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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
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Is there an electrical outlet anywhere near the car?

I know, I had thought about gettiing one of those rechargers. My car is
parked (assigned space) betweeen a post and the stairwell. I didn>t see
anything close by but I am going to scope the walls near the elevator
maybe with an extenson cord? I>m skeptical though
[/quote]
A small charger would be a temporary remedy, save the cost of a road call,
and provide back-up in the future.

Just a thought.

[quote]
mk5000

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[/quote]

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AZ Nomad · Guest

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:52:04 -0400, marika <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote:

[quote]"Spaceman" <spaceman@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote in message
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It can when the power is trying to be used by something as simple
as the clock that is "always" on in pretty much every car made since
clocks were placed in cars..
I really think you should check such out.
The battery will drain faster when the circuit is not complete.
and it is a faster "drain".

[/quote]

[quote]The clock is a good theory for a drain. But what about the radio. I
[/quote]
The clock is *terrible* theory for a drain. If it is drawing enough power
to discharge your battery in a few days, the clock will go up in a puff
of smoke.

They typical draw on the order of microamps. If it somehow was able to
draw even a half amp, there>d be seventy watts of power going through it>s
pea sized chip. (W=E^2/R)

AZ Nomad · Guest

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:15:30 -0500, AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
[quote]On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:52:04 -0400, marika <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote:

"Spaceman" <spaceman@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote in message
news:75SdnTyCKvtdgx_VnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com...

It can when the power is trying to be used by something as simple
as the clock that is "always" on in pretty much every car made since
clocks were placed in cars..
I really think you should check such out.
The battery will drain faster when the circuit is not complete.
and it is a faster "drain".

[/quote]

[quote]The clock is a good theory for a drain. But what about the radio. I

The clock is *terrible* theory for a drain. If it is drawing enough power
to discharge your battery in a few days, the clock will go up in a puff
of smoke.

They typical draw on the order of microamps. If it somehow was able to
draw even a half amp, there>d be seventy watts of power going through it>s
pea sized chip. (W=E^2/R)
[/quote]
No stupid! No Bannanna for you!

A half amp load on a 12V battery would be 6 watts of power, but that would
still be more than enough to smoke the clock>s chip.

The Honorable Dr. Rocky R · Guest

"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
message news:6JidnU-
[quote]A small charger would be a temporary remedy, save the cost of a road call,
and provide back-up in the future.
[/quote]
You might want to provide a link to what you are talking about or use this
link:
http://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-PS-400-3A-Instant-Power-Starter/dp/B00078NJYE

[quote]Just a thought.
[/quote]
How can that be? You would have to rent a brain.

Rocky - Doug>s theme song is "If I only had a brain."

Don Lancaster · Guest

AZ Nomad wrote:
[quote]On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:52:04 -0400, marika <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote:

"Spaceman" <spaceman@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote in message
news:75SdnTyCKvtdgx_VnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com...
It can when the power is trying to be used by something as simple
as the clock that is "always" on in pretty much every car made since
clocks were placed in cars..
I really think you should check such out.
The battery will drain faster when the circuit is not complete.
and it is a faster "drain".

The clock is a good theory for a drain. But what about the radio. I

The clock is *terrible* theory for a drain. If it is drawing enough power
to discharge your battery in a few days, the clock will go up in a puff
of smoke.

They typical draw on the order of microamps. If it somehow was able to
draw even a half amp, there>d be seventy watts of power going through it>s
pea sized chip. (W=E^2/R)

huh?[/quote]

12 volts and half an amp is six watts.

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AZ Nomad · Guest

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:03:15 -0700, Don Lancaster <don@tinaja.com> wrote:
[quote]AZ Nomad wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:52:04 -0400, marika <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote:

"Spaceman" <spaceman@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote in message
news:75SdnTyCKvtdgx_VnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com...
It can when the power is trying to be used by something as simple
as the clock that is "always" on in pretty much every car made since
clocks were placed in cars..
I really think you should check such out.
The battery will drain faster when the circuit is not complete.
and it is a faster "drain".

The clock is a good theory for a drain. But what about the radio. I

The clock is *terrible* theory for a drain. If it is drawing enough power
to discharge your battery in a few days, the clock will go up in a puff
of smoke.

They typical draw on the order of microamps. If it somehow was able to
draw even a half amp, there>d be seventy watts of power going through it>s
pea sized chip. (W=E^2/R)

huh?

12 volts and half an amp is six watts.
[/quote]
Yeah, I realized that right after I hit 'send'.
6 watts is still enough to smoke the chip.

marika · Guest

"The Honorable Dr. Rocky Roads Presiding Judge" <wookiee@att.net> wrote in
message news:16-dnTHfvcs10x7VnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@giganews.com...
[quote]
"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
message news:6JidnU-
A small charger would be a temporary remedy, save the cost of a road
call,
and provide back-up in the future.

You might want to provide a link to what you are talking about or use this
link:
http://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-PS-400-3A-Instant-Power-Starter/dp/B00078NJYE

Just a thought.

How can that be? You would have to rent a brain.

Rocky - Doug>s theme song is "If I only had a brain."

[/quote]
Thanks! Hey I>ve seen those things in all kinds of places but I can>t
remember where? Maybe my dad has one. I always thought it was some weird
tool for carpentry or whatever.

I walked around the entirety of the garage and the closest outlet was about
60 feet away. That>d be a really long extension cord. It>s a double
outlet. The top one is already in use -- the the huge industrial fan
keeping the garage from being a death trap of fumes, I guess.

Irony: Next to the stairwell next to my car is an electrical closet that I
have no access to.

Did I read the product description correctly - you don>t need to have an
outlet, it>s got it>s own battery that I could probably recharge in my own
apartment and bring it down for when I need to?

Please tell me assure me this is right and not wishful thinking?

It seems like the perfect engagement gift for a guy. And I imagine the best
part is, he can still put it to very good use, even
if he breaks off the engagement.

mk5000

" I guess I>m safe from that last one. I>m in solitary."-- Lady: "house of
d"

m II · Guest

AZ Nomad wrote:

[quote]More like 50 HP out for 4 minutes before amortization.
Or minus three hours after.

You don>t think paying $50,000 for a car that can only go a mile every
week is a good deal?
[/quote]
Easy fix. We make the week shorter. You can see the intended effect on
the length of days. In the Winter, the cold makes the days contract,
Summer heat makes the days expand, therefore longer.

So, I ask you, what is a week but a number of days strung together?
Shorter week, greater efficiency...and that>s with NO Aggrandization!

mike

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Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Fre · Guest

"marika" <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]
"The Honorable Dr. Rocky Roads Presiding Judge" <wookiee@att.net> wrote in
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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
message news:6JidnU-
A small charger would be a temporary remedy, save the cost of a road
call,
and provide back-up in the future.

You might want to provide a link to what you are talking about or use
this
link:
http://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-PS-400-3A-Instant-Power-Starter/dp/B00078NJYE

Just a thought.

How can that be? You would have to rent a brain.

Rocky - Doug>s theme song is "If I only had a brain."

Thanks! Hey I>ve seen those things in all kinds of places but I can>t
remember where? Maybe my dad has one. I always thought it was some
weird tool for carpentry or whatever.
[/quote]
Well, I>m not sure if you>re talking to me or the psychopath, but,

A charger will plug into the wall and hook onto the battery.

A jump box is like a small breifcase that you charge up elsewhere, and
then carry to, and hook up to, your battery for a boost.

Both have benefits.

[quote]I walked around the entirety of the garage and the closest outlet was
about 60 feet away. That>d be a really long extension cord.
[/quote]
Not for a small charger.

Of course, I>m a homeowner, and can think of a dozen other uses for a 60
ft cord where you may not.

[quote]It>s a double outlet. The top one is already in use -- the the huge
industrial fan keeping the garage from being a death trap of fumes, I
guess.

Irony: Next to the stairwell next to my car is an electrical closet that
I have no access to.

Did I read the product description correctly - you don>t need to have an
outlet, it>s got it>s own battery that I could probably recharge in my own
apartment and bring it down for when I need to?
[/quote]
That>s a jump box- much more portable than a charger, but with a more
limited (less forgiving) utility.

[quote]Please tell me assure me this is right and not wishful thinking?

It seems like the perfect engagement gift for a guy. And I imagine the
best part is, he can still put it to very good use, even
if he breaks off the engagement.
[/quote]
I haven>t even asked you out to dinner.

Yet.

[quote]

mk5000

" I guess I>m safe from that last one. I>m in solitary."-- Lady: "house of
d"
[/quote]

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was going nowhere," -Hannibal Lector.
www.finalprotectivefire.com

AZ Nomad · Guest

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:38:52 GMT, m II <c@in.the.hat> wrote:
[quote]AZ Nomad wrote:

More like 50 HP out for 4 minutes before amortization.
Or minus three hours after.

You don>t think paying $50,000 for a car that can only go a mile every
week is a good deal?

Easy fix. We make the week shorter. You can see the intended effect on
the length of days. In the Winter, the cold makes the days contract,
Summer heat makes the days expand, therefore longer.

So, I ask you, what is a week but a number of days strung together?
Shorter week, greater efficiency...and that>s with NO Aggrandization!
[/quote]

Exactly what have you been smoking?

marika · Guest

"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
message news:lcidnQIvr7o5yBjVnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@supernews.com...

[quote]Well, I>m not sure if you>re talking to me or the psychopath, but,
[/quote]
I guess both but I don>t know who the psychopath is anyway

[quote]
A charger will plug into the wall and hook onto the battery.

A jump box is like a small breifcase that you charge up elsewhere, and
then carry to, and hook up to, your battery for a boost.

Both have benefits.

I walked around the entirety of the garage and the closest outlet was
about 60 feet away. That>d be a really long extension cord.

Not for a small charger.

Of course, I>m a homeowner, and can think of a dozen other uses for a 60
ft cord where you may not.
[/quote]
I used to be a homeowner, had a house in Roanoke but sold it, and now have a
tiny condo

Extension cords are probably useful in condos too. small or not. I just
don>t want a lifestyle that requires extension cords because I trip over
them and break my nose or something

mk5000

Mayor: What do we got?
Lt. James Gordon: Nothing. No DNA, no fingerprints. Clothing is custom, no
tags or brand labels. No name, no other alias. Nothing in his pockets but
knives and lint. --Dark Knight

Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Fre · Guest

"marika" <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]
"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
message news:lcidnQIvr7o5yBjVnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@supernews.com...

Well, I>m not sure if you>re talking to me or the psychopath, but,

I guess both but I don>t know who the psychopath is anyway
[/quote]
Roger "Rocky" Wittikind, who>s been taken to court for extensive stalking
of a female previously, so, don>t respond to him if he e-mails.

He also posts here (misc.transport.trucking), frequently, under the names
of other posters, and also develops bizzare and schitzophrenic titles for
himself.

He has a score of self aggrandizing web pages that explain his tragic and
victimized existence.

He>s an unemployed mental patient from East Moline, Il, who>s attempted to
assume a trucker>s persona (no one knows why).

I have him killfiled so I can>t see his side of the conversation with you.

[quote]A charger will plug into the wall and hook onto the battery.

A jump box is like a small breifcase that you charge up elsewhere, and
then carry to, and hook up to, your battery for a boost.

Both have benefits.

I walked around the entirety of the garage and the closest outlet was
about 60 feet away. That>d be a really long extension cord.

Not for a small charger.

Of course, I>m a homeowner, and can think of a dozen other uses for a 60
ft cord where you may not.

I used to be a homeowner, had a house in Roanoke but sold it, and now have
a
tiny condo
[/quote]
I can dig that.

Assuming that counting on a donor car for jump starting is
disadvantageous-

Do you think you could get your battery out of the car?

You -could- carry the battery to an Advance or Autozone autoparts store-
they>ll charge and check it for free.

Keep in mind that they>ll be pre-disposed to try and sell you a new
battery.

You said this one was about a year old- where did you purchase it?

It kinda boils down to whether you want to fix the problem, or temporarily
circumvent it.

[quote]Extension cords are probably useful in condos too. small or not. I just
don>t want a lifestyle that requires extension cords because I trip over
them and break my nose or something
[/quote]
That>s a unique way to put it-

When I got divorced, I tried to reduce my material possessions to where
they would fit into one pick-up truck bed- it was liberating.

[quote]mk5000

Mayor: What do we got?
Lt. James Gordon: Nothing. No DNA, no fingerprints. Clothing is custom, no
tags or brand labels. No name, no other alias. Nothing in his pockets but
knives and lint. --Dark Knight

[/quote]

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Popeye
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was going nowhere," -Hannibal Lector.
www.finalprotectivefire.com

The Honorable Dr. Rocky R · Guest

"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
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[quote]"marika" <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote
in
message news:lcidnQIvr7o5yBjVnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@supernews.com...

Well, I>m not sure if you>re talking to me or the psychopath, but,

I guess both but I don>t know who the psychopath is anyway

Roger "Rocky" Wittikind, who>s been taken to court for extensive
stalking
of a female previously
[/quote]
Dougface is the psychopath because he is lying to you.

He is lying because it wasn>t "stalking" and he failed to tell you that even
without an attorney I won the case against me with a unanimous decision.

[quote]so, don>t respond to him if he e-mails.
[/quote]
Dougface also fails to tell you that I have people impersonating me and once
when he received an e-mail he thought it was me. He even posted the e-mail
for all to see and it proved it was from one of my impersonators! He was
such an Idiot then and he still is.

Dougface is the psychopath here since he lies about others.

[quote]He also posts here (misc.transport.trucking), frequently, under the
names
of other posters, and also develops bizzare and schitzophrenic titles for
himself.
[/quote]
Dougface is the psychopath because he uses fraud against others and he has
been doing that for years.

[quote]He has a score of self aggrandizing web pages that explain his tragic
and
victimized existence.
[/quote]
You can be your own judge of that by checking out:
http://OverProtectiveMother.com

[quote]He>s an unemployed mental patient from East Moline, Il, who>s attempted
to
assume a trucker>s persona (no one knows why).
[/quote]
Once more Dougface is the psychopath because he uses outright lies or fraud
against others.

MTT just had a poster that tried to support dougface>s outright lies and
after he found out he was wrong he has told the group he will leave and not
come back. I am waiting for Dougface to follow in his footsteps.

[quote]I have him killfiled so I can>t see his side of the conversation with
you.[/quote]

All that means is he is a sucker for all the lies told about me and he will
gladly repeat them himself to anyone he thinks is as gullable as he is.

Rocky

Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Fre · Guest

"The Honorable Dr. Rocky Roads Presiding Judge" <Dougface.is.a.psychopath>
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[quote]
"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
message news:DJOdnR8LepxqPhvVnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@supernews.com...
"marika" <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote
in
message news:lcidnQIvr7o5yBjVnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@supernews.com...

Well, I>m not sure if you>re talking to me or the psychopath, but,

I guess both but I don>t know who the psychopath is anyway

Roger "Rocky" Wittikind, who>s been taken to court for extensive
stalking
of a female previously

Dougface is the psychopath because he is lying to you.

He is lying because it wasn>t "stalking" and he failed to tell you that
even
without an attorney I won the case against me with a unanimous decision.

so, don>t respond to him if he e-mails.

Dougface also fails to tell you that I have people impersonating me and
once
when he received an e-mail he thought it was me. He even posted the
e-mail
for all to see and it proved it was from one of my impersonators! He was
such an Idiot then and he still is.

Dougface is the psychopath here since he lies about others.

He also posts here (misc.transport.trucking), frequently, under the
names
of other posters, and also develops bizzare and schitzophrenic titles for
himself.

Dougface is the psychopath because he uses fraud against others and he has
been doing that for years.

He has a score of self aggrandizing web pages that explain his tragic
and
victimized existence.

You can be your own judge of that by checking out:
http://OverProtectiveMother.com

He>s an unemployed mental patient from East Moline, Il, who>s attempted
to
assume a trucker>s persona (no one knows why).

Once more Dougface is the psychopath because he uses outright lies or
fraud
against others.

MTT just had a poster that tried to support dougface>s outright lies and
after he found out he was wrong he has told the group he will leave and
not
come back. I am waiting for Dougface to follow in his footsteps.

I have him killfiled so I can>t see his side of the conversation with
you.

All that means is he is a sucker for all the lies told about me and he
will
gladly repeat them himself to anyone he thinks is as gullable as he is.

Rocky
[/quote]

I rest my case.

--
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"Best thing for him, really. His therapy
was going nowhere," -Hannibal Lector.
www.finalprotectivefire.com

AZ Nomad · Guest

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:22:49 -0400, Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
[quote]"The Honorable Dr. Rocky Roads Presiding Judge" <Dougface.is.a.psychopath
wrote in message news:M9CdnaKGj5bWThvVnZ2dnUVZ_rLinZ2d@giganews.com...

"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
message news:DJOdnR8LepxqPhvVnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@supernews.com...
"marika" <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b9ednU7tD6ZOHBvVnZ2dnUVZ_rzinZ2d@rcn.net...

"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote
in
message news:lcidnQIvr7o5yBjVnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@supernews.com...

Well, I>m not sure if you>re talking to me or the psychopath, but,

I guess both but I don>t know who the psychopath is anyway

Roger "Rocky" Wittikind, who>s been taken to court for extensive
stalking
of a female previously

Dougface is the psychopath because he is lying to you.

He is lying because it wasn>t "stalking" and he failed to tell you that
even
without an attorney I won the case against me with a unanimous decision.

so, don>t respond to him if he e-mails.

Dougface also fails to tell you that I have people impersonating me and
once
when he received an e-mail he thought it was me. He even posted the
e-mail
for all to see and it proved it was from one of my impersonators! He was
such an Idiot then and he still is.

Dougface is the psychopath here since he lies about others.

He also posts here (misc.transport.trucking), frequently, under the
names
of other posters, and also develops bizzare and schitzophrenic titles for
himself.

Dougface is the psychopath because he uses fraud against others and he has
been doing that for years.

He has a score of self aggrandizing web pages that explain his tragic
and
victimized existence.

You can be your own judge of that by checking out:
http://OverProtectiveMother.com

He>s an unemployed mental patient from East Moline, Il, who>s attempted
to
assume a trucker>s persona (no one knows why).

Once more Dougface is the psychopath because he uses outright lies or
fraud
against others.

MTT just had a poster that tried to support dougface>s outright lies and
after he found out he was wrong he has told the group he will leave and
not
come back. I am waiting for Dougface to follow in his footsteps.

I have him killfiled so I can>t see his side of the conversation with
you.

All that means is he is a sucker for all the lies told about me and he
will
gladly repeat them himself to anyone he thinks is as gullable as he is.

Rocky
[/quote]

[quote]I rest my case.
[/quote]
He obviously never heard of the addage that it is sometimes better to be
thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

substitute psychopath for fool and we have roger.


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