the very sensible question, .. "How high do the Himalayas have to
be pushed before they start collapsing under their own weight?"

Well, ..I don>t know if it>s really a sensible question or not since
according to plate Tectonics they can only be pushed high if they get
a root pushed under them, and in all this reading about Plate
Tectonics (which is very difficult to sort fact out from fiction) it>s
not easy when you read that stuff about crustal thickening and the
Himalayas, whether there is actually *IS* a thick root or whether it>s
just that according to the numbers there>s supposed to be one. What
we do know is that there is a pretty high grade stack of thrust slices
at the bottom of the pile as the Himalayas collapse over India (Yes
that>s what he says - collapse from the north) and slices of mantle
with them ("ophiolites")

So I reckon he knows perfectly well what>s going on but he>s just
(like Stu) milking the cow by keeping quiet about all this crumpling-
folding nonsense, because it shines a great big spotlight on the
colliding plates thing, and the rubbish that has to be peddled to keep
it afloat. Which is why the USGS and NASA have to keep spruiking it.

But poor Gerard there, .. I think he>s in the dark. I think he
doesn>t have a clue what>s going on here. I think he thinks everybody
else thinks Plate Tectonics is for real.

Well, ..real for sure, ..a real bunch of cowboys.

Just as an aside here, and talking about Preston Cloud>s book 'Oasis
in space'

, ..I see he uses the word "docking" to describe India>s collision
with Asia, where everybody else seems to be at pains to represent it
as a much more 'muscular' interactionhttp://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/sumo.html
Stuart (when he>s here and talking) also uses that word. Does anybody
know what the source of the use of that word is? I know why they like
to use it, but where did it come from? It *IS* the direct antithesis
of the 'collision' that>s touted.- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

- Afficher le texte des messages précédents -
[/quote]
.. in fact Don, you are addressing a wider issue which is the mental
debility of Universities brainwashed so-called geologists and the
evident incoherence behind their certitudes ! You are further
questioning as a still larger issue the complete absence of a Moral
backbone in all these poor degrees loaded Academic imbeciles, unable
hence in the time lag elapsing from graduation to their graves to
exercice the most elementary intellectual honnesty !

George, Stuart, Landy, Gerard Fryer are examples of short minded, low
vision slow learners who have painfully acquired the necessary data
base to exercise their little occupation, with disproportioned
financial reward in return for their services indeed, all this for the
real reason of maintaining Humanity at large in a grovelling state of
ignorance & in an abject situation where the True History of Mankind &
of the Earth is thrown over the ramparts of the citadel. In the
meantime the Big Bang, Accretions, Evolutions idiocies are maintained
for the obvious benefits of wel known Intellectual Parasites and of
the sectarian religious vermins pulling the strings behind the
stage...
It is evident indeed that the True Geology would reduce to nought the
pretention of divinve knowledge of those fools & of their alleged
divinely inspired so-called prophets...

The dramatic consequences of such state of fact is that the
superstition well noted in Geology extends itself in all disciplines
of life touching indifferently Economy, Medicine, Physics etc with the
very same crude, primitive & materialistic approach leading for
example Australia at large to have 40% of people affected by diabetes,
50% of the population affected by overweight, zillions affected by
cancer etc & still relying on the very same people cashing on their
ignorance for relief !!! See ?

I would say the present Geology is a typical case & demonstration
indeed of Humanity complete degeneracy !!!

... by the way do you know that George is hoocked on over 10 pills a
day for his diabetes, hence his changing mood in phase with his hypo &
hyper glycemic state ! indeed a completely fucked up endocrinal system
as a result of trusting the Dizeaze Industry as he previously trusted
his Masters in Geology during his Universities years See the result
now ? Poor George !

Guest

On 28 juil, 09:07, sir.jean-paul.turc...@neuf.fr wrote:
[quote]On 27 juil, 03:15, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:

don findlay wrote:
I>ve got a book here I picked up from a library going broke, because
of television. Preston Cloud>s *Oasis in Space*. 1988. Not *that*
long ago. He>s dead now, ..but he lived through the transition from
continental drift to Plate Tectonics. It>s an interesting read to see
how he squirms his way through the minefield of Earth Expansion. He
doesn>t once mention gravity either as a problem, like Gerard does, as
if gravity, mass and what it is, and how it manages to mix it with
that funny stuff we call "electricity" to exert forces over very long
distances, is all sewn up. And he>s got a doctorate (or I should say
had one since he>s dead now) ( can you take that sort of thing with
you? ..I don>t know) from Yale as well as being a member of the
National Academy of Sciences, the American Philosophical Society, and
having a Penrose Medal from the Geological Society of America. Mind
you the way the USGS carry on about colliding plates and crumple crust
I don>t think that means very much, unless it>s a "Well Done" for the
exhibition of squirming he put on through his life, that helped grease
the pole for others.

Reading it, I reckon he>d be coming out of the closet dressed in Earth
Expansion if he was still around. He>s got big letters on p.167 about
Panthalassa, which he calls THE PHANTOM GLOBAL SEA , and somewhere
asks the very sensible question, .. "How high do the Himalayas have to
be pushed before they start collapsing under their own weight?"

Well, ..I don>t know if it>s really a sensible question or not since
according to plate Tectonics they can only be pushed high if they get
a root pushed under them, and in all this reading about Plate
Tectonics (which is very difficult to sort fact out from fiction) it>s
not easy when you read that stuff about crustal thickening and the
Himalayas, whether there is actually *IS* a thick root or whether it>s
just that according to the numbers there>s supposed to be one. What
we do know is that there is a pretty high grade stack of thrust slices
at the bottom of the pile as the Himalayas collapse over India (Yes
that>s what he says - collapse from the north) and slices of mantle
with them ("ophiolites")

So I reckon he knows perfectly well what>s going on but he>s just
(like Stu) milking the cow by keeping quiet about all this crumpling-
folding nonsense, because it shines a great big spotlight on the
colliding plates thing, and the rubbish that has to be peddled to keep
it afloat. Which is why the USGS and NASA have to keep spruiking it.

But poor Gerard there, .. I think he>s in the dark. I think he
doesn>t have a clue what>s going on here. I think he thinks everybody
else thinks Plate Tectonics is for real.

Well, ..real for sure, ..a real bunch of cowboys.

Just as an aside here, and talking about Preston Cloud>s book 'Oasis
in space'

, ..I see he uses the word "docking" to describe India>s collision
with Asia, where everybody else seems to be at pains to represent it
as a much more 'muscular' interactionhttp://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/sumo.html
Stuart (when he>s here and talking) also uses that word. Does anybody
know what the source of the use of that word is? I know why they like
to use it, but where did it come from? It *IS* the direct antithesis
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.. in fact Don, you are addressing a wider issue which is the mental
debility of Universities brainwashed so-called geologists and the
evident incoherence behind their certitudes ! You are further
questioning as a still larger issue the complete absence of a Moral
backbone in all these poor degrees loaded Academic imbeciles, unable
hence in the time lag elapsing from graduation to their graves to
exercice the most elementary intellectual honnesty !

George, Stuart, Landy, Gerard Fryer are examples of short minded, low
vision slow learners who have painfully acquired the necessary data
base to exercise their little occupation, with disproportioned
financial reward in return for their services indeed, all this for the
real reason of maintaining Humanity at large in a grovelling state of
ignorance & in an abject situation where the True History of Mankind &
of the Earth is thrown over the ramparts of the citadel. In the
meantime the Big Bang, Accretions, Evolutions idiocies are maintained
for the obvious benefits of wel known Intellectual Parasites and of
the sectarian religious vermins pulling the strings behind the
stage...
It is evident indeed that the True Geology would reduce to nought the
pretention of divinve knowledge of those fools & of their alleged
divinely inspired so-called prophets...

The dramatic consequences of such state of fact is that the
superstition well noted in Geology extends itself in all disciplines
of life touching indifferently Economy, Medicine, Physics etc with the
very same crude, primitive & materialistic approach leading for
example Australia at large to have 40% of people affected by diabetes,
50% of the population affected by overweight, zillions affected by
cancer etc & still relying on the very same people cashing on their
ignorance for relief !!! See ?

I would say the present Geology is a typical case & demonstration
indeed of Humanity complete degeneracy !!!

... by the way do you know that George is hoocked on over 10 pills a
day for his diabetes, hence his changing mood in phase with his hypo &
hyper glycemic state ! indeed a completely fucked up endocrinal system
as a result of trusting the Dizeaze Industry as he previously trusted
his Masters in Geology during his Universities years See the result
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A very sad situation in fact


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