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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Multitasking II: How Can We Reconcile Individual Liberti |
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On Jun 27, 5:44 pm, maur...@tpg.com.au (Mauried) wrote:
[quote]Theres absolutely no value whatsoever in some countries implementing
emission trading if others dont ,
[/quote]
Logically speaking -- this is nonsense, isn>t it?
I know the climate scientists are warning about continuing CO2
emissions pushing the world past a "tipping point" -- if we>re not
careful -- that will bring on various disasters.
And clearly, the societies that DO agree to reduce CO2 emissions have
to get those emissions down at least enough to avoid triggering the
"tipping point" -- wherever it is.
But apart from that -- and maybe even if that>s true -- it just makes
no sense to say that if CO2 concentrations are cooking the atmosphere,
we can>t make any difference in how fast it>s cooked by turning down
the heat a little -even if we don>t turn it completely off.
"My wife is trying to poison me by feeding me X amount of arsenic in
my food every day. Well, I could find a way to reduce it to only 1/2
of X every day - but why bother?"
That>s dumb reasoning, if it>s the total dosage that>s going to kill
you.
Reminds me of my Dad when he first realized he had emphysema, after
having smoked two packs of day of unfiltered cigarettes for 50 years.
"I know that smoking got me into this situation," he tried to tell us
kids, "but my thinking is, now I>ve got emphysema already, I may be
able to keep the symptoms down by continuing to smoke."
"NO, DAD!" we yelled at him. And his doctor yelled the same thing.
And he did quit, and lived another ten years.
With your kind of logic, though, the doctor would have said "what the
hell, you can>t eliminate all the tar and nicotine you>ve ever put
into your lungs, so just keep on adding to them."
[quote]You tell me how countries like China and India can be forced to
implement emissions trading.-
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One good way to start might be to reach a GLOBAL TREATY with the
Chinese and Indians, which would mean NEGOTIATING WITH THEM -- and
making concessions on the US side, of course.
Right now, though, a certain number of scumbag propagandists in the
AGW Denialist industry are saying to Americans, "Hey - We should just
keep polluting, because the Chinese and Indians are polluting anyway."
I don>t know this, but I wouldn>t be surprised if some of the SAME
scumbag energy industry PR flacks are meanwhile telling the Chinese
and the Indians,
"Hey - you might as well keep polluting the atmosphere with CO2,
because the Americans will never stop."
"Oh, and by the way -- would you like to buy some coal exports from
the United States and Australia, while you>re at it? Buy some of this
really great stuff that Peabody Energy in the US of BHP Billiton in
Australia has dug up and shipped over to Guanghzhou, to feed your
industrial growth."
I>m not saying that you>re one of the lying, morally contemptible
assholes who>s playing this particular PR game, Mauried, you>re
probably actually a nice guy.
But there are greedy, amoral and hypocritical creeps in the energy
industry who seem to be playing exactly this kind of double-edge game
-- pitting China vs India vs. the USA, and making money from fossil
fuels sales in all three of them -- in order to block a workable AGW
treaty affecting all nations.
And really, Americans as well as Chinese and Indians need to see
through the game, and stop playing it. That will require CO2
reductions on all sides. |
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john fernbach
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Multitasking II: How Can We Reconcile Individual Liberti |
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On Jun 27, 7:57 pm, ri...@tpg.com.au (Rifty) wrote:
[quote]Mauried <maur...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
Even if such a problem exists , there is no point trying to solve it
unless you know for sure that you can.
If that were good advice, we>d still be up in the trees making tropical
jungle noises.
On the other hand, some people LIKE IT up there in the trees making[/quote]
jungle noises.
It>s often easier than having to make compromises with your neighbors
down on the ground. Get down on the ground and start participating in
a human society, and you end up entangled in all kinds of messy mutual
obligations. |
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Hank Kroll
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:14 am Post subject: Re: AGW Blows A Fuse! |
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On Jun 14, 8:01 pm, Steve Thomas <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote:
[quote]On Jun 12, 5:31 pm, "V for Vendicar"
Execute_The_Traitor_In_The_White_Ho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Whata Fool" <wh...@fool.ami> wrote
Could it be that those pushing for fast action don>t realize
just how difficult it is to make major changes at times sooner than
the normal life cycle changes?
And it is that momentum that make change difficult and what makes
RepubliKKKan intransegence criminal.
k00k-a-d00dle-d0000!
[/quote]
Mayby the blind men examining the Elephant theycould agree to back in
time far enough?
My grandchildren>s Time-Life books on the Earth shows that the average
temperature on Earth is 32 degrees F. and it has been so for the last
three million years. All the previous geologic ages when things were
much bigger, the atmospheric pressure was over 100 PSI and plants were
growing at a faster rate laying down coal layers up to 100-feet thick
and limestone layers 12,500-feet thick the average temperature on
Earth was 50 to 60 degrees F. and there were no Ice Ages. During the
Carboniferous the average temperature on Earth was 80 degrees F.
This means we are still in an Ice Age and have been in one for the
last three-million years. Check out the Antarctic Ice Core graphs
dating back close to three million years to confirm this! www.alaskapublishing.com |
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Rifty
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: Re: Multitasking II: How Can We Reconcile Individual Liberti |
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john fernbach <fernbach1948@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]On Jun 27, 7:57 pm, ri...@tpg.com.au (Rifty) wrote:
Mauried <maur...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
Even if such a problem exists , there is no point trying to solve it
unless you know for sure that you can.
If that were good advice, we>d still be up in the trees making tropical
jungle noises.
On the other hand, some people LIKE IT up there in the trees making
jungle noises.
[/quote]
Certainly it has its bucolic appeal....
[quote]
It>s often easier than having to make compromises with your neighbors
down on the ground. Get down on the ground and start participating in
a human society, and you end up entangled in all kinds of messy mutual
obligations.
[/quote]
Up there in the canopy I think you>ll find the ones making jungle noises
are every bit as engaged or entangled in relationships with those around
them and with at least as much stress as those below.
Down here I can retire to my study and ignore 'em. Try doing them up a
tree with 50 howler monkeys! (It>s OK, I get your point.... :))
Rifty
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riftynet - put a dot after rifty |
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Hank Kroll
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: Re: AGW Blows A Fuse! |
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Wrote: on jun 14, 8:01=a0pm, steve thomas <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote:
on jun 14, 8:01=a0pm, steve thomas <misledrks...@aol.com> wro
[quote]On Jun 12, 5:31=A0pm, "V for Vendicar"
Execute_The_Traitor_In_The_White_Ho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Whata Fool" <wh...@fool.ami> wrote
=A0 =A0 =A0Could it be that those pushing for fast action don>t reali=
ze
just how difficult it is to make major changes at times sooner than
the normal life cycle changes?
And it is that momentum that make change difficult and what makes
RepubliKKKan intransegence criminal.
k00k-a-d00dle-d0000!
[/quote]
Enough? mayby theycould agree to back in time far enough? mayby the
elephant theycould agree to back in time far enough? mayby theycould
agree to back in time far enough? mayby the.
Were on earth was 80 degree million the layers 12,500-feet the and
limestone for the earth was on years. check close to 100-feet the at a
fast theric pressure million years up to 100 psi and it haverature were
stillion years. check an ice carboniferous geologic ice core million
years. during thick out three mill threes f. this 32 degrees were
growing.com my growing back the averate last the layers 12,500-feet that
a faster 100 psi and it has been so for the and plants were grand threes
were we ave been so for the and it haverate layers thing this means we
atmosphere graphs dating.com my graphs dating thick close temperage
averature million years. check close temperature we average temperages
f. this! www.alast the averate layers 12,500-feet three much bigger,
threes we atmospheric pressure stillion thick close temperature growing
the earth was overages. check close temperages. during.com my graphs
dating thick and lime-life been the layers up to 100-feet there on
years. all in and it has over 100-feet this means were was 50 to
100-feet the average temperature stillion the previous the antarctic
previous geologic previous geologic previous thick close to the averate
laster rate layers three million earth was 50 to 100 psi an ice age at
threes we ave books on three-million earth shows to 100-feet threes f.
this 32 degrees f. an ice carboniferous to confirm this 32 degree mill
in on earth was overages. check close temperage temperage to coal layers
the andchildren>s time-liferous geologic ages. during the last three
million. |
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Ali Aaltonen
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: Proxad |
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05.06.2008] Ensimmäinen selluloosaetanolitehdas avattiin Yhdysvalloissa
Ensimmäinen selluloosapohjaista etanolia jatkuvatoimisesti valmistava tehdas
aloittanut toimintansa Yhdysvalloissa, kertoo MIT:n Technology Review.
Mittakaavaltaan teollinen koelaitos, joka tuottaa noin 4 200 tonnia eli noin
5 300 kuutiometriä etanolia vuodessa.
*No NII! Ja loppuu se ydinalan rutina siitä, ettei peltobio ole muka
toimivaa. Eli prosessin juju on hyödyntää sellaista peltotuoton osuutta,
joka aiemmin haaskattiin ydintyyliin. Oikein hyvää mainosta siis
bioenergialle tästä maailmanmaineeseen taas!
Kaliforniassa sijaitsevan koetehtaan avasi biotekniikkayhtiö Verenium.
Laitoksen suhteellisen pienestä mittakaavastaan huolimatta sen etu on
jatkuvatoimisuus, mikä antaa mahdollisuuden tutkia prosessia ja arvioida
tuotantokustannuksia paljon tarkemmin kuin tähän asti. Verenium käyttää
etanoliprosessinsa lähtöaineena jätettä, joka jää yli sokeriruo>on varsista
sokeriteollisuudessa. Yhtiö kertoo, että sen hintatavoitteena on tuottaa
etanolia 2 dollarilla gallonalta (3,78 litraa), mikä tarkoittaa noin 35
eurosenttiä litralta.
*Huikeen halpaa, puhdasta, loputtomat riittävyydet vuosituhansiksi
uudisenergiana ja energiapositiivisuus pilvissä.
Mikäli toiminnassa ei ole odottamattomia ongelmia, Verenium aikoo avata
vuoden sisällä suuremman tehtaan. Sen kapasiteetti olisi yhtiön mukaan 60
000 - 90 000 tonnia vuodessa. Tämä tehdas yltäisi kaupalliseen mittakaavaan,
vaikka se onkin huomattavasti pienempi kuin esimerkiksi Neste Oilin
biodiesel-laitos (800 000 tonnia vuodessa), puhumattakaan suurista
öljynjalostamoista, joiden tuotanto on kymmeniä miljoonia tonneja
vuosittain.
Kova kilpailu tulossa
Selluloosaetanolista toivotaan parempaa vaihtoehtoa kasviöljy-, tärkkelys-
ja sokeripohjaisille biopolttonesteille, sillä sen tuotanto ei kuluta
ruokakasveja. Mikäli raaka-aineena käytetään maatalouden ja
elintarviketeollisuuden jätettä, ei selluloosapohjaisten polttonesteiden
tuotantoa varten tarvitse kuluttaa edes peltopinta-alaa.
Selluloosaetanoliprosessi koostuu samankaltaisista osista kuin
maissietanolin valmistus:
*Maissilla siis "harjoiteltiin" tähän suuntaan, kuten nyt huomaamme käyvän.
Ja ydinalaa jurppii siirana, toki!
polysakkaridien pilkkomisesta monosakkarideiksi, näiden käyttämisestä
etanoliksi sekä tuoteliemen tislauksesta. Olennainen ero on se, että
selluloosan hajottaminen on paljon hankalampaa kuin tärkkelyksen. Technology
Review>n mukaan Vereniumin prosessi hajottaa hemiselluloosan
happokäsittelyllä ja selluloosan entsyymien ja bakteerien yhteistyöllä.
Käyttämistä varten prosessissa on kaksi eri bakteerilajia, E. coli ja
Klebsiella oxytoca.
Vaikka Verenium sai koetehtaan pystyyn ensimmäisenä, se on saamassa
kilpailijoita hyvin pian. Yhdysvaltain energiaministeriö tukee tällä
hetkellä yli kymmentä saman alan hanketta. Tuet liittyvät Yhdysvalloissa
viime vuonna hyväksyttyyn, uusiutuvia polttoaineita koskevaan asetukseen.
Sen mukaan jo vuonna 2010 maanlaajuisen selluloosaetanolin tuotannon tulisi
yltää 300 000 tonniin vuodessa. Vuoteen 2022 määritelty suurempi tavoite on
miltei 50 miljoonaa tonnia vuodessa.
Aiemmin verkkopalvelussa Dupont ja Danisco ryhtyvät valmistamaan
selluloosaetanolia [15.05.2008] » |
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Whata Fool
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"0ZNB0" <0ZNB0@do00od00.com> wrote:
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"Earl Evleth" <evleth@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:C48D24C0.12E24E%evleth@wanadoo.fr...
BANGLADESH: Early monsoon floods "point to climate change"
DEJA VU
Yeh right, we>ve heard all this before!!
This is a partial list of the tropical cyclones in Bangladesh or the
historical region of Bengal in general. Some of the years and dates may
be slightly incorrect. Most of the figures have been taken from
Banglapedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bangladesh_tropical_cyclones#Historical_records_of_tropical_cyclones_made_landfall_at_the_Bangladesh_Coast
11.16.2007 6:19 AM
Bangladesh: A History of Deadly Cyclones
131 Years, 80 Cyclones and 200 Million Dead
http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/bangladesh-cyclone-47111603
In 131 years, Bangladesh has lost 200 million people to 80 cyclones,
according to a tally by Chinese state-run media. (The territory now
called Bangladesh has held different names during that time, including
East Pakistan.)
[/quote]
Gee, I hope Global Warming doesn>t cause them any bad weather. |
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"Earl Evleth" <evleth@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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[quote]According to the climate deniers, nothing unusual is happening.
******
Monsoon is here breaking 108-year-old record
Photo: V.V. Krishnan.
[/quote]
WOT????
No all-time record?
So it>s nothing new then!
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
"The correlation between Earth>s temperatures and CO2 is only at the
"accidental" level -22 percent and declining sharply over the past
decade as the temperatures have refused to increase with the CO2
levels." Dr Arthur Robinson, Director, Oregon Institute For Science And
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:18 am Post subject: Re: Monsoon is breaking 108-year-old record in Delhi BUT N |
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"Earl Evleth" <evleth@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:C48D1177.12E23A%evleth@wanadoo.fr...
[quote]According to the climate deniers, nothing unusual is happening.
******
Monsoon is here breaking 108-year-old record
Photo: V.V. Krishnan.
[/quote]
WOT????
No all-time record?
So it>s nothing new then!
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
"The correlation between Earth>s temperatures and CO2 is only at the
"accidental" level -22 percent and declining sharply over the past
decade as the temperatures have refused to increase with the CO2
levels." Dr Arthur Robinson, Director, Oregon Institute For Science And
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:18 am Post subject: Re: DEJA VU BANGLADESH: Early monsoon floods "DON>T point to |
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"Earl Evleth" <evleth@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:C48D24C0.12E24E%evleth@wanadoo.fr...
[quote]BANGLADESH: Early monsoon floods "point to climate change"
[/quote]
DEJA VU
Yeh right, we>ve heard all this before!!
This is a partial list of the tropical cyclones in Bangladesh or the
historical region of Bengal in general. Some of the years and dates may
be slightly incorrect. Most of the figures have been taken from
Banglapedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bangladesh_tropical_cyclones#Historical_records_of_tropical_cyclones_made_landfall_at_the_Bangladesh_Coast
1584: A five-hour hurricane and thunderstorm destroyed houses and boats
in the coast near Bakerganj (presently in Barisal) and Patuakhali). Only
Hindu temples with a strong foundation were spared. Total casualty:
about 200,000.
1585: A tropical storm hit the eastern side of Bakerganj (now Barisal)
near the mouth of the Meghna River estuary, causing devastation of
crops. Casualty: unknown.
November 1797: A severe cyclone destroyed most of the houses in the
Chittagong) region. Two ships sank in Chittagong Port.
May 1822: A cyclone, accompanied by storm surge and tidal bores hit
Barisal, Hatiya Island and Noakhali. Casualty: 40,000 people.
October 1831 Barisal: Casualty: unknown.
October 1872: A cyclone hit Cox>s Bazar. Casualty: unknown.
31 October 1876: A cyclone with a storm-surge of 12.2 metres (40 ft) hit
Meghna River estuary near Chittagong, Barisal, and Noakhali. Casualty:
about 200,000. The storm also caused epidemic and famine, and vast
property damage.
24 October 1897 Chittagong: A tropical cyclone accompanied by storm
surge hit the area hard, especially near the Kutubdia island. Casualty:
14,000. The resulting epidemic of Cholera killed another 18,000.
May 1898 Teknaf: Tropical cyclone with storm surge. Casualty: unknown.
November 1904 Sonadia: cyclonic storm; 143 killed and fishing fleet
wrecked.
16 October 1909 Khulna: A tropical cyclone accompanied by storm surge.
Casualty: 698 people and 70,654 cattle.
October 1913 Muktagachha upazila (Mymensingh District): A tropical
cyclone, having moved inland destroyed villages. Casualty: 500 people.
24 September 1917 Khulna. A tropical cyclone. Casualty: 432 people and
28,029 cattle.
May 1941: A cyclonic storm accompanied by storm-surge hit Eastern Meghna
River estuary. Casualty: unknown.
October, 1942: A severe cyclonic storm hit The Sundarbans. Casualty:
unknown.
17 May-19 May1948: A cyclonic storm hit the deltan between Chittagong
and Noakhali. Casualty: approximately 1,200 people and 20,000 cattle.
16 May-19 May 1958: A cyclonic storm accompanied by storm surge hit east
and west Meghna River estuary, east of Barisal and Noakhali. Casualty:
870 people and 14,500. Also standing crops were destroyed.
21 October-24 October 1958: A cyclonic storm struck Chittagong coast.
Effect: Approx. 100,000 families were rendered homeless.
9 October-10 October 1960: A severe cyclonic storm hit Eastern Meghna
River estuary near Noakhali, Bakerganj, Faridpur and Patuakhali. The
storm had wind speeds of up to 201 km/hour. The maximum storm surge was
3.05 metres. It caused devastating damage in Char Jabbar, Char Amina,
Char Bhatia, Ramgati, Hatiya and Noakhali. Casualty: 3,000 people. Other
effects: 62,725 houses destroyed. Crops on 94,000 acres (380 km²) of
land were destroyed.
30 October-31 October 1960: A severe cyclonic storm hit Chittagong,
Noakhali, Bakerganj, Faridpur, Patuakhali and eastern Meghna estuary,
with winds speed up to 210 km/h. The storm surge reached a height of
4.5-6.1 m. Casualty: about 10,000 people, 27,793 cattle . Losses:
568,161 houses destroyed (including 70% houses in Hatiya). Also, two
large ocean-going ships ran aground in the shore, and 5-7 vessels
capsized in Karnaphuli River.
9 May 1961: A severe cyclonic storm hit Bagerhat and Khulna. It had wind
speeds of up to 161 km/h. The storm surge reached 2.44-3.05 m. Casualty:
11,468 people (mostly in Char Alexander), 25,000 cattle. Damages: The
railway tracks between Noakhali and Harinarayanpur were damaged.
26 October-30 October 1962: A severe cyclone hit Feni. Maximum windspeed
was 161 km/h. The storm surge was 2.5-3.0 m. Casualty: about 1,000
people, many domestic cattle.
28 May - 29 May 1963: A severe cyclonic storm devastated Chittagong,
Noakhali, Cox>s Bazar and coastal islands of Sandwip, Kutubdia, Hatiya
and Maheshkhali. The storm surge reached 4.3-5.2 m in Chittagong.
Maximum windspeed was up to 203 km/h and at Cox>s Bazar 164 km/h.
Casualty: 11,520 people, 32,617 cattle. Damages: 376,332 houses, 4,787
boats, and standing crops.
11 May - 12 May 1965: A strong cyclone hit Barisal and Bakerganj. The
windspeed reached a maximum of 162 km/h. The storm surge was 3.7 m.
Casualty:19,279 people (out of that, 16,456 in Barisal).
14 December - 15 December 1965: A strong cyclone hit the coast near
Cox>s Bazar and Patuakhali. The storm surge rose up to 4.7-6.1 m. The
windspeed was up to 210 km/h in Cox>s Bazar. Casualty" 873 people.
Damage: 40,000 salt beds destroyed.
1 October 1966: A cyclone hit Sandwip, Bakerganj, Khulna, Chittagong,
Noakhali and Comilla. Maximum strong surge was 4.7-9.1 m. The maximum
wind speed was 146 km/h. Total people affected: 1.5 million people.
Casualty: 850 people, 65,000 cattle.
13 November-13 November: The 1970 Bhola cyclone hit the entire coast of
Bangladesh (then East Pakistan). Most affected were Chittagong, Barguna,
Khepupara, Patuakhali, north of Char Burhanuddin, Char Tazumuddin and
south of Maijdi, Haringhata. The official death toll was 500,000 but the
number is likely to be higher. Damages include destruction of
approximately 20,000 fishing boats, and also property and crops. Total
loss of cattle reached more than one million. More than 400,000 houses
and 3,500 educational institutions were destroyed. Maximum windspeed
reached about 222 km/h. Maximum storm surge was about 10.6 m.
5 November - 6 November 1971: A cyclone hit coastal areas of Chittagong.
28 November-30 November 1971: A cyclonic storm hit the coast near the
Sundarbans. Maximum wind speed was 97-113 km/h. The storm surge reached
1 m. Low lying areas of Khulna town inundated.
6 December-9 December 1973: The coastal areas near the Sundarbans were
hit by a cyclone, accompanied by storm surge. Coastal areas near
Patuakhali and nearby islands were submerged under the tidal bore.
13 August-15 August 1974: A cyclonic storm hit Khulna. Maximum wind
speed reached 80.5 km/h. Casualty:600 people.
24 November - 28 November 1974: A cyclone struck the coastal areas near
Cox>s Bazar and Chittagong, including the offshore islands. Maximum wind
speed reached 161 km/h. The storm surge was up to 2.8-5.2 m. Casualty:
200 people, 1000 cattle. Damages: 2,300 houses destroyed.
9 May- 12 May 1975: A strong cyclone pummeled Bhola, Cox>s Bazar and
Khulna. Maximum wind speed was 96.5 to 112.6 km/h. Casualty: 5 people.
9 May-12 May 1977: Khulna, Noakhali, Patuakhali, Barisal, Chittagong and
offshore islands were hit by a cyclone. Maximum wind speed was up to
112.63 km/h.
14 October-15 October 1983: A strong cyclone hit the coastal islands and
chars near Chittagong and Noakhali. Maximum wind speed reached 122 km/h:
Casualty: 43 people. 6 fishing boats and a trawler lost, more than 150
fishermen and 100 fishing boats went missing Damages: 20% of the aman
rice crops in the affected regions were destroyed.
5 November-9 November 1983: A cyclone hit Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar coast
near Kutubdia, St Martin>s Island, Teknaf, Ukhia, Moipong, Sonadia,
Barisal, Patuakhali and Noakhali. The maximum wind speed reached 136
km/h. The storm surge was 1.52 m. Casualty:300 fishermen with 50 boats
missing. Damages:2,000 houses destroyed.
24 May-25 May 1985: A severe cyclone hit Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar,
Noakhali and coastal islands (Sandwip, Hatiya, and Urirchar). Maximum
wind speed at Chittagong was 154 km/h, at Sandwip was 140 km/h, at Cox>s
Bazar was 100 km/h. The storm surge reached a height of 3.0-4.6 m.
Casualty:11,069 people, 135,033 cattle. Damages: 94,379 houses and 74 km
of road, and embankments destroyed.
8 November-9 November 1986: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal
island and chars near Chittagong, Barisal, Patuakhali and Noakhali.
Maximum windspeed was 110 km/h at Chittagong and 90 km/h at Khulna.
Casualty: 14 people. Damages: 972 km² of paddy fields were inundated;
Schools, mosques, warehouses, hospitals, houses and buildings were
destroyed at Amtali upazila in Barguna District.
24 November-30 November 1988: A severe cyclonig storm struck Jessore,
Kushtia, Faridpur and coastal islands of Barisal and Khulna. The maximum
windspeed was 162 km/h. The storm was accompanied by a storm surge of
4.5 m at Mongla Port. Casualty: 5,708 people, and numerous wild animals
at The Sundarbans (deer 15,000, Royal Bengal Tiger 9), cattle 65,000.
Total damage to crops reached Taka] 9.41 billion.
29 April-30 April 1991: The 1991 Bangladesh cyclone hit Bangladesh late
29 April night. The storm originated in the Pacific Ocean and reached
the Bay of Bengal coast after 20 days. The diameter of the storm was
close to 600 km. The maximum wind speed (observed at Sandwip) reached
225 km/h. At other places, the maximum wind speed was reported as
follows: Chittagong 160 km/h, Khepupara (Kalapara) 180 km/h, Kutubdia
180 km/h, Cox>s Bazar 185 km/h, and Bhola 178 km/h. (The NOAA-11
satellite estimated the maximum wind speed to be about 240 km/h at 1.38
pm on 29 April). The storm made landfall near the coast north of
Chittagong port during the night of the 29th April. The maximum storm
surge height reached about 5 to 8 m. Casualty: 150,000 people, 70,000
cattle. Damages: loss of property was estimated at about Tk 60 billion.
31 May-2 June 1991: A cyclone hit the coastal islands and chars near
Patuakhali, Barisal, Noakhali and Chittagong. Maximum wind speed reachd
110 km/h. The storm surge was 1.9 m.
29 April-3 May 1994: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal islands
near Cox>s Bazar. Maximum windspeed reached 210 km/h. Casualty: 400
people, 8,000 cattle.
21 November-25 November 1995: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal
islands near Cox>s Bazar. The maximum wind speed was up to 210 km/h.
Casualty: 650 people, 17,000 cattle.
16 May-19 May 1997: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal islands and
chars near Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar, Noakhali and Bhola districts. The
maximum wind speed was 225 km/hour, and the storm surge reached 3.05
metres. Casualty: 126 people.
25 September-27 September 1997: A severe cyclonic storm hit coastal
islands near Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar, Noakhali and Bhola. It had wind
speeds of up to 150 km/hour, and a storm surge of 1.83 to 3.05 metres.
16 May-20 May 1998 A severe cyclonic storm with windspeed of 150 km/hour
struck coastal islands near Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar, and Noakhali. The
storm surge was from 1.83 to 2.44 metres.
19 November-22 November 1998: A cyclonic storm, with wind speeds up to
90 km/hour, and a storm surge of 1.22 to 2.44 metres. hit coastal
islands and sand shoals near Khulna, Barisal, and Patuakhali.
November 15, 2007: Cyclone Sidr makes landfall on southern Bangladesh,
causing over 2,000 deaths and severe damage
11.16.2007 6:19 AM
Bangladesh: A History of Deadly Cyclones
131 Years, 80 Cyclones and 200 Million Dead
http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/bangladesh-cyclone-47111603
In 131 years, Bangladesh has lost 200 million people to 80 cyclones,
according to a tally by Chinese state-run media. (The territory now
called Bangladesh has held different names during that time, including
East Pakistan.)
A separate tally has it that nine of the world>s 13 deadliest hurricanes
have struck in the Bay of Bengal, which borders India and Bangladesh.
The toll from Cyclone Sidr, which made landfall as a Category 4
hurricane Nov. 15, is still being tallied. Bangladesh is among the most
vulnerable nations for storms of this kind, due to the ease with which
low-lying areas flood, and its densely populated coastline.
Here>s a look at some of the five most deadly storms to have struck,
according to figures from the Xinhua General News Service report and
elsewhere:
Nov. 1, 1876 - About 200,000 people died.
Nov. 12, 1970 - Up to 500,000 people died.
May 24, 1985 - 11,000 people died.
April 29, 1991 - 140,000 peole died.
Nov. 29, 1997 - 150,000 people died.
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[quote]BANGLADESH: Early monsoon floods "point to climate change"
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DEJA VU
Yeh right, we>ve heard all this before!!
This is a partial list of the tropical cyclones in Bangladesh or the
historical region of Bengal in general. Some of the years and dates may
be slightly incorrect. Most of the figures have been taken from
Banglapedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bangladesh_tropical_cyclones#Historical_records_of_tropical_cyclones_made_landfall_at_the_Bangladesh_Coast
1584: A five-hour hurricane and thunderstorm destroyed houses and boats
in the coast near Bakerganj (presently in Barisal) and Patuakhali). Only
Hindu temples with a strong foundation were spared. Total casualty:
about 200,000.
1585: A tropical storm hit the eastern side of Bakerganj (now Barisal)
near the mouth of the Meghna River estuary, causing devastation of
crops. Casualty: unknown.
November 1797: A severe cyclone destroyed most of the houses in the
Chittagong) region. Two ships sank in Chittagong Port.
May 1822: A cyclone, accompanied by storm surge and tidal bores hit
Barisal, Hatiya Island and Noakhali. Casualty: 40,000 people.
October 1831 Barisal: Casualty: unknown.
October 1872: A cyclone hit Cox>s Bazar. Casualty: unknown.
31 October 1876: A cyclone with a storm-surge of 12.2 metres (40 ft) hit
Meghna River estuary near Chittagong, Barisal, and Noakhali. Casualty:
about 200,000. The storm also caused epidemic and famine, and vast
property damage.
24 October 1897 Chittagong: A tropical cyclone accompanied by storm
surge hit the area hard, especially near the Kutubdia island. Casualty:
14,000. The resulting epidemic of Cholera killed another 18,000.
May 1898 Teknaf: Tropical cyclone with storm surge. Casualty: unknown.
November 1904 Sonadia: cyclonic storm; 143 killed and fishing fleet
wrecked.
16 October 1909 Khulna: A tropical cyclone accompanied by storm surge.
Casualty: 698 people and 70,654 cattle.
October 1913 Muktagachha upazila (Mymensingh District): A tropical
cyclone, having moved inland destroyed villages. Casualty: 500 people.
24 September 1917 Khulna. A tropical cyclone. Casualty: 432 people and
28,029 cattle.
May 1941: A cyclonic storm accompanied by storm-surge hit Eastern Meghna
River estuary. Casualty: unknown.
October, 1942: A severe cyclonic storm hit The Sundarbans. Casualty:
unknown.
17 May-19 May1948: A cyclonic storm hit the deltan between Chittagong
and Noakhali. Casualty: approximately 1,200 people and 20,000 cattle.
16 May-19 May 1958: A cyclonic storm accompanied by storm surge hit east
and west Meghna River estuary, east of Barisal and Noakhali. Casualty:
870 people and 14,500. Also standing crops were destroyed.
21 October-24 October 1958: A cyclonic storm struck Chittagong coast.
Effect: Approx. 100,000 families were rendered homeless.
9 October-10 October 1960: A severe cyclonic storm hit Eastern Meghna
River estuary near Noakhali, Bakerganj, Faridpur and Patuakhali. The
storm had wind speeds of up to 201 km/hour. The maximum storm surge was
3.05 metres. It caused devastating damage in Char Jabbar, Char Amina,
Char Bhatia, Ramgati, Hatiya and Noakhali. Casualty: 3,000 people. Other
effects: 62,725 houses destroyed. Crops on 94,000 acres (380 km²) of
land were destroyed.
30 October-31 October 1960: A severe cyclonic storm hit Chittagong,
Noakhali, Bakerganj, Faridpur, Patuakhali and eastern Meghna estuary,
with winds speed up to 210 km/h. The storm surge reached a height of
4.5-6.1 m. Casualty: about 10,000 people, 27,793 cattle . Losses:
568,161 houses destroyed (including 70% houses in Hatiya). Also, two
large ocean-going ships ran aground in the shore, and 5-7 vessels
capsized in Karnaphuli River.
9 May 1961: A severe cyclonic storm hit Bagerhat and Khulna. It had wind
speeds of up to 161 km/h. The storm surge reached 2.44-3.05 m. Casualty:
11,468 people (mostly in Char Alexander), 25,000 cattle. Damages: The
railway tracks between Noakhali and Harinarayanpur were damaged.
26 October-30 October 1962: A severe cyclone hit Feni. Maximum windspeed
was 161 km/h. The storm surge was 2.5-3.0 m. Casualty: about 1,000
people, many domestic cattle.
28 May - 29 May 1963: A severe cyclonic storm devastated Chittagong,
Noakhali, Cox>s Bazar and coastal islands of Sandwip, Kutubdia, Hatiya
and Maheshkhali. The storm surge reached 4.3-5.2 m in Chittagong.
Maximum windspeed was up to 203 km/h and at Cox>s Bazar 164 km/h.
Casualty: 11,520 people, 32,617 cattle. Damages: 376,332 houses, 4,787
boats, and standing crops.
11 May - 12 May 1965: A strong cyclone hit Barisal and Bakerganj. The
windspeed reached a maximum of 162 km/h. The storm surge was 3.7 m.
Casualty:19,279 people (out of that, 16,456 in Barisal).
14 December - 15 December 1965: A strong cyclone hit the coast near
Cox>s Bazar and Patuakhali. The storm surge rose up to 4.7-6.1 m. The
windspeed was up to 210 km/h in Cox>s Bazar. Casualty" 873 people.
Damage: 40,000 salt beds destroyed.
1 October 1966: A cyclone hit Sandwip, Bakerganj, Khulna, Chittagong,
Noakhali and Comilla. Maximum strong surge was 4.7-9.1 m. The maximum
wind speed was 146 km/h. Total people affected: 1.5 million people.
Casualty: 850 people, 65,000 cattle.
13 November-13 November: The 1970 Bhola cyclone hit the entire coast of
Bangladesh (then East Pakistan). Most affected were Chittagong, Barguna,
Khepupara, Patuakhali, north of Char Burhanuddin, Char Tazumuddin and
south of Maijdi, Haringhata. The official death toll was 500,000 but the
number is likely to be higher. Damages include destruction of
approximately 20,000 fishing boats, and also property and crops. Total
loss of cattle reached more than one million. More than 400,000 houses
and 3,500 educational institutions were destroyed. Maximum windspeed
reached about 222 km/h. Maximum storm surge was about 10.6 m.
5 November - 6 November 1971: A cyclone hit coastal areas of Chittagong.
28 November-30 November 1971: A cyclonic storm hit the coast near the
Sundarbans. Maximum wind speed was 97-113 km/h. The storm surge reached
1 m. Low lying areas of Khulna town inundated.
6 December-9 December 1973: The coastal areas near the Sundarbans were
hit by a cyclone, accompanied by storm surge. Coastal areas near
Patuakhali and nearby islands were submerged under the tidal bore.
13 August-15 August 1974: A cyclonic storm hit Khulna. Maximum wind
speed reached 80.5 km/h. Casualty:600 people.
24 November - 28 November 1974: A cyclone struck the coastal areas near
Cox>s Bazar and Chittagong, including the offshore islands. Maximum wind
speed reached 161 km/h. The storm surge was up to 2.8-5.2 m. Casualty:
200 people, 1000 cattle. Damages: 2,300 houses destroyed.
9 May- 12 May 1975: A strong cyclone pummeled Bhola, Cox>s Bazar and
Khulna. Maximum wind speed was 96.5 to 112.6 km/h. Casualty: 5 people.
9 May-12 May 1977: Khulna, Noakhali, Patuakhali, Barisal, Chittagong and
offshore islands were hit by a cyclone. Maximum wind speed was up to
112.63 km/h.
14 October-15 October 1983: A strong cyclone hit the coastal islands and
chars near Chittagong and Noakhali. Maximum wind speed reached 122 km/h:
Casualty: 43 people. 6 fishing boats and a trawler lost, more than 150
fishermen and 100 fishing boats went missing Damages: 20% of the aman
rice crops in the affected regions were destroyed.
5 November-9 November 1983: A cyclone hit Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar coast
near Kutubdia, St Martin>s Island, Teknaf, Ukhia, Moipong, Sonadia,
Barisal, Patuakhali and Noakhali. The maximum wind speed reached 136
km/h. The storm surge was 1.52 m. Casualty:300 fishermen with 50 boats
missing. Damages:2,000 houses destroyed.
24 May-25 May 1985: A severe cyclone hit Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar,
Noakhali and coastal islands (Sandwip, Hatiya, and Urirchar). Maximum
wind speed at Chittagong was 154 km/h, at Sandwip was 140 km/h, at Cox>s
Bazar was 100 km/h. The storm surge reached a height of 3.0-4.6 m.
Casualty:11,069 people, 135,033 cattle. Damages: 94,379 houses and 74 km
of road, and embankments destroyed.
8 November-9 November 1986: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal
island and chars near Chittagong, Barisal, Patuakhali and Noakhali.
Maximum windspeed was 110 km/h at Chittagong and 90 km/h at Khulna.
Casualty: 14 people. Damages: 972 km² of paddy fields were inundated;
Schools, mosques, warehouses, hospitals, houses and buildings were
destroyed at Amtali upazila in Barguna District.
24 November-30 November 1988: A severe cyclonig storm struck Jessore,
Kushtia, Faridpur and coastal islands of Barisal and Khulna. The maximum
windspeed was 162 km/h. The storm was accompanied by a storm surge of
4.5 m at Mongla Port. Casualty: 5,708 people, and numerous wild animals
at The Sundarbans (deer 15,000, Royal Bengal Tiger 9), cattle 65,000.
Total damage to crops reached Taka] 9.41 billion.
29 April-30 April 1991: The 1991 Bangladesh cyclone hit Bangladesh late
29 April night. The storm originated in the Pacific Ocean and reached
the Bay of Bengal coast after 20 days. The diameter of the storm was
close to 600 km. The maximum wind speed (observed at Sandwip) reached
225 km/h. At other places, the maximum wind speed was reported as
follows: Chittagong 160 km/h, Khepupara (Kalapara) 180 km/h, Kutubdia
180 km/h, Cox>s Bazar 185 km/h, and Bhola 178 km/h. (The NOAA-11
satellite estimated the maximum wind speed to be about 240 km/h at 1.38
pm on 29 April). The storm made landfall near the coast north of
Chittagong port during the night of the 29th April. The maximum storm
surge height reached about 5 to 8 m. Casualty: 150,000 people, 70,000
cattle. Damages: loss of property was estimated at about Tk 60 billion.
31 May-2 June 1991: A cyclone hit the coastal islands and chars near
Patuakhali, Barisal, Noakhali and Chittagong. Maximum wind speed reachd
110 km/h. The storm surge was 1.9 m.
29 April-3 May 1994: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal islands
near Cox>s Bazar. Maximum windspeed reached 210 km/h. Casualty: 400
people, 8,000 cattle.
21 November-25 November 1995: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal
islands near Cox>s Bazar. The maximum wind speed was up to 210 km/h.
Casualty: 650 people, 17,000 cattle.
16 May-19 May 1997: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal islands and
chars near Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar, Noakhali and Bhola districts. The
maximum wind speed was 225 km/hour, and the storm surge reached 3.05
metres. Casualty: 126 people.
25 September-27 September 1997: A severe cyclonic storm hit coastal
islands near Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar, Noakhali and Bhola. It had wind
speeds of up to 150 km/hour, and a storm surge of 1.83 to 3.05 metres.
16 May-20 May 1998 A severe cyclonic storm with windspeed of 150 km/hour
struck coastal islands near Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar, and Noakhali. The
storm surge was from 1.83 to 2.44 metres.
19 November-22 November 1998: A cyclonic storm, with wind speeds up to
90 km/hour, and a storm surge of 1.22 to 2.44 metres. hit coastal
islands and sand shoals near Khulna, Barisal, and Patuakhali.
November 15, 2007: Cyclone Sidr makes landfall on southern Bangladesh,
causing over 2,000 deaths and severe damage
11.16.2007 6:19 AM
Bangladesh: A History of Deadly Cyclones
131 Years, 80 Cyclones and 200 Million Dead
http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/bangladesh-cyclone-47111603
In 131 years, Bangladesh has lost 200 million people to 80 cyclones,
according to a tally by Chinese state-run media. (The territory now
called Bangladesh has held different names during that time, including
East Pakistan.)
A separate tally has it that nine of the world>s 13 deadliest hurricanes
have struck in the Bay of Bengal, which borders India and Bangladesh.
The toll from Cyclone Sidr, which made landfall as a Category 4
hurricane Nov. 15, is still being tallied. Bangladesh is among the most
vulnerable nations for storms of this kind, due to the ease with which
low-lying areas flood, and its densely populated coastline.
Here>s a look at some of the five most deadly storms to have struck,
according to figures from the Xinhua General News Service report and
elsewhere:
Nov. 1, 1876 - About 200,000 people died.
Nov. 12, 1970 - Up to 500,000 people died.
May 24, 1985 - 11,000 people died.
April 29, 1991 - 140,000 peole died.
Nov. 29, 1997 - 150,000 people died.
--
Warmest Regards
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25-year Rise" New York Times, March 27, 1933 |
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"Earl Evleth" <evleth@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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[quote]BANGLADESH: Early monsoon floods "point to climate change"
[/quote]
DEJA VU
Yeh right, we>ve heard all this before!!
This is a partial list of the tropical cyclones in Bangladesh or the
historical region of Bengal in general. Some of the years and dates may
be slightly incorrect. Most of the figures have been taken from
Banglapedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bangladesh_tropical_cyclones#Historical_records_of_tropical_cyclones_made_landfall_at_the_Bangladesh_Coast
1584: A five-hour hurricane and thunderstorm destroyed houses and boats
in the coast near Bakerganj (presently in Barisal) and Patuakhali). Only
Hindu temples with a strong foundation were spared. Total casualty:
about 200,000.
1585: A tropical storm hit the eastern side of Bakerganj (now Barisal)
near the mouth of the Meghna River estuary, causing devastation of
crops. Casualty: unknown.
November 1797: A severe cyclone destroyed most of the houses in the
Chittagong) region. Two ships sank in Chittagong Port.
May 1822: A cyclone, accompanied by storm surge and tidal bores hit
Barisal, Hatiya Island and Noakhali. Casualty: 40,000 people.
October 1831 Barisal: Casualty: unknown.
October 1872: A cyclone hit Cox>s Bazar. Casualty: unknown.
31 October 1876: A cyclone with a storm-surge of 12.2 metres (40 ft) hit
Meghna River estuary near Chittagong, Barisal, and Noakhali. Casualty:
about 200,000. The storm also caused epidemic and famine, and vast
property damage.
24 October 1897 Chittagong: A tropical cyclone accompanied by storm
surge hit the area hard, especially near the Kutubdia island. Casualty:
14,000. The resulting epidemic of Cholera killed another 18,000.
May 1898 Teknaf: Tropical cyclone with storm surge. Casualty: unknown.
November 1904 Sonadia: cyclonic storm; 143 killed and fishing fleet
wrecked.
16 October 1909 Khulna: A tropical cyclone accompanied by storm surge.
Casualty: 698 people and 70,654 cattle.
October 1913 Muktagachha upazila (Mymensingh District): A tropical
cyclone, having moved inland destroyed villages. Casualty: 500 people.
24 September 1917 Khulna. A tropical cyclone. Casualty: 432 people and
28,029 cattle.
May 1941: A cyclonic storm accompanied by storm-surge hit Eastern Meghna
River estuary. Casualty: unknown.
October, 1942: A severe cyclonic storm hit The Sundarbans. Casualty:
unknown.
17 May-19 May1948: A cyclonic storm hit the deltan between Chittagong
and Noakhali. Casualty: approximately 1,200 people and 20,000 cattle.
16 May-19 May 1958: A cyclonic storm accompanied by storm surge hit east
and west Meghna River estuary, east of Barisal and Noakhali. Casualty:
870 people and 14,500. Also standing crops were destroyed.
21 October-24 October 1958: A cyclonic storm struck Chittagong coast.
Effect: Approx. 100,000 families were rendered homeless.
9 October-10 October 1960: A severe cyclonic storm hit Eastern Meghna
River estuary near Noakhali, Bakerganj, Faridpur and Patuakhali. The
storm had wind speeds of up to 201 km/hour. The maximum storm surge was
3.05 metres. It caused devastating damage in Char Jabbar, Char Amina,
Char Bhatia, Ramgati, Hatiya and Noakhali. Casualty: 3,000 people. Other
effects: 62,725 houses destroyed. Crops on 94,000 acres (380 km²) of
land were destroyed.
30 October-31 October 1960: A severe cyclonic storm hit Chittagong,
Noakhali, Bakerganj, Faridpur, Patuakhali and eastern Meghna estuary,
with winds speed up to 210 km/h. The storm surge reached a height of
4.5-6.1 m. Casualty: about 10,000 people, 27,793 cattle . Losses:
568,161 houses destroyed (including 70% houses in Hatiya). Also, two
large ocean-going ships ran aground in the shore, and 5-7 vessels
capsized in Karnaphuli River.
9 May 1961: A severe cyclonic storm hit Bagerhat and Khulna. It had wind
speeds of up to 161 km/h. The storm surge reached 2.44-3.05 m. Casualty:
11,468 people (mostly in Char Alexander), 25,000 cattle. Damages: The
railway tracks between Noakhali and Harinarayanpur were damaged.
26 October-30 October 1962: A severe cyclone hit Feni. Maximum windspeed
was 161 km/h. The storm surge was 2.5-3.0 m. Casualty: about 1,000
people, many domestic cattle.
28 May - 29 May 1963: A severe cyclonic storm devastated Chittagong,
Noakhali, Cox>s Bazar and coastal islands of Sandwip, Kutubdia, Hatiya
and Maheshkhali. The storm surge reached 4.3-5.2 m in Chittagong.
Maximum windspeed was up to 203 km/h and at Cox>s Bazar 164 km/h.
Casualty: 11,520 people, 32,617 cattle. Damages: 376,332 houses, 4,787
boats, and standing crops.
11 May - 12 May 1965: A strong cyclone hit Barisal and Bakerganj. The
windspeed reached a maximum of 162 km/h. The storm surge was 3.7 m.
Casualty:19,279 people (out of that, 16,456 in Barisal).
14 December - 15 December 1965: A strong cyclone hit the coast near
Cox>s Bazar and Patuakhali. The storm surge rose up to 4.7-6.1 m. The
windspeed was up to 210 km/h in Cox>s Bazar. Casualty" 873 people.
Damage: 40,000 salt beds destroyed.
1 October 1966: A cyclone hit Sandwip, Bakerganj, Khulna, Chittagong,
Noakhali and Comilla. Maximum strong surge was 4.7-9.1 m. The maximum
wind speed was 146 km/h. Total people affected: 1.5 million people.
Casualty: 850 people, 65,000 cattle.
13 November-13 November: The 1970 Bhola cyclone hit the entire coast of
Bangladesh (then East Pakistan). Most affected were Chittagong, Barguna,
Khepupara, Patuakhali, north of Char Burhanuddin, Char Tazumuddin and
south of Maijdi, Haringhata. The official death toll was 500,000 but the
number is likely to be higher. Damages include destruction of
approximately 20,000 fishing boats, and also property and crops. Total
loss of cattle reached more than one million. More than 400,000 houses
and 3,500 educational institutions were destroyed. Maximum windspeed
reached about 222 km/h. Maximum storm surge was about 10.6 m.
5 November - 6 November 1971: A cyclone hit coastal areas of Chittagong.
28 November-30 November 1971: A cyclonic storm hit the coast near the
Sundarbans. Maximum wind speed was 97-113 km/h. The storm surge reached
1 m. Low lying areas of Khulna town inundated.
6 December-9 December 1973: The coastal areas near the Sundarbans were
hit by a cyclone, accompanied by storm surge. Coastal areas near
Patuakhali and nearby islands were submerged under the tidal bore.
13 August-15 August 1974: A cyclonic storm hit Khulna. Maximum wind
speed reached 80.5 km/h. Casualty:600 people.
24 November - 28 November 1974: A cyclone struck the coastal areas near
Cox>s Bazar and Chittagong, including the offshore islands. Maximum wind
speed reached 161 km/h. The storm surge was up to 2.8-5.2 m. Casualty:
200 people, 1000 cattle. Damages: 2,300 houses destroyed.
9 May- 12 May 1975: A strong cyclone pummeled Bhola, Cox>s Bazar and
Khulna. Maximum wind speed was 96.5 to 112.6 km/h. Casualty: 5 people.
9 May-12 May 1977: Khulna, Noakhali, Patuakhali, Barisal, Chittagong and
offshore islands were hit by a cyclone. Maximum wind speed was up to
112.63 km/h.
14 October-15 October 1983: A strong cyclone hit the coastal islands and
chars near Chittagong and Noakhali. Maximum wind speed reached 122 km/h:
Casualty: 43 people. 6 fishing boats and a trawler lost, more than 150
fishermen and 100 fishing boats went missing Damages: 20% of the aman
rice crops in the affected regions were destroyed.
5 November-9 November 1983: A cyclone hit Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar coast
near Kutubdia, St Martin>s Island, Teknaf, Ukhia, Moipong, Sonadia,
Barisal, Patuakhali and Noakhali. The maximum wind speed reached 136
km/h. The storm surge was 1.52 m. Casualty:300 fishermen with 50 boats
missing. Damages:2,000 houses destroyed.
24 May-25 May 1985: A severe cyclone hit Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar,
Noakhali and coastal islands (Sandwip, Hatiya, and Urirchar). Maximum
wind speed at Chittagong was 154 km/h, at Sandwip was 140 km/h, at Cox>s
Bazar was 100 km/h. The storm surge reached a height of 3.0-4.6 m.
Casualty:11,069 people, 135,033 cattle. Damages: 94,379 houses and 74 km
of road, and embankments destroyed.
8 November-9 November 1986: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal
island and chars near Chittagong, Barisal, Patuakhali and Noakhali.
Maximum windspeed was 110 km/h at Chittagong and 90 km/h at Khulna.
Casualty: 14 people. Damages: 972 km² of paddy fields were inundated;
Schools, mosques, warehouses, hospitals, houses and buildings were
destroyed at Amtali upazila in Barguna District.
24 November-30 November 1988: A severe cyclonig storm struck Jessore,
Kushtia, Faridpur and coastal islands of Barisal and Khulna. The maximum
windspeed was 162 km/h. The storm was accompanied by a storm surge of
4.5 m at Mongla Port. Casualty: 5,708 people, and numerous wild animals
at The Sundarbans (deer 15,000, Royal Bengal Tiger 9), cattle 65,000.
Total damage to crops reached Taka] 9.41 billion.
29 April-30 April 1991: The 1991 Bangladesh cyclone hit Bangladesh late
29 April night. The storm originated in the Pacific Ocean and reached
the Bay of Bengal coast after 20 days. The diameter of the storm was
close to 600 km. The maximum wind speed (observed at Sandwip) reached
225 km/h. At other places, the maximum wind speed was reported as
follows: Chittagong 160 km/h, Khepupara (Kalapara) 180 km/h, Kutubdia
180 km/h, Cox>s Bazar 185 km/h, and Bhola 178 km/h. (The NOAA-11
satellite estimated the maximum wind speed to be about 240 km/h at 1.38
pm on 29 April). The storm made landfall near the coast north of
Chittagong port during the night of the 29th April. The maximum storm
surge height reached about 5 to 8 m. Casualty: 150,000 people, 70,000
cattle. Damages: loss of property was estimated at about Tk 60 billion.
31 May-2 June 1991: A cyclone hit the coastal islands and chars near
Patuakhali, Barisal, Noakhali and Chittagong. Maximum wind speed reachd
110 km/h. The storm surge was 1.9 m.
29 April-3 May 1994: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal islands
near Cox>s Bazar. Maximum windspeed reached 210 km/h. Casualty: 400
people, 8,000 cattle.
21 November-25 November 1995: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal
islands near Cox>s Bazar. The maximum wind speed was up to 210 km/h.
Casualty: 650 people, 17,000 cattle.
16 May-19 May 1997: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal islands and
chars near Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar, Noakhali and Bhola districts. The
maximum wind speed was 225 km/hour, and the storm surge reached 3.05
metres. Casualty: 126 people.
25 September-27 September 1997: A severe cyclonic storm hit coastal
islands near Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar, Noakhali and Bhola. It had wind
speeds of up to 150 km/hour, and a storm surge of 1.83 to 3.05 metres.
16 May-20 May 1998 A severe cyclonic storm with windspeed of 150 km/hour
struck coastal islands near Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar, and Noakhali. The
storm surge was from 1.83 to 2.44 metres.
19 November-22 November 1998: A cyclonic storm, with wind speeds up to
90 km/hour, and a storm surge of 1.22 to 2.44 metres. hit coastal
islands and sand shoals near Khulna, Barisal, and Patuakhali.
November 15, 2007: Cyclone Sidr makes landfall on southern Bangladesh,
causing over 2,000 deaths and severe damage
11.16.2007 6:19 AM
Bangladesh: A History of Deadly Cyclones
131 Years, 80 Cyclones and 200 Million Dead
http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/bangladesh-cyclone-47111603
In 131 years, Bangladesh has lost 200 million people to 80 cyclones,
according to a tally by Chinese state-run media. (The territory now
called Bangladesh has held different names during that time, including
East Pakistan.)
A separate tally has it that nine of the world>s 13 deadliest hurricanes
have struck in the Bay of Bengal, which borders India and Bangladesh.
The toll from Cyclone Sidr, which made landfall as a Category 4
hurricane Nov. 15, is still being tallied. Bangladesh is among the most
vulnerable nations for storms of this kind, due to the ease with which
low-lying areas flood, and its densely populated coastline.
Here>s a look at some of the five most deadly storms to have struck,
according to figures from the Xinhua General News Service report and
elsewhere:
Nov. 1, 1876 - About 200,000 people died.
Nov. 12, 1970 - Up to 500,000 people died.
May 24, 1985 - 11,000 people died.
April 29, 1991 - 140,000 peole died.
Nov. 29, 1997 - 150,000 people died.
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"Earl Evleth" <evleth@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:C48D24C0.12E24E%evleth@wanadoo.fr...
[quote]BANGLADESH: Early monsoon floods "point to climate change"
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DEJA VU
Yeh right, we>ve heard all this before!!
This is a partial list of the tropical cyclones in Bangladesh or the
historical region of Bengal in general. Some of the years and dates may
be slightly incorrect. Most of the figures have been taken from
Banglapedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bangladesh_tropical_cyclones#Historical_records_of_tropical_cyclones_made_landfall_at_the_Bangladesh_Coast
1584: A five-hour hurricane and thunderstorm destroyed houses and boats
in the coast near Bakerganj (presently in Barisal) and Patuakhali). Only
Hindu temples with a strong foundation were spared. Total casualty:
about 200,000.
1585: A tropical storm hit the eastern side of Bakerganj (now Barisal)
near the mouth of the Meghna River estuary, causing devastation of
crops. Casualty: unknown.
November 1797: A severe cyclone destroyed most of the houses in the
Chittagong) region. Two ships sank in Chittagong Port.
May 1822: A cyclone, accompanied by storm surge and tidal bores hit
Barisal, Hatiya Island and Noakhali. Casualty: 40,000 people.
October 1831 Barisal: Casualty: unknown.
October 1872: A cyclone hit Cox>s Bazar. Casualty: unknown.
31 October 1876: A cyclone with a storm-surge of 12.2 metres (40 ft) hit
Meghna River estuary near Chittagong, Barisal, and Noakhali. Casualty:
about 200,000. The storm also caused epidemic and famine, and vast
property damage.
24 October 1897 Chittagong: A tropical cyclone accompanied by storm
surge hit the area hard, especially near the Kutubdia island. Casualty:
14,000. The resulting epidemic of Cholera killed another 18,000.
May 1898 Teknaf: Tropical cyclone with storm surge. Casualty: unknown.
November 1904 Sonadia: cyclonic storm; 143 killed and fishing fleet
wrecked.
16 October 1909 Khulna: A tropical cyclone accompanied by storm surge.
Casualty: 698 people and 70,654 cattle.
October 1913 Muktagachha upazila (Mymensingh District): A tropical
cyclone, having moved inland destroyed villages. Casualty: 500 people.
24 September 1917 Khulna. A tropical cyclone. Casualty: 432 people and
28,029 cattle.
May 1941: A cyclonic storm accompanied by storm-surge hit Eastern Meghna
River estuary. Casualty: unknown.
October, 1942: A severe cyclonic storm hit The Sundarbans. Casualty:
unknown.
17 May-19 May1948: A cyclonic storm hit the deltan between Chittagong
and Noakhali. Casualty: approximately 1,200 people and 20,000 cattle.
16 May-19 May 1958: A cyclonic storm accompanied by storm surge hit east
and west Meghna River estuary, east of Barisal and Noakhali. Casualty:
870 people and 14,500. Also standing crops were destroyed.
21 October-24 October 1958: A cyclonic storm struck Chittagong coast.
Effect: Approx. 100,000 families were rendered homeless.
9 October-10 October 1960: A severe cyclonic storm hit Eastern Meghna
River estuary near Noakhali, Bakerganj, Faridpur and Patuakhali. The
storm had wind speeds of up to 201 km/hour. The maximum storm surge was
3.05 metres. It caused devastating damage in Char Jabbar, Char Amina,
Char Bhatia, Ramgati, Hatiya and Noakhali. Casualty: 3,000 people. Other
effects: 62,725 houses destroyed. Crops on 94,000 acres (380 km²) of
land were destroyed.
30 October-31 October 1960: A severe cyclonic storm hit Chittagong,
Noakhali, Bakerganj, Faridpur, Patuakhali and eastern Meghna estuary,
with winds speed up to 210 km/h. The storm surge reached a height of
4.5-6.1 m. Casualty: about 10,000 people, 27,793 cattle . Losses:
568,161 houses destroyed (including 70% houses in Hatiya). Also, two
large ocean-going ships ran aground in the shore, and 5-7 vessels
capsized in Karnaphuli River.
9 May 1961: A severe cyclonic storm hit Bagerhat and Khulna. It had wind
speeds of up to 161 km/h. The storm surge reached 2.44-3.05 m. Casualty:
11,468 people (mostly in Char Alexander), 25,000 cattle. Damages: The
railway tracks between Noakhali and Harinarayanpur were damaged.
26 October-30 October 1962: A severe cyclone hit Feni. Maximum windspeed
was 161 km/h. The storm surge was 2.5-3.0 m. Casualty: about 1,000
people, many domestic cattle.
28 May - 29 May 1963: A severe cyclonic storm devastated Chittagong,
Noakhali, Cox>s Bazar and coastal islands of Sandwip, Kutubdia, Hatiya
and Maheshkhali. The storm surge reached 4.3-5.2 m in Chittagong.
Maximum windspeed was up to 203 km/h and at Cox>s Bazar 164 km/h.
Casualty: 11,520 people, 32,617 cattle. Damages: 376,332 houses, 4,787
boats, and standing crops.
11 May - 12 May 1965: A strong cyclone hit Barisal and Bakerganj. The
windspeed reached a maximum of 162 km/h. The storm surge was 3.7 m.
Casualty:19,279 people (out of that, 16,456 in Barisal).
14 December - 15 December 1965: A strong cyclone hit the coast near
Cox>s Bazar and Patuakhali. The storm surge rose up to 4.7-6.1 m. The
windspeed was up to 210 km/h in Cox>s Bazar. Casualty" 873 people.
Damage: 40,000 salt beds destroyed.
1 October 1966: A cyclone hit Sandwip, Bakerganj, Khulna, Chittagong,
Noakhali and Comilla. Maximum strong surge was 4.7-9.1 m. The maximum
wind speed was 146 km/h. Total people affected: 1.5 million people.
Casualty: 850 people, 65,000 cattle.
13 November-13 November: The 1970 Bhola cyclone hit the entire coast of
Bangladesh (then East Pakistan). Most affected were Chittagong, Barguna,
Khepupara, Patuakhali, north of Char Burhanuddin, Char Tazumuddin and
south of Maijdi, Haringhata. The official death toll was 500,000 but the
number is likely to be higher. Damages include destruction of
approximately 20,000 fishing boats, and also property and crops. Total
loss of cattle reached more than one million. More than 400,000 houses
and 3,500 educational institutions were destroyed. Maximum windspeed
reached about 222 km/h. Maximum storm surge was about 10.6 m.
5 November - 6 November 1971: A cyclone hit coastal areas of Chittagong.
28 November-30 November 1971: A cyclonic storm hit the coast near the
Sundarbans. Maximum wind speed was 97-113 km/h. The storm surge reached
1 m. Low lying areas of Khulna town inundated.
6 December-9 December 1973: The coastal areas near the Sundarbans were
hit by a cyclone, accompanied by storm surge. Coastal areas near
Patuakhali and nearby islands were submerged under the tidal bore.
13 August-15 August 1974: A cyclonic storm hit Khulna. Maximum wind
speed reached 80.5 km/h. Casualty:600 people.
24 November - 28 November 1974: A cyclone struck the coastal areas near
Cox>s Bazar and Chittagong, including the offshore islands. Maximum wind
speed reached 161 km/h. The storm surge was up to 2.8-5.2 m. Casualty:
200 people, 1000 cattle. Damages: 2,300 houses destroyed.
9 May- 12 May 1975: A strong cyclone pummeled Bhola, Cox>s Bazar and
Khulna. Maximum wind speed was 96.5 to 112.6 km/h. Casualty: 5 people.
9 May-12 May 1977: Khulna, Noakhali, Patuakhali, Barisal, Chittagong and
offshore islands were hit by a cyclone. Maximum wind speed was up to
112.63 km/h.
14 October-15 October 1983: A strong cyclone hit the coastal islands and
chars near Chittagong and Noakhali. Maximum wind speed reached 122 km/h:
Casualty: 43 people. 6 fishing boats and a trawler lost, more than 150
fishermen and 100 fishing boats went missing Damages: 20% of the aman
rice crops in the affected regions were destroyed.
5 November-9 November 1983: A cyclone hit Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar coast
near Kutubdia, St Martin>s Island, Teknaf, Ukhia, Moipong, Sonadia,
Barisal, Patuakhali and Noakhali. The maximum wind speed reached 136
km/h. The storm surge was 1.52 m. Casualty:300 fishermen with 50 boats
missing. Damages:2,000 houses destroyed.
24 May-25 May 1985: A severe cyclone hit Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar,
Noakhali and coastal islands (Sandwip, Hatiya, and Urirchar). Maximum
wind speed at Chittagong was 154 km/h, at Sandwip was 140 km/h, at Cox>s
Bazar was 100 km/h. The storm surge reached a height of 3.0-4.6 m.
Casualty:11,069 people, 135,033 cattle. Damages: 94,379 houses and 74 km
of road, and embankments destroyed.
8 November-9 November 1986: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal
island and chars near Chittagong, Barisal, Patuakhali and Noakhali.
Maximum windspeed was 110 km/h at Chittagong and 90 km/h at Khulna.
Casualty: 14 people. Damages: 972 km² of paddy fields were inundated;
Schools, mosques, warehouses, hospitals, houses and buildings were
destroyed at Amtali upazila in Barguna District.
24 November-30 November 1988: A severe cyclonig storm struck Jessore,
Kushtia, Faridpur and coastal islands of Barisal and Khulna. The maximum
windspeed was 162 km/h. The storm was accompanied by a storm surge of
4.5 m at Mongla Port. Casualty: 5,708 people, and numerous wild animals
at The Sundarbans (deer 15,000, Royal Bengal Tiger 9), cattle 65,000.
Total damage to crops reached Taka] 9.41 billion.
29 April-30 April 1991: The 1991 Bangladesh cyclone hit Bangladesh late
29 April night. The storm originated in the Pacific Ocean and reached
the Bay of Bengal coast after 20 days. The diameter of the storm was
close to 600 km. The maximum wind speed (observed at Sandwip) reached
225 km/h. At other places, the maximum wind speed was reported as
follows: Chittagong 160 km/h, Khepupara (Kalapara) 180 km/h, Kutubdia
180 km/h, Cox>s Bazar 185 km/h, and Bhola 178 km/h. (The NOAA-11
satellite estimated the maximum wind speed to be about 240 km/h at 1.38
pm on 29 April). The storm made landfall near the coast north of
Chittagong port during the night of the 29th April. The maximum storm
surge height reached about 5 to 8 m. Casualty: 150,000 people, 70,000
cattle. Damages: loss of property was estimated at about Tk 60 billion.
31 May-2 June 1991: A cyclone hit the coastal islands and chars near
Patuakhali, Barisal, Noakhali and Chittagong. Maximum wind speed reachd
110 km/h. The storm surge was 1.9 m.
29 April-3 May 1994: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal islands
near Cox>s Bazar. Maximum windspeed reached 210 km/h. Casualty: 400
people, 8,000 cattle.
21 November-25 November 1995: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal
islands near Cox>s Bazar. The maximum wind speed was up to 210 km/h.
Casualty: 650 people, 17,000 cattle.
16 May-19 May 1997: A severe cyclonic storm hit the coastal islands and
chars near Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar, Noakhali and Bhola districts. The
maximum wind speed was 225 km/hour, and the storm surge reached 3.05
metres. Casualty: 126 people.
25 September-27 September 1997: A severe cyclonic storm hit coastal
islands near Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar, Noakhali and Bhola. It had wind
speeds of up to 150 km/hour, and a storm surge of 1.83 to 3.05 metres.
16 May-20 May 1998 A severe cyclonic storm with windspeed of 150 km/hour
struck coastal islands near Chittagong, Cox>s Bazar, and Noakhali. The
storm surge was from 1.83 to 2.44 metres.
19 November-22 November 1998: A cyclonic storm, with wind speeds up to
90 km/hour, and a storm surge of 1.22 to 2.44 metres. hit coastal
islands and sand shoals near Khulna, Barisal, and Patuakhali.
November 15, 2007: Cyclone Sidr makes landfall on southern Bangladesh,
causing over 2,000 deaths and severe damage
11.16.2007 6:19 AM
Bangladesh: A History of Deadly Cyclones
131 Years, 80 Cyclones and 200 Million Dead
http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/bangladesh-cyclone-47111603
In 131 years, Bangladesh has lost 200 million people to 80 cyclones,
according to a tally by Chinese state-run media. (The territory now
called Bangladesh has held different names during that time, including
East Pakistan.)
A separate tally has it that nine of the world>s 13 deadliest hurricanes
have struck in the Bay of Bengal, which borders India and Bangladesh.
The toll from Cyclone Sidr, which made landfall as a Category 4
hurricane Nov. 15, is still being tallied. Bangladesh is among the most
vulnerable nations for storms of this kind, due to the ease with which
low-lying areas flood, and its densely populated coastline.
Here>s a look at some of the five most deadly storms to have struck,
according to figures from the Xinhua General News Service report and
elsewhere:
Nov. 1, 1876 - About 200,000 people died.
Nov. 12, 1970 - Up to 500,000 people died.
May 24, 1985 - 11,000 people died.
April 29, 1991 - 140,000 peole died.
Nov. 29, 1997 - 150,000 people died.
--
Warmest Regards
Bonzo
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25-year Rise" New York Times, March 27, 1933 |
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