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Teijo Maier · Guest

23.05.2008 Aamusta asti on syydetty hätääntyneelle kansalle kas vihnettä
vallattoman toimivaa mehiläistuhojippoa. Juu ilmeisesti hätääntyneet
kansalaiset ovat jo viikojen ajan tukkineet puhelinlinjat tivaten syytä
siihen , ettei pölyttäjistä ole koko maasamme harmainta hajua missään. Ja
koska edes mehiläisliitto enää jaksa keksiä mysteeriin enää virannomaisiamme
epäileville kysejille mitään haluttua selitystä alkaa YLE syytämään omaansa.
Ei nyt ei kelpaa punkit, ei tekaistut virukset. Ei edes kiinalaiset
sokeriruokintaliemimyrkytykset. Ei edes geenimanipulointi tunnu kansamme
kauhua laannuttavan. Kuten muistamme jo pitkään tiedetty TODELLINEN
säteilyionisaatiopäästöfakta harhauttajana on ehdottoman kiellon tabu.

Nyt on siis ydinhallintomme kehittänyt, etten sanoisi nerokkaankivan
selitteen äidin, kaikkien ydinvalheiden kuninkaan syväluotaavan
neronkiivauden laattalentojen likaisenharmaan kuninkaan. Ja kuten
ydinalallamme on tapana ollut massasyydöllä jopa kaikkein typerimmän
arvellaan uppoavan kansan aivotursoon. "Kylmyys on syynä muka mehiläisliiton
tunnustamaan jopa -90% todettuun mehiläiskatoon menneeseen vuoteen, tähän-
ja vielä tuleviin kymmeniin kesiin!" ..? .. Öö.. ..? ..Noin hienoa tietää
että vaikka jo +8C lämmössä iloisesti lentelevä amppari puuttuu jo pitkään
+23C kesäpäivistämme niin nyt saatuani "ns. v i r a l l i s e n selityksen
ydinhallinnoltamme" nukun kuin murmeli tulevat ydinkauhuvuosien yöt
punasateitten rummuttaessa henkeä vielä kituvista biotoopeistamme koko
säteilyionisaatioitten vuosikymmenten kertymien raivolla. HIENOA!(

PS. Ja kauhistellen jälleen uuttta TVO/Fortum/Posivan:n ydinvoimalamasiivien
tritiumpäästöjen ja (440kpl käytössä nyt) maailmaamme tuhoavien
ydinvoimaloitten syytämien raskasvesitritiumpäästöjen ja käsiin räjähtävien
beettasoihtujen uhreja myös eläimistössämme. Jo pitkään on ollut tiedossa,
että ydinvoimaloiden 360-kertaistuneet radioaktiiviset tritiumhöyryt yms.
tappavat massoittain näissä lammikoissaan suojatta kutevaa
sammakkoeläimistöä. 23.05.2008 on julistettu maailmanlaajuiseksi
sammakkoeläinten KATASTROFIJULISTUSPÄIVÄKSI!.. ..Mitä tässä jatkuvassa
ydinaavikoitumistuhoterssissä osaa enää sanoa rakkaat lukijani? Niin olen
minä näistä Einsteininkin ennakoimista faktoista oppia antanut määrää
karsastamatta? .. Ehken tarpeeksi, mutta nyt tilanne alkaa olla sellainen,
että meidän JOKAISEN on kertakaikkiaan pakko tehdä omakohtaiset ratkaisut!
Kannattaako alati etenevää ydinteurastusta vai vastustaakko sitä luonnon
mukana? Yhtä kaikki arpa on heitetty. Ydinvoima LÄHTEE!.. Enää luonto kysyy
mielipiteenään asiasta vain yhden kysymyksen. "Ihmiskunnan kanssa, vai
ILMAN!?". .)) ))

Javier H. · Guest

I include some photos of cover crops that seed in my field, you can
see the size of the hairy vetch in the photo 05 in one part of the
field that was ploughed, and how the clover not grow enough in the
photos 12 and 13, don’t know if not receive enough water of the rain
or not breathe for the compacted soil în this place.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/13735317@N00/sets/

(Excuse my English)
Javier H. Davila
GG NL Mex.

Guest

Javier H. wrote:
[quote]I include some photos of cover crops that seed in my field, you can
see the size of the hairy vetch in the photo 05 in one part of the
field that was ploughed, and how the clover not grow enough in the
photos 12 and 13, donï¿½t know if not receive enough water of the rain
or not breathe for the compacted soil ï¿½n this place.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/13735317@N00/sets/

(Excuse my English)
Javier H. Davila
GG NL Mex.
[/quote]
Thanks for the photo tour. I should some day set up my website to show
pictures of interest.

I liked your vetch flowering, pretty flower.

Say, Javier, would you happen to know when clover seed is mature? I
keep checking for some
"solid granular hard seed" so far only soft brown dying flower.

Also, have you ever done any grafting of trees?

Javier H. · Guest

[quote]Say, Javier, would you happen to know when clover seed is mature? I
keep checking for some
"solid granular hard seed" so far only soft brown dying flower.

Also, have you ever done any grafting of trees?
[/quote]
With the weeds, I often brush in the palm of the hands some flowers
that suspect have seeds and that appear., that must work for the
clover.

Don’t have experience with grafting, some with avocado, is necessary
the skin of the tree and the graft be in contact, as the important
thing I remember.

thanks for see the photos.

(Excuse my English)
Javier H. Davila
GG NL Mex.

Iiro Mustonen · Guest

Test - qwerty

Guest

Javier H. wrote:
(snipped)

Hi Javier, do you grow strawberries down there? Or is it too hot for
strawberries in Mexico?

Guest

plutonium.archime...@gmail.com wrote:
[quote]This is the first year of a successful juneberry harvest in that I
canned at least 75% of the crop. In past years
one hot day in summer would soften the berries and no longer
worthwhile.

And this is the first year here in South Dakota not racked by a summer
drought, although it is becoming
dry now and where I would have to waste a month in just watering.
[/quote]
Well it has been 3 weeks without rainfall so in the past week I have
dropped
everything to start watering. Hopefully tonight, tomorrow and Friday
we have
some rain. If so, then this will be the best summer here ever in that
I was
turned into a waterboy for only 1 week. Last years, I spent entire
months doing
nothing but watering.

Well the sour cherry harvest is over with and managed to cann about
100 quarts,
(100 liters) of sour cherries (some mixed fruits with the cherries).

The Juneberries are long past gone.

That leaves only currants, some gooseberries and buffaloberries.

Now the gooseberries that I buy in the Oregon brand canned fruit are
delicious and was
expecting my fresh fruit to be as good or better. But to my surprize,
my gooseberries have
disappointed me. Their skin is flavorful, but it seems as though their
insides are powdery dry.
Seems as though the skin is the only tasteful part of fresh
gooseberries. Perhaps it is the
variety I have, or perhaps dry climates take a toll on gooseberries.

As for buffaloberries, they are somewhat new to me. They seem to pack
the highest amount
of flavour per size of any fruit I have ever tasted. They are tiny but
feel like I am biting into a
whole lemon. They have a lemony flavour. I do not know if they have
any superlatives-- perhaps
the highest concentration of vitamin C per volume?

But one thing I want to find out if buffaloberries carry any sort of
mild poison, as that chokecherries
contain some poison in their seeds. And the reason I stopped bothering
with chokecherries. I will eat
chokecherries fresh and raw and spit out the seed, but unwilling to
cann or make juice because of this
poison content inside their seeds.

So for the next weeks, I have only currants and buffaloberries to
cann.

Now I am waiting for grapes, apples, pears to ripen for the next
bigtime canning. Grapes are fun to
can for they are little to prep. With apples I usually make cinnamon
applesauce so that the blender is
hauled out and have to use and clean in the operation.

Now this year, the horse and llama are going to compete with me for
the apples, and noticing the
horse already starting to pluck off the trees the low lying apples,
even green apples. They must
like apples so much that they eat green as well as ripe. I do not mind
the horse so long as he
does not damage the apple trees.

Now I am going to have to admit defeat on apricots. When I first moved
here in 2000 I planted many
rows of apricot trees and they have grown very well. This is the first
year in which they have plenty
of apricots on the tree without loss to a late Spring frost. Trouble
is that the apricots never seem to
grow to mature fruit and where most seem to shrivel and die on the
branches. So the climate here
is just too inhospitable for apricots.

But the big harvest this year for me is going to be black walnuts.
This year I should have bushel baskets
and bushel baskest full of black walnuts to harvest, at least
competing with the squirrels.

If I were young again with living in this region and wanting a cash
crop to grow on a large piece of farmland
I would slowly turn it into a black-walnut farm, with rows and rows of
black-walnuts, harvest the crop and
sell it. I can also harvest the wood and sell it. The best thing is
that the land has almost no erosion
of top soil and where I can operate without ever using a motorized
vehicle such as a tractor. That is
if I were young again.

These three lessons, would have served me, if I were young again. (1)
find a crop that saves the topsoil
(2) find a crop that is a plant native to the region, don>t do exotica
plants (3) make yearly improvements
on water supply.

I see the local farmers in the area, many of them getting those large
wheeled sprinklers. And good on
them, because the last summers without rain are nightmare summers.
When I see plants wilting, I
do not know who suffers more, the plant or me.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

Javier H. · Guest

On Jul 16, 11:25 pm, plutonium.archime...@gmail.com wrote:
[quote]
Hi Javier, do you grow strawberries down there? Or is it too hot for
strawberries in Mexico?
[/quote]
I have not cultivated strawberries.

I>m in a learning period in which attempt to connect agriculture with
the factor economic, I have a lot of time in this (more than 10
years), I found and read that it is not possible because the market is
changing so that I can not understand. As well try to include other
factors such as Organic Agriculture and conservation of the soil. (I
have not been yet certify, I hope I do when economically feasible), .
And I see that very far. Now I would just like to emotionally
stabilize the frustrations that I have expriment.

I learn English of one dictionary that is why I apologize if sometimes
I can not express myself properly.

Javier H. Davila

Guest

Javier H. wrote:
[quote]On Jul 16, 11:25ï¿½pm, plutonium.archime...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Javier, do you grow strawberries down there? Or is it too hot for
strawberries in Mexico?

I have not cultivated strawberries.

I>m in a learning period in which attempt to connect agriculture with
the factor economic, I have a lot of time in this (more than 10
years), I found and read that it is not possible because the market is
changing so that I can not understand. As well try to include other
factors such as Organic Agriculture and conservation of the soil. (I
have not been yet certify, I hope I do when economically feasible), .
And I see that very far. Now I would just like to emotionally
stabilize the frustrations that I have expriment.

I learn English of one dictionary that is why I apologize if sometimes
I can not express myself properly.

Javier H. Davila
[/quote]
Any nut trees in your region that are native? Is the Pinyon Pine with
pinenuts grow there?

Guest

Apple harvest ended yesterday with a marathon canning of 12 liters (12
quarts) of ginger
applesauce. Hard for me to tell if I prefer ginger over cinnamon. The
wintertime will tell whether
I like one over the other. Sometimes I include both in a jar. If too
much ginger it has a acrid
taste, but too much cinnamon is pallatable. In my desire to keep my
weight down, I am now
often eating for a meal only a few spoons of peanut butter and a 1/2
liter of fruit. So which
goes better with peanut butter? Ginger or cinnamon applesauce?

The black-walnut harvest started last week and now I have a 50 gallon
plastic tank full
of the unhusked nuts. As the husks turn black and removable will wear
plastic gloves
and dehusk them, and then storage in a back room over winter. So if I
can get enough
black-walnuts then along with the peanut butter will have the so to
speak "meat" of
the meal.

My goal in all of this is to be self sufficient in food for a 1 year
time period if in case
birdflu pandemic scourges through. If not, well, I have a constant
steady year supply
of excellent organically grown food that is a joy to eat.

The remaining food to cann is the tomatoes. I let the horse into the
pasture where
half of my tomatoes were, figuring a horse does not like tomatoes. He
spent a day
eating up both the red and green tomatoes.

And I have the potatoes to harvest. I am waiting for the grasshoppers
to die out
and give the potatoes one last greening before harvesting.

And I have a few rhubarb to harvest.

Finally, I buy in the store, organic cranberry and cann them. Looks
like I end up with
400 jar liters of fruit.

Next year I am going to try something different with the watermelon
patch. Here the
trouble is that the vines like to grow into the mowing area. What I am
going to try
next year is a use of tires with rims and to train the vine out of the
small hole and
to surround the vine with tires, so I can mow and weed easily and give
the vine
plenty of area to spread on top of tires. I also have some old sheet
metal to serve
as another weed suppressant.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

Archimedes Plutonium · Guest

I still have small round yellow crabapples that I can harvest
but seem to not be in the mood. Perhaps if not too busy I will
harvest some of them. Now I want to say something about my
strategy for having crabapples. Many decades ago I was frustrated
by codling moth infestations of apples full of worms. But South
Dakota is perhaps too cold for codling moth to destroy apples.
So I decided to have crabapples of a size that they are still
useful but would escape being wormy. That was the gameplan, but
since the cold weather eliminates the worms, well, the crabapples
are not that much in use. My biggest problem with apples is a
small hard shelled beetle that seems to burrow inside and when I
go to wash a bucket of apples, floats to the top all these tiny
black beetles.

Now I wrote a long time ago that I wondered if the ingredient in
these fiery sensory liquors like Drambouie or B&B Benedictine whether
that secret to fiery taste is a chili or hot pepper derivative?
It may also be a fermented herb like ginger. Ginger in large dose
is acrid tasting. I suspect it is the hot pepper in those liquors.
But to experiment, on my last batch of applesauce I added a pinch of
chili peppers along with cinnamon and ginger.

Now this new sort of meal menu where I just eat some spoonfulls of
peanut butter and a 1/2 liter of some fruit. Today I opened a liter
of Juneberries I canned last summer and had two tablespoons of
organic peanut butter for lunch. The thing about such meals is they
are very fast, and very nutritious and low on calories. The thing about
proper dieting is that we eventually have our stomach>s shrunk to a size
in which we feel full. The stomach of a "thin person" is small and
when you eat something like a tablespoon of peanut butter, it takes
a long time to digest and makes us feel full. All of my applesauce
canning has sugar added, since I added cinnamon and ginger and they
make the apples too sour or bitter without sugar. But next year
I will not add any sugar and only after I open a cann and taste will
I add sugar as a better control of how much sugar.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

Garry Denke · Guest

Stonehenge Not A Cemetery:

Durrington the first wave of Mesolithic coal exploration 10,000 years
ago Salisbury Plain ancients hunted for outcrop coal digging straight
trenches, like under Stonehenge Greater Cursus' periglacial
cryoturbated chalk tundra. 8000 BC coal explorers created Durrington
coal cache with Pembrokeshire Coalfield (Amroth quarry, Pembrokeshire
County) anthracite (blue coal) inside Stonehenge Greater Cursus'
western-half, and Durrington coal cache with South Wales Coalfield
(Crosskeys quarry, Bridgend County) bituminous (black coal) inside its
eastern-half. Durrington the arctic Mesolithic ancients survived with
Cursus' coal caches.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/archaeology/excavations_techniques/oldest_house_01.shtml

The Royal Society of Medicine has already proven Geoff Wainwright,
Timothy Darvill and Timewatch: Stonehenge team>s healing theory true
inside 9,000-year-old Stonehenge Hospital healing centre with ancient
Stillborn Baby Skull Teeth (primary Baby Teeth and permanent Baby
Teeth intact) centralised at the Stonehenge Baby Delivery Room birth
canal described in the JOURNAL OF THE ROYAL SOCIETY OF MEDICINE,
Volume 96, February 2003, "Stonehenge: a view from medicine" by
eminent Dr Anthony M Perks, PhD, DSc, and Darlene Marie Bailey, BA, JR
Soc Med 2003; 96: 94–98, the publication over 5 years old.

http://www.rsm.ac.uk/media/downloads/stonehenge.pdf

Stonehenge Hospital healing centre Stillborn Baby Teeth Skull (having
the primary and permanent Baby Teeth) excavated by Dr Garry W Denke
(1622-1699) historian, antiquarian, dentist (1656 Diary) at Stonehenge
precise centre (June, 1655) has a radiometric date of 9,000 years ago
(7000 BC) matching the Geoff Wainwright, Timothy Darvill and
Timewatch: Stonehenge team>s confirmation date of Dr Garry W Denke>s
original Stonehenge Baby Delivery Room coal-fired Ice Age heating
furnace: housed in Caddo by Hell>s Gate, Brazos River South Wall,
'Great Kingdom of the Tejas', Palo Pinto County; near Breckenridge.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/dec/01/arts.heritage

Interesting enough Timewatch, Geoff Wainwright and Timothy Darvill>s
theory of the Stonehenge Hospital mortuary has been verified,
categorically proving it being a morgue (Stonehenge not a cemetery),
because currently there are no known human remains at Stonehenge
Hospital mortuary. Julian Richards and Michael Pitts removed the last
of Stonehenge Hospital remains on 1st September 2008 at the morgue.
All known human remains that ever were stored there have been removed,
therefore any theory claiming that Stonehenge Hospital mortuary was a
cemetery is categorically false. Stonehenge Not A Cemetery:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgue
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cemetery

G-d

Garry Denke · Guest

[quote]Stonehenge Not A Cemetery:

Durrington the first wave of Mesolithic coal exploration 10,000 years
ago Salisbury Plain ancients hunted for outcrop coal digging straight
trenches, like under Stonehenge Greater Cursus' periglacial
cryoturbated chalk tundra. 8000 BC coal explorers created Durrington
coal cache with Pembrokeshire Coalfield (Amroth quarry, Pembrokeshire
County) anthracite (blue coal) inside Stonehenge Greater Cursus'
western-half, and Durrington coal cache with South Wales Coalfield
(Crosskeys quarry, Bridgend County) bituminous (black coal) inside its
eastern-half. Durrington the arctic Mesolithic ancients survived with
Cursus' coal caches.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/archaeology/excavations_techniques/oldes...

The Royal Society of Medicine has already proven Geoff Wainwright,
Timothy Darvill and Timewatch: Stonehenge team>s healing theory true
inside 9,000-year-old Stonehenge Hospital healing centre with ancient
Stillborn Baby Skull Teeth (primary Baby Teeth and permanent Baby
Teeth intact) centralised at the Stonehenge Baby Delivery Room birth
canal described in the JOURNAL OF THE ROYAL SOCIETY OF MEDICINE,
Volume 96, February 2003, "Stonehenge: a view from medicine" by
eminent Dr Anthony M Perks, PhD, DSc, and Darlene Marie Bailey, BA, JR
Soc Med 2003; 96: 94–98, the publication over 5 years old.

http://www.rsm.ac.uk/media/downloads/stonehenge.pdf

Stonehenge Hospital healing centre Stillborn Baby Teeth Skull (having
the primary and permanent Baby Teeth) excavated by Dr Garry W Denke
(1622-1699) historian, antiquarian, dentist (1656 Diary) at Stonehenge
precise centre (June, 1655) has a radiometric date of 9,000 years ago
(7000 BC) matching the Geoff Wainwright, Timothy Darvill and
Timewatch: Stonehenge team>s confirmation date of Dr Garry W Denke>s
original Stonehenge Baby Delivery Room coal-fired Ice Age heating
furnace: housed in Caddo by Hell>s Gate, Brazos River South Wall,
'Great Kingdom of the Tejas', Palo Pinto County; near Breckenridge.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/dec/01/arts.heritage

Interesting enough Timewatch, Geoff Wainwright and Timothy Darvill>s
theory of the Stonehenge Hospital mortuary has been verified,
categorically proving it being a morgue (Stonehenge not a cemetery),
because currently there are no known human remains at Stonehenge
Hospital mortuary. Julian Richards and Michael Pitts removed the last
of Stonehenge Hospital remains on 1st September 2008 at the morgue.
All known human remains that ever were stored there have been removed,
therefore any theory claiming that Stonehenge Hospital mortuary was a
cemetery is categorically false. Stonehenge Not A Cemetery:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgue
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cemetery
[/quote]
Roman Coins

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes/stonehenge/article4.shtml
http://www.amazon.com/Emperors-Rome-Imperial-Julius-Emperor/dp/1906719012/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223767034&sr=1-1

BBC Finds Coordinator: Yvette Staelens; "Some of the artefacts will
decay significantly unless we introduce them to the correct storage
environment. For example items made from metal." Metal items include a
Roman coin made from a bronze alloy that is particularly susceptible
to decay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar%27s_invasions_of_Britain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_conquest_of_Britain

When the Romans invaded Druids kept 'The stone which the builders
refused' Vault safe. Romans excavated Stonehenge center. Druids wise.
Heelstone downplayed. Vatican letters (Roman) say J.C. claimed Mishkan
beneath Stonehenge, counting Roman coins Sarsen numbers 51-60
excavated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabernacle

Garry Denke

Rudy Canoza · Guest

Fuckwit David Harrison, stupid cracker, wrote:

[quote]On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:27:32 -0500, "Scented Nectar" <me@scentednectar.com> wrote:

Fuckwit David Harrison, stupid cracker, wrote in message
news:mj34311hk8ji61pf3t91ad6shdiqqvh3in@4ax.com...

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:28:08 -0500, "Scented Nectar"

Vegans who do it exclusively for health or
weight control
[/quote]
There aren>t any. "vegans", by definition, are "doing
it" for the ethics. This is beyond dispute.

[quote]don>t tend to avoid animal
based clothing or other nonedibles.

Oh, is that how it works? Okay, then I>m a vegan who doesn>t do
it for health or weight control, and I don>t avoid animal based

clothing

or edibles.

No, that>s not how it works. You eat meat
so you can>t be vegan. The point I was
making was for the dietary definition of
veganism, as opposed to the philosophy
definition. I don>t feel being vegan applies
exclusively to those who follow it as a
philosophy.
[/quote]
You>re wrong. Your feelings are irrlevant. "veganism"
IS so-called "ethical vegetarianism".

[quote]

I guess the definition is up to whoever it was that came up
with the concept.
[/quote]
That was not a contribution.

[quote]

Those
who have ethical reasons are the ones
who are most likely to avoid all animal
products.

Right. I>ve just learned that I>m a vegan who doesn>t do it for
ethical reasons, and I consume all kinds of animal products. I>m
about to have some deer stew btw, and tonight I>ll have some
turkey sausage...hmm, that is for health reasons, so I>m a vegan
who eats turkey sausage because it has less fat than pork
sausage, plus I believe it contributes to better lives for food

animals.

You believe meat is healthy, so for you eating
meat is best. I feel eating vegan is healthier,
so for me vegan is best.

As far as virtual sainthood,
what>s wrong with letting people feel good
about what they>re doing?

Yes, I can feel good about being a vegan who contributes
to decent lives for turkeys, and chickens, and cattle... ¦¬)

Well, at least for a meat eater, you>re an ethical
one. :)

At least I consider the animals themselves.
[/quote]
No, you don>t. You pretend to do it.

[quote]

No matter how
small a difference you think they make,
they are doing what is right for them.

They make no difference except to wildlife who die for
them, and that is right for them...

It
doesn>t hurt you,

....or help anything.

why do you always
object?

Dutch wants everyone to be a vegan
[/quote]
That>s false.

[quote]--the real kind.
I believe people should at least consider trying to contribute
to decent lives for livestock, if they>re going to consider
changing their life in an effort to be more ethical.
[/quote]
They have considered it. They don>t want farm animals
to exist.


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