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“Sidereal Horoscopes”
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By
Count Gramalkin
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Western Zodiacal Sidereal Astrologer
San Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology
Spiritual Evolution Self Realization Truth Seeker
1-877-322-7238 Toll Free - Gramalkin@Gramalkin.Com
http://www.countgramalkin.com
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"Contrary To Popular Belief"
v7-15.8
**
Contrary to popular belief one of average ability may learn to be a
great astrologer very quickly rather than requiring years and decades
or a lot of historical reference, astronomical or mathematical study.
*
The historical study of astrology entails sorting through some ninety
percent or more misinformation to prove out the truth and falsehood in
some absolute proof ground of being which has already been done at
least once and is herewith given to you for free and elucidated on
www.CountGramalkin.Com. In fact historical study of astrology may be
more of a hindrance than a help as unlearning and relearning can be
much more difficult to impossible than learning.
*
For example many if not most people infected with seasonal Tropical
astrology who wise up to Sidereal astrology never get free of
attempting to use the Tropical modus operandi in Sidereal astrology
this does not work. E.g. the delineation of a tropical sign is
different that the delineation of the Sidereal constellation of the
same name eTc.
*
Even I in a good workweek teach a gifted student enough astrology to
make them one of the best few hundred astrologers who ever lived the
essence of which is given away on www.gramalkin.com. There is a lot
more to it of course however it will just have to wait for the book.
*
What happens is when astrologers fail to use the correctly produced
horoscope full file baseline format they wind up using the law of
substitution trying to find symbology for the occurring events. Then
its back to the left-handed moon node is in parin trine to the
midpoint between Jupiter and their Uranus eTc nonsense
*
Again people, in the twenty and twenty first century one born in a
subterranean dwelling with zero TV, radio, or pictures or never saw
the sky, planet surface the sun, moon or a star who never even heard
of astronomy, right ascension, declination, horizon, the equatorial
system of measurement et cetera who can add and subtract with a pencil
a set of books and the San Francisco School of sidereal Astrology
Technique of Delineation could be a fabulous astrologer.
*
The cardinal sin of mankind is mistaking the apparent for the real
such as mistaking being a great astronomer, historian or mathematician
with being a great astrologer. It is ok (even good) to know the
astronomy, history, and mathematical side of it however unnecessary in
doing just straight astrology. The people who so famously managed to
hit the comet half a kijillian miles from earth with the space probe
all knew their astronomy however try getting one of them to correctly
delineate ones horoscope. A second nature realization of the Intrinsic
Values of the Planets (the meaning) is the most important thing in
delineation.
*
The zodiac ecliptic is the baseline of the three dimensional model of
our cosmic sphere. Do horoscopes for the location of birth in Sidereal
Zodiacal Longitude Ecliptic with the fixed star Spica at 29 Virgo 6’:
5” Epoch 1977 - Full BIRTH Name, Date, First Breath Time, Place
(Longitude & Latitude), Race, Gender - Geographic, Campanus Table of
Houses, Octoscope and East Point Angles, Arabic Lunar Mansions, Major
Fixed Star Aspects and Constellation Breaks. Porphyry is the second
best house system.
*
The complete file is The Natal; Secondary Progressed Planets and
Primary Angles; Secondary Natal Quotidian (SNQ); Solar Return, Monthly
Solar Return, Lunar Return and their daily Progressed Main Angles also
the Event Chart inner-aspected with the Transits and major Fixed Stars
to all. The natal with two a year, two a month and four a day plus an
event chart which is done for the location of event inner-aspected.
The repeated simultaneous occurrence pattern of illuminated angularity
throughout the file being the most important factor. One copy of each
chart by its self and one copy of each horoscope inter-aspected.
*
So far invariably once one views the correctly done complete
horoscope file baseline repeated pattern of simultaneous occurrence
with the three delineation techniques (Natal, Predictive, Progressed)
with the fixed star Spica at 29 Virgo to see what actually happened
the answer becomes very obvious and major events are so predominant
they can not be missed - every time.
*
Good luck love thank you amen Om,
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Count Gramalkin
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10 000 years
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By
Count Gramalkin
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Western Zodiacal Sidereal Astrologer
San Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology
Spiritual Evolution Self Realization Truth Seeker
1-877-322-7238 Toll Free - Gramalkin@Gramalkin.Com
http://www.countgramalkin.com
*
"Contrary To Popular Belief"
v7-15.8
**
Contrary to popular belief one of average ability may learn to be a
great astrologer very quickly rather than requiring years and decades
or a lot of historical reference, astronomical or mathematical study.
*
The historical study of astrology entails sorting through some ninety
percent or more misinformation to prove out the truth and falsehood in
some absolute proof ground of being which has already been done at
least once and is herewith given to you for free and elucidated on
www.CountGramalkin.Com. In fact historical study of astrology may be
more of a hindrance than a help as unlearning and relearning can be
much more difficult to impossible than learning.
*
For example many if not most people infected with seasonal Tropical
astrology who wise up to Sidereal astrology never get free of
attempting to use the Tropical modus operandi in Sidereal astrology
this does not work. E.g. the delineation of a tropical sign is
different that the delineation of the Sidereal constellation of the
same name eTc.
*
Even I in a good workweek teach a gifted student enough astrology to
make them one of the best few hundred astrologers who ever lived the
essence of which is given away on www.gramalkin.com. There is a lot
more to it of course however it will just have to wait for the book.
*
What happens is when astrologers fail to use the correctly produced
horoscope full file baseline format they wind up using the law of
substitution trying to find symbology for the occurring events. Then
its back to the left-handed moon node is in parin trine to the
midpoint between Jupiter and their Uranus eTc nonsense
*
Again people, in the twenty and twenty first century one born in a
subterranean dwelling with zero TV, radio, or pictures or never saw
the sky, planet surface the sun, moon or a star who never even heard
of astronomy, right ascension, declination, horizon, the equatorial
system of measurement et cetera who can add and subtract with a pencil
a set of books and the San Francisco School of sidereal Astrology
Technique of Delineation could be a fabulous astrologer.
*
The cardinal sin of mankind is mistaking the apparent for the real
such as mistaking being a great astronomer, historian or mathematician
with being a great astrologer. It is ok (even good) to know the
astronomy, history, and mathematical side of it however unnecessary in
doing just straight astrology. The people who so famously managed to
hit the comet half a kijillian miles from earth with the space probe
all knew their astronomy however try getting one of them to correctly
delineate ones horoscope. A second nature realization of the Intrinsic
Values of the Planets (the meaning) is the most important thing in
delineation.
*
The zodiac ecliptic is the baseline of the three dimensional model of
our cosmic sphere. Do horoscopes for the location of birth in Sidereal
Zodiacal Longitude Ecliptic with the fixed star Spica at 29 Virgo 6=92:
5=94 Epoch 1977 - Full BIRTH Name, Date, First Breath Time, Place
(Longitude & Latitude), Race, Gender - Geographic, Campanus Table of
Houses, Octoscope and East Point Angles, Arabic Lunar Mansions, Major
Fixed Star Aspects and Constellation Breaks. Porphyry is the second
best house system.
*
The complete file is The Natal; Secondary Progressed Planets and
Primary Angles; Secondary Natal Quotidian (SNQ); Solar Return, Monthly
Solar Return, Lunar Return and their daily Progressed Main Angles also
the Event Chart inner-aspected with the Transits and major Fixed Stars
to all. The natal with two a year, two a month and four a day plus an
event chart which is done for the location of event inner-aspected.
The repeated simultaneous occurrence pattern of illuminated angularity
throughout the file being the most important factor. One copy of each
chart by its self and one copy of each horoscope inter-aspected.
*
So far invariably once one views the correctly done complete
horoscope file baseline repeated pattern of simultaneous occurrence
with the three delineation techniques (Natal, Predictive, Progressed)
with the fixed star Spica at 29 Virgo to see what actually happened
the answer becomes very obvious and major events are so predominant
they can not be missed - every time.
*
Good luck love thank you amen Om,
*
Count Gramalkin
*
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Please excuse error previous post
What he has left out is 90% of our craft. And contrary to popular[/quote]
opinion, it does take years and you really do have to know the math
and the concepts.
Bert W. Fannin
Western Sidereal Astrologer
Location and Timing Astrology
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:49:08 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
<bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote]On , wrote:
an Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology Technique of
Delineation Learn to Tell ones own Fortune eBooks now given away with zero
spyware spam virus The cumulative research of millions of people over the last
10 000 years
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*
By
Count Gramalkin
*
Western Zodiacal Sidereal Astrologer
San Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology
Spiritual Evolution Self Realization Truth Seeker
1-877-322-7238 Toll Free - Gramalkin@Gramalkin.Com
http://www.countgramalkin.com
*
"Contrary To Popular Belief"
v7-15.8
**
Contrary to popular belief one of average ability may learn to be a
great astrologer very quickly rather than requiring years and decades
or a lot of historical reference, astronomical or mathematical study.
*
The historical study of astrology entails sorting through some ninety
percent or more misinformation to prove out the truth and falsehood in
some absolute proof ground of being which has already been done at
least once and is herewith given to you for free and elucidated on
www.CountGramalkin.Com. In fact historical study of astrology may be
more of a hindrance than a help as unlearning and relearning can be
much more difficult to impossible than learning.
*
For example many if not most people infected with seasonal Tropical
astrology who wise up to Sidereal astrology never get free of
attempting to use the Tropical modus operandi in Sidereal astrology
this does not work. E.g. the delineation of a tropical sign is
different that the delineation of the Sidereal constellation of the
same name eTc.
*
Even I in a good workweek teach a gifted student enough astrology to
make them one of the best few hundred astrologers who ever lived the
essence of which is given away on www.gramalkin.com. There is a lot
more to it of course however it will just have to wait for the book.
*
What happens is when astrologers fail to use the correctly produced
horoscope full file baseline format they wind up using the law of
substitution trying to find symbology for the occurring events. Then
its back to the left-handed moon node is in parin trine to the
midpoint between Jupiter and their Uranus eTc nonsense
*
Again people, in the twenty and twenty first century one born in a
subterranean dwelling with zero TV, radio, or pictures or never saw
the sky, planet surface the sun, moon or a star who never even heard
of astronomy, right ascension, declination, horizon, the equatorial
system of measurement et cetera who can add and subtract with a pencil
a set of books and the San Francisco School of sidereal Astrology
Technique of Delineation could be a fabulous astrologer.
*
The cardinal sin of mankind is mistaking the apparent for the real
such as mistaking being a great astronomer, historian or mathematician
with being a great astrologer. It is ok (even good) to know the
astronomy, history, and mathematical side of it however unnecessary in
doing just straight astrology. The people who so famously managed to
hit the comet half a kijillian miles from earth with the space probe
all knew their astronomy however try getting one of them to correctly
delineate ones horoscope. A second nature realization of the Intrinsic
Values of the Planets (the meaning) is the most important thing in
delineation.
*
The zodiac ecliptic is the baseline of the three dimensional model of
our cosmic sphere. Do horoscopes for the location of birth in Sidereal
Zodiacal Longitude Ecliptic with the fixed star Spica at 29 Virgo 6=92:
5=94 Epoch 1977 - Full BIRTH Name, Date, First Breath Time, Place
(Longitude & Latitude), Race, Gender - Geographic, Campanus Table of
Houses, Octoscope and East Point Angles, Arabic Lunar Mansions, Major
Fixed Star Aspects and Constellation Breaks. Porphyry is the second
best house system.
*
The complete file is The Natal; Secondary Progressed Planets and
Primary Angles; Secondary Natal Quotidian (SNQ); Solar Return, Monthly
Solar Return, Lunar Return and their daily Progressed Main Angles also
the Event Chart inner-aspected with the Transits and major Fixed Stars
to all. The natal with two a year, two a month and four a day plus an
event chart which is done for the location of event inner-aspected.
The repeated simultaneous occurrence pattern of illuminated angularity
throughout the file being the most important factor. One copy of each
chart by its self and one copy of each horoscope inter-aspected.
*
So far invariably once one views the correctly done complete
horoscope file baseline repeated pattern of simultaneous occurrence
with the three delineation techniques (Natal, Predictive, Progressed)
with the fixed star Spica at 29 Virgo to see what actually happened
the answer becomes very obvious and major events are so predominant
they can not be missed - every time.
*
Good luck love thank you amen Om,
*
Count Gramalkin
*
***
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Please excuse error previous post
What he has left out is 90% of our craft. And contrary to popular
opinion, it does take years and you really do have to know the math
and the concepts.
[/quote]
I>ll correct you, Burp
The math isn>t complicated, a 10 year old can work simple geometry
and date corrections calculations with pencil and paper. I did. Even
the best of understanding in the necessary vague and meaningless cold
read techniques to make astrology seem work.
It is only complicated because you try to make it work.
Simply stated, there is no evidence of any provable coupled cause and
effect between any planetary position and events in a persons life.
[quote]Bert W. Fannin
Western Sidereal Astrologer
Location and Timing Astrology
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
www.ltastrology.com
[/quote]
How does it feel to be a second rate con-artist, Burp?
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mariposas rand mair fheal
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In article <9qkh849trurnmp9tqjp6uo22d2i61e4af9@4ax.com>,
Bob Officer <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote:
[quote]What he has left out is 90% of our craft. And contrary to popular
opinion, it does take years and you really do have to know the math
and the concepts.
I>ll correct you, Burp
The math isn>t complicated, a 10 year old can work simple geometry
and date corrections calculations with pencil and paper. I did. Even
the best of understanding in the necessary vague and meaningless cold
read techniques to make astrology seem work.
It is only complicated because you try to make it work.
[/quote]
the math -and- the concepts
the math is easy
the concepts are the show that accompanies the math
and desperately adapts it to make the results appear relevant and prescient
arf meow arf - raggedy ann and andy for president and vice
limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice
then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice
call me desdenova seven seven seven seven seven seven |
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:32:44 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]In article <9qkh849trurnmp9tqjp6uo22d2i61e4af9@4ax.com>,
Bob Officer <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote:
What he has left out is 90% of our craft. And contrary to popular
opinion, it does take years and you really do have to know the math
and the concepts.
I>ll correct you, Burp
The math isn>t complicated, a 10 year old can work simple geometry
and date corrections calculations with pencil and paper. I did. Even
the best of understanding in the necessary vague and meaningless cold
read techniques to make astrology seem work.
It is only complicated because you try to make it work.
the math -and- the concepts
the math is easy
the concepts are the show that accompanies the math
and desperately adapts it to make the results appear relevant and prescient
arf meow arf - raggedy ann and andy for president and vice
limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice
then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice
call me desdenova seven seven seven seven seven seven
Put in the time and effort Butterfly, and spend less time flapping[/quote]
your gums. You will see that mastery of technique comes only with time
and effort. |
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:14:03 -0700, Bob Officer
<bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote:
[quote]On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:49:08 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:
On , wrote:
an Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology Technique of
Delineation Learn to Tell ones own Fortune eBooks now given away with zero
spyware spam virus The cumulative research of millions of people over the last
10 000 years
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By
Count Gramalkin
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Western Zodiacal Sidereal Astrologer
San Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology
Spiritual Evolution Self Realization Truth Seeker
1-877-322-7238 Toll Free - Gramalkin@Gramalkin.Com
http://www.countgramalkin.com
*
"Contrary To Popular Belief"
v7-15.8
**
Contrary to popular belief one of average ability may learn to be a
great astrologer very quickly rather than requiring years and decades
or a lot of historical reference, astronomical or mathematical study.
*
The historical study of astrology entails sorting through some ninety
percent or more misinformation to prove out the truth and falsehood in
some absolute proof ground of being which has already been done at
least once and is herewith given to you for free and elucidated on
www.CountGramalkin.Com. In fact historical study of astrology may be
more of a hindrance than a help as unlearning and relearning can be
much more difficult to impossible than learning.
*
For example many if not most people infected with seasonal Tropical
astrology who wise up to Sidereal astrology never get free of
attempting to use the Tropical modus operandi in Sidereal astrology
this does not work. E.g. the delineation of a tropical sign is
different that the delineation of the Sidereal constellation of the
same name eTc.
*
Even I in a good workweek teach a gifted student enough astrology to
make them one of the best few hundred astrologers who ever lived the
essence of which is given away on www.gramalkin.com. There is a lot
more to it of course however it will just have to wait for the book.
*
What happens is when astrologers fail to use the correctly produced
horoscope full file baseline format they wind up using the law of
substitution trying to find symbology for the occurring events. Then
its back to the left-handed moon node is in parin trine to the
midpoint between Jupiter and their Uranus eTc nonsense
*
Again people, in the twenty and twenty first century one born in a
subterranean dwelling with zero TV, radio, or pictures or never saw
the sky, planet surface the sun, moon or a star who never even heard
of astronomy, right ascension, declination, horizon, the equatorial
system of measurement et cetera who can add and subtract with a pencil
a set of books and the San Francisco School of sidereal Astrology
Technique of Delineation could be a fabulous astrologer.
*
The cardinal sin of mankind is mistaking the apparent for the real
such as mistaking being a great astronomer, historian or mathematician
with being a great astrologer. It is ok (even good) to know the
astronomy, history, and mathematical side of it however unnecessary in
doing just straight astrology. The people who so famously managed to
hit the comet half a kijillian miles from earth with the space probe
all knew their astronomy however try getting one of them to correctly
delineate ones horoscope. A second nature realization of the Intrinsic
Values of the Planets (the meaning) is the most important thing in
delineation.
*
The zodiac ecliptic is the baseline of the three dimensional model of
our cosmic sphere. Do horoscopes for the location of birth in Sidereal
Zodiacal Longitude Ecliptic with the fixed star Spica at 29 Virgo 6=92:
5=94 Epoch 1977 - Full BIRTH Name, Date, First Breath Time, Place
(Longitude & Latitude), Race, Gender - Geographic, Campanus Table of
Houses, Octoscope and East Point Angles, Arabic Lunar Mansions, Major
Fixed Star Aspects and Constellation Breaks. Porphyry is the second
best house system.
*
The complete file is The Natal; Secondary Progressed Planets and
Primary Angles; Secondary Natal Quotidian (SNQ); Solar Return, Monthly
Solar Return, Lunar Return and their daily Progressed Main Angles also
the Event Chart inner-aspected with the Transits and major Fixed Stars
to all. The natal with two a year, two a month and four a day plus an
event chart which is done for the location of event inner-aspected.
The repeated simultaneous occurrence pattern of illuminated angularity
throughout the file being the most important factor. One copy of each
chart by its self and one copy of each horoscope inter-aspected.
*
So far invariably once one views the correctly done complete
horoscope file baseline repeated pattern of simultaneous occurrence
with the three delineation techniques (Natal, Predictive, Progressed)
with the fixed star Spica at 29 Virgo to see what actually happened
the answer becomes very obvious and major events are so predominant
they can not be missed - every time.
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Good luck love thank you amen Om,
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Count Gramalkin
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Please excuse error previous post
What he has left out is 90% of our craft. And contrary to popular
opinion, it does take years and you really do have to know the math
and the concepts.
I>ll correct you, Burp
The math isn>t complicated, a 10 year old can work simple geometry
and date corrections calculations with pencil and paper. I did. Even
the best of understanding in the necessary vague and meaningless cold
read techniques to make astrology seem work.
It is only complicated because you try to make it work.
Simply stated, there is no evidence of any provable coupled cause and
effect between any planetary position and events in a persons life.
Bert W. Fannin
Western Sidereal Astrologer
Location and Timing Astrology
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
www.ltastrology.com
How does it feel to be a second rate con-artist, Burp?
[/quote]
Boob:
What I have learned and what I can do has come about by hard
work and effort. As a non-astrologer, I don>t expect you to be able to
understand that. As for the math, it is spherical
trig, not geometry. The issue is not its difficulty, but rather, its
application to timing and location technique. I think it would be
better if you shut up, until you know what you are talking about.
Bert W. Fannin
Western Sidereal Astrologer
Location and Timing Astrology
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:13:33 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
<bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote]On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:14:03 -0700, Bob Officer
bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:49:08 -0700, in alt.astrology, Bert Fannin
bwfannin@earthlink.net> wrote:
On , wrote:
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San Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology
Spiritual Evolution Self Realization Truth Seeker
1-877-322-7238 Toll Free - Gramalkin@Gramalkin.Com
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"Contrary To Popular Belief"
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Contrary to popular belief one of average ability may learn to be a
great astrologer very quickly rather than requiring years and decades
or a lot of historical reference, astronomical or mathematical study.
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The historical study of astrology entails sorting through some ninety
percent or more misinformation to prove out the truth and falsehood in
some absolute proof ground of being which has already been done at
least once and is herewith given to you for free and elucidated on
www.CountGramalkin.Com. In fact historical study of astrology may be
more of a hindrance than a help as unlearning and relearning can be
much more difficult to impossible than learning.
*
For example many if not most people infected with seasonal Tropical
astrology who wise up to Sidereal astrology never get free of
attempting to use the Tropical modus operandi in Sidereal astrology
this does not work. E.g. the delineation of a tropical sign is
different that the delineation of the Sidereal constellation of the
same name eTc.
*
Even I in a good workweek teach a gifted student enough astrology to
make them one of the best few hundred astrologers who ever lived the
essence of which is given away on www.gramalkin.com. There is a lot
more to it of course however it will just have to wait for the book.
*
What happens is when astrologers fail to use the correctly produced
horoscope full file baseline format they wind up using the law of
substitution trying to find symbology for the occurring events. Then
its back to the left-handed moon node is in parin trine to the
midpoint between Jupiter and their Uranus eTc nonsense
*
Again people, in the twenty and twenty first century one born in a
subterranean dwelling with zero TV, radio, or pictures or never saw
the sky, planet surface the sun, moon or a star who never even heard
of astronomy, right ascension, declination, horizon, the equatorial
system of measurement et cetera who can add and subtract with a pencil
a set of books and the San Francisco School of sidereal Astrology
Technique of Delineation could be a fabulous astrologer.
*
The cardinal sin of mankind is mistaking the apparent for the real
such as mistaking being a great astronomer, historian or mathematician
with being a great astrologer. It is ok (even good) to know the
astronomy, history, and mathematical side of it however unnecessary in
doing just straight astrology. The people who so famously managed to
hit the comet half a kijillian miles from earth with the space probe
all knew their astronomy however try getting one of them to correctly
delineate ones horoscope. A second nature realization of the Intrinsic
Values of the Planets (the meaning) is the most important thing in
delineation.
*
The zodiac ecliptic is the baseline of the three dimensional model of
our cosmic sphere. Do horoscopes for the location of birth in Sidereal
Zodiacal Longitude Ecliptic with the fixed star Spica at 29 Virgo 6=92:
5=94 Epoch 1977 - Full BIRTH Name, Date, First Breath Time, Place
(Longitude & Latitude), Race, Gender - Geographic, Campanus Table of
Houses, Octoscope and East Point Angles, Arabic Lunar Mansions, Major
Fixed Star Aspects and Constellation Breaks. Porphyry is the second
best house system.
*
The complete file is The Natal; Secondary Progressed Planets and
Primary Angles; Secondary Natal Quotidian (SNQ); Solar Return, Monthly
Solar Return, Lunar Return and their daily Progressed Main Angles also
the Event Chart inner-aspected with the Transits and major Fixed Stars
to all. The natal with two a year, two a month and four a day plus an
event chart which is done for the location of event inner-aspected.
The repeated simultaneous occurrence pattern of illuminated angularity
throughout the file being the most important factor. One copy of each
chart by its self and one copy of each horoscope inter-aspected.
*
So far invariably once one views the correctly done complete
horoscope file baseline repeated pattern of simultaneous occurrence
with the three delineation techniques (Natal, Predictive, Progressed)
with the fixed star Spica at 29 Virgo to see what actually happened
the answer becomes very obvious and major events are so predominant
they can not be missed - every time.
*
Good luck love thank you amen Om,
*
Count Gramalkin
*
***
***********
* * * * * * * * * * *
***********
Please excuse error previous post
What he has left out is 90% of our craft. And contrary to popular
opinion, it does take years and you really do have to know the math
and the concepts.
I>ll correct you, Burp
The math isn>t complicated, a 10 year old can work simple geometry
and date corrections calculations with pencil and paper. I did. Even
the best of understanding in the necessary vague and meaningless cold
read techniques to make astrology seem work.
It is only complicated because you try to make it work.
Simply stated, there is no evidence of any provable coupled cause and
effect between any planetary position and events in a persons life.
Bert W. Fannin
Western Sidereal Astrologer
Location and Timing Astrology
bwfannin@ltastrology.com
www.ltastrology.com
How does it feel to be a second rate con-artist, Burp?
Boob:
What I have learned and what I can do has come about by hard
work and effort. As a non-astrologer, I don>t expect you to be able to
understand that. As for the math, it is spherical
trig, not geometry. The issue is not its difficulty, but rather, its
application to timing and location technique. I think it would be
better if you shut up, until you know what you are talking about.
[/quote]
Burp,
Trig is nothing more than advanced geometry...
<some math majors would call calculus even more advanced geometry>
Astrology is shown not to be true by the next step up the math
ladder, Statistics.
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