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Guest

On Jul 9, 9:48 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
[quote]On Jul 9, 2:42 pm, Craoibhi...@gmail.com wrote:

On Jul 9, 9:13 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:

On Jul 9, 4:41 am, Craoibhi...@gmail.com wrote:

On Jul 8, 12:32 am, "K. Jennings" <kjenni...@resurgence.net> wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:53:25 -0700, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
In London, Oct 31 - Nov 1.

http://www.minervamagazine.com/images/phaistos.pdf

Does this mean that the scientific community on the whole does
not accept Steven Fischer>s decoding?

You bet. The prevailing attitude seems to be, rhat that ridiculous
thing is a fake.

I>ve never encountered such a claim. Was it not excavated?

The last time I heard any news about it, the news was that it was
indeed a clever forgery, on a par with those chrystal skulls.

What "chrystal [crystal?] skulls"?
[/quote]
Those fake crystal skulls which were supposed to be authentic
artifacts of some Mesoamerican death-worshipping culture, but which
turned out to be forgeries by European goldsmiths. I remember that in
my childhood, they were supposed to be enigmatic and interesting.

[quote]
When and where did you hear such news?
[/quote]
I don>t remember exactly, but it was not long ago.

[quote]As regards excavation, I seem to recall it was purportedly found in
the remains of a temple or something, - basically the remains of a
building which could have been tampered with, after they had been
excavated but before the object was found.

Personally, I would be delighted to hear the confounded old platter
was a fake after all. At least it would shut up all those cranks.-

Just like the Voynich Manuscript cranks?
[/quote]
Well, OK, it wouldn>t shut them up, but it would make me happier to
know that the assholes are fantasizing about a forgery.

Harlan Messinger · Guest

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
[quote]On Jul 9, 11:38 am, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
On Jul 8, 1:11 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
"The scientific community on the whole" agrees that no "decoding" is
possible.
Progress in our understanding doesn>t come from
the scientific community as a whole but from single
gifted people, and if they are ignored - you for
example are judging the book by Derk Ohlenroth
without having much as laid eyes on it - the progress
of the scientific community as a whole is being hold up.
BTW I have seen _almost_ no new postings to any newsgroup since
shortly after 2 pm yesterday (Monday) EDT.
Google may finally have realized what I told them
years ago: publishing a message immediately
lturns a group into a chatroom. For the time being
a message seems to get published only on the
next day. Deja published them hours or a day
later.
As usual, you confuse Google>s web-based *interface* for Usenet with
Usenet itself. It has always been normal for postings to appear
immediately. (Why in the world shouldn>t they?) It was Deja and then
Google that weren>t able to keep up with what everyone with direct
Usenet access had been seeing all along.-

What>s "direct Usenet access"?
[/quote]
Through a client on your own computer that communicates directly to a
Usenet server using NNTP (network news transfer protocol). Google
communicates with other news servers using NNTP to collect the news, and
then stores and delivers it to you using HTTP through the Web.

Franz Gnaedinger · Guest

On Jul 8, 2:27 pm, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
[quote]On Jul 7, 9:53 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:

In London, Oct 31 - Nov 1.

http://www.minervamagazine.com/images/phaistos.pdf

Thanks for the information. I just sent this e-mail
to the Minerva magazine:

Ladies and Gentlemen,
having read your announcement I like to make a short
statement. I believe in the translation of the pair of disks
by Derk Ohlenroth of Tübingen, while I don>t agree on his
historical interpretation and rather speak of a Tiryns disk
and an Elaia disk, gold disks worn on the shoulders by
Eponymous Tiryns and his successors. The Tiryns disk
would represent Tiryns, the rosette in the center the
former Circular Building - at the base a big rosette of
blocks are still extant -, in the building a Zeus shrine.
The rosette of 8 petals is at the same time the emphatic
Ss of Ss-Ey-R Sseyr (Middle Helladic) Sseus (Doric) Zeus
(Greek), a solar symbol, and a lunisolar calendar, variation
of a very ancient calendar of Göbekli Tepe. A year of
Göbekli Tepe had 12 months of 30 days, plus 5 and
occasionally 6 days, while 63 continuous periods of 30
days yield 1,890 days and correspond to 64 lunations.
Variation on the Tiryns disk: a year has eight periods of
45 days, plus 5 and occasionally 6 days, while 21 periods
of 45 days yield 945 days and correspond to 32 lunations.
The Lycaian Sseyr or Zeus mentioned in the spiral text
has been confirmed recently: there is a pre-Greek altar
on top of Mount Lycaion, found together with a crystal seal.
The banning formula along the margin is an equivalent of
the wall around Tiryns, enforced by the four curses cast
on intruders. Eponymous Tiryns would have been a ruler
of Tiryns who came from Arcadia, introduced the olive tree
earlier than hitherto assumed, and thus overcame a famine.
He was the lion-wolf-dog-bee-king --- strong, vigilant, and
industrious. He was honored as King Laertes in Homer.
Have a look at the many soldiers on the Tiryns disk:
they guard the wall and the entrance. Their distribution
can be seen as the Argos Eye: a dot in the center for
the king, dots (often six dots) along the margin, a sign
found on the front and cheeks of an attentively watching
plaster head from Mykenae. This just a brief introduction
into my view of the disk, which would be a clay model
after the hypothetical gold disks that are still waiting
to be excavated, perhaps in downton Tiryns, or in the
not yet dug up lower parts of the limestone hill?
I won>t be able to participate in your conference,
out of financial reasons merely, but if one or the other
scholar should be interested in my work, he or she
may contact me via e-mail.

Sincerely, Franz Gnaedinger, Zurich, Switzerland
[/quote]
Of course I got no reply from Minerva. Eisenberg,
a dealer of antiquities, editor-in-chief of Minerva,
published his article on the disk being a fake in
Minerva, now he organizes the conference on the
disk, and of course he favors people who support
his view. But we know that the humanities are
heavily biased. Some people can publish every
nonsense, others not even their best insights.
On the same day I read about the disk being
a fake I read in a newspaper that Jim Morrison
may have faked his own death. On the same day
I lost an archaeological object and won back
the singer of the Doors. Now if somebody undertook
the labor of proving Göbekli Tepe another hoax
we might hope of getting back Elvis ...

Franz Gnaedinger · Guest

On Jul 9, 5:38 pm, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
[quote]
As usual, you confuse Google>s web-based *interface* for Usenet with
Usenet itself. It has always been normal for postings to appear
immediately. (Why in the world shouldn>t they?) It was Deja and then
Google that weren>t able to keep up with what everyone with direct
Usenet access had been seeing all along.
[/quote]
How many active members of sci.lang post via Google?
and what is the ratio to the number of¨ the others? Even
our Peter T. Daniels is using Google.

As for the disk. The bronze double axe from the cult
cave near Akolokhori has three signs in common,
the male profile (soldier), the Y sign, and the shrub,
furthermore the thorn. Derk Ohlenroth also deciphered
this inscription: I belong to the goddess Lousia.
Lousia is the angry goddess, Cretan equivalent of
Black Demeter Melaina occuring on the Elaia disk
baked together with the Tiryns disk. Now I wait for
Eisenberg to prove that also the bronze axe is
a fake. And the sign of the young tree occurs also
on the gold signet ring from Tiryns, depicting
Eponymous Tiryns and his successors:
www.seshat.ch/home/ring.gif The trees between
the lion-wolf-dog-bee kings are exactly the same
as on the disk, and they have the same height,
the ring being just five centimeters across (length),
an incredibly fine piece, and of curse another fake.
Hello, Mr. Eisenberg, a lot of work for you.

Guest

On Jul 10, 10:18 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
[quote]On Jul 8, 2:27 pm, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:

On Jul 7, 9:53 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:

In London, Oct 31 - Nov 1.

http://www.minervamagazine.com/images/phaistos.pdf

Thanks for the information. I just sent this e-mail
to the Minerva magazine:

Ladies and Gentlemen,
having read your announcement I like to make a short
statement. I believe in the translation of the pair of disks
by Derk Ohlenroth of Tübingen, while I don>t agree on his
historical interpretation and rather speak of a Tiryns disk
and an Elaia disk, gold disks worn on the shoulders by
Eponymous Tiryns and his successors. The Tiryns disk
would represent Tiryns, the rosette in the center the
former Circular Building - at the base a big rosette of
blocks are still extant -, in the building a Zeus shrine.
The rosette of 8 petals is at the same time the emphatic
Ss of Ss-Ey-R Sseyr (Middle Helladic) Sseus (Doric) Zeus
(Greek), a solar symbol, and a lunisolar calendar, variation
of a very ancient calendar of Göbekli Tepe. A year of
Göbekli Tepe had 12 months of 30 days, plus 5 and
occasionally 6 days, while 63 continuous periods of 30
days yield 1,890 days and correspond to 64 lunations.
Variation on the Tiryns disk: a year has eight periods of
45 days, plus 5 and occasionally 6 days, while 21 periods
of 45 days yield 945 days and correspond to 32 lunations.
The Lycaian Sseyr or Zeus mentioned in the spiral text
has been confirmed recently: there is a pre-Greek altar
on top of Mount Lycaion, found together with a crystal seal.
The banning formula along the margin is an equivalent of
the wall around Tiryns, enforced by the four curses cast
on intruders. Eponymous Tiryns would have been a ruler
of Tiryns who came from Arcadia, introduced the olive tree
earlier than hitherto assumed, and thus overcame a famine.
He was the lion-wolf-dog-bee-king --- strong, vigilant, and
industrious. He was honored as King Laertes in Homer.
Have a look at the many soldiers on the Tiryns disk:
they guard the wall and the entrance. Their distribution
can be seen as the Argos Eye: a dot in the center for
the king, dots (often six dots) along the margin, a sign
found on the front and cheeks of an attentively watching
plaster head from Mykenae. This just a brief introduction
into my view of the disk, which would be a clay model
after the hypothetical gold disks that are still waiting
to be excavated, perhaps in downton Tiryns, or in the
not yet dug up lower parts of the limestone hill?
I won>t be able to participate in your conference,
out of financial reasons merely, but if one or the other
scholar should be interested in my work, he or she
may contact me via e-mail.

Sincerely, Franz Gnaedinger, Zurich, Switzerland

Of course I got no reply from Minerva.
[/quote]
Of course. That is because you are a internationally notorious example
of psychoceramic thinking.

Peter T. Daniels · Guest

On Jul 10, 3:05 am, "Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kr...@paradise.net.nz>
wrote:
[quote]Peter T. Daniels wrote:
On Jul 9, 11:38 am, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
On Jul 8, 1:11 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
"The scientific community on the whole" agrees that no "decoding" is
possible.

Progress in our understanding doesn>t come from
the scientific community as a whole but from single
gifted people, and if they are ignored - you for
example are judging the book by Derk Ohlenroth
without having much as laid eyes on it - the progress
of the scientific community as a whole is being hold up.

BTW I have seen _almost_ no new postings to any newsgroup since
shortly after 2 pm yesterday (Monday) EDT.

Google may finally have realized what I told them
years ago: publishing a message immediately
lturns a group into a chatroom. For the time being
a message seems to get published only on the
next day. Deja published them hours or a day
later.

As usual, you confuse Google>s web-based *interface* for Usenet with
Usenet itself. It has always been normal for postings to appear
immediately. (Why in the world shouldn>t they?) It was Deja and then
Google that weren>t able to keep up with what everyone with direct
Usenet access had been seeing all along.-

What>s "direct Usenet access"?

If your ISP (Internet Services Provider) offers NNTP service
[/quote]
How would I know whether it does so? When I switched to DSL two years
ago, I asked the servicepeople about accessing newsgroups and they had
no idea what I was talking about. (yahoo thinks that yahoo groups are
all one needs.)

[quote](typically via port number 119, or with SSL secure protocol typically
port 563) you may run Usenet agent such as Outlook Express on
your computer to read the Usenet news items as soon as they arrive
in your ISP>s database. Your own contributions are immediatelly
accessible on your ISP>s database from where they get distributed
at various speeds all around the Usenet databases throughout the
world. The delays are typically seconds, minutes, tens of minutes,
and only occasionally hours.

The speed depends on the geographical location of you and of
the recipient as well as the momentary properties of the highspeed
highways where the files hop from one node to another.
The geographical distances are often irrelevant, important are
the actual pathways which the items have to traverse to get
from the sender>s ISP to the recipient>s ISP.

In case you are interested, the actual path taken is recorded
and can be seen in the header of each Usenet news item as
they arrive at your pc.[/quote]

Paul J Kriha · Guest

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
[quote]On Jul 9, 11:38 am, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
On Jul 8, 1:11 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
"The scientific community on the whole" agrees that no "decoding" is
possible.

Progress in our understanding doesn>t come from
the scientific community as a whole but from single
gifted people, and if they are ignored - you for
example are judging the book by Derk Ohlenroth
without having much as laid eyes on it - the progress
of the scientific community as a whole is being hold up.

BTW I have seen _almost_ no new postings to any newsgroup since
shortly after 2 pm yesterday (Monday) EDT.

Google may finally have realized what I told them
years ago: publishing a message immediately
lturns a group into a chatroom. For the time being
a message seems to get published only on the
next day. Deja published them hours or a day
later.

As usual, you confuse Google>s web-based *interface* for Usenet with
Usenet itself. It has always been normal for postings to appear
immediately. (Why in the world shouldn>t they?) It was Deja and then
Google that weren>t able to keep up with what everyone with direct
Usenet access had been seeing all along.-

What>s "direct Usenet access"?
[/quote]
If your ISP (Internet Services Provider) offers NNTP service
(typically via port number 119, or with SSL secure protocol typically
port 563) you may run Usenet agent such as Outlook Express on
your computer to read the Usenet news items as soon as they arrive
in your ISP>s database. Your own contributions are immediatelly
accessible on your ISP>s database from where they get distributed
at various speeds all around the Usenet databases throughout the
world. The delays are typically seconds, minutes, tens of minutes,
and only occasionally hours.

The speed depends on the geographical location of you and of
the recipient as well as the momentary properties of the highspeed
highways where the files hop from one node to another.
The geographical distances are often irrelevant, important are
the actual pathways which the items have to traverse to get
from the sender>s ISP to the recipient>s ISP.

In case you are interested, the actual path taken is recorded
and can be seen in the header of each Usenet news item as
they arrive at your pc.

pjk

Paul J Kriha · Guest

Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
[quote]On Jul 9, 5:38 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:

As usual, you confuse Google>s web-based *interface* for Usenet with
Usenet itself. It has always been normal for postings to appear
immediately. (Why in the world shouldn>t they?) It was Deja and then
Google that weren>t able to keep up with what everyone with direct
Usenet access had been seeing all along.

How many active members of sci.lang post via Google?
[/quote]
Information about what system contributor use is
there available for those who know how to look.

Look at the header lines of each contributor>s post.
The most obvious line in your header is:
Organization: http://groups.google.com

Then of course you have to add them up yourself.

Because the Google interface is so slow, awkward and terribly
clumsy, you>ll find that only small minority of people can bare
using it. Typically people who don>t have access to NNTP
service use Google via HTTP.

[quote]and what is the ratio to the number of¨ the others? Even
our Peter T. Daniels is using Google.

As for the disk. The bronze double axe from the cult
cave near Akolokhori has three signs in common,
the male profile (soldier), the Y sign, and the shrub,
furthermore the thorn. Derk Ohlenroth also deciphered
this inscription: I belong to the goddess Lousia.
Lousia is the angry goddess, Cretan equivalent of
Black Demeter Melaina occuring on the Elaia disk
baked together with the Tiryns disk. Now I wait for
Eisenberg to prove that also the bronze axe is
a fake. And the sign of the young tree occurs also
on the gold signet ring from Tiryns, depicting
Eponymous Tiryns and his successors:
www.seshat.ch/home/ring.gif The trees between
the lion-wolf-dog-bee kings are exactly the same
as on the disk, and they have the same height,
the ring being just five centimeters across (length),
an incredibly fine piece, and of curse another fake.
Hello, Mr. Eisenberg, a lot of work for you.
[/quote]
Yeah, right.
pjk

Franz Gnaedinger · Guest

On Jul 10, 9:37 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
[quote]On Jul 9, 5:38 pm, Harlan Messinger

hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:

As usual, you confuse Google>s web-based *interface* for Usenet with
Usenet itself. It has always been normal for postings to appear
immediately. (Why in the world shouldn>t they?) It was Deja and then
Google that weren>t able to keep up with what everyone with direct
Usenet access had been seeing all along.

How many active members of sci.lang post via Google?
and what is the ratio to the number of¨ the others? Even
our Peter T. Daniels is using Google.

As for the disk. The bronze double axe from the cult
cave near Akolokhori has three signs in common,
the male profile (soldier), the Y sign, and the shrub,
furthermore the thorn. Derk Ohlenroth also deciphered
this inscription: I belong to the goddess Lousia.
Lousia is the angry goddess, Cretan equivalent of
Black Demeter Melaina occuring on the Elaia disk
baked together with the Tiryns disk. Now I wait for
Eisenberg to prove that also the bronze axe is
a fake. And the sign of the young tree occurs also
on the gold signet ring from Tiryns, depicting
Eponymous Tiryns and his successors:
www.seshat.ch/home/ring.gif The trees between
the lion-wolf-dog-bee kings are exactly the same
as on the disk, and they have the same height,
the ring being just five centimeters across (length),
an incredibly fine piece, and of curse another fake.
Hello, Mr. Eisenberg, a lot of work for you.
[/quote]
Sorry for the typo, it must read biassed, the hunamities
are biassed (my apology goes to crybaby and his killraters)

Franz Gnaedinger · Guest

On Jul 10, 5:51 pm, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
[quote]On Jul 10, 9:37 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:

On Jul 9, 5:38 pm, Harlan Messinger

hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:

As usual, you confuse Google>s web-based *interface* for Usenet with
Usenet itself. It has always been normal for postings to appear
immediately. (Why in the world shouldn>t they?) It was Deja and then
Google that weren>t able to keep up with what everyone with direct
Usenet access had been seeing all along.

How many active members of sci.lang post via Google?
and what is the ratio to the number of¨ the others? Even
our Peter T. Daniels is using Google.

As for the disk. The bronze double axe from the cult
cave near Akolokhori has three signs in common,
the male profile (soldier), the Y sign, and the shrub,
furthermore the thorn. Derk Ohlenroth also deciphered
this inscription: I belong to the goddess Lousia.
Lousia is the angry goddess, Cretan equivalent of
Black Demeter Melaina occuring on the Elaia disk
baked together with the Tiryns disk. Now I wait for
Eisenberg to prove that also the bronze axe is
a fake. And the sign of the young tree occurs also
on the gold signet ring from Tiryns, depicting
Eponymous Tiryns and his successors:
www.seshat.ch/home/ring.gif The trees between
the lion-wolf-dog-bee kings are exactly the same
as on the disk, and they have the same height,
the ring being just five centimeters across (length),
an incredibly fine piece, and of curse another fake.
Hello, Mr. Eisenberg, a lot of work for you.

Sorry for the typo, it must read biassed, the hunamities
are biassed (my apology goes to crybaby and his killraters)
[/quote]
Sorry again, I replied to the wrong message, I meant
my comment for the other message wherein I said
the humanities are biased, it must be biassed.

Franz Gnaedinger · Guest

On Jul 10, 9:18 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
[quote]On Jul 8, 2:27 pm, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:

On Jul 7, 9:53 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:

In London, Oct 31 - Nov 1.

http://www.minervamagazine.com/images/phaistos.pdf

Thanks for the information. I just sent this e-mail
to the Minerva magazine:

Ladies and Gentlemen,
having read your announcement I like to make a short
statement. I believe in the translation of the pair of disks
by Derk Ohlenroth of Tübingen, while I don>t agree on his
historical interpretation and rather speak of a Tiryns disk
and an Elaia disk, gold disks worn on the shoulders by
Eponymous Tiryns and his successors. The Tiryns disk
would represent Tiryns, the rosette in the center the
former Circular Building - at the base a big rosette of
blocks are still extant -, in the building a Zeus shrine.
The rosette of 8 petals is at the same time the emphatic
Ss of Ss-Ey-R Sseyr (Middle Helladic) Sseus (Doric) Zeus
(Greek), a solar symbol, and a lunisolar calendar, variation
of a very ancient calendar of Göbekli Tepe. A year of
Göbekli Tepe had 12 months of 30 days, plus 5 and
occasionally 6 days, while 63 continuous periods of 30
days yield 1,890 days and correspond to 64 lunations.
Variation on the Tiryns disk: a year has eight periods of
45 days, plus 5 and occasionally 6 days, while 21 periods
of 45 days yield 945 days and correspond to 32 lunations.
The Lycaian Sseyr or Zeus mentioned in the spiral text
has been confirmed recently: there is a pre-Greek altar
on top of Mount Lycaion, found together with a crystal seal.
The banning formula along the margin is an equivalent of
the wall around Tiryns, enforced by the four curses cast
on intruders. Eponymous Tiryns would have been a ruler
of Tiryns who came from Arcadia, introduced the olive tree
earlier than hitherto assumed, and thus overcame a famine.
He was the lion-wolf-dog-bee-king --- strong, vigilant, and
industrious. He was honored as King Laertes in Homer.
Have a look at the many soldiers on the Tiryns disk:
they guard the wall and the entrance. Their distribution
can be seen as the Argos Eye: a dot in the center for
the king, dots (often six dots) along the margin, a sign
found on the front and cheeks of an attentively watching
plaster head from Mykenae. This just a brief introduction
into my view of the disk, which would be a clay model
after the hypothetical gold disks that are still waiting
to be excavated, perhaps in downton Tiryns, or in the
not yet dug up lower parts of the limestone hill?
I won>t be able to participate in your conference,
out of financial reasons merely, but if one or the other
scholar should be interested in my work, he or she
may contact me via e-mail.

Sincerely, Franz Gnaedinger, Zurich, Switzerland

Of course I got no reply from Minerva. Eisenberg,
a dealer of antiquities, editor-in-chief of Minerva,
published his article on the disk being a fake in
Minerva, now he organizes the conference on the
disk, and of course he favors people who support
his view. But we know that the humanities are
heavily biased. Some people can publish every
nonsense, others not even their best insights.
On the same day I read about the disk being
a fake I read in a newspaper that Jim Morrison
may have faked his own death. On the same day
I lost an archaeological object and won back
the singer of the Doors. Now if somebody undertook
the labor of proving Göbekli Tepe another hoax
we might hope of getting back Elvis ...
[/quote]
My apologies for the typo, it must read biassed,
the humanities are biassed (thinking of the killrating
mob of sci.lang led by Panu Petteri Höglund alias
craoibhi or so)

Harlan Messinger · Guest

Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
[quote]On Jul 9, 5:38 pm, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
As usual, you confuse Google>s web-based *interface* for Usenet with
Usenet itself. It has always been normal for postings to appear
immediately. (Why in the world shouldn>t they?) It was Deja and then
Google that weren>t able to keep up with what everyone with direct
Usenet access had been seeing all along.

How many active members of sci.lang post via Google?
and what is the ratio to the number of¨ the others? Even
our Peter T. Daniels is using Google.
[/quote]
Which is irrelevant to whether Google *is* Usenet--it isn>t--and whether
Google decides the nature of Usenet--it doesn>t. If Google does
something weird with your Usenet experience, that>s a problem with
Google, not with Usenet, as will become evident immediately if you
switch to another means of accessing Usenet.

hagen · Guest

On Jul 8, 1:11 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
[quote]On Jul 7, 5:32 pm, "K. Jennings" <kjenni...@resurgence.net> wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:53:25 -0700, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
In London, Oct 31 - Nov 1.

http://www.minervamagazine.com/images/phaistos.pdf

Does this mean that the scientific community on the whole does
not accept Steven Fischer>s decoding?

"The scientific community on the whole" agrees that no "decoding" is
possible.

Fischer>s is no more or less ridiculous than any other that has been
proposed, including the two that are regularly touted here.

BTW I have seen _almost_ no new postings to any newsgroup since
shortly after 2 pm yesterday (Monday) EDT.
[/quote]
And a Bumblebee can>t fly?
Hagen

hagen · Guest

On Jul 10, 9:44 pm, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
[quote]On 2008-07-09, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

[about thePhaistosDisk]

The last time I heard any news about it, the news was that it was
indeed a clever forgery, on a par with those chrystal skulls.

What "chrystal [crystal?] skulls"?

When and where did you hear such news?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080709/sc_afp/sciencearchaeologyenterta...
orhttp://tinyurl.com/5frvpb

How about this for the next instalment of the Indy franchise:
"Indiana Jones and the Dodgy Antiques Dealer"?

The scientific paper is "in press" in the Journal of Archaeological
Science.

In summary, scientists from the British Museum and the Smithsonian
Institution have concluded that the one in the Smithsonian was made in
the 20th century (it has a trace of silicon carbide!), and the one in
the British Museum was made in the late 19th century.

Nonetheless, I>d like to see the new Indiana Jones film at some point.
;-)

Personally, I would be delighted to hear the confounded old platter
was a fake after all. At least it would shut up all those cranks.-

Just like the Voynich Manuscript cranks?

Hoaxes can still be quite interesting.

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[/quote]
To feel sure that everyone could follow my decisive discovery of the
70 stems, I compared the inscription to a pictorial lottery to show
that the outside-stem-signs had complete congruency with the inside-
stem-signs.
To be sure that not a single got it wrong, I further on demonstrated
by the instrumentality of Lego bricks, that a step pyramid with seven
terraces reveals the same basic relations as the disc: 244 items in 61
boxes (exclussive of the hidden core).
I never once found complex picture lotteries hidden in whatever text I
tried. Perhaps you did, but haven’t had the heart to tell me so?
No those systems are much more related to geometry than to grammar.
The conclusion must be that the disc is an unspecified annual ledger
with no words, and this is the progressive break-through, whether you
like it or not.
I fear, that if Michael Ventris has produced his discovery today
instead of 1951. The translation of Linear B was never approved in
public.
Ol’ Hagen
It is all there:
http://web.gvdnet.dk/GVD002393/phaistos.htm
P.S. A forgery or a genuine plaque, does>nt make any difference at
this point. You eventually need to decipher the message, to decide

Peter T. Daniels · Guest

On Jul 10, 3:44 pm, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
[quote]On 2008-07-09, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

[about the Phaistos Disk]

The last time I heard any news about it, the news was that it was
indeed a clever forgery, on a par with those chrystal skulls.

What "chrystal [crystal?] skulls"?

When and where did you hear such news?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080709/sc_afp/sciencearchaeologyenterta...
orhttp://tinyurl.com/5frvpb

How about this for the next instalment of the Indy franchise:
"Indiana Jones and the Dodgy Antiques Dealer"?

The scientific paper is "in press" in the Journal of Archaeological
Science.

In summary, scientists from the British Museum and the Smithsonian
Institution have concluded that the one in the Smithsonian was made in
the 20th century (it has a trace of silicon carbide!), and the one in
the British Museum was made in the late 19th century.
[/quote]
Sorry, there>s only one, and AFAIK it>s safe in its museum in Crete.
(Though maybe it>ll visit London for the centenary conference?)

[quote]Nonetheless, I>d like to see the new Indiana Jones film at some point.
;-)

Personally, I would be delighted to hear the confounded old platter
was a fake after all. At least it would shut up all those cranks.-

Just like the Voynich Manuscript cranks?

Hoaxes can still be quite interesting.[/quote]


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