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Shubee
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 Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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What would be the nearest Latin name equivalent for Angry, Censorious
Evolutionist?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/ |
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Starblade Enkai
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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On Oct 2, 8:30 am, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]What would be the nearest Latin name equivalent for Angry, Censorious
Evolutionist?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
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Religion causes blindness. |
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PD
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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On Oct 2, 10:30 am, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]What would be the nearest Latin name equivalent for Angry, Censorious
Evolutionist?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
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It>s funny how you confuse censorship and derision.
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Jens Stueckelberger
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:50:46 -0700, Starblade Enkai wrote:
[quote]On Oct 2, 8:30Â am, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
What would be the nearest Latin name equivalent for Angry, Censorious
Evolutionist?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
Religion causes blindness.
[/quote]
Religion is blindness. |
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Shubee
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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On Oct 2, 12:45 pm, Jens Stueckelberger <JStueckelber...@nowhere.org>
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[quote]On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:50:46 -0700, Starblade Enkai wrote:
On Oct 2, 8:30 am, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
What would be the nearest Latin name equivalent for Angry, Censorious
Evolutionist?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
Religion causes blindness.
Religion is blindness.
[/quote]
Atheism is the belief that there is no God.
"If a religion is defined to be a system of ideas that contains
unprovable statements, then Godel taught us that mathematics is not
only a religion, it is the only religion that can prove itself to be
one." — John Barrow.
"Suppose we loosely define a religion as any discipline whose
foundations rest on an element of faith, irrespective of any element
of reason which may be present. Quantum mechanics for example would be
a religion under this definition. But mathematics would hold the
unique position of being the only branch of theology possessing a
rigorous demonstration of the fact that it should be so classified." —
H. Eves, In Mathematical Circles, Boston: Prindle, Weber and Schmidt,
1969.
Atheism is a religion.
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Shubee
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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On Oct 2, 11:56 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 2, 10:30 am, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
What would be the nearest Latin name equivalent for Angry, Censorious
Evolutionist?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
It>s funny how you confuse censorship and derision.
PD
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The link clearly reveals both censorship and derision. Why can>t you
see that? Has your love for lying morphed into a willful blindness?
Shubee |
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tadchem
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:34 am Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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On Oct 2, 6:54 pm, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
[quote]Atheism is a religion.
I don>t believe it.[/quote]
;-)
Tom Davidson
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Shubee
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:43 am Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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On Oct 2, 12:45 pm, Jens Stueckelberger <JStueckelber...@nowhere.org>
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[quote]On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:50:46 -0700, Starblade Enkai wrote:
On Oct 2, 8:30 am, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
What would be the nearest Latin name equivalent for Angry, Censorious
Evolutionist?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
Religion causes blindness.
Religion is blindness.
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Religion without science is lame, science without religion is blind.
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Alan Morgan
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:27 am Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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In article <2ffc5b66-962a-41ab-9330-db53e917cb16@p59g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
Shubee <e.Shubee@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 2, 12:45=A0pm, Jens Stueckelberger <JStueckelber...@nowhere.org
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:50:46 -0700, Starblade Enkai wrote:
On Oct 2, 8:30=A0am, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
What would be the nearest Latin name equivalent for Angry, Censorious
Evolutionist?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
Religion causes blindness.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Religion is blindness.
Atheism is the belief that there is no God.
[/quote]
Even assuming this is true, is the belief that there is no Santa
Claus a religion? Is the belief that Zeus does not exist a relgion?
Doesn>t that mean that everyone is a member of an infinite number
of religions at the same time? How on Earth am I supposed to keep
track?
[quote]"If a religion is defined to be a system of ideas that contains
unprovable statements, then Godel taught us that mathematics is not
only a religion, it is the only religion that can prove itself to be
one." =97 John Barrow.
"Suppose we loosely define a religion as any discipline whose
foundations rest on an element of faith, irrespective of any element
of reason which may be present. Quantum mechanics for example would be
a religion under this definition. But mathematics would hold the
unique position of being the only branch of theology possessing a
rigorous demonstration of the fact that it should be so classified." =97
H. Eves, In Mathematical Circles, Boston: Prindle, Weber and Schmidt,
1969.
[/quote]
So mathematics both is a religion (and can prove it) and isn>t a
relgion? Neat.
I>m not sure why QM is singled out. All of science relies on
philosophical induction, which is unprovable, so all of science is
a religion. Doesn>t this seem devalue the meaning of the word?
The belief that the Yankees suck contains an element of faith, but
that doesn>t make Red Sox fans the chosen ones.
Alan
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Shubee
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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On Oct 2, 10:27 pm, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:
[quote]In article <2ffc5b66-962a-41ab-9330-db53e917c...@p59g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 2, 12:45=A0pm, Jens Stueckelberger <JStueckelber...@nowhere.org
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:50:46 -0700, Starblade Enkai wrote:
On Oct 2, 8:30=A0am, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
What would be the nearest Latin name equivalent for Angry, Censorious
Evolutionist?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
Religion causes blindness.
Religion is blindness.
Atheism is the belief that there is no God.
Even assuming this is true,
[/quote]
It>s a dictionary definition:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism
[quote]is the belief that there is no Santa
Claus a religion?
[/quote]
According to an article that is hosted on the Fermi National
Accelerator Laboratory website, the Santa Claus conjecture is
consistent with the laws of physics.
http://www.fnal.gov/pub/ferminews/santa/
Unfortunately, I don>t know a precise enough definition of the S Claus
conjecture, or even of the progress made by experimental physicists,
to answer your eternal question with specificity.
[quote]Is the belief that Zeus does not exist a relgion?
[/quote]
Same answer as above.
[quote]"If a religion is defined to be a system of ideas that contains
unprovable statements, then Godel taught us that mathematics is not
only a religion, it is the only religion that can prove itself to be
one." --John Barrow.
"Suppose we loosely define a religion as any discipline whose
foundations rest on an element of faith, irrespective of any element
of reason which may be present. Quantum mechanics for example would be
a religion under this definition. But mathematics would hold the
unique position of being the only branch of theology possessing a
rigorous demonstration of the fact that it should be so classified." --
H. Eves, In Mathematical Circles, Boston: Prindle, Weber and Schmidt,
1969.
So mathematics both is a religion (and can prove it) and isn>t a
relgion?
[/quote]
No. According to the definition, mathematics is a religion. It>s not
the case that mathematics is not a religion.
[quote]I>m not sure why QM is singled out.
[/quote]
I agree that the reference to QM is irrelevant. It would be far more
meaningful to revise that minor defect with the following improvement:
"Suppose we loosely define a religion as any discipline whose
foundations rest on an element of faith, irrespective of any element
of reason which may be present. Atheism, for example, would be a
religion under this definition. But mathematics would hold the unique
position of being the only branch of theology possessing a rigorous
demonstration of the fact that it should be so classified."
[quote]...all of science is a religion.
[/quote]
Quantum mechanics is a religion because it makes predictions which are
virtually impossible to test.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
[quote]Doesn>t this seem devalue the meaning of the word?
[/quote]
It>s axiomatic in David Hilbert>s philosophy of physics that every
theory that is the logical implication of a properly formulated
physical theory is physics.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/physics/Hilbert.htm
I think that>s Hilbert>s definition of physics is brilliant but
virtually all physicists today disagree strongly.
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jerry warner
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:21 am Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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Starblade Enkai wrote:
[quote]On Oct 2, 8:30 am, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
What would be the nearest Latin name equivalent for Angry, Censorious
Evolutionist?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
Religion causes blindness.
[/quote]
beautiful! you could run for VP! |
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Sam Wormley
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:21 am Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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Shubee wrote:
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Atheism is the belief that there is no God.
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Atheist mean non theist... no more no less
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theist
Many people have differing definitions of the words "theist"
and "atheist". Now you have some knowledge of mine which
is obviously different than yours. |
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Androcles
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:21 am Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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"Shubee" <e.Shubee@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2ffc5b66-962a-41ab-9330-db53e917cb16@p59g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 2, 12:45 pm, Jens Stueckelberger <JStueckelber...@nowhere.org>
wrote:
[quote]On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:50:46 -0700, Starblade Enkai wrote:
On Oct 2, 8:30 am, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
What would be the nearest Latin name equivalent for Angry, Censorious
Evolutionist?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
Religion causes blindness.
Religion is blindness.
[/quote]
Atheism is the belief that there is no God.
Atheism is a religion.
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Is zero positive or negative, Shubert?
It>s not positive so it must be negative, right?
Amoral is the belief that there are no mores.
Amorality is a religion.
Shubert would not know the difference between
amoral and immoral. |
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Sam Wormley
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:21 am Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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Shubee wrote:
[quote]On Oct 2, 10:27 pm, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:
In article <2ffc5b66-962a-41ab-9330-db53e917c...@p59g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 2, 12:45=A0pm, Jens Stueckelberger <JStueckelber...@nowhere.org
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:50:46 -0700, Starblade Enkai wrote:
On Oct 2, 8:30=A0am, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
What would be the nearest Latin name equivalent for Angry, Censorious
Evolutionist?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
Religion causes blindness.
Religion is blindness.
Atheism is the belief that there is no God.
Even assuming this is true,
It>s a dictionary definition:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism
is the belief that there is no Santa
Claus a religion?
According to an article that is hosted on the Fermi National
Accelerator Laboratory website, the Santa Claus conjecture is
consistent with the laws of physics.
http://www.fnal.gov/pub/ferminews/santa/
Unfortunately, I don>t know a precise enough definition of the S Claus
conjecture, or even of the progress made by experimental physicists,
to answer your eternal question with specificity.
Is the belief that Zeus does not exist a relgion?
Same answer as above.
"If a religion is defined to be a system of ideas that contains
unprovable statements, then Godel taught us that mathematics is not
only a religion, it is the only religion that can prove itself to be
one." --John Barrow.
"Suppose we loosely define a religion as any discipline whose
foundations rest on an element of faith, irrespective of any element
of reason which may be present. Quantum mechanics for example would be
a religion under this definition. But mathematics would hold the
unique position of being the only branch of theology possessing a
rigorous demonstration of the fact that it should be so classified." --
H. Eves, In Mathematical Circles, Boston: Prindle, Weber and Schmidt,
1969.
So mathematics both is a religion (and can prove it) and isn>t a
relgion?
No. According to the definition, mathematics is a religion. It>s not
the case that mathematics is not a religion.
I>m not sure why QM is singled out.
I agree that the reference to QM is irrelevant. It would be far more
meaningful to revise that minor defect with the following improvement:
"Suppose we loosely define a religion as any discipline whose
foundations rest on an element of faith, irrespective of any element
of reason which may be present. Atheism, for example, would be a
religion under this definition. But mathematics would hold the unique
position of being the only branch of theology possessing a rigorous
demonstration of the fact that it should be so classified."
...all of science is a religion.
Quantum mechanics is a religion because it makes predictions which are
virtually impossible to test.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
Doesn>t this seem devalue the meaning of the word?
It>s axiomatic in David Hilbert>s philosophy of physics that every
theory that is the logical implication of a properly formulated
physical theory is physics.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/physics/Hilbert.htm
I think that>s Hilbert>s definition of physics is brilliant but
virtually all physicists today disagree strongly.
Shubee
[/quote]
Traditional religious faiths have three components: a
shared cosmology (a story of the universe and our place in
it), spirituality (personal response to the numinous), and
liturgy (public expressions of celebration and gratitude,
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Androcles
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:19 am Post subject: Re: New Specie of Ape-Man Discovered, Almost Human |
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"Shubee" <e.Shubee@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c967e588-17df-4f27-861c-6b75d5f3f458@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
[quote]On Oct 2, 10:27 pm, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:
In article
2ffc5b66-962a-41ab-9330-db53e917c...@p59g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 2, 12:45=A0pm, Jens Stueckelberger <JStueckelber...@nowhere.org
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:50:46 -0700, Starblade Enkai wrote:
On Oct 2, 8:30=A0am, Shubee <e.Shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
What would be the nearest Latin name equivalent for Angry,
Censorious
Evolutionist?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/censoriousEvolutionists/
Religion causes blindness.
Religion is blindness.
Atheism is the belief that there is no God.
Even assuming this is true,
It>s a dictionary definition:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism
[/quote]
2. a lack of belief in the existence of God or gods
A lack of belief is not a religion, dork. |
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