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don findlay
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 Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject: plateaus and plate tectonics |
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" Plate Tectonics has no answer to the question, what causes the
elevation of vast tracts of the planet to form plateaus. Plateaus are
simply not accommodated in the grand design of Plate Tectonics, ..not
on its horizon. "
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/mountainbldg.html
Written at the peak of the acceptance of the theory of Plate
Tectonics, the 876-page book, THE ENCLYCLOPEDIA OF STRUCTURAL GEOLOGY
AND PLATE TECTONICS. (Seyfert, 1987) has no index entry for the word
'plateau'.
How about that? The highest land form on the planet, it>s mid-level
equivalent as the Steppes of Russia, and it>s subterranean expression
in the plains of the ocean floors, ..and Plate Tectonics has no
explanation for them as landforms to be accommodated within its
theory.
I mean, ..how silly can you get? Instead it busies itself with such
nonsense as mountain building and subduction. Why? To prop up the
notion of convection.
Because that>s all it is folks - a notion, with no support whatsoever,
other than a convenient assumption .
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/subass.html
....that was used in the first place to justify a whole lot of meal
tickets - at your expense - following all that floundering when
Wegener proposed his continental drift theory.
And they still are. The just can>t get their poor wee heids around
the plain simple fact - the crust is pulling apart by the extrusion of
the mantle. And if the mantle was being swallowed at the same time
as this was happening then the ocan floors would never open in the
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Sam Wormley
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:08 am Post subject: Re: plateaus and plate tectonics |
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don findlay wrote:
[quote]" Plate Tectonics has no answer to the question, what causes the
elevation of vast tracts of the planet to form plateaus.
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A Little review for you Don
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics
http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/EOSsokhabi.html |
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oriel36
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: Re: plateaus and plate tectonics |
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On Jul 31, 8:27 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]don findlay wrote:
" Plate Tectonics has no answer to the question, what causes the
elevation of vast tracts of the planet to form plateaus.
A Little review for you Don
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics
http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/EOSsokhabi.html
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The mechanism driving plate motion is differential rotation which also
produces the 40 Km planetary deviation from a perfect sphere.It is
just a matter of borowing principles from rotational stellar dynamics
and apply them in principle to the rotating flexible and viscous
interior of the Earth .
The single mechanism based on geodynamics makes the broad view of
plate dynamics and planetary shape fit together neatly with
differential rotation already established as an observed rotational
principle.
It is one of my favoraite insights Sam arising from the investigation
of the Earth>s motions and its affects |
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don findlay
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: Re: plateaus and plate tectonics |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
[quote]don findlay wrote:
" Plate Tectonics has no answer to the question, what causes the
elevation of vast tracts of the planet to form plateaus.
A Little review for you Don
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics
http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/EOSsokhabi.html
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So what are you saying? That when it comes to crashing bashing and
colliding and crumpling of the crust building the Himalayas you prefer
the authority of the wiki to NASA and the USGS and that clown writing
about sumo wrestlers?
Me too. But that>s not what Plate Tectonics says. Plate Tectonics is
all about crumpling of the crust building mountains
(orogenesis), ..not the passive 'uplift' of the crust (by other crust
that by definition of flotation, cannot subduct).
What have you got to say to that? |
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Thomas Heger
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:27 am Post subject: Re: plateaus and plate tectonics |
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I like the 'growing earth hypothesis and I>m quite sure it is correct. We
could see it in various things and plateaus and mountains are one of them.
In fact I>m thinking about a mechanism enabling the earth to gain mass. The
idea is coming from a model, that would not conserve particles (in number
and kind) under Lorentz transforms. In fact it questions the whole particle
concept. The main problem for such a model as well as the growing earth is,
that it would be a mayor desaster in physics, because a whole bunch of other
models like i.e in chemistry (with pharmacy), biologie, medicine and of
cause particle physics is based on that assupmtion. The model isn>t that far
developed. So I have only vague ideas about the exact mechanism. But the
growing earth would fit into the picture.
thomas heger |
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Florian
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: Re: plateaus and plate tectonics |
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Thomas Heger <tomheg_xxx@web.de> wrote:
[quote]I like the 'growing earth hypothesis and I>m quite sure it is correct. [...]
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Thomas, it is *not* an hypothesis. It is a conclusion based on multiple
observations.
You don>t have to like it or not like it. It is simply a cold scientific
truth, much like planets are round and orbits around stars.
Beside, it is an universal phenomenon affecting planets/moons and
logically stars. Think about the main sequence as the whole path stars
follow during their life from the bottom right to the top left of the
Hertzsprung-Russell diagram.
The fact that matter somewhat accumulates in planet is not a major
disaster at all. On the contrary. This is certainly the missing piece of
the puzzle. And it won>t make any of the current established physics
good for the trash, but it will certainly help to refine and unifiy the
current theories.
--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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George
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:19 am Post subject: Re: plateaus and plate tectonics |
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"Thomas Heger" <tomheg_xxx@web.de> wrote in message
news:g6taor$cng$01$1@news.t-online.com...
[quote]I like the 'growing earth hypothesis and I>m quite sure it is correct. We
could see it in various things and plateaus and mountains are one of them.
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And how does a "growing Earth" explain deep sea trenches?
[quote]In fact I>m thinking about a mechanism enabling the earth to gain mass.
The idea is coming from a model, that would not conserve particles (in
number and kind) under Lorentz transforms. In fact it questions the whole
particle concept. The main problem for such a model as well as the growing
earth is, that it would be a mayor desaster in physics, because a whole
bunch of other models like i.e in chemistry (with pharmacy), biologie,
medicine and of cause particle physics is based on that assupmtion. The
model isn>t that far developed. So I have only vague ideas about the exact
mechanism. But the growing earth would fit into the picture.
thomas heger
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Right, in other words, in order for an expanding Earth to be correct, we
would have to discard all of our laws of physics, and I>m sorry for the
Expanding Earthers but that simply ain>t happening.
George |
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George
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:22 am Post subject: Re: plateaus and plate tectonics |
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"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
news:1ikywyw.2795e917gwcpfN%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net...
[quote]Thomas Heger <tomheg_xxx@web.de> wrote:
I like the 'growing earth hypothesis and I>m quite sure it is correct.
[...]
Thomas, it is *not* an hypothesis. It is a conclusion based on multiple
observations.
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Umm, no it is a conclusion based on ignorance of science and a lot of
knitting of imaginary sweaters.
George |
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Florian
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: Re: plateaus and plate tectonics |
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George <George@george.net> wrote:
[quote]And how does a "growing Earth" explain deep sea trenches?
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Dude, upduction over ocean floor. It was explained to you in details
many times. You should take your daily pills of Aricept Georgie.
You even got references on the subject, like this paper:
<http://www.earth-prints.org/handle/2122/1149>
But you obviously never read them. George Mayhew never read recent
scientific papers. He gets his informations from the web or outdated
books.
[quote]Right, in other words, in order for an expanding Earth to be correct, we
would have to discard all of our laws of physics, and I>m sorry for the
Expanding Earthers but that simply ain>t happening.
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Yet another strawman. Too bad you can>t do better than this to discredit
an elegant theory.
--
Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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Florian
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: Re: plateaus and plate tectonics |
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George <George@george.net> wrote:
[quote]"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
Thomas, it is *not* an hypothesis. It is a conclusion based on multiple
observations.
Umm, no it is a conclusion based on ignorance of science and a lot of
knitting of imaginary sweaters.
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Georgie Mayhew, Earth is not flat, the sun does not orbit around Earth,
and the Earth>s volume did not remain constant over time.
Live with it, or go back to your cave.
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Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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Florian
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: Re: plateaus and plate tectonics |
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Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]Florian wrote:
Thomas, it is *not* an hypothesis. It is a conclusion based on multiple
observations.
The earth is NOT expanding and has essentially constant surface area,
radius and mass.
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Keep repeating your mantra. It won>t make it true.
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Florian
"Toute vérité franchit trois étapes. D>abord elle est ridiculisée.
Ensuite, elle subit une forte opposition. Puis, elle est considérée
comme ayant toujours été une évidence." - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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Sam Wormley
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: Re: plateaus and plate tectonics |
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Florian wrote:
[quote]
Thomas, it is *not* an hypothesis. It is a conclusion based on multiple
observations.
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The earth is NOT expanding and has essentially constant surface area,
radius and mass. |
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