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Moar on Corporate petroapologists, Wikipedia and Utah law
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Moar on Corporate petroapologists, Wikipedia and Utah law Reply with quote

This is wikipedia, let me show you what this means:

Here the significant citation is deleted:

The specific text deleted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stanley_Meyer%27s_water_fuel_cell&diff=230509922&oldid=230493486
"According to the witnesses, the Meyer cell remained remarkably cold,
even after hours of gas production as his system appeared to operate
on much smaller current than conventional electrolysis would require."

Reason given for deleting this:
"Media coverage: Non notable fact removed again. GDewilde - you are
all ready well past the WP:3RR limit - please stop doing this or
you>ll get blocked for disruptive editing. "

Or: "stop adding sourced material we don>t want in the article"

Another such example:

The specific text deleted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stanley_Meyer%27s_water_fuel_cell&diff=230450139&oldid=230438901
"Admiral Sir Anthony Griffin, executive officer in the Royal Navy for
42 years, claims the system doesn>t violate any laws governing
thermodynamics or physics.<ref>[http://www.theorionproject.org/en/
documents/Griffin.pdf abstract of lecture by Admiral Sir Anthony
Griffin] Lecture by Admiral Sir Anthony Griffin to the maritime
division of south Southampton institute, Warsash, UK as part of the
symposium of the impact of New technology on the Marine Industries,
September 1993.</ref>"

reason given: "Griffin has no technical qualifications, and is talking
bollocks"

Or: "stop adding sourced material we don>t want in the article"

***Admiral Sir Admiral Anthony Griffin***

Born in 1920, Griffin entered the Navy in 1934,

In 1971 Griffin was appointed Controller of the Navy and Third Sea
Lord, a position, which he held for no less than five years. Griffin
saw into being the style of fleet we still see today, which ranged
from the smaller aircraft carriers through anti-submarine and anti-
airwar frigates to nuclear submarines.

During Griffin>s tenure as President of the Royal Institution of Naval
Architects (RINA), he became convinced of the desirability of merging
the two senior professional bodies, the RINA and the Institute of
Marine Engineers, in order to give the maritime engineer a more
powerful voice. It was through no fault of his own that the ensuing
negotiations failed. He became chairman of governors of Wellington
College and in 1982 was largely instrumental in setting up the British
Maritime League.

Griffin had been selected as chairman designate of the new national
corporation, subsequently known as British Ship Builders, but endured
a long period of uncertainty while the political argument raged. When
the corporation was eventually inaugurated Griffin was chairman for
three years.

Admiral Sir Anthony Griffin>s perseverance was legendary as was his
interest in technological developments. From the early 1980s until his
death he became convinced of the possibility of propelling ships with
hydrogen as fuel. The hydrogen was to be obtained through the
hydrolysis of sea water and would indeed have been a major
breakthrough in propulsion.

His resume is much to elaborate to cite here:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_/ai_n14083837

The sentence : "Griffin has no technical qualifications, and is
talking bollocks"; is not just offencive and erroneous but it suggests
eye witnesses need qualifications before they may be included in the
article.

witnesses for Professor Mike Laughton, Emeritus Professor at the Queen
Mary university of London, Dr Keith Hindley, a UK research chemist
AND Admiral Griffin state:

- the water fuel cell remained remarkably cold, even after hours of
gas production.

- It operated on much smaller current than conventional electrolysis
would require.

Here is the transcript of Griffin>s lecture:
http://www.theorionproject.org/en/documents/Griffin.pdf

Here is the article:
http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/electronic-world-1991-1.jpg
http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/electronic-world-1991-2.jpg

In contrast the statement:

"The Water Fuel Cell however, was examined by three witnesses in court
who found that there "was nothing revolutionary about the cell at all
and that it was simply using conventional electrolysis". The court
found Meyer guilty of "gross and egregious fraud" and ordered to repay
the two investors their $25,000."

Is sourced with this:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy.hydrogen/msg/8ee0acb80e943e21?hl=endc310437cd1cee1e7&

On wikipedia a usenet reference is not allowed at best it is referred
to as a copyright violation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking_to_copyrighted_works
"if you know that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation
of the creator>s copyright, do not link to that copy of the work.
Knowingly and intentionally directing others to a site that violates
copyright has been considered a form of contributory infringement in
the United States."

Furthermore, the judge had the recording equipment switched off which
is a far greater federal offence than to be forced to refund 2 out of
hundreds of investors.

The trial could only review the water fuel cell. Professor Laughton
mentioned Meyer gave a lame excuse on the days of examination and did
not allow the test to proceed.

However, the rest of Meyer>s technology was patent pending and under
investigation by the patent office, the Department of energy and the
military.

The military wanted some of it classified under the national security
act but previously granted Canadian patent prevented them from pushing
their agenda. Still they have every right to evaluate the situation.
AND you cant expect an inventor to stick his patent art in the public
domain while under review.

You can see this information deleted from wikipedia here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stanley_Meyer%27s_water_fuel_cell&diff=next&oldid=230619361

Furthermore Meyer claims the Times article wrongly implies that the
U.S. Patent Office doesn>t have the ability to rule on the technical
merits of issued U.S. Patents, as so granted to inventor, Stanley A.
Meyer, under 35 USC 101 and that the article wrongly implies that the
Plaintiff>s three experts had the necessary scientific background to
properly evaluate the various stages of the tech-development of the
WFC technology.

This in contrast with Laughton, Griffin and Hindley who have excellent
credentials.

For comparison,

Paul Pantone was hospitalised indefinitely for not getting along with
his corrupt lawyer. He was refused his right to his own legal counsel.
BUT BUT BUT they did record everything in court this time.

http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl

December 12, 2005 Court Hearing.
http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone%20Court_2005%2012%2012.mp3

February 28, 2007 Court Hearing. http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone_Court_2007_02_28.mp3

April 18, 2007 Judge Royal Hansen denies Paul Pantone his right of
choice of counsel. http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone_Court_2007_04_18.mp3

December 11, 2007 Court Hearing about recusal.
http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone_Court_2007_12_11a.mp3

January 7, 2008 4th District Hearing on Utah State Hospital abuse.
http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone_Court_2008_01_07.mp3

January 9, 2008 Hearing on Judge Royal Hansen>s recuse status.
http://paul-pantone-court-recordings.go-here.nl/Pantone_Court_2008_01_09.mp3

Pantone is dying from _intentional_ medical and caregiver neglect.
Without significant public intervention, Pantone is likely to be dead
SOON.
http://www.geetfriends.net/persecution/med.pdf

under Utah Code 63-30d-301(5)(b) state employees (including judges)
can engage in the following activities against Utah citizens and
visitors with immunity from state prosecution:

assault, battery, false imprisonment, false arrest, malicious
prosecution, intentional trespass, abuse of process, libel, slander,
deceit, interference with contract rights, infliction of mental
anguish, or violation of civil rights

This is how a judge like Royal Hansen can deny Paul Pantone and others
their basic civil rights and get away with it.

Let me illustrate Utah Code 63-30d-301(5)(b)

Militarized Police Storm Utah Rave, Beat Partygoers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxgdzOdaNtM

The professional DJ that was booked described the event as follows:

"This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the city told them
they needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy for the
event. They had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating
any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on
the way in). Oh, I suppose I should mention that they arrested all the
security guards for possession.

Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant. The
owner of the land already has a lawsuit against the city for something
similar. A few months ago, she rented her land for a party and the
police raided that as well. And catch this, the police forced her to
LEAVE HER OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. That>s right. They didnt arrest her,
but made her leave her own property!!!

Don>t get it twisted, this is all going down in probably THE most
conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a gross violation
of our civil liberties. The police wanted this party shut down, so
they made it happen. Even though everything about this event was
legal. The promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did
everything they had to to make it legit, only to have it taken away
from them by a group of radical neo-con>s with an agenda.

This was one of the scariest things I have ever witnessed in person. I
can>t even begin to describe how surreal it was. Helicopters, assault
rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers.... why? Was that really
necessary? "

So unless you are fucking retarded you know exactly what happened to
Meyer, you know exactly what happened to Pantone and you know exactly
how wikipedia works.

This is what it looks like:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5238596150388648518

This is how to build it:
http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/articles/geet/geet.htm

Here is a tutorial how to build it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYNnShvPDTQ

And here is what your future looks like.
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?from=USD&to=CNY&amt=1&t=5y

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